Sunday Discussion Group

July’s almost over, Congress starts a five-week summer break tomorrow, and Bush seems to have some kind of moral objection to working in the month of August, so let’s take on a slightly less serious discussion-group topic today, shall we?

National Review’s John J. Miller recently published what he labeled the “50 greatest conservative rock songs.” There are some odd choices in there, but it got me thinking, what about the greatest progressive rock songs?

This shouldn’t be too hard; conservatives have shunned rock music for decades. Part of the point of rock is to shake up the status quo, to challenge institutions, and to call for change. In a nutshell, rock music is, or at least is supposed to be, the opposite of conservative ideology.

If this is our genre, then there should be plenty of liberal rock songs to choose from. “A Change Is Gonna Come” by Sam Cooke is a personal favorite, and off the top of my head, Springsteen’s “Born in the USA,” “Open Letter (To A Landlord)” by Living Colour, “The Way It Is” by Bruce Hornsby, and Tracy Chapman’s “Talkin’ Bout a Revolution” definitely deal with progressive issues.

We’re a creative bunch; what are your ideas for a list for our side of the aisle?

(If you’re interested I’ve included the top 10 from Miller’s conservative list after the jump, several of which don’t strike me as conservative at all.)

1. “Won’t Get Fooled Again,” by The Who
The conservative movement is full of disillusioned revolutionaries; this could be their theme song, an oath that swears off naïve idealism once and for all. “There’s nothing in the streets / Looks any different to me / And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye. . . . Meet the new boss / Same as the old boss.” The instantly recognizable synthesizer intro, Pete Townshend’s ringing guitar, Keith Moon’s pounding drums, and Roger Daltrey’s wailing vocals make this one of the most explosive rock anthems ever recorded — the best number by a big band, and a classic for conservatives.

2. “Taxman,” by The Beatles
A George Harrison masterpiece with a famous guitar riff (which was actually played by Paul McCartney): “If you drive a car, I’ll tax the street / If you try to sit, I’ll tax your seat / If you get too cold, I’ll tax the heat / If you take a walk, I’ll tax your feet.” The song closes with a humorous jab at death taxes: “Now my advice for those who die / Declare the pennies on your eyes.”

3. “Sympathy for the Devil,” by The Rolling Stones
Don’t be misled by the title; this song is The Screwtape Letters of rock. The devil is a tempter who leans hard on moral relativism — he will try to make you think that “every cop is a criminal / And all the sinners saints.” What’s more, he is the sinister inspiration for the cruelties of Bolshevism: “I stuck around St. Petersburg / When I saw it was a time for a change / Killed the czar and his ministers / Anastasia screamed in vain.”

4. “Sweet Home Alabama,” by Lynyrd Skynyrd
A tribute to the region of America that liberals love to loathe, taking a shot at Neil Young’s Canadian arrogance along the way: “A Southern man don’t need him around anyhow.”

5. “Wouldn’t It Be Nice,” by The Beach Boys
Pro-abstinence and pro-marriage: “Maybe if we think and wish and hope and pray it might come true / Baby then there wouldn’t be a single thing we couldn’t do / We could be married / And then we’d be happy.”

6. “Gloria,” by U2
Just because a rock song is about faith doesn’t mean that it’s conservative. But what about a rock song that’s about faith and whose chorus is in Latin? That’s beautifully reactionary: “Gloria / In te domine / Gloria / Exultate.”

7. “Revolution,” by The Beatles
“You say you want a revolution / Well you know / We all want to change the world . . . Don’t you know you can count me out?” What’s more, Communism isn’t even cool: “If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao / You ain’t going to make it with anyone anyhow.” (Someone tell the Che Guevara crowd.)

8. “Bodies,” by The Sex Pistols
Violent and vulgar, but also a searing anti-abortion anthem by the quintessential punk band: “It’s not an animal / It’s an abortion.”

9. “Don’t Tread on Me,” by Metallica
A head-banging tribute to the doctrine of peace through strength, written in response to the first Gulf War: “So be it / Threaten no more / To secure peace is to prepare for war.”

10. “20th Century Man,” by The Kinks
“You keep all your smart modern writers / Give me William Shakespeare / You keep all your smart modern painters / I’ll take Rembrandt, Titian, da Vinci, and Gainsborough. . . . I was born in a welfare state / Ruled by bureaucracy / Controlled by civil servants / And people dressed in grey / Got no privacy got no liberty / ‘Cause the 20th-century people / Took it all away from me.”

Of these, maybe I could see “Sweet Home Alabama” as a vaguely conservative anthem, but “Sympathy for the Devil”? Seriously? Since when is “all sinners are saints” a conservative idea?

For that matter, if the right has to look to U2, The Who, The Stones, and The Beatles for conservative lyrics, doesn’t this kind of prove my point about the inherent liberalism of the genre?

Let’s start with the obscure. Released only in UK (but now on an Elektra collection on CD here), the rock version of Phil Och’s “I Ain’t Marchin’ Anymore” done by Phil himself.

  • Imagine by John Lennon, that should be in the top 5 or 10.

    I could list more but I don’t have much time. But conservatives can’t even hold a candle to us in this area.

  • Here’s mine alphabetically (should help those who, like me, hurt my eyes looking). BTW, the list could easily have been made grossly large by including all the Folk music (most of which wasn’t rock) of the racial-equality, anti-Vietnam and Berkeley “Free Speech” era, many of which I used to perform with The Highgraders, a group in San Francisco from the folk and folk-rock era.

