Sunday Discussion Group

George W. Bush openly mocked the very idea of “nation building” as a presidential candidate in 2002, but after 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan, Bush seemed to appreciate the importance of his responsibilities and the task at hand. He was aware of the fact that Afghans had been abandoned by the West before, and Bush, in April 2000, vowed to avoid the syndrome of “initial success, followed by long years of floundering and ultimate failure.”

“We’re not going to repeat that mistake,” he said. “We’re tough, we’re determined, we’re relentless.”

At the time, I was cautiously optimistic that he meant it. I thought it was at least possible that the president would see the mission through and, with 9/11 in mind, make a real commitment to Afghanistan. As the New York Times explains today in a gripping retrospective, Bush, through a combination of incompetence, arrogance, neglect, and poor judgment, managed to throw “the good war” badly off course. As the administration’s Iraq policy failed spectacularly, Afghanistan was relegated to an “afterthought.”

At critical moments in the fight for Afghanistan, the Bush administration diverted scarce intelligence and reconstruction resources to Iraq, including elite C.I.A. teams and Special Forces units involved in the search for terrorists. As sophisticated Predator spy planes rolled off assembly lines in the United States, they were shipped to Iraq, undercutting the search for Taliban and terrorist leaders, according to senior military and intelligence officials.

As defense secretary, Donald H. Rumsfeld claimed credit for toppling the Taliban with light, fast forces. But in a move that foreshadowed America’s trouble in Iraq, he failed to anticipate the need for more forces after the old government was gone, and blocked an early proposal from Colin L. Powell, then the secretary of state, and Mr. Karzai, the administration’s handpicked president, for a large international force. As the situation deteriorated, Mr. Rumsfeld and other administration officials reversed course and cajoled European allies into sending troops.

When it came to reconstruction, big goals were announced, big projects identified. Yet in the year Mr. Bush promised a “Marshall Plan” for Afghanistan, the country received less assistance per capita than did postconflict Bosnia and Kosovo, or even desperately poor Haiti, according to a RAND Corporation study. Washington has spent an average of $3.4 billion a year reconstructing Afghanistan, less than half of what it has spent in Iraq, according to the Congressional Research Service.

The White House contends that the troop level in Afghanistan was increased when needed and that it now stands at 23,500. But a senior American commander said that even as the military force grew last year, he was surprised to discover that “I could count on the fingers of one or two hands the number of U.S. government agricultural experts” in Afghanistan, where 80 percent of the economy is agricultural. A $300 million project authorized by Congress for small businesses was never financed.

How is it possible that Bush managed to bungle two wars so thoroughly?

The NYT piece is more a reminder than an eye-opener, but given the attention directed at Bush’s mistakes in Iraq, Bush’s mistakes in Afghanistan are too frequently overlooked. The administration had a rare opportunity to do some real good — Afghans welcomed the U.S. presence, the international community supported our mission, the American electorate had largely rallied behind the cause, and there was reliable intelligence pointing the way towards what needed to be done.

And the Bush gang managed to screw it up anyway.

Sixteen months after the president’s 2002 speech, the United States Agency for International Development, the government’s main foreign development arm, had seven full-time staffers and 35 full-time contract staff members in Afghanistan, most of them Afghans, according to a government audit. Sixty-one agency positions were vacant.

“It was state building on the cheap, it was a duct tape approach,” recalled Said T. Jawad, Mr. Karzai’s chief of staff at the time and Afghanistan’s current ambassador to Washington. “It was fixing things that were broken, not a strategic approach.” […]

On May 1, hours before Mr. Bush stood beneath a “Mission Accomplished” banner, Mr. Rumsfeld appeared at a news conference with Mr. Karzai in Kabul’s threadbare 19th-century presidential palace. “We clearly have moved from major combat activity to a period of stability and stabilization and reconstruction activities,” he said. “The bulk of the country today is permissive, it’s secure.”

The Afghanistan announcement was largely lost in the spectacle of Mr. Bush’s speech. But the predictions of stability proved no less detached from events on the ground.

Three weeks later, Afghan government workers who had not been paid for months held street demonstrations in Kabul. An exasperated Mr. Karzai publicly threatened to resign and announced that his government had run out of money because warlords were hoarding the customs revenues. “There is no money in the government treasury,” Mr. Karzai said.

