Roger Stone, Hillary Clinton, and ‘Citizens United Not Timid’

You may not know Roger Stone, but I’m sure you know his work. He is a right-wing hatchet-man extraordinaire, brazenly cynical, and free of any sense of decency or honor in a political career that began as Nixon’s “youngest Watergate dirty trickster.” Various reporters have referred to him as “a state of the art sleaze-ball,” “an extreme rightwing sleazeball,” and the “boastful black prince of Republican sleaze.” (You might notice the common thread among the decriptions.)

Stone has, to one extent or another, dabbled in at least eight presidential campaigns, including Reagan’s, Bush’s, Dole’s, and Bush’s, including helping lead street protests in Florida against a recount in 2000.

Now Stone has a new project — called “Citizens United Not Timid.” If you take the first letter of each word, you get a sense of what Stone’s up to.

Stone wants everyone to understand the mission of the organization, simply and elegantly captured in its artwork, which Stone shows us. It features a red inverted triangle at the bottom of which, is a blue triangle with a white star in the middle. At first glance, it kind of looks like the Puerto Rican flag, or Captain America’s martini glass. Stone designed it himself, and on second glance, it’s meant to whisper, not scream, “special flower.”

The text underneath it reads “Citizens United Not Timid, a 527 Organization To Educate The American Public About What Hillary Clinton Really Is.” The artwork and text are, it turns out, the entirety of the “education.” Stone says the website will feature an attractive model in the organization’s T-shirt, which can be yours for a “donation” of $25 or more. […]

“The more people go to the site, the more people buy the T-shirts,” Stone explains to the troops. “The more people buy the T-shirts, the more people wear the T-shirts. The more people wear the T-shirts, the more people are educated. Consequently, our mission has been achieved.” Though neither the word itself nor even the acronym is ever mentioned, “it’s one-word education. That’s our mission. No issues. No policy groups. No position papers. This is a simple committee with an unfortunate acronym. Addendums, deletions? Everybody’s down?”

Stone settled on “Citizens United Not Timid,” only after failing to “come up with words for B.I.T.C.H.”

First, on the specifics, Paul Kiel details the 527 chicanery at play here.

Stone walks the Standard’s Matt Labash through how he set up his 527. All that’s needed is a name. He chose Jeff “Noodles” Jones, a local bartender/DJ in Miami, to serve as the group’s chairman. It doesn’t matter that Noodles doesn’t have much of a clue about anything — in fact, that’s the point. As long as he doesn’t have a criminal record (a mistake Stone almost made when selecting a chairman), he’s OK. Voila! Attack group.

“A 527 doesn’t have a wife,” Stone explains. “It doesn’t have a brother-in-law who knows a lot about politics, or a union president who calls and doesn’t like the color of the suit, or bimbo eruptions. It’s the perfect candidate, because it has no personal characteristics.”

No personal characteristics indeed. The group’s IRS filings are studiedly anonymous, disclosing their purpose as “To educate the public about the importance of moral character and integtiry [sic] in those who hold public office.”

Yes, the irony of Stone misspelling “integrity” is worth appreciating in its own right.

And second, I can’t help but wonder if Republicans realize the likelihood of something like this crass and ugly attack backfiring. According to the Weekly Standard piece, Stone wants Democrats to know that “if Hillary is the nominee, a hard 527 rain is going to fall.”

I think Dems know that, but does Stone appreciate what these attacks do among Dems? The Clintons have been well-regarded in Democratic circles for years, but they didn’t become genuine icons until the right-wing smear machine tried to destroy them. Bill Clinton’s popularity among Dems was strong, but it didn’t really move until Newt Gingrich came along, and it didn’t really soar until Ken Starr arrived on the scene.

The Clintons have been blessed, in this sense, by extraordinarily easy-to-loathe enemies, who only help rally the Democratic troops behind the Clintons.

Given this, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if “Citizens United Not Timid” does more to help Hillary than hurt her.

1) If anyone wants to know why I think electing HRC is so important, this is Exhibit A. The more they behave this way, the more important it is to show that women cannot be held back by this type of tactic; the more important it is to get to a level of gender equality in leadership that this sort of thing is beyond contemplation.

2) If Stone didn’t exist, we’d want to invent him: if there is a single soccer mom left in the Republican party by the time he is through, I’ll be surprised.