    A Hard Rain’s A Gonna Fall – Dylan
    Almost Cut My Hair – David Crosby (with CSNY)
    American Skin–41 Shots – Bruce Springsteen
    Army Dreamers – Bush
    At Seventeen – Janis Ian
    Attack of the Peacekeepers – Biafra
    Between the Wars – Bragg
    Bold Marauder – Farina
    Bravery of Being Out Of Range – Waters
    Bullet In Your Head – Rage
    Bullet the Blue Sky – U2
    Call It Democracy – Cockburn
    Cops of the World – Phil Ochs
    Covert Battalions – Bragg
    Don’t Let the Bastards – Kristoferson
    Don’t Wanna Be a Soldier – Lennon
    Feel Like I’m Fixin’ To Die Rag – Country Joe and the Fish-
    Fixin To Die Rag – McDonald
    Flowers of Guatemala – REM
    Fortunate Son – Fogarty
    Get Together – Youngbloods
    Get Up, Stand Up – Bob Marley
    Give Peace a Chance – John Lennon
    God Save the Queen (The Fascist Regime) – Sex Pistols
    Heaven is Falling – Bad Religion
    How Long – Brown
    I Ain’t Marching Anymore – Ochs
    Imagine – Lennon
    Little Boxes – Malvina Reynolds
    Lives in the Balance – Brown
    Long Time Gone” – David Crosby (with CSN)
    Lucky Man – Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
    Masters of War – Dylan
    Mothers, Daughters, Wives – Small
    New World Hawdah – Johnson
    Oliver’s Army – Costello
    One Tin Soldier – Coven
    Political Science – Newman
    Rockin in the Free World – Neil Young
    Roll With It – DiFranco
    Rumours of War – Bragg
    Sam Stone – Prine
    San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair) – Scott McKenzie
    Send in the Marines – Lehrer
    Shipbuilding – Costello
    Short Memory – Midnight Oil
    Sky Pilot – Eric Burdon
    Son Came Home Today – Bogle
    Southhampton Dock – Waters
    Strangest Dream – McMurdy
    Street Fighting Man – Strolling Bones
    The Call Up – Clash
    The Flower Children- Marcia Strassman
    The Great Mandala – Yarrow
    The Tide is Turning – Waters
    Times They Are A Changin’ – Dylan
    U.S. Forces – Midnight Oil
    Universal Soldier – Marie
    Us and Them – Waters
    Vigilante Man – Woody Guthrie
    Waltzing Matilda – Bogle
    War – Barrett Strong
    When the Music’s Over and Five to One – Doors
    When the Ship Comes In – Dylan
    With God on Our Side – Dylan
    Woman Is The N-Word Of The World – John Lennon
    Work for Peace – Gil Scott Heron
    Working Class Hero – Lennon
    Youngstown – Springsteen

  • Animals, the entire album, by pink floyd.
    Deja Vu, the entire album by CSN&Y.
    Low Spark of High Heeled Boys, the entire album by Traffic
    John Brown went off to War, Dylan
    on and on and on and on……..

    Finally, none on the list of 10 “conservative” songs has ever represented conservatism to me. If anything, individualism exudes from these titles, and conservatism has no monopoly on such a self-perceived construct. Just another attempt to rewrite history. At this rate, our dearly beloved neocon powermongering set are on par with St. Thomas Aquainas whose job it was to rewrite the Greco-Roman manuscripts that did not conform to Church canon at the time. His project failed, just as I suspect the “we have now found WMDs in Iraq” neocon canards will also, whether in regard to current conflagration in the Middle East or the current effort to coop the rock-n-roll world. -Kevo

  • i suppose in part it depends on whether you mean songs that express, in a positive way, progressivism or whether we can include as “progressive” songs those whose purpose is to slam the other side. There are literally entire albums, nearly entire artist catalogs that do the latter (although in that category I’d have to put Neil Young’s “Keep on Rockin in the Free World” towards the top – but he is a great example of an artist who has done literally dozens of such songs).

  • that list was hilarious—so wrong on so many levels. they couldn’t have missed so much if they tried e.g., about Revolution he selectively quoted You say you want a revolution / Well you know / We all want to change the world . . . Don’t you know you can count me out?

    and i’m all what happened to the part about the dreaded evolution and the part about You say you’ll change the constitution / Well, you know / We all want to change your head / You tell me it’s the institution / Well, you know / You better free you mind instead…

    John Lydon (Bodies) already dissed his choice in the Guardian about a month back, about which he said ‘If you construe that as being anti-abortion, you’re a silly cunt.’

    i nominate Rage Against the Machine’s ‘Kil’ and Leonard Cohen’s ‘Democracy.’

    i’m actually looking forward to their list of greatest conservative movies. 🙂

  • My feelings about this silly conservative list here. But as to great progressive songs? Some of my choices, in no particular order:

    “If 6 Was 9” – Jimi Hendrix
    “Straw Man” – Lou Reed
    “Soup Is Good Food” – The Dead Kennedys (the only punk song I’ve ever heard taking on layoffs!)
    “For What It’s Worth” – Buffalo Springfield
    “La Femme Fetal” – Digable Planets (the only pro-choice rap song I’ve ever heard)
    “The Big Stick” – The Minutemen
    “Ether” – Gang Of Four
    “Fortunate Son” – Creedence Clearwater Revival
    “Inner City Blues” – Marvin Gaye
    “Do the Dugs Dig?” – The Goats
    “The People Who Grinned Themselves To Death” – The Housemartins (awesome lyrics – “and even when their kids were starving, they all thought the Queen was charming”)
    “Stop the Violence” – Boogie Down Productions
    “Fight the Power” – Public Enemy
    “Exhuming McCarthy” – REM
    “Burning, Too” – Fugazi (environmentalist punk – “the world is not a facility, it is our responsibility, to use our ability to keep ths place alive”)
    “Why” – Bronski Beat (just about the best anti-homophobe song I’ve ever heard)
    “San Francisco” – Scott McKenzie
    “War” – Edwin Starr
    “Funky President” – James Brown
    “Chocolate City” – Parliament
    “Youth Against Fascism” – Sonic Youth
    “Diamonds Of Sierra Leone” – Kanye West
    “Sky Of Bones” – Alice Donut (great song about fighting AIDS)
    “Master and Servant” – Depeche Mode
    “Party Up” – Prince
    “My My Metrocard” – Le Tigre (I like any song that calls Giuliani “a fuckin’ jerk”)
    “English Civil War” – The Clash
    “Funeral Pyre” – The Jam
    “Sun City” – Artists United Against Apartheid
    “Wake Up” – Rage Against the Machine
    “No Master Plan No Master Race” – 3rd Bass
    “Whitey’s On the Moon” – Gil Scott-Heron
    “Makeshift Patriot” – Sage Francis
    “Les Ypres-Sound” – Stereolab
    “Nuclear War” – Yo La Tengo
    “Let’s Have a War” – Fear
    “A Simple Desultory Philippic” – Simon & Garfunkel (“I’ve been Ayn Randed and nearly branded a Communist ’cause I’m left-handed”)

  • Darkness and Calm Like A Bomb by Rage Against the Machine spring to mind for me.