At the same time, the American-led training of a new Afghan Army was proving far more difficult than officials in Washington had expected…. A senior White House official said in a recent interview that in retrospect, putting different countries in charge of different operations was a mistake. “We piecemealed it,” he said. “One of the problems is when everybody has a piece, everybody’s piece is made third and fourth priority. Nobody’s piece is first priority. Stuff didn’t get done.”

In terms of a Discussion Group topic, I’m not exactly sure how to articulate this, but I suppose my question is this: can anyone even imagine a presidential administration screwing up key challenges as badly as these guys?

To quote Joe Biden (in another context), No.

  • No imagination required. It’s been done.

    What I have difficult imagining are voters who can ignore the evidence of the last 6-plus years and declare that we need a “businessman turned governor” in the White House. Or that we need another “hero of 9/11” in charge.

  • Actually, they “didn’t” screw up their key challenges. They’ve successfully raped the national treasury, lined the pockets of their supporters, demolished the concept of representative democracy ( extremely bad for business, you know), and established both the ultimate data-mining behemoth (spying on everything that Americans do) and a criminal justice system that’s defined as “shielding the CRIMINALS from JUSTICE. Add to that the embedment of neoconservative quislings into the career civil-service layer of every federal agency. Given this, I cannot agree that they’ve “screwed up.” In essence—they’ve gained a great victory….

  • I just finished the Times article before coming here, and it struck me as yet another example of the danger of always believing you’re right without letting the facts guide your decisions. Contrary views were ignored. Deficiencies in policies and realities on the ground were rationalized away. When course corrections were made, they were too little, too late. What is now sold as steadfastness is really arrogance based on ignorance and leading to greater ignorance. And sure as the sun rises in the east, Rice will eventually come out and say “no one could have predicted this situation.”

    Listen to how often Bush uses the phrase “I believe” or some derivative. This is faith-based “leadership.” Bush decides to believe something, then because he has faith in his beliefs, he needs no more information. He just needs the conviction of his beliefs. Contrary views cannot be considered because his beliefs, founded on nothing empirical, cannot be defended. And since he can’t be wrong, we get the denial and nonsense justifications that have become the hallmark of this administration.

    We’d do better to consult the Oracle of Delphi than to follow an ignorant, arrogant bunch of true believers into their world of self-induced fantasy.

  • How is it possible that Bush managed to bungle two wars so thoroughly?

    Because to him war is just a board game he got bored with.

  • [C]an anyone even imagine a presidential administration screwing up key challenges as badly as these guys?
    Yes. It was clear from the start that Junior wasn’t up to the task. Paul Krugman warned us time and time again in the lead up to the 2000 vote. It was a given that they would fail. All that was left to determine was the mode.

  • Because two is all we’ve fought with him in charge?

    Cheyney’s hard at work trying to make Iran #3. I’m sure it’ll turn out at least as well as the other two.

    Actually it is a bit unfair to say that Bush has lost every war he’s fought. He’s been quite successful in battling to destroy the constitution and the middle class.

  • There’s an interesting piece in the Boston Globe today about how the U.S. first courted help from tribal leaders and then, at least in the case of Mujahid, tossed him in Guatanamo after becoming “unruly.” So, the administration is using Gitmo as a way to deal with politics as opposed to terrorism. I believe this works within the main reason for why this administration is so horribly incompetent. They politicize everything. And then they have a real penchant for using the wrong tool to try and achieve their goals.

  • hmmm were these wars? Did we declare war on someone and I missed it?

    I thought that the “mission” in Afghanistan was accomplished…afterall didn’t they get that OIL pipeline through?

    Iraq mission isn’t complete yet, because they have not yet FULLY secured the OIL rights there for the OIL companies. But they are trying.

    And the next mission is, of course, Iran OIL. The big question (and maybe an even bigger fear) is how they will justify this one…

  • I think one can see these wars as bungled if the parameters of the reasons for war don’t include global power as a goal.

    The vehicle in this case is oil – pipeline through Afghanistan, control (to some level) of one of the largest oil reserves in the world (Iraq), and keeping the dollar versus euro as the primary currency exchange are frames that usually don’t appear in the MSM when dissecting this administration’s actions.

    The verdict is still out whether any of these aspirations come to fruition since Iraq, the world, and events don’t seem to be cooperating as expected.

    With power as the prime framing point, all the administration’s actions fall into place in a more or less consistent manner.

