Senators strike deal, craft bi-partisan resolution on Iraq

For all the recent speculation and anguish over a non-binding Senate resolution against the president’s latest Iraq policy, it looked likely that nothing would pass. The Biden-Hagel-Levin measure had Democratic support, but most Republicans were hesitant, and a threatened veto was likely to work. A weaker Warner-Collins-Nelson resolution was seen as being overly tepid by Dems, but garnered slightly more GOP backing.

As recently as last week, an effort to merge the two proposals failed, and a Senate divided over competing non-binding resolutions appeared unlikely to pass anything. For the White House and its allies, this was the ideal scenario — they admitted that they “hoped to divide Senate opinion largely along party lines, to allow Bush to argue that any outright statement opposing his plan was politically motivated partisanship.”

With this in mind, yesterday’s breakthrough was a sign of real progress.

Democratic and Republican opponents of President Bush’s troop-buildup plan joined forces last night behind the nonbinding resolution with the broadest bipartisan backing: a Republican measure from Sen. John W. Warner of Virginia.

Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) announced the shift, hoping to unite a large majority of the Senate and thwart efforts by the White House and GOP leaders to derail any congressional resolution of disapproval of Bush’s decision to increase U.S. troop levels in Iraq by 21,500.

Although the original Democratic language was popular within the party, it had little appeal among Republicans. Warner’s proposal drew support from both sides, and it was retooled last night to maximize both Democratic and Republican votes.

The bad news is, the new resolution isn’t nearly as strong as the Biden-Hagel-Levin measure. The good news is, this new one will probably pass.

The original resolution with Dem backing included language that the Bush plan is “against the national interest.” That language is now gone. Warner’s original resolution, however, included language that some additional troops could be worthwhile. That’s gone, too. To help appeal to more GOP senators, the compromise version vows not to cut off funding for the war.

That last provision, of course, is not exactly what a lot of Dems wanted to see, but it seems to be a fait accompli — Russ Feingold and a couple of others want to put war funding on the table, but Dems seem all-too-aware of the fact that they don’t have the votes.

I haven’t seen the specific language of the new compromise resolution, so I’m hesitant to praise or criticize it. At a certain level, the specifics have limited relevance — as Kevin Drum recently noted, “A nonbinding resolution is a purely political document that has no effect on actual policy, so the only test of the language is what effect it has on public opinion.”

Quite right. What’s the effect here? We’ll see, but if a resolution gets 70 votes in the Senate saying the president is off track and that escalation is a mistake, it’s bound to get some attention.

Of course, it also leads to an inevitable question: what does the Senate do after the non-binding resolution?

Sorry, slightly off topic: in an interview on NPR this morning, Nicholas Burns (Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs) said, with no recognition of the irony in his statement, “the Iranians need to understand they can’t come barging into a situation, and express what they want and seek a position of dominance, without some kind of reaction from the moderate Arab states”. Where does the Bush administration find these people?

  • How is that a non-binding resolution “vow” to not defund the war? Is it binding on the Congress but not the President. It sounds like the resolution sucks.

    It’s my feeling that the Dems are letting the Republicans “steal” this whole issue. The Republican calls for “benchmarks” seem to be trying to appear to be tough on the war but giving Bush cover for his escalations.

  • Burns also said about Iran this morning

    “I don’t believe that a military conflict with Iran is inevitable. I think that if we’re patient and we’re skillful, we can have a diplomatic solution to these problems.”

    This is not exactly comforting.

    I don’t think the words “Patient and Skillful” come to mind when talking about the Decider. The opposite maybe, but these guys are anything but patient and skillful. Maybe Burns is hinting that we should not be suprised by a strike on Iran.

  • i agree with dale. i really don’t care for the provision about vowing not to defund the war. although in reality i suppose it would be easy in a month or so to change their minds if things continue to spiral downward.

  • You don’t have to defund the war to bring the troops home – you can use the funds already appropriated for the war to bring them home instead of keeping them there, and I don’t know why people do not seem to understand this.

  • Supporting not cutting off funds may seem like a binding resolution on congress but in effect it has knowing to do with what congress can do to control the spending for the war. In the suppplemental coming forward in the next few days they can designate what the money is actually used for such as setting troop levels etc.

  • The idea guiding the Dems in the Senate is to get as many Rs on record with ANYTHING disagreeing with Bush’s policy in Iraq. The bigger the number, the bigger the news. The text is somewhat irrelevant.
    Besides, after the first step, it gets easier for R dissenters to keep on going. They kind of have to. Otherwise, they face the question, “well, if you think this is a bad idea, why don’t you do something to stop it?”

  • from Wikipedia: “To retain respect for sausages and laws, one must not watch them in the making.”- Otto von Bismarck (attributed; also given as “People who enjoy eating sausage and obeying the law should not watch either being made” and many other variations)

    I’m not at all sure I like this sausage our Democrats are offering us. Dale’s right though: “non-binding” goes both ways. Damn the non-binding vow and full speed ahead. Cut the funding.