    And the band Bad Religion…well, pretty much anything by them. Their entire career has been about political and social activism. Off the top of my head, Leaders and Followers and The Handshake seem like good choices.

  • Walk Tall, Jackie Brown, Peaceful World, Empty Hands and so many more by John Mellencamp

  • Speaking of Country, there’s “Takin’ My Country Back”, as good a slam at the Bush Crime Family as anything I’ve heard. And it’s in a language the Regal Moron, supposedly, understands. Hear it here

  • (Correction)

    Great lists, but what about “American Woman” by The Guess Who?

  • (I apologize in advance for the fact that I will think of these randomly all day long. . . )

    Ignoreland by REM. (“The bastards stole the power from the victims of the Us v Them years, wrecking all things virtuous and true. . .”)

  • What do expect from a group of folks that never really listened to the lyrics from “Born in the USA” and then turned it into “their” anthem? I thought it was the funniest thing ever.

    That Con Rock list showed how cognitive disonent these guys are.

    As someone pointed out, where’s the nuttiest musical Con chickenhawk of them all, Ted Nugent, on the Con Rock list? Was “Cat Scratch Fever” or “Wang dang Sweet poontang” not Conservative enough for them?

    As for “progressive” rock
    Anything by the Clash
    Killing in the Name of -Rage Against the Machine

    As for Sympathy for the Devil, they really stretched on that one there. I guess they didn’t want to mention the lyrics which immediately followed the anti commie lines…

    “I rode a tank
    Held a generals rank
    When the blitzkrieg raged
    And the bodies stank
    Pleased to meet you
    Hope you guess my name, oh yeah
    Ah, whats puzzling you
    Is the nature of my game, oh yeah
    I watched with glee
    While your kings and queens
    Fought for ten decades
    For the gods they made
    I shouted out,
    Who killed the kennedys?
    When after all
    It was you and me
    Let me please introduce myself
    Im a man of wealth and taste”

  • You include Living Colour but not “Cult of Personality?”

    Dude.

    Look into my eyes, what do you see?
    Cult of Personality
    I know your anger, I know your dreams
    I’ve been everything you want to be
    I’m the Cult of Personality
    Like Mussolini and Kennedy
    I’m the Cult of Personality

    Neon lights, A Nobel Price
    The mirror speaks, the reflection lies
    You don’t have to follow me
    Only you can set me free
    I sell the things you need to be
    I’m the smiling face on your T.V.
    I’m the Cult of Personality
    I exploit you still you love me

    I tell you one and one makes three
    I’m the Cult of Personality
    Like Joseph Stalin and Gandhi
    I’m the Cult of Personality

    Neon lights a Nobel Prize
    A leader speaks, that leader dies
    You don’t have to follow me
    Only you can set you free

    You gave me fortune
    You gave me fame
    You me power in your God’s name
    I’m every person you need to be
    I’m the Cult of Personality

  • Sleater-Kinney, “Far Away”. It’s about experiencing 9/11 from across the country, and a simple wish not to have one’s family harmed by forces that are vast and impersonal

    But it also blows away the Right’s myth of that awful day:

    “And the president hides/while working men rush in/and give their lives/I look to the sky/and ask it not to rain/on my family tonight.”

  • The Impressions and Curtis Mayfield had a whole slew of ’em (e.g., We’re A Winner, Move On Up).

    Matthew Sweet’s Holy War, though released 12-14 years ago, is especially resonant these days.

    Think (It Ain’t Illegal Yet) by Funkadelic. ‘Nuff said.

    But the one I’d like to nominate is Hard Times In the Land of Plenty, by Omar and the Howlers– spot-on populist message plus it rocks like crazy.

  • ok, i finally thought of one of my fave progressive songs that is not merely a “bash the right” song: “Hammer and a Nail,” by the Indigo Girls (who actually have a few contenders).

    My life is part of the global life
    I’d found myself becoming more immobile
    When I’d think a little girl in the world
    Can’t do anything
    A distant nation my community
    And a street person my responsibility
    If I have a care in the world
    I have a gift to bring . . .

    . . . I gotta get out of bed
    Get a hammer and a nail
    Learn how to use my hands
    Not just my head
    I’ll think myself in a jail
    Now I know a refuge never grows
    From a chin in a hand
    And a thoughtful pose
    Gotta tend the earth
    If you want a rose

    Someone might have played this around all of the Bushies just after Katrina. Perhaps they would have gotten the hint? nawwww.

  • Many great songs listed above. Ed and HonestPartisian have done yeoman’s work. I didn’t see The Jefferson Airplane’s Volunteers of America on any of the lists..

    Look what’s happening out in the streets
    Got a revolution Got to revolution
    Hey I’m dancing down the streets
    Got a revolution Got to revolution
    Ain’t it amazing all the people I meet
    Got a revolution Got to revolution
    One generation got old
    One generation got soul
    This generation got no destination to hold
    Pick up the cry
    Hey now it’s time for you and me
    Got a revolution Got to revolution
    Come on now we’re marching to the sea
    Got a revolution Got to revolution
    Who will take it from you
    We will and who are we
    We are volunteers of America

    Nor did I see We Can be Together

    We can be together
    Ah you and me
    We should be together
    We are all outlaws in the eyes of america
    In order to survive we steal cheat lie forge fred hide and deal
    We are obscene lawless hideous dangerous dirty violent and young
    But we should be together
    Come on all you people standing around
    Our lifes too fine to let it die and
    We can be together
    All your private property is
    Target for your enemy
    And your enemy is
    We
    We are forces of chaos and anarchy
    Everything they say we are we are
    And we are very
    Proud of ourselves
    Up against the wall
    Up against the wall fred (motherfucker)
    Tear down the walls
    Tear down the walls
    Come on now together
    Get it on together
    Everybody together
    We should be together
    We should be together my friends
    We can be together
    We will be
    We must begin here and now
    A new continent of earth and fire
    Come on now gettin higher and higher
    Tear down the walls
    Tear down the walls
    Tear down the walls
    Wont you try

    Both of these are great because they should scare the crap out of the smugly comfortable and rich.

