Santorum shows why he’s losing

In case you missed it, yesterday’s debate on [tag]Meet the Press[/tag] between Sen. Rick [tag]Santorum[/tag] (R) and Bob [tag]Casey[/tag] (D) wasn’t all that bad. Too often, candidate debates are overly-rigid affairs, with stilted rules, specific time limits, turgid opening and closing statements, and formal questions that don’t allow for any real discussion. [tag]Russert[/tag]’s not great at getting to the heart of issues, but as formats go, it’s certainly watchable.

At a minimum, viewers got a glimpse of why Santorum is losing. Consider, for example, the senator’s take on WMD in Iraq and whether the war was necessary.

“[W]e have found weapons of mass destruction, they were older weapons, but we have found chemical weapons. The report was just released not too long ago that, that said that there were over 500 chemical weapons found in Iraq.”

Yep, he’s still harping on this. In June, Santorum announced, falsely, that we’d found WMD in Iraq by pointing to old munitions shells that Saddam Hussein used in his war against Iran long before the first Gulf War, which weren’t even new since everyone already knew about them. Every military and intelligence official in DC said Santorum was wrong, including Bush administration officials and the president’s hand-picked WMD investigators.

But there Santorum was yesterday, insisting once again that maybe the war in Iraq is defensible because “we have found” WMD. Indeed, Santorum, still stuck in his 2003 Twilight Zone episode, went on to say that Iraq was “a serious and grave danger to America” and that the war was a “necessity.” It’s as if he’s counting on a large number of voters being easily manipulated and confused. Let’s hope he’s wrong.

One other, more personal, moment stood out.

During a discussion on the FDA approval of Plan B emergency contraception, Santorum explained why he takes a rigid, far-right line — and why he’s claiming the mantle of former Gov. Bob Casey Sr.

“[Casey] says the science is clear and it is clear. In fact, it is an abortifacient in certain circumstances. If the, if the egg has been fertilized and, and the, and the pill is taken, it does cause an abortion. It’s inconsistent with his previous position. It’s a classic attempt of him, how in a general election, to try and middle and, and, and violate his principles. And I think his father would be very upset if, if he were alive today and, and heard him be supportive of something like this.” (emphasis added)

Putting the substantive policy point aside, I’m curious, what kind of person tries to score cheap points of an opponent’s dead father? Seriously, have we reached a point in which it’s okay to play the dead-father card?

If Santorum wants to defend his policy position, fine. But it’s pathetic to claim to speak for a man who can’t speak for himself, and proclaim, with no justification or class, that a father would be disappointed in his son.

Casey kept his cool, but I would have been thrilled if he turned and asked Santorum, “Have you no decency left?”

Casey kept his cool, but I would have been thrilled if he turned and asked Santorum, “Have you no decency left?”

I wouldn’t have had a problem if Casey just slugged him. Santorum would sell his own mother into slavery for an extra ounce of power. This was low, even for him.

  • “Have you no decency left?”
    Bit of a redundant question to Santorum, isn’t ? I doubt he even remembers what decency is, at this point

  • The only thing left to worry about from Sanitorium (the mis-spelling is intentional, by the way) is how he’s going to react once he’s defeated on November 7—just 64 days from now. He can’t go home to Penn Hills—those people want his hide nailed to the wall over his online homeschooling-scam—plus, the health authorities (and children’s services department) will never let him move his rather large family into that tiny little 2-bedroom bungalow.

    I know the polls show the race to be close, but I’m thinking that Casey’s about to give Sanitorium a political carpet-bombing he’ll never forget….

  • Some people (Ann Coulter comes to mind) used the same argument against Cindy Sheehan – that her son Casey would disapprove of her actions.

    Children argue like this. When they realize they aren’t winning using logic, or by appealing to emotion, they lash out verbally in frustration. Santorum might as well have called Casey a dumb poopyhead.

  • Santorum’s future after November?

    Since he’s gotta make the mortgage payments on his McMansion in Virginia, Santorum will tun up as a boot-licker at a conservative D.C. think tank or a “K” Street lobbying firm. It’s known as affirmation action for retired Republicans.

  • All Republicans should answer the question: “Have you no decency left?”

    If they did they’d impeach the entire administration on their way across the Congressional aisles.

