Shocking! Stunning! New poll shows Americans like religion

Guest Post by Morbo

A poll released last week revealed, once again, that Americans like religion.

In results that surprised absolutely no one, a solid majority of Americans told pollsters they consider faith important. Another key finding, that people in Western Europe are less religious than Americans, also restated the obvious.

The poll, conducted by the Associated Press and a Canadian polling group called Ipsos, surveyed attitudes toward religion in 10 countries. Several U.S. media outlets breathlessly reported the results as if they were somehow surprising. One headline I saw read, “AP Poll: Religion Key in American Lives.” What’s next: “Sun Rises in East”?

The AP seemed to think it was news that 39 percent of Americans believe religious leaders should try to influence elected officials. The AP noted that this figure is “notably higher than in other countries.”

But this is not news. Polls always show that Americans are more religious than the residents of other Western nations and more likely to tolerate religious groups meddling in politics. What is news is that 61 percent of Americans say religious leaders should not try to influence elected officials. This is news for two reasons: one, the number has increased over the years and two, the finding undercuts the common Religious Right claim that Americans want more intervention in their lives from conservative clerics.

Going a little deeper, one can conclude from these results that most Americans have reconciled their personal religious beliefs with an acknowledgment of the need for some form of separation of church and state. Again, this debunks the Religious Right’s view. According to the Religious Right, if you’re really serious about religion, you will support government action to push your faith onto everyone else. The poll says the opposite: Most Americans value religion but reject state promotion of specific sectarian views.

I’ve long believed that when it comes to religion, most Americans have adopted a “live-and-let-live” attitude. You do your thing, and I’ll do mine. Americans probably aren’t bothered by generic endorsements of watered-down civic religion by the government. They don’t care if there is a Nativity Scene in front of city hall in late December. I think they should care, but the fact is most don’t and probably never will.

But they do care if a pharmacist who opposes birth control on religious grounds won’t fill their prescription for contraceptives. They care when aggressive fundamentalists intervene in a personal family matter and insist that a dying person be kept alive through artificial means. They care when their kid is pressured to recite someone else’s prayer in a public school. They care when far-right zealots try to remove books from the public library.

In other words, they care when it hits home.

It’s interesting to read the poll results and speculate why religion remains so strong in American and so anemic in Western Europe. I have some thoughts on that but will save them for another time. I find the poll worthwhile, but I wish the media had not missed the real story: Mainly, that it is possible to be a person of faith and still strongly oppose religious control of the government.

Now that’s news.

(groans) It would be nice to know what a less religious American would be like.

  • 39 percent of Americans believe religious leaders should try to influence elected officials. The AP noted that this figure is “notably higher than in other countries.”

    Other countries like Canada and European countries. I think they could easily find similarly high (or higher) figures in countries like Iraq, Iran, Israel, maybe Jordan and Saudi Arabia….

  • I read somewhere that Washington, where I live, is the least-churched state in the nation. You know what? Society hasn’t collapsed here. I don’t think we’re any more sinful than anywhere else either. In fact, it’s rather nice. Almost too nice. FDR’s campaign manager (later Post Master General) James A. Farley used to refer to “the 47 states and the Soviet [pron. SAH-viet] of Washington”. I don’t know what he meant by that, but I’ve always liked the phrase.

  • “I think they could easily find similarly high (or higher) figures in countries like Iraq, Iran, Israel, maybe Jordan and Saudi Arabia.”

    No doubt of it. Here is something we need to try: Go up to your local wingnut theocrat and ask him this question — “Suppose the Constitution were amended to read this way: ‘The government of the United States is a system based on belief in God, His exclusive sovereignty and the right to legislate, and the necessity of submission to His commands; divine revelation and its fundamental role in setting forth the laws; the return to God in the Hereafter, and the constructive role of this belief in the course of man’s ascent towards God; the justice of God in creation and legislation.'”
    And then ask “Do you think this would be a good idea?” I suspect you would find quite a few who think that it would be just dandy if the Constitution were to read that way.

    Then you tell them where it actually comes from: the constitution of Iran, linchpin of the Axis of Evil (all you did was substitute “United States” for “Islamic Republic of Iran”). I’d be interested to see their reaction. I submitted this as part of a letter to the editor of my local paper, but they have yet to print it. I wonder why.

    The United States and Iran — we’d make quite a pair, wouldn’t we?

  • Jeff,

    Excellent point. I noticed as I was reading Morbo’s post that the phrase he used for the religious right’s leaders, “conservative clerics,” was surprisingly powerful in that Iran’s mullahs are usually referred to in these terms. You rarely see that semantic sword drawn against the religious right’s honchos here. It wouldn’t hurt for us to co-opt these terms and start reframing the debate to more clearly draw that comparison for all to see.

  • Forgotten Truths;
    (1) The bible is a book.
    (2) The bible is much like the book written by Miller/Molesky, written to persuade people to think a particular way about particular subjects.
    (3) “Conservative Clerics” tout “the word of God”, when there is NO word of God for he wrote nothing.
    (4) The words the “Consevative Clerics” wish us to accept as God’s words were written by a human claiming to have been in the presents of Jesus (son of God).
    (5) Most of the bible is a History book, nothing more.
    (6) The bible is an assembly of words written by more than one hundred different people over more than 1000 years.
    (7) The bible was translated from Greek/Hebrew and today we are unsure of the meaning of some of the old symbols used during the time of writing.
    (8) ALL modern religions are based on an assembly of words written thousands of years ago, but none were written by God.
    (9) ALL modern religions are based on a false premiss that there exists a “word of God”.
    (10) ALL modern religions are based on a HISTORY BOOK.

  • Ah yes. Armed ascetic fundamentalist religious fanatics. They founded this country. And the fuckers are still here.

    Every Thanksgiving, I curse those bastards, and their fucking black hats with the silver buckles. PURITANS. Came here to form a theocratic utopia. Their direct political descendants– the Dobsons and Robertsons and Falwells– are still in charge.

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