Sexual imagery I could do without

As the estimable David Kurtz put it, this is “too much Freud from a guy named Dick.”

Most striking were his virtually taunting remarks of two men he described as friends from his own days in the House: Democratic Reps. John Dingell (Mich.) and John P. Murtha (Pa.).

In a 40-minute interview with Politico, he scoffed at the idea of two men who spent years accruing power showing so much deference to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) in the big spending and energy debates of the year.

Murtha “and the other senior leaders … march to the tune of Nancy Pelosi to an extent I had not seen, frankly, with any previous speaker,” Cheney said. “I’m trying to think how to say all of this in a gentlemanly fashion, but [in] the Congress I served in, that wouldn’t have happened.”

But his implication was clear: When asked if these men had lost their spines, he responded, “They are not carrying the big sticks I would have expected.”

My, my. A woman House Speaker is wielding power over men chairing committees, and Dick Cheney is mocking them for lacking “big sticks”? Seriously?

Some Dems were subtle in their defense of Reps. Dingell and Murtha…

Reid (D-Nev.) said “Dingell and Murtha still carry very big sticks. If they’ve lost any pizzazz, I haven’t seen it.”

…and some were more direct.

Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.), who as Democratic Caucus Chair is the party’s fourth-ranking House leader, replied: “Some of us were surprised that the president didn’t have a bigger stick when he could have stood up to Dick Cheney.”

Ouch.

I’m tempted to ignore the substance of Cheney’s ridiculous comments, but I suppose as long as we’re here, I should note that his criticism doesn’t actually make any sense.

Pelosi runs the House efficiently, but the notion that powerful committee chairs like Dingell and Murtha have been rendered, shall we say, politically impotent is a real stretch. Both have shown a lot of influence in recent months, Murtha on Iraq policy, and Dingell on energy policy.

Cheney’s never seen “any previous speaker” keep a caucus in line like this? I suppose that’s an unexpected compliment from the hostile VP, but I think his memory is awfully short.

Was Cheney around, say, last year? Or the year before? Or perhaps 2005 and/or 2004? The House Republican leadership ran an efficient operation that tolerated no dissent or independent thought at all. If there were widespread defections from GOP committee chairs or back-benchers, they hid well.

Pelosi, in contrast, has Blue Dogs in the caucus, and a couple of dozen more progressive Dems who are afraid of their own shadow, and jump every time some right-winger yells, “Weak on terror!”

In Cheney’s worldview, a powerful House Speaker who struggles to maintain party loyalty is some kind of shrew, and committee chairman who follow the Speaker’s lead are eunuchs.

Cheney’s mind is just a dark, scary place, isn’t it?

Lines like that are why, for all his deviations from progressivism, I still sort of love Rahmbo.

(Not that there’s anything wrong with that.)

  • “Cheney’s mind is just a dark, scary place, isn’t it?”

    I guarantee you that it is not just his mind that is dark, scary and tragically warped beyond all recognition.

  • So, if Hillary Clinton becomes president, are we to assume that male members who put up a fight every time they were ordered to do something would be said to carry big sticks?

    No doubt those will come in handy in prison.

  • Cheney’s never seen “any previous speaker” keep a caucus in line like this? I suppose that’s an unexpected compliment from the hostile VP, but I think his memory is awfully short.

    “The Reagan defense” is all the style lately. Think Progress has a funny story where Cheney (like Rove) can’t seem to remember who was pushing for the Iraq war resolution.

    Q The issue is whether the White House was pushing, or Democrats were pushing.

    THE VICE PRESIDENT: I thought we had approached it on a fairly bipartisan basis, and that was reflected in the vote. And we also went through a process with respect to intelligence matters, work at the United Nations seeking resolutions from the U.N. Security Council that applied to the situation. But in terms of, you know, we were pushing, or the Democrats were pushing, that’s not — I’d have to go back and do a lot of research to have an opinion on that.

    http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/06/cheney-rove-iraq-vote/

  • Is this what political discourse has sunk to? Dick size? No wonder the country’s screwed. We’re run by a bunch of guys who have the mentality of junior high boys.

    And pardon me, Mr. Vice President, but when Lynn cracks the whip, I bet you jump, no matter how big your “stick” is.

  • Those who comment about the size of others’ sticks are usually those who are insecure about the size of their own.

    Which is why I will no longer comment on this topic.

    🙂

  • Wow. Cheney speaks, and unreformed fundamentalist Freudians do a jig of joy at being vindicated. Cheney has given hope to cranks everywhere, just not in the way he intended.

  • And it really is something for a ‘man’ who fought hard to obtain five deferments to avoid having to go to war to sit there and challenge others’ masculinity. Projecting much?

  • Is anyone surprised that Dick is, well, a dick? These guys should only be concerned if Larry Craig starts talking about this size of their stick.

    BAC

  • ROFL Meme, that is classic! It should be quoted far and wide. Someone send that to Olberman!

    And Anne made a funny @#8 , and it rhymed!

  • The worst thing about Murtha and Dingell not carrying big sticks is that it will be that much more difficult for them to go fuck themselves.

  • Dick Cheney doesn’t need to be talking about the size of anybody’s “stick” when we all suspect he’s got a twig. The tougher the talk, the smaller the stick.

  • All he’s good for…trying to stir up conflict. These reps don’t have an inferiority complex and aren’t stupid enough to think “we better act tougher or people will think we’re being ordered about by a ‘woman'”. Not even a good try Cheney…Not only have you become irrelevant in todays political discussion but it’s easy to see every time you open your mouth why your approval ratings are the lowest in the history of VPs.. Soon you will be in a cell scowling at anything that moves…kind of like now.

    Sorry Dick, my mother taught me not to speak badly of the dead.

  • Although there are documented photographs that indicate Cheney is rather ‘endowed’. Frankly, I think the bulge is a colostomy bag, or something similar.

  • ***btw Steve*** Who the hell are the “progressive dems who are afraid of their own shadow”? How could they be classified as progressive and be afraid of being seen as weak on terror? Progessives don’t act that way…am I missing something?

  • “Cheney’s mind is just a dark, scary place, isn’t it?”
    Scary doesn’t even begin to describe.

    Maybe if Dick’s stick was bigger, he would have had a gay child with a male Y chromosome, instead of a female gay child with dad’s female X chromosome. Which was not quite X enough to make a girl just like the girl who married dear old Stick Dad.

    “Those [men] who think with their genitals rather than with their minds, think with the smaller organ. – Old Confusion Saying

  • So let me see if I got this right. Teddy Roosevelt said speak softly and carry a big stick. And Dick Cheney seems to speak loudly an awful lot, which must mean, err, hmm, never mind… I really don’t want to think about this any longer.

  • Cheney prefers when someone like Tom Delay sticks his stick up the bums of the other Reps. to make them do the White House’s bidding. That’s the Congress Cheney approves of.

  • Is Cheney hoping sexism can be used as a wedge issue????

    Is he THAT clueless about the opposition?

    Uh, Dick, women with power bother YOUR guys, not ours. Thus no female presidential candidate this year and no female speaker of the house, like… EVER.

  • …..too much Freud from a guy named Dick”

    Outstanding! I wish I’d said it!

    Seriously, who is Cheney to question the manhood of Murtha, of all people?? Murtha actually served his country in the military. He didn’t shirk the way the coward, Cheney, did. The only stones Cheney has are the ones he uses to attack a woman and to send other people’s sons and daughters into a war that he and his dumbass “boss” mislead the country into initiating.

    Without a doubt Cheney and Bush represent the absolute worst this country has to offer. Small wonder we are this fix.

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