  • This shouldn’t be too hard; conservatives have shunned rock music for decades. Part of the point of rock is to shake up the status quo, to challenge institutions, and to call for change. In a nutshell, rock music is, or at least is supposed to be, the opposite of conservative ideology.

    Yeah, all that, but it’s also because they are a bunch of squares.

    It drives the conservatives bonkers that the people have rightly pegged them on this one, so now they feel crazy insecure about it, and they write stupid lists like this one, and they tell themselves that the obvious sarcasm in a song like “Revolution” by the Beatles is something different than what it is.

  • Double Nickels on the Dime — The Minutemen (the whole album) also “Joe McCarthy’s Ghost” and “Paranoid Time”

    “When Not Being Stupid Is Not Enough” –Built to Spill/Caustic Resin

    “Youth Against Fascism” — Sonic Youth

    “Fight the Power” and “Party for Your Right to Fight” — Public Enemy

  • I realize punk is not everyone’s cup of tea, but I recommend the entire Dead Kennedys catalog, especially the CD “Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables,” which contains many of their classics. A song not found on that record called “We’ve Got A Bigger Problem Now” about Reagan is well worth a listen. The band Bad Religion does a number of interesting songs about the tendency of Americans to get distracted by pop culture, electronic toys and so on.

    And one non-punk recommendation: The song “Heartland” by The The, a scathing indictment of government policies that redirect money and resources to the already rich, was written about Great Britain under Thatcher but could just as easily be about the U.S. today.

  • First: this was evil. Of course I absolutely had to participate, and of course I’ve been at this list for two hours, and of course as soon as I hit “post,” I’ll see a bunch of songs I missed. Damn you, Carpetbagger!

    Second, Miller’s list is largely ridiculous. I’ve been in a few discussions about it before, and I have to say some of these are utterly stunning. “Won’t Get Fooled Again?” Really? The song is pro-revolution but anti-authoritarian. He wants to overthrow the old boss without creating a new boss. I’d hardly call that a conservative notion. And “Revolution” is a peacenik song; does Miller really want to go there? Further down the list there are some even more absurd choices. It’s a terrible list.

    Third, as for our list, I’ve included a couple hip-hop tracks because, well, there’s some good stuff there. And I’ve tried as much as possible not to overrun my list with Springsteen and Pink Floyd. Anyway, this is a decent list of fifty songs. (Well, War is nine songs counted as one, but you get the idea.) The order is just alphabetical by artist (using first names, as iTunes would have it).

    Aesop Rock – 9-5ers Anthem
    Ani Difranco – Lost Woman Song, 32 Flavors
    Ben Harper – How Many Miles Must We March
    Bob Dylan – The Times They Are A-Changin’, Maggie’s Farm
    Bob Marley – I Shot the Sheriff, Get Up Stand Up
    Bruce Springsteen – The Ghost of Tom Joad, My Hometown, Born in the USA
    Buddy Guy – One Room Country Shack
    The Clash – White Riot (one of the most misunderstood songs ever)
    CCR – Fortunate Son
    CSNY – Wooden Ships, Ohio
    Dave Clark Five – 5 O’Clock World
    David Bowie – Working Class Hero
    Edwin Starr – War
    Elvis Costello – What’s So Funny ‘Bout Peace Love and Understanding?
    The Grateful Dead – Cumberland Blues
    Jefferson Airplane – Volunteers
    Jimmy Cliff – The Harder They Come
    John Lennon – Imagine (and pretty much everything else)
    Johnny Cash – Man in Black
    Led Zeppelin – When the Levee Breaks (Who’d have guessed this would be applicable?)
    Lou Reed – Dirty Blvd.
    Merle Haggard – Workin’ Man Blues
    Neil Young – After the Goldrush
    No Doubt – Just a Girl (underrated song from an overrated band)
    Outkast – Gasoline Dreams
    Pete Seeger – Turn! Turn! Turn!
    Pink Floyd – Pigs (Three Different Ones), Sheep, Us and Them, On the Turning Away
    Public Enemy – Black Steel
    REM – New Test Leper
    Radiohead – Karma Police, Electioneering
    Sly and the Family Stone – Everyday People
    Sonny Curtis – I Fought the Law (conservative list overlap)
    Tom Waits – Step Right Up
    Tupac – Changes
    The Turtles – Eve of Destruction
    U2 – The entire album War, Bullet the Blue Sky
    The Who – Baba O’Riley, Won’t Get Fooled Again (HA!)

  • Big Money, Rush
    Big money pulls a million strings
    Big money holds the prize
    Big money weaves a mighty web
    Big money draws the flies

    Territories, Rush
    Better the pride that resides
    In a citizen of the world
    Than the pride that divides
    When a colorful rag is unfurled

    Tax Free, Joni Mitchell
    Lord, there’s danger in this land
    You get witch-hunts and wars
    When church and state hold hands
    F*** it!
    Tonight I’m going dancing, with the drag queens and the punks
    Big beat deliver me from this sanctimonious skunk
    We’re no flaming angels, and he’s not heaven sent
    How can he speak for the Prince of Peace when he’s hawk-right militant

    3 Great Stimulants, Joni Mitchell
    Last night I dreamed I saw the planet flicker
    Great forests fell like buffalo, everything got sicker
    And to the bitter end, big business bickered
    And they call for the three great stimulants
    Of the exhausted ones
    Artifice, brutality and innocence

    Fiction, Joni Mitchell
    Fiction of destroyers, Fiction of preservers
    Fiction of peacemakers and shit disturbers
    (Fiction of the) moralist, (Fiction of the) nihilist
    (Fiction of the) innovator and the stylist
    (Fiction of the) killjoy, (Fiction of the) charmer
    (Fiction of the) clay feet and the shining armour
    (Fiction of) declaimers, (Fiction of) rebukers
    (Fiction of) the pro and the no nukers
    (Fiction of the) gizmo, (Fiction of the) data
    (Fiction of the) this is this and that is that – ahh!