  • One of the best lines Bill Clinton ever used on George Sr in their debates was to bring up his dead father. It was a canned line, prepared and rehersed in advance, and used to make a great point. Is it really worth being bothered by the form of Rick’s comment? Shouldn’t we be talking more about Casey’s campaign giving up ground? From the 1992 debate transcript:

    Facing the president, Clinton responded, “When Joe McCarthy went around this country attacking people’s patriotism, he was wrong … and a Senator from Connecticut stood up to him, named Prescott Bush. Your father was right to stand up to Joe McCarthy. You were wrong to attack my patriotism. I was opposed to the war but I love my country.”

  • I only listened with half an ear to the Ricky (Man on Dog) Santorum show. Sounded like Casey stood fairly solid.

    As for his post-Senatorial career. Sadly, I suspect we will get him in the Commonwealth of Virginia, much like we got Tom DeLay. But with any luck the Dems with take both houses and both of these guys will get a much smaller salary as lobbyists.

  • It was scary to see Santorum still flogging Iraq WMD on Meet The Press yesterday, even after the President has backed off. And last week, Santorum offered the PA Press Club a dubious history lesson linking modern Shiite Iran to the 1683 Ottoman siege of Vienna, claiming that “the West” turned back the “Islamicist” high-water mark of “the day before”– September 11!(corny pause for emphasis)–, in a “one-day battle” on Sept 12. (see 0:02:46 on the video).

    Is Santorum trying to start another crusade between Christians and Muslims, or just pitching a screenplay? In 2004, he and wife Karen joined the Knights of Malta, a religious militia from the Crusader era, which claims international sovereignty in the UN. As a fellow Catholic, I’m uneasy with the implication that a US Senator (and intended Whip) has acquired some sort of dual citizenship, and seems to want a war with Iran for purely religious reasons. Isn’t the Middle East complicated enough without Santorum’s faith-based fomentation and passport-juggling?

  • Why should Casey keep his cool in that situation? In general, when a Dem is presented with a shameless smear or talking point, doesn’t it go over better with the undecided viewer at home if the Dem’s eyes bulge out, the veins on his forehead pop, and he turns to his opponent and says, “Have you no decency?” Had Kerry immediately lost his cool on the Swift Boaters and posed this enraged question to them, that story might have unfolded differently. Santorum and a lot of his Republican cohorts have learned to use an air of righteousness to perfume themselves, and it’s far too uncommon for Dems to turn it around and play hardball with these weasels. I fear that when a Dem goes on TV and says, in a measured, reasonable tone of voice, that Republicans are corrupt, or that they’re chickenhawks, or that they’re liars, or that they have no decency, an undecided viewer thinks, “Hmmm. If I was him, and my opponent really was a corrupt chickenhawk liar without a shred of decency, I’d be hoppin’ mad. So the fact that this man is keeping his cool probably means it’s just politics as usual.” I say, lose it! When your house is on fire, you don’t call up the fire department and say, “Yes, well, I believe it to be the case that a conflagration of undetermined origin…” You just yell “Fire!”

  • In 2004, he and wife Karen joined the Knights of Malta, a religious militia from the Crusader era, which claims international sovereignty in the UN. — Rob Martin (#10)

    Now that is really interesting. I wonder how widely known is this dual citizenship of his. US allows dual citizenship (I myself have it, never having renounced the old one) but it certainly doesn’t like it.

    It also raises other questions:
    Did he ask for it, or was he given an honorary citizenship (sort of like “doctor honoris causa” that various universities award)
    Did he have to swear some sort of oath of allegiance to the Knights of Malta? As exclusive, perhaps as the US one is (the only reason, I think US allows dual citizenship is that its own oath of allegiance is along the lines of “though shalt have no other countries before me”)?

    Because, if so, how suitable is he to be an American senator, if his allegiace is to the Knights of Malta first?

  • To be honest I felt that Casey was at times too agressive. As much as I wanted him to clean Rick’s clock, if I put myself in the shoes of an undecided Penn voter I would have been a bit annoyed with the way he kept breaking in on Santorum. And at times he seemed to have this really off-putting smug grin on his face that reminded me of the way Bush conducted himself during the first 2004 debate. It pains me to say it but on image, at least, I felt Santorum was the cooler customer and Casey was a bit too eager to go on the attack.

  • Nick,

    Is it really worth being bothered by the form of Rick’s comment?

    Did Clinton put words in Prescott Bush’s mouth and presume to state how Prescott Bush would think? Or did he just use his actions as an effective, personal example? The latter, and therein lies the key difference.

  • Santorum is one of the only decent Senators we have. He beat Casey hands down. He will win the election.

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