    Keeing the “power through oil” filter in place also affects how the events of 9/11 (pre and post as well) are viewed.

    Seen in that context the wars take on an entirely different significance when trying to determine whether they have been bungled or not.

    Also, future events are still very much in jeopardy, in terms of our democracy, since much of the mechanisms have been put in place for implementing draconian measures toward the goal of power.

    So, only time will tell whether we see this administration’s actions as “bungled” or effective.

  • He botched 2, because he pulled resources from a justified war to fight the war he desired. Rummy told us, “You go to war with the army you have – Not the army you wish you had.” Where the regime failed is in going to war with an enemy they wanted, not they enemy we had.

    Along the way, they united and rallied enemies while dividing and alienating allies. You don’t have to be a tactical genius to see the failure of such a scheme.

  • “can anyone even imagine a presidential administration screwing up key challenges as badly as these guys?” – Mr. CB

    Not wishing to sound smart alecky but, absolutely. Harkening back to your post the other day which lead many to comment on the lineage of criminality, incompetence and inadequacy that genetically defines the Bush family heritage:

    http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/12480.html

    …there was little doubt that Shruby was going to be anything other than an unmitigated disaster. As a ex-pat native Texan who’s maintained ties and interest in the state, I’ve been aware all along that Shruby was a poseur extraordinaire who had his path paved every step of the way by Daddy and friends of Daddy. I was appalled to see the religious fervor with which RepubCo glommed onto The Shrub in late ’98 and ’99 as he was told that he could be the anointed one if he read the rule book, followed instruction and stayed the hell out of the way when there was dirty work to be done.

    And then Rasputin, “Mad Dick”, Cheney, with all of his connections to vast past f’up’s, appointed himself as overseer and mentor to the young retarded prince and the die was cast. There are plenty out there who can do history better than I can, but was there any serious question that whatever these guys touched would turn to shit??? No. Never in my mind.

    And it wasn’t too many days that went by, after 9/11, before I was thinking without any doubt, that evil this way walked.

    George W. Bush was a walking, talking, barely thinking scam waiting to be perpetrated on this county and the world. I couldn’t have foretold the details but that it would be bad was never in doubt. The agenda was in place. Shruby was the vehicle. The results are before us.

  • “We’re tough, we’re determined, we’re relentless.”

    He’s equally as eloquent as Winston Churchill. I can see why he thinks they’re the same.

  • As defense secretary, Donald H. Rumsfeld claimed credit for toppling the Taliban with light, fast forces.

    “Transformation,” the hawk/neocon policy of revamping our military organization and weapons systems to refocus on capabilities of this kind, has been too little discussed, and vastly overrated. Against an enemy like the Taliban, we probably should consider whether we could have toppled them just as, or almost as, quickly by relying heavily on airpower, elite infantry, and pre-transformation weapons systems, a technique pioneered by the Germans 70 years ago in WWII, actually, without all the time-and-money-investment in “transformation.”

  • Well, I really think that people will be de-constructing and dissecting these two engagements for decades, and I think that over time, the process will not mellow the harshness of the current criticism – if anything, I think it will sharpen considerably.

    How could it be so bad? I think you have to start at the beginning, which was even before Bush was “elected,” when he was being influenced and shaped by those in PNAC, who wanted – and eventually got – someone in the WH who could be easily led to carrying out what they saw as their mission. Instrumental in that plan was Dick Cheney choosing himself as Bush’s VP. Not only was Cheney the force behind moving that agenda forward, he also saw Bush’s role as Commander in Chief as a way to cement the role of the president as the unitary executive, thus cutting out the oversight and transparency that would have stifled their efforts. Add a compliant and rubber-stamp Congress to the mix, and you have the whole thing in the hands of people who not only listen to no one except those who tell them what they want to hear, but who also answer to no one.

    And, really, they are still not answering to anyone, and they are still getting their way in the Congress. So the mistakes not only continue, but those mistakes left unaddressed are only compounded.

    Sadly, they aren’t deviating from their course one iota; in fact, I see them as being more determined than ever, knowing they have limited time in power in which to work their agenda. They aren’t going to back down or give up or admit failure. Every day, there is someone out there talking about the “successes,” and it’s all designed to keep the precious few supporters clingng to the plan, and keep the Democratic Congress feeling enough doubt and fear that they are afraid to act.

    There’s plenty of time for the administration to make things even worse, and I fear that that is exactly what will happen.