  • It seems that ‘conservatism’ has no aesthetic qualities or strengths at all, and therefore it has to co-opt works that are not conservative at all in order to claim any artistic life. It reminds me of the way the Religious Right repeatedly appropriates trademarked logos from corporations and “Christianizes” them–so “Tommy Hilfiger” becomes “Tommy Hellfighter”; “Coca-Cola: The Real Thing” becomes “Jesus Christ: The Real Thing.” Corporations won’t dare sue trademark infringement, and so the “borrowing” continues.

  • How about Jim Morrison and the Doors “Unknown Soldier”

    Wait until the world is over
    And we’re both a little older
    The Unknown Soldier

    Breakfast is where the news is read
    Television, Children fed
    Unborn living, living dead
    Bullet strikes the helmet’s head

    It’s all over for the Unknown Soldier

    Both a video and single released in 1968 that were banned from any airplay. The video showed Morrison hurling blood after being executed. In performances, Morrison would put a blindfold on, and the band would simulate his execution.

  • It seems that a lot of people missed Son Volt’s last album, “Okemah and the Melody Of Riot” – the song “Six string belief” should’ve been THE song of the blogosphere –

    “Revolution sets the course straight/it was necessary then and it’s necessary now/Corruption in the system/a grassroots insurrection could bring them down.”

    Just a great album – check it out if you’re a fan of the alt-country/rock scene.

    About the Dead Kennedys – man, I loved “IN GOD WE TRUST, INC.” & still have that bad boy on vinyl…guess I’ll have to go dig that up…thanks, Morbo!

  • Here was my response to the Conservative 50:

    First, I’ll bet that quite a number of people on that list wouldn’t think that they belonged on a list of “conservative” rock classics.

    Second, not all the songs are of the rock genre. Last time I looked, “Stand By Your Man”, was a C&W song. And, by the way, where’s the paean to standing by your woman? MIA. Must’ve been out getting a little on the side. But, then that’s the conservative’s way, isn’t it? The little woman stays at home, keeping the home fires burning while the old man is out catting around. Don’t ask and I sure as hell ain’t gonna tell.

    Of course, that’s only if you’re lucky because so many GOPers have been caught with their pants down around little boys and girls. Lots of pedophiles AND adulterers in your party. Somehow a song about those topics didn’t make the list.

    If I had to name my favorite rock song about the GOPers, it would be, “I Fought the Law and the Law Won.” There’s so many, many in your party to whom that would apply.

    The Dukester. Smilin’ Jack. Kenny-Boy. Bernie E. And, on and on and on.

    Oh, yes, a conservative roster to be really, really proud of. Sexual deviates, adulterers and corrupt businessmen.

    “Tastes Great, Less Filling” Advertise the worst qualities of product as if they were virtues.

    I guess that’s where Family Values comes into play.

  • I thought “Don’t Worry, Be Happy” was the conservative song of choice. Much to the distress of its composer.

  • The Beatles were deliberately, almost universally apolitical. The tunes the cons claim are theirs most definitely are. Any progressives who cant see that about Taxman and Revolution are deluding themselves.
    Wont Get Fooled Again – conservative
    Born in the USA was the anthem of the early Reagan years, made me hate Springsteen.
    Sympathy for the Devil is mocking the excesses and hypocracy of the left/communists.
    Sweet Home Alabama, is there any doubt?

    Just because you like a song doesn’t make it progessive/liberal.

    I was a liberal from the 60s on. I remember a sense of betrayal and disappointment at those songs.

    On the other hand, I loved Cat Stevens’ Peace Train’ although he was very late to the bandwagon(and it turns out he was a fraud,lol)

  • XTC – Melt the Guns

    All of the lists are great, and I could add 50 more songs, but XTC is one band I did not see mentioned and Melt the Guns is one of the greats.

  • Michael, Born in the USA was the anthem of Reagan and Dole only because they completely ignored what the song actually said. That’s not Springsteen’s fault. Come on, now. Don’t tell me that a song about a disillusioned Vietnam vet and working man who gets beaten down is a song for conservatives.

    We can argue about the other songs; hell, I agree with you about Taxman. I say Revolution is a peace song; it’s opposing violence, not liberalism. I say Sympathy for the Devil is an apolitical tune sung from the point of view of Evil, bragging over its accomplishments. I say Won’t Get Fooled Again is anti-authoritarian, whatever banner that authority flies under; whether it’s conservative or liberal may depend on the time in which it’s sung. Again, I guess we can argue about all this, though I don’t see how they can be thought of as conservative as such.

    But Born in the USA is a no-brainer liberal tune. Don’t let the fact that Reagan was an idiot change your opinion of it.

  • Michael7843853 G-O in 08!, (# 35) I certainly hope you don’t still feel disappointment in Springsteen because Reagan used Born in the USA. If so, you really need to listen to the lyrics more closely: there is nothing pro-American-establishment in that song. It is a scathing critique of how our government blithely goes to war and then doesn’t give a damn about the people who come home from those battles.

    Since we seem to be takingall genres, not just rock, have I missed it or do we still need to add Marvie Gaye’s “Mercy Mercy Me” to the list?

    And beep52 (# 29) we have to be pretty careful using Rush: they are pretty conservative in the Ayn Rand-objectivist-libertarian stripe. They love Ayn. Turned her “childrens” book into a double-album set. Although the song “Subdivisions” is killer social commentary.

  • Just thought of another one: Cows With Guns (aka “Cows well done”). Sort of an animal liberation song. Written and performed by Dana Lyons, who lives in a garage in Bellingham WA (where I live too).

  • I must confess I never listened to the lyrics of Born in the USA. I didn’t like the jingoistic(I thought) title, didn’t like the sound of it, and damned the song for it’s association with the forces of evil. Bruce took the money didn’t he? Did he raise repeated and total hell about the misuse of his song? If so, I missed it.

    I’m a hard case though…still can’t watch Miracle on Ice because of it’s appropriation by the right. Never would have thought I could hate hockey more,lol.

  • Okay, I’ve done a bit of research (by which I mean I read the Wikipedia entry). Here’s what I’ve learned:

    In particular it is thought or claimed that Reagan specifically mentioned the song, clearly misinterpreted the song, explicitly misappropriated the song, or that the song was played at Reagan campaign rallies. It is also claimed that Mondale tried to appropriate the song in some way. None of these claims are true. Indeed, after the Hammonton speech, Springsteen was never again mentioned in the Reagan campaign. [2] Nor did Mondale’s campaign, en route to a landslide defeat, make any further references to Springsteen of note.

