Stoking some pretty dangerous fires

Over-the-top rhetoric isn’t unusual for some of Congress’ leading Republicans, but when it comes to the federal judiciary, some of these guys push the envelope pretty hard. And then some.

Tom DeLay, as you’ll recall, made some veiled threats against judges after the Terri Schiavo controversy. Shortly thereafter, Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) said judges who are the victims of violence may bring the attacks onto themselves with liberal rulings. Just as the rhetoric started to cool down again, DeLay returned to the subject, insisting that the federal courts had “run amok” and needed to be reined in.

As John Cole noted today, this was “blatant pandering to the lunatic wing of the religious right.” And as it turns out, some of the vitriol also became rather dangerous.

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said she and former Justice Sandra Day O’Connor have been the targets of death threats from the “irrational fringe” of society, people apparently spurred by Republican criticism of the high court.

Ginsburg revealed in a speech in South Africa last month that she and O’Connor were threatened a year ago by someone who called on the Internet for the immediate “patriotic” killing of the justices.

Like John , I appreciate the fact DeLay, Cornyn, and other Republican office holders aren’t directly responsible for how lunatics respond their comments. These guys aren’t literally advocating violence against judges.

But I can’t help but note the inconsistencies of the approach taken by people like DeLay. They insist that Hollywood poisons the culture with negative ideas that ultimately turn into dangerous behavior. But when DeLay makes veiled threats against judges, and far-right activists respond criminally, the “era of responsibility” ends and he’s not to blame. One thing’s for sure: DeLay and his cohorts don’t mind stoking some pretty dangerous fires.

needed to be reigned in.

Pet peeve: they needed to be reined in, like a horse. (Rather than given free rein.)

  • Delay is a gaint turd, the funny thing will be when the tables are turned to listen to how indignant he becomes.

  • That’s CB for you. Always with the little slips that make a difference. People like DeLay who support our wanna-be king would love to see a “reign” where Hollywood is “reined” in.

    What’s the difference between the King George we fought the Revolutionary War against and the King George we have now?

    The old King George acknowledged limits to his power and had a legislative body that was aware of it’s rights and responsibilities. The one we have now neither acknowledges limits to his power nor has a legislative body willing to oversee him.

  • My friend and I would say what you wrote was a Cosmic Twinkie moment. I was thinking the same thing when I read John’s post.

  • Republicans, of the ilk discussed (i.e., today’s leaders and most of their followers), are criminals. They are utterly without taste and don’t know the meaning of cooperation or compromise. They are thugs, and they deserve to be treated as such.

  • Was interesting to read John Cole’s blog. As I posted there, it’s time conservatives learned the difference between “conservative” and “right winger.” In 1933, the good German conservatives got it wrong, and by the time they figured it out in 1944, it was too late.

    For conservatrives, it’s time to stop standing on the curb averting their eyes while the thugs kick everything they believe in into the gutter.

  • Maybe Ann Coulter should be taken more seriously and reported to the authorities.

    Oh, wait, she SUPPORTS the administration……. not like she’s handing out fliers against war.

  • needed to be reigned in.
    Pet peeve: they needed to be reined in- Allen K.

    while we’re at it, let’s “rain ” them in too. .

    People not from the pacific northwest can be deterred by soggy weather. .

  • Always with the little slips that make a difference. … a legislative body that was aware of it’s rights

    A legislative body that is aware of it is rights? Le droit, c’est moi!

  • “I appreciate the fact DeLay, Cornyn, and other Republican office holders aren’t directly responsible for how lunatics respond their comments. These guys aren’t literally advocating violence against judges.”

    I wish I could be as sure about this as you apparently are. I’m not.

  • Remember that one of the attacks Cornyn cited as proof liberal judges bring violence upon themselves was a certifiably crazy guy.

    So Cornyn thinks that lone gunmen are a fourth branch of government. That’s a sterling commitment to the rule of law. I wish I could remember if it was Madison or Jefferson who drafted that part of the Constitution.

    Or is that unfair? What was the other attack Cornyn cited? Oh, that was the “Meth-Driven Life” courtroom escapee. A convicted rapist/murderer.

    These are the people John Cornyn would empower to counteract judges. The next time you hear someone complain about judicial activism, ask them if this is a superior legal remedy. Because that’s what John Cornyn (and Tom DeLay, etc.) believe in. That crazy people with guns are the legal equal of the government.