  • This should be given much, much more publicity than it has received. I’ve been aware of it through the internet for several days. I don’t watch TeeVee news, so I may be ignorant of what publicity it may have already had, but it deserves to be waved in front of voters faces over and over again. And then again and again. And still once more. Ad infinitum.

  • Oh My God! Hillary Clinton has a vagina!

    Vagina’s cannot be in a position of power! Let’s stop her with all the fear and immaturity of an average 6th grader.

  • The Clintons have been blessed, in this sense, by extraordinarily easy-to-loathe enemies, who only help rally the Democratic troops behind the Clintons.

    Truer words have never been written. At this point, I really can’t stand the Clintons–and even I kind of want to vote for Hillary just to stick it to these pigs.

    (FWIW, this is why I voted for Bill in 1996, when I probably should have known better, and Hillary in 2000, when I actually did know better but couldn’t resist the idea of the FOX types having to refer to her as “Senator.”)

  • by the way, if he is still alive Ronnie Montrose should bring a copyright infringement case against Stone for ripping off his album cover.

  • I think Roger Stone is underestimating how many women consider that the ugliest word in the English language; if he thought Clinton getting a boost at the polls after being attacked for showing some emotion in NH was an anomaly, he has no idea the backlash that will result from this stupid, stupid plan.

    Yes, I know there are women who wear and use the word like a badge of honor, and who will react to this as if Stone has paid Hillary a compliment, but I think the more likely reaction among women is to be deeply offended. And I don’t think Stone has considered that it won’t only be Democratic women who will be offended, but Republican and Independent women, as well. This is not the same as calling a man a prick or a dick – it’s not bathroom humor.

    It isn’t just that the word is offensive, it is how it is being used. I cannot even imagine the uproar if someone had established a 527 whose title was an acronym for the N-word.

    All Stone is really telling us is that he and his ilk, the ones who think this is amusing or belly-laugh funny, do not just have no regard for Clinton, they have no regard for women, in general. If ever there was a word that told women what a man is really made of, how small and closed his mind is, how deeply his character is flawed, it is this word.

  • About dozen years or so ago a friend and I would joke that “the C-word” would be the last dirty word in America.

  • I’m thinking about forming “Americans Sicka Sleaze, a 527 Organization To Educate the American Public About What Roger Stone Really Is.”

  • I think everyone should help it go viral, as I can’t believe this kind of crude hypocrisy is going to play well with the actually moral people who make up a small but still important part of the Republican base. Is this the example they really want to set for their children?

  • I can’t believe this kind of crude hypocrisy is going to play well with the actually moral people who make up a small but still important part of the Republican base. Is this the example they really want to set for their children?

    One would hope you;re right, but in my experience most of the non-Rockafeller Republicans are children – young-ish white males developmentally arrested in early adolescence. Their favorite philosophers are Beavis and Butthead. Stone may actually sell quite a few shirts.

  • You mean, Democrats’ support of Bill Clinton didn’t start to soar until they lost control of the House of Representatives? It’s funny how we actually bought the whole “vast right-wing conspiracy” argument when it was offered. I think it was simply too hard at the time to realize that we’d elected a President who’s personal failings and political timidity meant that enough independents saw more promise in Newt Gingrich.

    No one wants to be reminded of that time in our political history, and if Stone’s under-handed tactics manage to get the Clinton campaign playing defensive hardball once again, I think the independents will bolt from the Democratic like they did in the mid- to late- 90s.

  • As someone who hopes that Hillary Clinton is not elected president, I hope that this organization goes away quickly. I can’t see them doing anything other than to help Clinton with this type of attack.

  • “Going viral” is a form of “inoculative learning”. Evil thrives in the dark; it can’t stand the light of day. That’s what I like about the ‘net … it’s all out there.

  • Cunt really is the last vile word for women. Like the gays’ adoption of queer, bitch has become a badge of tough women.

    I do find it so interesting that it is culturally acceptable to use these terms about women but it is not acceptable to use ethnic slurs. Maybe it’s ok to use the slurs against women of those ethnicities?

    But don’t look for soccer moms to abandon the Republicans. After all the Republicans were responsible for every child in America knowing what oral sex refers to. Bill may have done it privately but the Republicans made it a household word.

  • Going viral in the non-biological sense means that more people hear about it and he sells more t-shirts.

  • I cannot even imagine the uproar if someone had established a 527 whose title was an acronym for the N-word. -Anne

    I was actually just thinking what Stone might be coming up with for that particular word.