    George Will did, at least partly, misinterpret “Born in the U.S.A.”, which may have led Reagan or those in his staff to do so. On the other hand, it is quite possible Reagan had never heard of this song or any other Springsteen song, and in the Hammonton speech may have just been attempting to ride the popularity of a local star, hardly an uncommon political practice.

    Springsteen refused Chrysler Corporation CEO Lee Iacocca’s request to use “Born in the U.S.A.” in commercials for Chrysler cars, turning down an offer that would have been worth several million dollars. This would certainly seem to be a case of misinterpretation had it happened. Instead, the company used the Kenny Rogers-Nikki Ryder song, “The Pride is Back”.

    So it doesn’t look like he “took the money,” no. That’s good edification for me, too, because I thought it had been a campaign theme song.

  • Not necessarily “rock” but “soul” is a close cousin: Marvin Gaye – “What’s Going On?”

    For a recent one, Neil Young’s “Living in Wartime,” the whole album but particularly the song (whose title escapes me at the moment) about the girl listening to Dylan while her brother graduates from boot camp and marches off to Iraq.

    The “National Anthem” of GIs in Vietnam: Eric Burdon: “We Gotta Get Outta This Place” – unfortunately too timely even now.

    The Byrds: “Turn Turn Turn (To Every Thing There Is A Season)”

    Everything my late friend Phil Ochs ever wrote.

    And for he who can’t figure out what “Born in the USA” is all about, it was only “the anthem for the Reagan Years” when Reagan tried to appropriate it during the 1984 campaign, which led to Springsteen’s first public political statement, in which he said that “if Ronald Reagan thinks this song is for him, he isn’t listening too closely.”

    And a second vote for “Mercy, Mercy Me.”

  • Country Joe and the Fish:

    Yeah, come on all of you, big strong men,
    Uncle Sam needs your help again.
    He’s got himself in a terrible jam
    Way down yonder in Vietnam
    So put down your books and pick up a gun,
    We’re gonna have a whole lotta fun.

    And it’s one, two, three,
    What are we fighting for ?
    Don’t ask me, I don’t give a damn,
    Next stop is Vietnam;
    And it’s five, six, seven,
    Open up the pearly gates,
    Well there ain’t no time to wonder why,
    Whoopee! we’re all gonna die.
    …, etc

  • ok, so it’s immodest, but I’ll nominate the little ditty I wrote for my beleaguered spouse back in 2004 who was quite depressed to find herself suddenly living in a red state. Its called “Blue-to-Red Blues,” and it goes somethin like this:

    i got the blues
    them misunderestimated livin’ in a red state blues
    did so much campaignin’
    i got deficit-sized holes in my shoes
    and all I got for my trouble
    was four more years of dubya
    gives me the livin in a red state blues.

    i got the blues
    watchin Bush discuss his strategery on the news
    raises the cost of my prescriptions
    just thinkin bout the judges he’ll choose
    while Cheney’s slappin him on the back
    our kids are dyin in Iraq
    i got those livin in a red state blues

    yeah one day I’ll have to come out of my room
    but for now I just wanna have a beer
    if my vision just stays blurred
    it wont seem so absurd:
    President Alfred E. Newman, four more years

    i got the blues
    i guess the liberals just ain’t paid enough dues
    gettin shot up in ‘Nam
    ain’t as manly as some prison abuse
    now even Iowa is red
    and all I can do is hang my head
    I got those livin in a red state – Canada sure sounds great –
    livin in such a redneck state blues.

    *blush*
    any nickels you can toss in my guitar case appreciated.

  • I’m thinking that in light of current GOP conduct, I’m thinking that Was Not Was should have made the conservative list:

    “Hello Dad, I’m in jail…”

    -jjf

  • F**k the FCC – Steve Earle
    To Washington – John Mellencamp
    American Idiot – Green Day

  • Okay, how about one of the best selling country artist of all time writing an incredibly progressive song. (one that, in my opinion, defines real freedom as opposed to propaganda)

    Also, there’s another famous southern man’s song:

    “In the Ghetto” by Elvis

    As far as “Sympathy for the Devil” ending up on the list, I hope Mick sues. 😉

    “We Shall Be Free”

    By Garth Brooks

    This ain’t comin’ from no prophet
    Just an ordinary man
    When I close my eyes I see
    The way this world shall be
    When we all walk hand in hand

    When the last child cries for a crust of bread
    When the last man dies for just words that he said
    When there’s shelter over the poorest head
    We shall be free

    When the last thing we notice is the color of skin
    And the first thing we look for is the beauty within
    When the skies and the oceans are clean again
    Then we shall be free

    We shall be free
    We shall be free
    Stand straight, walk proud
    ‘Cause we shall be free
    When we’re free to love anyone we choose
    When this world’s big enough for all different views
    When we all can worship from our own kind of pew
    Then we shall be free
    We shall be free

    We shall be free
    Have a little faith
    Hold out
    ‘Cause we shall be free

    And when money talks for the very last time
    And nobody walks a step behind
    When there’s only one race and that’s mankind
    Then we shall be free

    We shall be free
    We shall be free
    Stand straight, walk proud, have a little faith, hold out
    We shall be free

    We shall be free
    We shall be free
    Stand straight, have a little faith

    We shall be free

  • “Bonzo Goes to Bitburg” by the Ramones
    “The Revolution Starts Now” by Steve Earle
    “Presidential Rag” by Arlo Guthrie
    Just about everything by the Clash

    Of course, the works of Messrs. Dylan, Springsteen and Young have already been cited above.

    And it’s pretty darn scary how relevant the songs of the sixties are right now.

