Snow the latest to compare Bush to Lincoln

For quite a while, Bush and his supporters were absolutely convinced that he is a modern-day Truman, suffering with low approval ratings, but whose stature grew in subsequent decades.

The good news is, Bushies no longer believe he’s a modern-day Truman. The bad news is, they’re now convinced he’s a modern-day Lincoln. Consider Fox News’ Tony Snow on The Colbert Report last night:

COLBERT: Latest polls have his approval rating at 19 percent, which is low for a President but very high for a fetish.

SNOW: Ouch…. They actually hated Truman. They hated Lincoln. Lincoln as late as late-1864 was telling his guys to get ready the next incoming administration of George McClellan.

This seems to be part of a trend. Last month, in a Fox News interview, Bush equated himself with Lincoln. Last week, disgraced former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales “repeatedly made references comparing himself and the Bush administration to the presidency of Abraham Lincoln, suggesting that Lincoln was highly criticized during his presidency and is now highly revered.” As Amanda noted, “Conservatives including Newt Gingrich, John Gibson, David Brooks, Glenn Beck, and Rudy Giuliani have also taken up the comparison.”

As long as these guys continue to cling to the fantasy, we might as well go to the trouble of pointing out how very silly this is.

First, Snow’s point that Lincoln feared electoral defeat in 1864 is true. It’s also true that Lincoln was nevertheless popular enough to win re-election by 10 points. (Granted, half the country didn’t vote due to the Civil War, but Lincoln won 21 of the 24 states still in the Union. “Unpopular” isn’t the first word that comes to mind.)

Second, the comparison itself is almost child-like. To hear the president and his supporters tell it, both led controversial administrations, and both faced their share of derision, therefore, the two have to be similar. By that logic, every unpopular president rejected by the nation gets to say, “I’m just like Lincoln!”

Nonsense. Garret Epps had an item in Salon a while back that scrutinized the differences between Bush and Lincoln.

…Lincoln had none of Bush’s obstinacy and egotism. He scorned yes men, and surrounded himself with Cabinet officials better known than he was, refusing to purge even those actively working against his own political interests. He had no personal vanity at all (when a political opponent accused him of being “two-faced,” Lincoln responded, “If I had two faces, would I be wearing this one?”). The historical imagination rebels at the very idea of his swaggering around in the cavalry equivalent of Bush’s flight suit. He was always ready to sit down with his adversaries, favored compromise whenever possible and never held a grudge. “With malice toward none, with charity toward all” was for Lincoln more than a rhetorical flourish; it was the key to his greatness.

Most important, Lincoln was a lawyer. It is hard to find any sign that Lincoln thought himself above the law. He had none of Bush’s scorn for procedures and rights. He used executive authority in an emergency — and always dutifully reported to Congress and asked for its ratification as soon as a new session began. He restricted civil liberties temporarily, and without enthusiasm — he once compared his suspension of habeas corpus to the drugs doctors give to induce vomiting. Unlike this administration — which will not ask for legal authority even when it knows it will receive it — Lincoln never did anything to prove a point. He didn’t have an authoritarian bone in his lanky body. His objective was victory for the Union, not power for himself.

George W. Bush is Lincoln the way Dan Quayle is Jack Kennedy.

In reality, there is one historical parallel that actually makes sense — though I don’t think the Bushies care for it.

Lincoln? Seriously?

Why not just compare him directly to Jesus and be done with it.

  • Lincoln stopped the Supreme Court from issuing an opinion concerning Maryland when Maryland appeared like it was going to join the south.

    I hate to admit it but it was a greater violation of the Constitution than anything Bush did.

  • Bush and Lincoln would be twins except that Lincoln was trying to unify the nation and recognized the civil rights of individuals through the Emancipation Proclamation (yes, he did suspend habeas corpus, though) while has proudly done the exact opposite.

    … And Lincoln was smart and a good orator …. and …

  • What they forget in the Truman comparison is that Truman’s low point in the polls came when he fired Douglas MacArthur for essentially bucking civilian control of the military and agitating for World War III with China. Truman’s reputation has soared since then because it’s been recognized that he was right to be moderate and restrained in his foreign policy.

    Bush’s reputation isn’t likely to recover in the same way.

  • Mark Penn would like it known for the record that Lincoln was an inexperienced state legislator from Illinois who was just a good speaker.

  • “To hear the president and his supporters tell it, both led controversial administrations, and both faced their share of derision, therefore, the two have to be similar. By that logic, every unpopular president rejected by the nation gets to say, “I’m just like Lincoln!””

    I’m reminded again of an old Calvin and Hobbes cartoon where Calvin, touting his genius, says, “You know how Einstein got bad grades in school as a kid? Well, mind are even worse!”

    It’s sad that a lot of the administration’s statements remind me first and foremost of punchlines.

  • The gross dissimilarities begin at the very beginning, and in their different upbringing.

    Can you see Duhyba studying law by fire light after a hard day of physical labor?

    Did Lincoln cheat his way into office?

    Did Lincoln start the war he fought?

    Did Lincoln stand before the nation and the world and lie to justify starting a bloody and destructive war? Duhyba did.

    Assuming for argument’s sake that General Lee had been Lincoln’s puppet in the South, did or would Lincoln have started a war with an entire nation, the Confederacy, just to kill Lee?