    And we’re still trying to figure out how far they would go? I think they’ve already told us, and they’re already doing it.

  • I’m a lawyer that practiced before the honorable Judge Lefkow in Chicago. I have no idea what her politics are. But, when Judge Lefkow’s mother and husband were killed by an angry litigant, I was shocked and offended by Sen. Cornyn’s comments immediately following that tragedy. I wrote to him to express my outrage. Of course, he has never apologized for or retracted them. Par for the course with these guys.

  • I’m thinking about writing to Ronnie Earle about what I found about DeLay’s “charities” but I don’t send anonymous letters and I don’t want get involved in any “investigation”. A few months ago, I started to put some of the info together at the TPM Cafe but the info is still in raw form.

    The three charities that DeLay is involved with are the DeLay Foundation for Kids, the Oaks at Rio Bend and Celebrations for Children.
    The 990s for all three charities can be found at the Foundation Center’s 990 Finder, an invaluable public service.

    Besides the usual abuse, I noticed the George Foundation of Richmond Texas donated land to the Oaks at Rio Bend. According to the George Foundation’s 990s, the donation of land was first earmarked in 2001 which is the same year that one of the George Foundation trustees, Charles H. Herder, made his one and only $1,000 contribution to DeLay’s campaign. Herder is big in Texas real estate.

    The George Foundation is immensely wealthy. It owns 21,000 acres in Fort Bend County TX which includes DeLay’s district. The land and oil rights are worth about $83 million. The foundation also owns more than $144 million in stocks and bonds. The 990s are available online at the 990 Finder linked above. This George Foundation is the one from Texas with
    $237 million in assets.

    In the same year the George Foundation made a donation to DeLay’s Oaks at Rio Bend, the foundation made an unusual sale of land at cost to a mysterious “Leahman”. The value of the land was worth at least five times more than its cost and I’m thinking that maybe there is a link to Mr. DeLay here.

    I also noticed that the George Foundation appears to be doing business with foreign investment companies in the last couple of years and its assets doubled. Certainly the kind of organization that wouldn’t escape the attention of the House majority leader.

    LOL – If anyone knows Ronnie Earle, tell him I have a hot tip for him.

  • Justice O’Connor has also been speaking out on this matter. Last week she gave an address to an audience of corporate lawyers at Georgetown University in which she alluded to DeLay and Cornyn’s antics and said, “We must be ever-vigilant against those who would strong-arm the judiciary.”

  • DeLay may not be advocating literal violence against judges, but I believe he advocates and would do everything he could to do violence to our form of government. He would do violence to our Constitution and the separation of powers – all to bring power to himself and his like-minded cronies. All this appears to be the in service of an ideology, but that ideology is merely a means to the ends of power and wealth.

  • Tom DeLay is a bully, to be sure—but, as with most bullies, Tom DeLay is a tail-tucking yellowbelly. If the Civil War were to be re-fought, right here and now, neither Texas, nor any other State within the Confederacy, would let this “dishonorably-pathetic excuse for a man” wear the uniform. And I’d really like the idiot to read these words—and implode….

  • Why is it that the liberal left looks at christian fundamonkeys, and calls them dangerous, but when they look at Islamic fundamonkeys, they call them freedom fighters.

  • “they look at Islamic fundamonkeys, they call them freedom fighters.”

    Because we created them to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan, remember 😉

  • So they’re not dangerous if they’re flying stolen improvised cruise missiles into American cities?

    You guys are theorists who have lost sight of the real world.

  • ISLAMIC FUNDAMONKEYS BLOW GOATS & EAT SHIT!!!!!!!!!

    There, happy?

    Where has anyone here called the the forces killing our troops “freedom-fighters” I’m sure the vast majority of us here realize that these characters are a serious threat, just as you do. Like Lance pointed out, twenty years ago these same people were praised by Republicans as “freedom fighters”. Same group, same mentality, just now they’re biting the hand that fed them in the 1980s.

    The reason why christian “fundamonkeys” are criticized here is:
    1) the amount of leverage they have with the Republican-led government is rather disturbing;
    2) as they are no vast hordes of “islamic fundamonkeys” waiting to swoop down on us like the Mongols on Europe, the Moral Majority crowd are in a greater position to force their ideals and visions on the majority of the country;
    and finally
    3) they just say a lot of stupid shit that’s great to make fun of.

    Just my thoughts.

  • Comments are closed.