    New bumper sticker: SURGE IN IRAQ PURGE THE WHITE HOUSE

  • My instinct is that this isn’t the best way to capitalize off of the situation but I don’t want to say too much more because right now we really have to get behind it and make the most of it. Congress can’t just count on the press to pick up the story. They have to promote it. They have to be out there saying that a lot of people were discontented with the war and the escalation, and this is what we delivered, and we have to see how the president reacts to it, etc. If they think it helps them they can say that they were champing at the bit to do more.

  • a lot of people were discontented with the war and the escalation, and this is what we delivered,

    They have to tell people they responded to them. They have to say, “this is what we put on the table for the American people,” etc.

  • OK, Harry, if you get 70 anti-White-House votes we’ll let you off the hook, but ONLY because we’ve been hearing “This is only a first step” for several excruciating days now, and we’re all primed for the second step.

  • Russ Feingold and a couple of others want to put war funding on the table, but Dems seem all-too-aware of the fact that they don’t have the votes.

    The reason we don’t have the votes is because we haven’t flooded our Senator’s offices with enough faxes. C’mon people! E-mail doesn’t work, flood them with faxes!

  • This is a great moment and a great beginning. Remember, politics is the art of the possible.

    This resolution will do three things:
    1) It will foreclose the Decider from further escalating this misadventure (He may put 21,500 troops in further danger but this tells the Administration it cannot go farther.)
    2) It tells everyone the war is over, at least symbolically. Our allies at least know that the American people no longer back this fiasco.
    3) It allows the Democrats to symbolically support the troops while opposing the Administration.

    A 70 vote majority for this resolution would be the greatest vote of no-confidence in an Administration’s policies since Congress refused to back the Contras in Nicarauga in the 80s.

    The war can and will be defunded eventually. We will eventually pull out of Iraq. But Iraq will collapse, a bloodbath will ensue, it will be televised, and Americans will be horrified at the results. Thus, baby steps are needed right now; the country must be slowly prepared for this eventuality and must accept that absolutely nothing could have changed this outcome.

    Looking ahead, the GOP will campaign in 2008, 2010 and 2012 on this issue: “Who lost the Middle East?” It is critical to our country that those who created this fiasco are forever driven from power, and that Dems shine the light of truth and say, with a loud, clear voice: “You did!”

  • There seems to be a bit of a paradox in this situation. Is our purpose to get Republicans on record as supporting the war? In that case I’m sure the 109th would have crafted the most distasteful resolution they could in order to get Dems on record as opposing the resolution whether it was partisan or not.

    Or is it our purpose to influence the President with bi-partisan disapproval? I guess that would be a worthy goal if this President even listened.

    It’s not so much the particular “vow” the Dems might make in this resolution, it’s the fact that they might limit their options in any way while the President is un-bound by the resolution. It’s like me swearing to be faithful to Cameron Diaz.

  • “a bloodbath will ensue, it will be televised, and americans will be horrified with the results.” and this is different from the current situation how?

  • The bloodbath will be much, much worse than today, and for our country’s sake, we must be able to unanimously point to the most incompetent Administration in 140 years.

  • We don’t know that it’s going to get any worse. It might stay the same. The Iraqi army might step up, the best leaders might rise up.

    But if we stay it’s probably not going to get any better- if we stay the only reason we’re doing it is for Republican political gain, so that they can always say there are flower-filled fields just around the corner if we keep holding the course a little longer.

    Meanwhile millions are spent and American troops die. The Republicans don’t care about the American people.

  • just bill – there’s money currently being used to feed, house and supply and otherwise support the troops on an ongoing basis in Iraq. There’s no reason those funds cannot be directed at the costs of bringing them home, is there? It’s an accounting issue, not a funding issue.

    I heard Dennis Kucinich talking about this with Rachel Maddow; on his website, he explains it this way:

    Congress appropriated $70 billion in bridge funds on October 1 st for the war. Money from this and other DOD accounts can be used to fund the troops in the field over the next few months, and to pay for the cost of the return of the troops, (which has been estimated at between $5 and $7 billion dollars) while a political settlement is being negotiated and preparations are made for a transition to an international security and peacekeeping force.

    http://kucinich.us/node/1803

    Hope that helps!

  • The goddamn spineless idiots caved again. Can’t they see where we will be in a couple of months? Who gives a flying fig if they pass their wimpy non-binding “tut-tut” resolution, Bush is going to ignore the shit out of it anyway. Let them filibuster the American people. DARE THEM TO DO IT.

    In just a few months, after the “final” surge gets bogged down in the streets of Baghdad and we lose another thousand troops, the Dems will have the votes they need to cut off this charade. Letting Mitch “money talks” McConnell shape this debate, and letting him force us to make promises to fund a nightmare??? Is THAT what the American people voted for???