    This 527 quite possibly the most offensive thing I’ve ever seen.

  • It’s amazing they could get approval for an acronym that wouldn’t even be allowed on a California personalyzed car tag.

  • Is it just me or does everyone feel like Republican campaign tactics remind them of high school (and even younger) student council elections or prom election? Seriously. I just picture the guy going NANNY NANNY NANNY and sticking his tongue out.

  • I think Roger Stone is underestimating how many women consider that the ugliest word in the English language;

    Underestimating or counting on? I’m unsure at this point.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if a guy like Stone was hoping for a Clinton presidential victory. Another Clinton presidency would probably have him rolling in dough for another 4-8 years. This is different than hoping Clinton is the victor in the primary because she’s the “most beatable” – Stone’s the kind of guy that can use a Clinton presidency to make a ton of money from his stable of right-wing sheep. And he isn’t some kind of “selfless party activist” – he’s in it for Roger Stone.

    (Of course, a slimeball like stone could make lemonade out of an Obama victory too – a Clinton victory would just let him recycle those direct mailing lists and not have compile new ones. Less work is more profit.)

  • But don’t look for soccer moms to abandon the Republicans.

    Since they’re Republicans in the first place, they’ve already demonstrated an unusually high tolerance for hypocrisy, and a willingness to be part of a political ideology that belittles women left and right. So disliking the c word, and thinking that it applies to Hillary Clinton, are probably not at all mutually exclusive for these ladies.

    Honestly, anybody expecting Republican outrage over this hasn’t spent enough time around Republicans.

  • Hi Anne (#8). You tell him. I’m a guy, and find this utterly repulsive. I can’t imagine being a woman and hearing that crap.

    But it’s what we’re in for if Clinton is the nominee. And something very similar if Obama is the nominee.

    Anyone who thinks they won’t go after Obama in the same way, for some reason, are simply forgetting that reThugs have no shame, there is no floor to their venality. reThugs call people ugly names. It’s all they have. So far it’s worked for them, but maybe this time, as many above have suggested, that the backwash will be flush them off the face of the earth. Rapture them straight to hell.

  • He sounds like an ‘Iron my Shirt’ scheme. Are you sure the Clintons didn’t put him up to this? The Clintons are using distraction and sympathy right now to knock off the best candidate the Democrats ever had. Obama.

  • Another, utterly classless act brought to you by the oh-so-self-righteous party of Christ, family values, decency. (“Hey, Mom, what does Daddy’s new shirt say?”)

    “If Stone didn’t exist, we’d want to invent him: — z”

    Personally, I couldn’t invent this guy if I my imagination was in my ass.

  • This could (and hopefully will) backfire in another way. The ‘c’ word is offensive to nearly every woman. Women don’t use it at all, not even to describe women they hate. He’s not just pissing off Democrats – he’s pissing off Republican women, as well.

    Not only is he a jackass, he’s a stupid jackass.

    Heh.

  • Stone, like so many “Family Values” Republicans, was caught in his very own sex scandal in 1996.

    A few other tidbits about Mr Stone:

    …Worked for Chuck Colson in 1972 at the Committee to Re-Elect the President (i.e. Nixon). Helped strategize for the Reagan presidential campaign and Arlen Specter’s Senate campaign. Worked on Bob Dole and Donald Trump’s unsuccessful presidential campaigns. Also appears to have been helping Al Sharpton’s 2004 presidential campaign, for some reason…

    Gee, I wonder why he would want to help Al Sharpton? He also got caught threatening Elliot Spitzer’s dad, calling Spitzer “your phony, psycho, piece-of-shit son”.

    Don’t you just love how the GOP attracts so many people like Stone, who espouse the party’s family values in ads like this one:

    …We are seeking similar couples or exceptional muscular, well hung, single men. She’s 40DD-24-36 and bi. She loves to fuck hard and deep. He’s 195 lbs., trim, muscular and 8″ +. She prefers jocks, miliary men, and body builders…

    Today’s GOP… The party of Family values.

    http://www.nndb.com/people/844/000047703/

  • @25

    actually Obama is a very week candidate since he has very little experience, espacially in foreign policy matters. He is unknown and untested. Whereas Clinton is tested and has many battle scars to prove it. Plus she has done well in campaigning in traditional Republican areas of New York. I believe that she is smart enough to spend a significant amount of time in states that are Republican leaning.

  • Racer, I was hoping someone would post the info about Roger Stone – and wife Nydia’s – adherence to “Republican Christian Values”.