    I’m sure I’ll be thinking of other songs all day long now…

  • This my be a little on the obscure side, but is fits squarely into to the progressive category:

    Woodie Guthrie – Alabama 3 (A3)

    Another psychopath in Iowa
    loading up another round
    While the NRA in Columbine
    hunt Marilyn Manson down
    Powder in the Pentagon
    cruel letters in the mail
    Some KKK white supremicist
    cooking up a dose of race hate

    CHORUS
    Don’t need no country
    Don’t fly no flag
    Cut no slack for the union jack
    Stars and stripes have got me jetlagged

    Some baby in Afganistan
    crying for its’ mama now
    while the BNP scare refugees
    senseless up in Oldham town
    Hypocrites in Downing Street
    pouring petrol on the name
    Satpal cries, asks Paddy
    why do we always get the blame

    CHORUS

    sing a song for the asylum seeker
    for the frightened baby on some foreign beach
    you’d better bang a gong and pray
    they reach a safe harbour

    Some mother in Jakarta
    lays down her weary head
    in some free trade zone compound
    here they work you ’til you’re dead
    Hunger stalks the corridor
    famine and disease
    I seen the multinationals
    walking hand in hand
    with globalising marketeers

    CHORUS

  • Mont D. Law, thanks for reminding me about YouTube. Here is the Airplane doing Voluteers. There is also the Airplane doing Uncle Sam Blues from Woodstock. Although I wouldn’t put it one the top 100 progressive list, it very relevant today.

    The latter song is effectively Hot Tuna and not the Airplane.

    CB, great discussion topic for a lazy July Sunday.

  • Since we are exploring all genres, I have to nominate a song that is, without a doubt, among the most progressive of all time: We Shall Overcome (sorry haven’t figured out how to use italics)

    Pete Seeger gets credit for the copyright.

    This one should be high on the list.

  • #54: to italicize Pete Seeger, type “<i>” then “Pete Seeger”, then “</i>” — i.e. “<i> Pete Seeger </i>”

    You can do the same thing for bold face: “<b> Pete Seeger </b>” produces Pete Seeger.

    And, yes, you can do bold-face italic: “<b> <i>Pete Seeger </i><b>” produces Pete Seeger.

    Strike-through is “<strike> Pete Seeger </strike>” produces Pete Seeger.

  • 52: innominate: This my be a little on the obscure side, but is fits squarely into to the progressive category: Woodie Guthrie – Alabama 3 (A3)

    lol, i was gonna post that but figured it was too obscure.

  • More from XTC, the most under-appreciated band of all time:

    Dear God
    Earn Enough for Us
    Human Alchemy
    In Loving Memory of a Name
    Peter Pumpkinhead
    No Thugs in Our House
    Jason and the Argonauts
    The Loving

    All progressive, all startlingly original in concept, all tuneful, all well-executed. I could go on for quite a while, but if I’ve piqued your interest, build your own list.

  • “The World Belongs to Us” by Informatik. Sorry, not really rock (more Industrial/EBM), but this seems relevant to me.
    _______________________
    Look around
    At the world today
    Our precious home
    Withers in decay
    what once was ours
    is now torn and stained
    we wondered how
    it got this way

    the years will come
    the years will go
    kingdoms rise and fall
    the time has come to take control
    the world belongs to us

    Long ago
    a choice was made
    the few would rule
    the rest obey
    now we are taught
    how to behave
    don’t question why
    and don’t complain

    the world belongs to us…

    now its time
    to demonstrate
    that you and I
    can make history
    tear down the walls
    that separate
    to make us weak
    and keep us afraid

    years will come
    years will go
    kingdoms rise and fall
    the time has to take control
    the world belongs to us

    a single drop of water
    becomes a mighty fall
    people of the earth
    the world belongs to us

  • As a Gen-Xer from the 80s, I have to add:

    “Two Tribes”, Frankie Goes to Hollywood (Bush and Saddam in the ring, that would have been a hoot)

    “99 Luftballoons”, Nena (yeah, I know it’s about the Cold War, but I like it’s commentary on hair-trigger, ‘bomb ’em all’ mentality)

    “Forever Young”, Alphaville (kinda sappy, but my daughter loves the song, so it has the kind of message young people can identify with)

    “Love is the Seventh Wave”, Sting
    (‘All the bloodshed, all the anger
    All the weapons, all the greed
    All the armies, all the missiles
    All the symbols of our fear’)

    The third chorus to “Industrial Disease” by Dire Straits
    (‘Theyre pointing out the enemy to keep you deaf and blind
    They wanna sap your energy, incarcerate your mind’)

    “I Will Follow”, “Sunday Bloody Sunday”, & “Where the Streets Have No Name”, by U2
    (The real battle yet begun
    To claim the victory Jesus won ”)

    “Safety Dance”, Men Without Hats (does it fit here? WHO CARES?? I love that song!!)

  • If we’re dragging out bad 80s, how about the video (more than the song) for Gensis’ “Land of Confusion” with the Ronnie and Maggie puppets and Ronnie accidentally nuking the world? Can we remake it substituting Dumbya?

  • Progressive songs – some with an Aussie slant…

    Revolution Calling – Queensryche

    Got no love for politicians
    Or that crazy scene in D.C.
    It’s just a power mad town
    But the time is ripe for changes
    There’s a growing feeling
    That taking a chance on a new kind of vision is due

    I used to trust the media
    To tell me the truth, tell us the truth
    But now I’ve seen the payoffs
    Everywhere I look
    Who do you trust
    When everyone’s a crook?

    Manic Street Preachers – If You Tolerate This, Your Children Will Be Next
    I think Rage Against the Machine have already been cited.
    Pearl Jam – World Wide Suicide
    Eminem – Mosh
    Rolling Stones – Sweet Neocon
    Midnight Oil – Blue Sky Mine (about the disgraceful conduct of asbestos mine owners in Australia) or U.S. Forces, Beds Are Burning (about the plight of native Australians). Interestingly, Peter Garrett (the lead singer of Midnight Oil) is now walking the walk, and is a Member of Parliament in the Federal Australian House of Representatives.

  • frankly, i found both the conservative and progressive song lists more than faintly ridiculous. (the conservative’s because of their misapprehensions, and the progressive’s because most of the songs are incredibly lame.)

    but for some reason i did think of parliament’s ‘chocolate city’ and was pleased to see it here, along with the was (not was) mention. (don needs to stop fucking around with the rolling stones and all those other people and get his lazy-ass brother back into the studio with him.)

    your pal,
    blake

  • 1. I guess my wife is correct and Pearl Jam is irrelevant, as only one person has mentioned them during the first 63 blogs.

