Rove vows veto on stem-cell bill

[tag]Karl Rove[/tag] sat down with the Denver Post editorial board this week and said that if the Senate passes the [tag]DeGette[/tag]-[tag]Castle[/tag] [tag]stem-cell[/tag] [tag]bill[/tag], which has overwhelming public support and will pass with a bi-partisan majority, it will draw the first [tag]veto[/tag] of [tag]Bush[/tag]’s presidency.

“The president is emphatic about this,” Rove – Bush’s top political advisor and architect of his 2000 and 2004 campaigns – said in a meeting with the editorial board of The Denver Post. […]

“We were all an [tag]embryo[/tag] at one point, and we ought to as a society be very careful about being callous about the wanton destruction of embryos, of life,” Rove said. Recent research, he said, shows that researchers “have far more promise from [tag]adult stem cells[/tag] than from embryonic stem cells.”

I don’t expect much in the way of sophisticated policy analysis from Rove, but his argument here is laughable. People may have been an embryo at one point, but this starts to get awfully close to every-sperm-is-sacred territory. As for the idea that there’s “more promise from adult stem cells,” Rove is simply wrong. As David Shaywitz, an endocrinologist and stem cell researcher at Harvard, explained in a Wall Street Journal op-ed last year, adult stem cells are only helpful in treating blood ailments. “In fact, there is little credible evidence to suggest adult stem cells have the same therapeutic potential as embryonic stem cells,” Shaywitz explained.

Science aside, the politics here is important. Bush, in an election year that’s likely to be difficult for Republicans anyway, is slated to use his first-ever veto to reject a very popular piece of legislation that holds out the promise of [tag]medical[/tag] advancements for millions. What’s more, despite bi-partisan appeal, there are just enough opponents of the policy in Congress to prevent a [tag]veto[/tag] override.

This is going to be an unusual fight. There have been plenty of partisan conflicts since the president took office, but this will be the first in which the White House is fighting against a high-profile policy with broad bi-partisan support among lawmakers and the public.

The dynamic isn’t complicated.

On one side will be the GOP’s religious right base and the movement’s inflexible and illogical demands. On the other side will be everyone else, including well-known anti-abortion lawmakers (such as Orrin Hatch and John McCain), Nancy Reagan, the entire scientific community, the public at large, and every family in America with someone who has Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, a spinal cord injury, or one of the many other ailments that could be treated with stem-cell research — if only Bush would take his foot off the brake.

We’re also likely to hear quite a bit from researchers who are tired of watching the United States fall further and further behind.

Will the United States be part of the most exciting medical research of our time? With global competitors poised to eat our lunch, a few private and state-funded efforts won’t be enough. “You can’t do research with your feet bound and one hand tied behind your back,” says Jerome Groopman, a professor at Harvard Medical School.

A portion of the far-right GOP base vs. the rest of the nation. “Pro-cure” vs “anti-cure.” The choice belongs to the president. I’m not optimistic.

A year ago, Newsweek’s Jonathan Alter, whose medical history makes the stem-cell debate a personal issue, said stem-cell research will probably “become one of the defining issues of the 2006 campaign.” If Rove is right, Alter’s prediction may very well come true.

I hope I’m reading this right. This could be Terri Schaivo on steroids, if the Dems raise a stink about it. Bush would willfully let an untold number of Americans suffer horribly to keep a small number of religious extremists happy.

  • I hope you’re right, CB. Unfortunately, as with abortion choice, there are a lot of people out there who vote Repub despite their loony social agenda, trusting Dems and moderate Repubs to keep extreme looniness at bay. So we’ll probably see a veto, then an override of the veto (with the support of Repubs facing reelection this Nov), then a quiet shelving of the issue.

  • Rove’s blowing smoke…

    … I think. Bush probably doesn’t even know where his veto stamp is. And once he vetos this, there should be screams to veto pork laden appropriations and dozen of other stupid, anti-conservative bills (which aren’t very much wanted by progressives either). If Bush vetos this, his whole last six years of signing BAD legislation is going to be brought up, by both sides, and up forward for examination before the 2006 election. And the American public will be reminded just how much it prefers a divided government, and wonder why they are allowing the Republican’ts to run the Congress, Executive Branch and the Supreme Court.

  • Karl Rove a human embryo once? Just imagine the good that would have resulted if it had been used for research.

  • Stem cell research could blow health care wide open and solve a host of problems. But Bush doesn’t want it.

    New energy technologies and replacements for coal, oil, etc. could save us from climate problems and reliance on foreign instability. But Bush doesn’t want them.

    You’d think the campaign ads would write themselves.

  • Michael Kinsley recently had a good editorial on this topic. He pointed out that most embryos are destroyed by fertility clinics. If Rove follows his argument to its logical conclusion, he will have to close fertility clinics which will cause a tremendous backlash from people who have used their services.