    This is bat-shit insane. This is just as stupid as trusting Bush to use the 2002 force authorization properly. Hell it’s even MORE stupid, because now we have all the years of shit between the two to look at.

    Our troops are literally running out of bullets and body armor*, and the Republicrooks are finally, FINALLY, running out of time. We need to prepare to pound the wooden stake through their hearts, not give them a goddamn breather. We need to be pushing the Overton window to include rapid withdrawal, impeachment, and war crimes trials.

    Shit, this kind of thing pisses me off. Getting this BS deal is not worth letting the Republicans off the hook.

    * http://www.businessweek.com/print/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jan2007/db20070130_624241.htm

  • thanks, anne and others. that’s what i like about carpetbagger is all the exchange of information.

  • you people are unbelievable … what do you think will happen after we leave? what is the plan … what is your exit strategy for that? the terrorists are not just going to stay home and fight each other.

  • sorry, b4buffalo. i don’t buy you last line any more than i bought the famous weapons of mass destruction. its all just another con job. i’m really tired of that ridiculous line of “either we fight them there or we fight them here”. bullshit. simply bullshit.

  • are you even listening to what the terrorists say in their videos? who do you think attacked in Beriut, Munich, Bali, Yemen, NY City, Arlington VA, London, Spain, and other places too numerous to mention? americans or friends of americans are the most desirable target anywhere in the world that the terrorists can strike

  • b4 buffalo seems to be saying that we should keep the terrorists out of America by sending them 2, 3 or 4 of our kids to kill each day in Iraq. I don’t mean to be hostile but if that’s not the intent, please explain it to me.

    Anne is sensible & rational but my heart is with Racerx: How is a non-binding resolution different from a 13 year old girl stamping her feet and screaming?

    Historically, when the occupying (colonial) force leaves the violence dies out. Why is Iraq different?

    Having once been a ‘troop’ I can assure you that we didn’t feel betrayed by the anti-war protesters. At least not until we got home. We were told that if we didn’t stop them there we would be fighting them on the beaches in California. That sure happened, didn’t it?

  • b4buffalo……do you suppose maybe they are attacking us because we won’t stop meddling in their affairs? if we stopped trying to run their countries and make them just like we want them to be, they’d leave us alone.

  • Go back to the Freepers where you belong, b4 bufalo. That way the fact you lack frontal lobes and opposable thumbs won’t be so blindlingly obvious.

    Assuming you’re such a “patriot,” why haven’t you signed up? Got “other priorities”? Too busy with “all day pool volleyball parties with ambitious secretaries”???

    And don’t worry about being too old – the Volkssturm is now taking 45 year old who want to play Target. Besides that, I hear there’s a crying need over there for sandbags, and you certainly fit the specifications.

  • Maybe they have to take a symbolic step before they can take one with teeth in it, and ANYthing they do that involves money will instantly be characterized as not supporting the troops – even though the current escalation plan will send 20,000 troops in without the necessary equipment and supplies.

    Why can’t they halt the escalation on the basis that they cannot properly equip or supply them? What good does more troops do if they have no trucks, no armor, etc? For four years we have been a military that has acted like any day the war will end, so what’s the point of ramping up production of equipment? Four years later and we are still unprepared to meet the requirements of the troops in harm’s way. It’s just crazy.

  • b4b, some facts might be in order. the terrorists in bali, london and madrid were largely locals. they weren’t “fighting us over there” (i.e. in Iraq) to begin with; indeed if you listen to what the 7/7 Londoners said, they were angry at their home country of Britain because Britain was in Iraq. It appears you only want us to listen to selective things the terrorists say, things that support your world view. this argument pro-war reactionaries make is nonsensical. not all of the terrorists in the world are in Iraq. and while right-wing hero Ronnie Raygun’s cut-n-run from Beiruit is alleged to have emboldened bin Laden, there is little evidence that it matters much whether we fight with massive numbers and decisive results (Gulf War I), go in and then withdraw (Beirut), or fail to go in at all (Rwanda, Sudan, etc etc etc).

    As Art K points out, we have now sent them as many Americans to kill as they were able to kill on 9/11. But we’ve made it easy by serving them up on an under-armored platter. How is this a bad deal for the terrorists?

  • On it’s face, a compromise looks disappointing, but diplomacy and negotiation is the acting of nudging things along, of getting the pawns in place before moving the bigger chess pieces. The wedge has been crafted and if Congress can pass this resolution, we will have cleaved away enough Repubs from supporting the president to make other more substantive moves.

    I’m impatient as well, but this is that time where the liquid has to congeal first before it turns into jello. Stir things up again by sticking to hard too our guns and nothing solidifies. The whole point of the resolution is to get pro-war Repubs listed in the anti-war camp. It’s all about creating a tipping point.

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