    And, I loathe the “C” word, too. I will not use it, ever, unless describing Barbara Bush, Sr.
    It is the perfect description of her.

  • ***ignore comment 27 Don Hawkins***it’s totally off topic and is long rant about global warming and Germans. He’s posting it with every comment section.
    Giving any credence to this gutter trash by even mentioning his site seems unnecessary and is deeply offensive. I guess that’s the point but isn’t there greater news to be discussing? He’s just trying to get attention to make himself look important. He’s trash and lives in the sewer. He’s incapable of producing anything but trash. He’s the creator and main member of Public Integrity Suffering Syndrome And National Turmoil,
    a P.I.S.S. A.N.T

  • I was actually thinking more of most of the Republicans I know, retired churchgoers. Some of the men might find it funny though even the majority of them will probably be offended, but I can’t even imagine how horrified all of those women are going to be. They really believe Hollywood is hurting society by letting characters talk about sex. This is so far over their personal line I can’t imagine what will happen, but it certainly won’t make them more likely to vote Republican on election day.

  • …Obama is a very week candidate since he has very little experience, espacially in foreign policy matters. -Eric

    You’re bullshit talking points about Obama are as offensive as Aisha’s insinuations that the Clinton’s had something to do with this 527.

    Let’s try to remember we are part of the reality based community, please.

  • What puzzles me… Who is Stone aiming those shirts *at*? They’re shown on a female; does he expect *women* to wear them? As several women said above, that word is one that all women — Dem and Repub alike — absolutely abhor and don’t use. Not even the “tough”, younger ones. But, if women aren’t going to wear them, then, who? Men? What man is likely to show up, in public, admitting that he’s a c-word?

    I sure hope Stone has made a big buy of those shitty shirts. And that he’s stuck with every one of them.

  • the graphic of the woman on the website wearing the shirt is a photochop. the logo is superimposed on that shirt.

  • I think you are underestimating the republican party’s ability to hate a Clinton.

    This clown does not have the market on calling Hillary a cunt, bitch, whore, and on and on. This is recycled non-sense has been selling like hotcakes for years.

  • Stone has NEVER claimed to be a Christian Right Wing Republican. He has aways been a libertarian and libertine and didn’t really care who knew it.

    you gotta admit the guy has BALLS.

    Swiped the 2000 elections right out of Democratic hands in Fla- when he stopped the recount in Miami, killed off the Reform Party after they cost the GOP the White House in 1992 and 1996,killed Jim Davis the DEM running for governor in Florida by peeling off the black vote- Yeah the guys really in-effective.

    I wish we had someone like him instead of loudmouth bullshitters like james Carville.

  • How about a T-shirt featuring all the GOP candidates, lined up like Mt. Rushmore, with the logo

    Citizens Against Smear Tactics of Right-wing Abuse Tossers and Insult-artists?

    C.A.S.T.R.A.T.I.

  • P.S.: Thanks for the link to his web site. I just had a little fun clogging his e-mail box with a request for a T-Shirt from one Lizzie Borden of Fall River, MA. I figure she’s perfect for the demographic he’s trying to reach, and could possibly give him a pointer or two about hatchet-jobs.

  • You know, if I hadn’t read all the breathless condemnations of this nut on liberal blogs I would have no idea that he even exists. Why are you doing his job for him>

  • Didn’t someone once remark that feminists and liberals lack a sense of humor???

    Perusing these posts, I can tell said person obviously didn’t have a clue.

    That said, and despite MANY disagreements with her on matters of public policy, I do have to agree with Hillary Clinton on one thing: efforts like these make following politics ever so much fun.

    That is all.

    Cahnman out.

    P.S. If you disagree with me, then you are worse than Hitler.

  • Cmac wrote:

    “Women don’t use it at all, not even to describe women they hate.”

    You obviously aren’t friends with many strippers.

    That is all.

    Cahnman out.

    P.S. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; if you disagree with me, then you are worse than Hitler.

  • I do know Roger Stone and have known him all the way back to his days as Jason
    Ranier. He was prochoice, (but don’t you dare tell anyone) and as sleazy as any politician I’ve ever known. You probably read about his ads in the “personal columns” at the time of the San Diego Convention.

    I would never vote for Hillary but leave it to Roger to propagate trash that can only help her. One can only hope that people aren’t foolish enough to buy his t-shirts which will probably be only a money making entity for him.

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