    The crux of the problem is deciding when an embryo becomes a person. That is not clear cut.

  • I liken Bush’s first veto to the 40 Year Old Virgin’s first time. There’s just too much attached to the first one for it to happen at this point unless Bush finds the perfect bill–one that boosts his polls, helps Republicans, hurts Democrats, and makes him look strong. Stem cell research is not the issue to veto so Rove is blowing smoke. When that bill crosses Bush’s desk he’ll do what any 60 Year Old Veto Virgin would do: blow it the second his pen is uncapped.

  • Who, exactly, elected Karl Rove and why is he publically announcing Presidential Vetos? If Bush is going to crush the hopes of disabled Americans by Vetoing the only popularly supported legislation in the past 6 years shouldn’t he do that personally?

    Even if Iraq elects a Jewish government, gives us free oil for life, and brings peace to the middle east, this move will wipe out any positive feelings toward W.

    Using stem cells from fertility clinics for research and cures as opposed to just throwing them away should be a right to lifer’s wet dream. First some woman in Kansas gets to have a litter of 7 kids and Regis can present them with 10,000 diapers and a Hummer Limo to drive them to soccer. Then the 40 other embryos that were never going to be viable and never going to be people (in fact they would have never existed) could be used to cure a horrible disease that will save lives.

    I just do not see where anyone can be against this research, unless they are heavily invested in the pharma-industry and stand to lose a lot of money if bio-tech becomes the predominant medical industry. Hmmmm…

  • “We were all an embryo at one point, and we ought to as a society be very careful about being callous about the wanton destruction of embryos, of life,”

    Why not direct that message to God? Over fifty-percent of all conceptions are lost through spontaneous abortion (e.g., genetically defective sperm or ova, errors in fertilization and early cell division) — source: G. Melville Kerr “Perinatal mortality and genetic wastage in man” Journal of Biosocial Science 2 (April, 1971):223-237.

    So much for God’s “family values”. It’s a shame Karl Rove and George Bush and all those other superstitious jerks and meanies weren’t included in that “silent majority”.

  • On a positive note:
    In light of the recent groundbreaking success in setting up the Northwestern Hawaiian Islands Marine National Monument, it is likely that we are only one video away from a presidential directive unleasing stem cell research in USA.

  • This thing is going to be like a Greyhound bus; suffering complete brake failure, and rolling down a steep grade towards a really big rock. Rove is strapped to the front bumper, and Kid George is the driver—but have you ever seen how the front-end of a Greyhound can collapse inward from a high-speed, head-on collision with an immovable object?

    I say, “bring on this battle.” Pass the legislation; let KG veto it—and then just sit back and watch the GOP midterm implosion.

    Once the Dems retake the Hill, they need to get down in the trenches and open a big can of whoop-a** on these idiots. Shut down Bush’s programs. De-fund his illegal tactics. Ram him down the throats of his precious Religious Reich—and start enforcing the tax-exempt procedures. Those who have exploited their pulpits, microphones, and broadcast stations for political gain—should be stripped of their tax-exempt status—RETROACTIVELY. Those who have endorsed and promoted criminal actions against others—including, of course, the killing Supreme Court judges, foreign heads-of-state, ethically-responsible journalists, and other US citizens—should be prosecuted and imprisoned.

    As for the BushReich elite? Give ’em to the Hague….

  • I just wonder if Bush may be “taking one for the team”? If he vetos the bill and Congress overrides his veto, then Congress will look good to voters in November for “standing up to the president”.

    On the other hand, Bush may do the same thing he’s always done in situations like this: Threaten to veto and then sign with a signing statement stating that he isn’t going to obey the law.

  • “In light of the recent groundbreaking success in setting up the Northwestern Hawaiian Islands Marine National Monument, it is likely that we are only one video away from a presidential directive unleasing stem cell research in USA.” – AEynon

    Which is precisely why Boy George II’s handlers won’t let him EVER see “An Inconvient Truth”. Even Boy George would reach in to save the frog.

  • Karl may have been flashing back to when he was policy advisor as well as political advisor. Or he may have been acting as a stalking horse to see what the reaction to such an announcement would be before Bush opened his mouth officially.

    Whatever he says, Bush doesn’t have the balls to do it anyway so he might as well save his breath.

  • Georgie Porgie should be ashame of himself for vetoing a very importantbill that could stop suffering among so many people. He doesn’t know when, maby one of his family may need the use from stem cell research. The promise of this research is so promising that I don’t understand why Bush and the republican partyare so against the research being done.Come on Georgie Porgie and wake up. I hope and pray that every single republican who voted aagainst this bill will be defeated soundly inthe November election. I also want to say that democrats are christian ,also.

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