Stick a fork in it

A couple of weeks ago, a confident president said his immigration package was going to pass. “I’ll see you at the bill signing,” Bush said

So much for that idea.

The Senate drove a stake Thursday through President Bush’s plan to legalize millions of unlawful immigrants, likely postponing major action on immigration until after the 2008 elections.

The bill’s supporters fell 14 votes short of the 60 needed to limit debate and clear the way for final passage of the legislation, which critics assailed as offering amnesty to illegal immigrants. The vote was 46 to 53 in favor of limiting the debate.

Senators in both parties said the issue is so volatile that Congress is highly unlikely to revisit it this fall or next year, when the presidential election will increasingly dominate American politics.

Sure, we thought the bill was dead earlier this month, and it came back for a second round, but this time it’s really dead. The AP’s “drove a stake” metaphor is telling.

The roll call on the key vote is online. The 46 votes to allow the bill to proceed were made up of 33 Dems, 12 Republicans, and Joe Lieberman. The 53 votes to block the bill included 37 Republicans, 15 Dems, and Bernie Sanders. Before David Broder blames Dems for the bill’s failure, let’s keep in mind that nearly 70% of the Senate Democratic caucus backed the legislation this morning, whereas 75% of the Senate GOP caucus voted to block the bill.

As for the big picture, let’s look at the winners and losers.

Or, more accurately, the losers. From the last time I thought the bill was dead….

* President Bush: The president couldn’t rally support from Republicans, a failure which ultimately did the legislation in. The result makes the White House look even weaker and more ineffective than it did, say, last week. In case there was any doubt, Bush’s reservoir of “political capital” is now, officially, empty. Also keep in mind, immigration reform is the one major, sweeping policy area in which the White House and congressional Democratic leaders are at least near the same page. With this legislation falling apart, Bush appears to have lost his only shot at scoring a major legislative victory in the 110th Congress.

* John McCain: The presidential hopeful put his neck on the line to fight for immigration legislation that the GOP base hated. McCain gets the worst of all worlds — he couldn’t lead his own Republican colleagues well enough to get his bill through the Senate, and Republican activists resent him for even trying. In the end, McCain has nothing to show for his efforts except weaker support from those who vote in presidential primaries.

* Conservative critics of the status quo: Most on the right are understandably thrilled with today’s developments. They fought hard to kill the bill, and by all appearances, they succeeded. But they may ultimately regret it. First, a hard-line conservative bill won’t magically replace the legislation they just killed. Second, as Kevin Drum noted, their prospects for the future aren’t encouraging: “[W]hen do they think they’re going to get another crack at this? It’s going to be years, and at this point it looks to me like the political environment in the future is more likely to be more liberal than it is to be more conservative. My guess is that the hardliners aren’t going to get a better deal in 2010 than the one they voted down.”

Stick a fork in it

Good. Figure this shit out when our house is back in order and the 9/11 Hijackers of Democracy are purportedly escorted out of the White House on 1/20/2009 (preferably in hand-cuffs).

Speaking of which, the Dems should pass one of their do-nothing resolutions and make 1/20/2009 a national day of celebration.

  • Why can’t we have a database of people who are legally able to work here?

    We have an INSTANT background check to buy a gun. That database has to be updated with all sorts of data on criminal convictions and other things. The gun database has to be far more complicated but it is INSTANT.

    We can’t even get a background check for workers here even if you had a week/month/year/decade.

    So which is it?

    is the gun database so much better or is the gun database and instant background checks a crock of ….?

  • Neil Wilson is missing the principle. It’s a little like “you shouldn’t mind being surveilled if you didn’t do anything wrong.” It doesn’t work like that (or at least it’s not supposed to)

    The gun database only shows people with problems that prevent them from owning a firearm. The database he is proposing would require every citizen to prove to the state that he is a citizen.

  • The Senate drove a stake Thursday through President Bush’s plan…

    Here’s hoping they’re sharpening one for Dick “Prince of Darkness” Cheney.

    Would it be too much sour grapes to wish the presiDud was taking a pounding on an issue that didn’t involve the “They’re stealin’ our jobs” mentality?

    Oh well. Maybe the ReThugs will see that the world doesn’t end when they disagree with Clueless Leader and start to do it more often.

    [Looks out window for flying pigs]

  • Neil (#2), while the Brady background check system is effective, it is not comprehensive. If it was comprehensive, the Virginia Tech shooting would not have occurred because the shooter’s mental health records from court hearings would have shown that he was a danger to himself or others and he would have been ineligible to purchase his weapons. Rep. Carolyn McCarthy’s bill HR297, which passed the House two weeks ago and still needs to pass the Senate, would improve the system by facilitating fuller participation and compliance from all fifty states.

    As far as the immigration bill goes, it can’t go away quickly enough. It raises emotional objections among all parts of the electorates and is hurting the Democrats just as it’s hurting the Republicans. I hear the objections and complaints daily from people throughout the country, and they’re angry! I wish we had seen this anger about Iraq!! We need to wait for a Democratic administration that will provide reasonable, effective, and INTELLIGENT enforcement and then address further issues within the more comprehensive scope. At a time when we need to make sure that Democrats win next year and win big (let’s not forget the House and Senate), this issue is driving away voters. I swear this is the first time I’ve ever heard Democrats spit while saying Ted Kennedy’s name. I think the intentions of most Democratic leaders are good, but the timing sucks!

  • “Before David Broder blames Dems for the bill’s failure, let’s keep in mind that nearly 70% of the Senate Democratic caucus backed the legislation this morning, whereas 75% of the Senate GOP caucus voted to block the bill.”

    And please correct me if I am wrong, but if the 15 Dems voted yay, then wouldn’t this bill still be alive? How are the Dems also not losers in this well when they, the majority party, can’t even get their own ducks in a row?

    And what about the implications for all these unfortunate illegal immigrants???

  • “As far as the immigration bill goes, it can’t go away quickly enough. It raises emotional objections among all parts of the electorates and is hurting the Democrats just as it’s hurting the Republicans.”

    Phonatic, Way to put politics over policy… and people wonder why Congress is approaching all time low poll ratings!

  • Phonatic, Way to put politics over policy… and people wonder why Congress is approaching all time low poll ratings!

    It’s Phonatic’s fault that congressional approval ratings are low?

  • “My guess is that the hardliners aren’t going to get a better deal in 2010 than the one they voted down.”

    My guess is that they weren’t even smart enough to think of that and are now going “Oh shit, He’s right. We screwed up.”

  • The majority of Rs voted against an up or down vote. This needs to be used in Democratic ad campaigns for 2008 as more evidence that it is Rs blocking procedures, along with Presidential vetoes, that are preventing Congressional action from becoming law. Also, that if a majority of the Rs had voted in favor along with the majority of the Ds then bipartisan action would have moved the bill along. Having all Ds or Rs vote the same is not necessary and indeed was what led in large part to the deserved rejection of DeLay’s tactics and the Ds winning in 2006.

  • It wasn’t a good bill for immigrants. Guest worker is nothing short of slavery.

    But after the reversal of Brown v. Bd of Ed, we’ll have our own slaves oon enough.

    Disgusting is all I have to say.

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