    Lincoln sought peace as quickly as it could be reasonably gained. Has Bush?

    Lincoln sought no vengeance against the South, or his opponents, though most Northerners did and still do. The Bushies are very into vengeance.

    Anybody want to bet if the Iraq/Afgan wars ended this week whether all the Bushie BS combined could give us a modern day equivalent of the Gettysburg Address?
    That is because Lincoln was a Man of Great Worth. Duhyba is just rich. And he has too vacuous a mind to realize the difference.

    As the late and much missed Molly Ivins said about Duhyba’s dad, “Deep down, he is really shallow.” That is probably the truest phrase to describe the Emperors Bush I and II and their family and court.

  • Bush to Abe? Wrong.

    The corrected equation
    Bush = Lincoln Log (a broken and dog chewed up one)

  • Lincoln freed the slaves.
    Bush has in many ways created slaves:
    stop loss orders involuntarily hold soldiers in their jobs;
    Bush’s economic mess has put so many low income workers underwater on their homes or cash flow that they have to accept without complaint wage and hour and workplace safety violations just to make sure ends barely meet — wage slaves.

    and no one is ever going to use the nickname “Honest George” with regard to Bushie.

    he is, in almost every way, the Anti-Lincoln.

  • Bush can’t even find a couple of old men and their half-witted pet mullah in a Pakistani cave, for crying out loud. If He’s Lincoln, then gods help us if the Confederacy ever rises from the grave—Stonewall and Bobby Lee would be enjoying juleps and playing cards on the WH lawn about 30 minutes after the battle started.

    Of course, they’d have gotten rid of Bush and Cheney a whole lot faster than Pelosi—which, in and of itself, wouldn’t exactly be a bad thing….

  • Maybe he’s a bit more like Don Quixote. He sallies forth to bring virtue to the outposts of tyranny, while unequipped and unable to distinguish windmills (weather balloons) from hulking giants (WMD), or goat herders from assassins (Al Qaeda). He dresses in the costumes of childhood heroes (baseball player, fireman, fighter pilot, cowboy). He praises Christianity (and in Bush’s case democracy) while literally praying to an idealized damsel (unitary executive). Everyone sees him as a fool, except his closest friends and those who use him for their personal ends.

  • Anybody here seen that old fiend, Dubya?
    Can you tell me where he’s gone?
    I thought I saw him high-tailing back home to Crawford
    With Cheneystein, Condi, and Don.

    If there was any justice, the Bush sycophants who try to compare him favorably with Lincoln would be subjected to prolonged public “oral cleansings” with cakes of Lava soap.

  • Bush is a modern-day LBJ, save for at least four important differences:

    1. LBJ was born in Texas, not Connecticut
    2. LBJ actually gave a rat’s ass about minorities and the poor.
    3. LBJ had nightmares about the troops dying in Vietnam, because he actually had a semblance of a conscience; Bush sleeps like a baby because he’s a sociopath.
    4. LBJ was ultimately a casualty of his war; while Bush will neither suffer a sleepless night nor die of a heart attack brought about by remorse, because he’s too goddamned busy comparing his tattered and blood-stained presidential “legacy” to those of more morally courageous presidents like Lincoln and Truman.

    Come to think of it, for all his faults, LBJ wasn’t half the bastard Bush is.

  • The only parallel between George and Abe is that they both have a hole in their heads where some brain should be. But Lincoln’s hole wasn’t a life-long problem.

  • Unfortunately, Bush probably won’t live long enough to see himself become fully recognized as the incompetent loser that he has always been. The same sycophants that have isolated him from reality will protect him to the end.

  • Maybe I am the only one bothered by this but it drives me crazy to see Snow, Kristol and others get these platforms (Colbert and Stewart). It legitimizes them where there is absolutely nothing legitimate about them.

    /rant

  • Tony Snow has been trying out this comparison for a while now. I personally heard it at a corporate event he was speaking at in October. In the Q&A session, it was pointed out by an attendee that Bush was no Truman or Lincoln.

  • Lincoln won the Civil war and did it in less time than Bush has been trying to catch ONE PERSON.

    Bush has lost every war he’s started – even the wrong one (no WMD in Iraq) he started thinking it was some sort of slam dunk Mission Accomplished. And let’s not split hairs on that – somebody else is going to have to win them so he LOST them.

    Bush and Lincoln – good freaking luck with that!

    And as if we have to ask – where is Osama Bin Laden?

  • (Granted, half the country didn’t vote due to the Civil War, but Lincoln won 21 of the 24 states still in the Union. “Unpopular” isn’t the first word that comes to mind.)

    Well sure, but if you add that Southern vote in there he and Bush would be similar in popularity.

  • Lincoln was a lawyer and never considered himself above the law. What a bunch of crap. Lincoln eliminated the the right to habeus corpus and had anyone who commented against the was or negatively against him put in jail. Oh, yes, he was a solid follower of the Constitution! Lincoln was a TYRANT!

  • Lincoln was a lawyer and never considered himself above the law. What a bunch of crap. Lincoln eliminated the the right to habeus corpus and had anyone who commented against the was or negatively against him put in jail. Oh, yes, he was a solid follower of the Constitution! Lincoln was a TYRANT!

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