    2. Why would the National Review waste their time compiling a list of conservative rock songs at this point in time? Is there not enough to write about concerning national security, the war in Iraq, the conflict in Lebanon, the national deficit, etc.?

  • Zeitgeist,
    Works for me. And Tony Blair for Maggie Thatcher.

    Pearl Jammin’,
    Because the issues the National Review supports are all going to shit, so they need something to boost morale among their ranks
    (See? The Rolling Stones are conservative, just like us! Happy thoughts. Happy thoughts.”)

    Check out Consolidated’s “Friendly Fascism”

  • Good call on The The, morbo, but I might have gone with The Beat(en) Generation.. “reared on a diet of prejudice and misinformation”

    So many of the other songs I would list are already here, even the damn Manic Street Preachers, who I thought no one else would cite.

    What about Pink Floyd’s “On the Turning Away”?

    Cage- “Grand Ole Party Crash (featuring Jello Biafra)
    Ministry- Houses of the Mole (album) or Rio Grande Blood (album)
    Drive-By Truckers- “Sands of Iwo Jima”

    Those are some of the ones I have yet to see listed.

  • Revolution Calling – Queensryche
    Speak – Queensryche
    2 Minutes to Midnight – Iron Maiden
    The Truth – John Wesley Harding
    We Care a Lot – Faith No More

  • Some great stuff. My additions:

    Hallelujah (Leonard Cohen)
    Love Train (O’Jays)
    I Want to Be Free (Ohio Players)
    They Just Can’t Stop It (The Games People Play) (Spinners)
    Hotel California (Eagles)
    Can I Get A Witness (Marvin Gaye)
    God, Part II, Heartland, Mothers of the Disappeared,
    Staring at the Sun (U2)
    Love Rescue Me (Bob Dylan and Bono)
    North and South of the River (U2 and Christy Moore)
    (I’m a huge U2 fan, so I could do a U2 list a mile long)
    *Lives in the Balance* (album) (Jackson Browne)
    La Cueca Solo (They Dance Alone) (Sting)
    Life by the Drop (Stevie Ray Vaughn)
    Snakes and Ladders, Slouching Toward Bethlehem
    (Joni Mitchell)
    Another Day in Paradise (Phil Collins)
    Fast Car (Tracy Chapman)
    Shaking the Tree (Peter Gabriel, Youssou N’Dour)
    Biko (Peter Gabriel)
    Sorrow, Comfortably Numb (Pink Floyd)
    Respect, Aretha Franklin
    *Songs in the Key of Life*, Stevie Wonder
    Sinnerman, Nina Simone
    What’s the Matter Here, Candy Everybody Wants
    (10,000 Maniacs)
    Luka (Suzanne Vega)
    Prince of Darkness (Indigo Girls)
    You Can’t Always Get What You Want, Paint It Black
    (The Stones)
    Kid, Middle of the Road, and because we can’t leave
    out an Ohio song, My City Was Gone (The Pretenders)
    Eminence Front, The Who
    Philadelphia Freedom, Rocket Man (Elton John)
    The Hurricane (and pretty much everything else he ever wrote)
    (Bob Dylan)
    Love Vigilantes (New Order)
    Nightswimming (REM)
    Constant Craving (k.d. lang)

    Now that I’ve dated myself as a major boomboom geezer, let’s get some more recent stuff in:

    The Whores Hustle and the Hustlers Whore,
    This Mess We’re In (P.J. Harvey)
    Forty Dollars (Greg Dulli, Twilight Singers [and Afghan Whigs],
    who also does a mean cover of “Strange Fruit”)
    The Christians and the Pagans (Dar Williams)
    Scarecrow (Melissa Etheridge)
    The Mercy Seat, There She Goes My Beautiful World,
    O Children (Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds)
    No More Drama (Mary J. Blige)
    Baby in Two (The Pernice Brothers)
    Watching Me (Jill Scott)
    Spies, Trouble, Politik (Coldplay)
    Scooterboys (Indigo Girls)
    Sunny Came Home (Shawn Colvin)
    Tony (Patty Griffin)
    War No More (Wyclef Jean)
    Bomb the World (Michael Franti)
    Everywhere With Helicopter (Guided By Voices)
    Feel Every Beat (Electronic)
    Every Ghetto, Every City (Lauryn Hill)
    Bag Lady (Erykah Badu)

    And finally (at least for this list), the best post-9/11 songs I’ve ever heard:
    *The Rising* (entire album) – Springsteen
    Goodnight America – Mary Chapin Carpenter

    I could go on all night, even with all the other great songs listed, but I’ll leave it there. Thanks for the chance to revisit some favorite songs.

  • XTC’s been mentioned a few times, but not their “President Kill”:

    Here comes president kill again,
    Surrounded by all of his killing men.
    Telling us who, why, where and when,
    President kill wants killing again.

    Hooray, hang out the flags,
    Queen caring is dead.
    Hooray, well stack body bags,
    For president kill instead.

    Aint democracy wonderful?
    Them russians cant win!
    Aint democracy wonderful?
    Lets us vote someone like that in

    In general I classify myself as a foreign policy realist. When I first heard this song in the late ’80s, I thought, “Oh, those limeys, what a simplistic view of US foreign policy, overlooking the conflicting imperatives of …” But somehow whenever I see our president walking out to a press conference, to announce, or justify, the latest awful bombing, shootdown, special op, “extraordinary rendition”, etc etc committed with my tax money, & in my name, I can’t keep this song out of my head …

  • Somehow when I think of conservative songs the only thing that comes to mind is John Ashcroft singing “When the Eagle Soars”. Now there was a cat that had a funky groove.

  • 71 responses and not a single person listed the most relevant song:

    Minimum Wage by They Might Be Giants.

    🙂

    Actually, ANYTHING by Rage Against the Machine (I’m thinking Maria, Killing in the Name Of and Rodeo are probably the three best.)

    Great job to all!!

    (Oh, and good to see Drive-by Truckers on the list — amazingly underrated band).

  • OH MY GOD ! ! NONE OF YOU VANILLA TWITS MENTION OZZIE’S ‘WAR PIGS’…….

    buncha pussies

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