  • Because Bush went onto attempting “nation-building” after slamming the concept, any position or policy–supported or opposed–by the Republican candidate for president in November of 2008 is suspect. The TV ads of Bush “saying one thing and doing another” would be devastating to fat-headed Guiliani, flip-flopping Romney, or any Republican who thinks that he can pander for votes without consequences. Simply put: Can the American people trust a Republican to go against the insurance companies or the drug manufacturers and do something about the health care crisis?

  • Hi Anne. Maybe it falls to the level of a quibble, but I actually think the situation in the admin pre-9/11 is not as you describe. The neocons and/or PNACers as you describe them were actually the Cheney faction, which stood in opposition to the realists like Scowcroft and Powell who were part of Dimbulb’s legacy from Daddy. Cheney was rapidly maneuvering from the get to put his people in all the choke points and leave the more traditional Republican foreign policy people neutered. There are many indications that while Iraq was the PNAC obsession from well before the sElection, they were actually gearing up China to be the boogeyman they needed in order to create the atmosphere for the authoritarian changes they wanted to implement. Then 9/11 came along and allowed the Cheneyists to chop everyone else off at the knees.

    That 9/11 happened because they were too focused on state actors (China! Iraq! Whoever!) rather than terrorists is one interpretation. If so, it still provided them with what they needed and they certainly crammed it back into the state-actors box as soon as they could, where they’re still trying to keep it. (Because going after states is so much more convenient, and still involves astronomical defense spending). One might suspect, as many do, that the news of “Bin Laden Still Determined to Strike in U.S” may have struck some as an intriguing alternative to the slower and more conventional idea of building up China to take the place of the USSR in the new war footing that was going to be developed. It certainly would have presented them with some tempting if very wicked bad and absolutely unthinkable thoughts, if you believe–as I think is amply evident–that they were looking for something to be belicose about from the get go, as a matter of governing philosophy. Thoughts such as, “Well, it might just be the wake-up call this nation needs.”

    Clearly unthinkable thoughts. Though it has to be admitted that a surprising number of serious-thinky type thinksters are having no trouble putting the exact same thought right out there in electrons and print this summer.

  • How could the malAdmin screw up that badly? Accidentally on purpose.

    “At critical moments in the fight for Afghanistan, the Bush administration diverted scarce intelligence and reconstruction resources to Iraq,[…]” — NYT

    Not only were those resources diverted, they were diverted *at critical moments*. As soon as something looked like it might succeed, the rug was pulled from under it. Bin Laden was almost caught, so we pulled out to prevent it. The ambassador was being effective in Kabul, so he got transferred to Baghdad. Etc, etc, etc. We didn’t want Afghanistan *really* fixed, for good. Afghanistan in semi-chaos and under no real control of anyone is just fine, hence the piecemealing different bits of administration to different countries. It’s easier to hide your misdeeds in a chaos than it is in an orderly situation.

    And then off to Operation Iraqi Liberation, aka OIL…

  • It was never their point or purpose to “help” anyone, only to take. The WH used Afghanistan to score political points as tough on terorism but there was no money to be made there so they were no longer of any “use”. It was always, “we’ll deal with them later”.
    Huge profits were waiting in Iraq but then came the complications of a civil war which the WH thought they could prevent. Suddenly they were bogged down in Iraq by an overwhelming atmosphere of incompetence that made everything they touched worse. And always it was, “we’ll deal with them later” as Afghanistan eroded into the badlands, ruled again by tribal leaders because we has all but abandoned it.

    “All we wanted were the oil rights and then we’d get back to dealing with Afghanistan, but things just got away from us”. Seems a plausible explanation from an incompetent administrator. And now they want to go after Iran…no wonder Bush wanted a war czar

  • How is it possible that Bush managed to bungle two wars so thoroughly?

    Simple. Little Georgie has a lifetime of experience, starting with bungling his yell when he was slapped on the butt when he popped out of momma. There is nothing the man has touched in every day of every year since that he didn’t fuck up beyond all recognition (FUBAR). The difference now is the stuff he’s screwing up is so big the people who have a lifetime’s experience of gluing Humpty-Dumpty back together again can’t do it anymore.

    Why do you think the Right went for him? Ever hear of the term “useful idiot”?? Put Georgie in the front office and leave Dickhead in the shadows to engineer the coup d’ etat.

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