Taking ‘executive privilege’ to comical depths

“Scandal fatigue” can be common under the circumstances. After seven-and-a-half years of legal, moral, ethical, and political outrages, many of the scandals of the Bush/Cheney years start to blur together. Some are even forgotten, swept aside to make room for new, more offensive controversies.

It’s only natural, then, to shift the focus away from the White House and towards the campaign to pick the next president. I’m afraid, however, now isn’t a good time to stop watching the Bush gang — some of their bigger scandals are managing to look even worse.

The Bush administration today unveiled a set of novel and controversial legal arguments in refusing to disclose key details about Vice President Dick Cheney’s role in the leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame’s identity.

In two letters released Wednesday, the Justice Department revealed that, upon the recommendation of Attorney General Michael Mukasey, President Bush had invoked executive privilege rather than turn over to Congress a never-released FBI report (known as a “302”) recounting a confidential 2004 interview with Cheney about his knowledge of the Plame affair.

The White House move effectively closes the door on the last chance for the public to learn answers to a swirl of questions that have surrounded Cheney’s actions from the outset of the Plame case.

Last year, Patrick Fitzgerald, pointing to Cheney’s conduct, told a jury, “[T]here is a cloud over what the vice president did.”

And yesterday, the White House and the Attorney General decided it’s better to keep that cloud in place than to cooperate with a congressional investigation and add facts to the public record.

Just how “novel and controversial” were the new legal arguments? Let’s put it this way: the Justice Department created privilege claims, out of thin air, that no one’s ever heard of before.

The decision by the White House to refuse to honor the subpoena from Democratic Rep. Henry Waxman’s House Oversight and Government Reform Committee for Cheney’s interview was hardly unexpected, given the administration’s history of fiercely protecting presidential prerogatives. What was surprising to some legal scholars was the basis for shielding the FBI interview report. It was covered, Mukasey said, by what he called “the law-enforcement component of executive privilege.”

“As far as I know, this is an utterly unprecedented executive-privilege claim,” said Peter Shane, an Ohio State University law professor who is an expert on executive privilege and separation-of-powers issues. “I’ve never heard this claim before.”

Normally, claims of executive privilege are invoked to protect the disclosure of the president’s communications with his top advisers. But in this case, the White House invoked the claim to keep secret Cheney’s responses to FBI agents (hardly what anybody would call his advisers), who were grilling him as part of the now-closed criminal investigation headed by Fitzgerald.

The word “madness” keeps coming to my mind, but others chose less provocative adjectives.

“Creative is a good word to describe it,” said Mark Rozell, another executive-privilege expert who is a professor at George Mason University’s School of Public Policy, about the attorney general’s contention. “This is really an argument to protect the White House’s own political interests and save it from embarrassment.”

And that, of course, is not the Attorney General’s job.

Dan Froomkin had a very good report on all of this today, and pointed to these remarks from Jonathan Turley on MSNBC last night: “You know, reading this letter from Attorney General Mukasey to the president is extraordinary. He doesn’t just claim presidential privilege, he claims deliberative process privilege, he claims law enforcement privilege, he claims anything short of a copyright infringement to keep the documents away from Congress. His position apparently is, ‘I recognize,’ and he says this, ‘that you, that Congress, has an oversight right to look into this area. You just can’t see any of the evidence you need to do it.'”

And lest anyone thinks this is the norm, Waxman noted in a letter to Mukasey several months ago: “During the Clinton Administration, your predecessor, Janet Reno, made an independent judgment and provided numerous FBI interview reports to the Committee, including reports of interviews with President Clinton, Vice President Gore, and three White House Chiefs of Staff. I have been informed that Attorney General Reno neither sought nor obtained White House consent before providing these interview records to the Committee. I believe the Justice Department should exercise the same independence in this case.”

The Bush gang plays by its own rules — the ones they make up as they go along.

Why are the Dems keeping impeachment off the table? Why did they vote to confirm Mukasey?

  • I need help understanding Mukasey’s motivation for his ruling. Is he more loyal to President Bush than he is to the rule of law? (hard to believe given his professional life as a judge). Does he really believe what he is saying? (hard to believe given the contrary judgments of others). Does he fear losing his position as AG? (hard to believe given the circumstances). Perhaps Sen. Schumer can explain because I just don’t get it. Anyone?

  • Does Mukasey understand that this particular “302” is the exclusive property of the United States, and cannot be surrendered to any member of the Bush administration on January 20, 2009—when a new president comes to power? Claiming executive privilege documents the fact that this item does, indeed, exist. The next session of Congress, in exercising their right to see this item, will simply re-issue the request. Mukasey’s replacement will either produce it, or declare it “missing.”

    Mukasey could be held criminally liable for its loss—and Bush won’t be able to issue any pardons, once he’s out of office.

    And another point that extrapolates this issue to envelop the entire Bush administration—how do they plan to get the probable millions of documents out of Washington between now and the beginning of an Obama presidency? They probably can’t shred the damned things fast enough.

    Maybe we should start watching for armed Blackwater Security convoys, roaming the streets and skies of DC….

  • Where oh where is inherent contempt when you need it?

    Why is it that the only contempt Congressional Democrats seem able to muster is the contempt they display for the rule of law (in league with the Bush people)?

  • One would have to impeach the entire administration at this point since they all appear united in their effort to protect the “family”. Mukasey has yet to do his job unless he views his job as merely protecting the Bush administration.

    A slap in the face of justice that our leaders force us to endure. just pathetic.

  • I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:

    Jan. 17th: Bush pardons Cheney.
    Jan. 18th: Bush resigns.
    Jan. 19th: President Cheney pardons Bush.

  • Oh for Cripes sake…

    Who the hell cares about executive privilege to cover up a crime where high officials destroyed a counter-WMD CIA operation? Don’t you know that there are MUCH more important things to talk about…?

    Don’t you people know that Hillary is parting her hair differently?

  • How much would a future Democratic administration have the ability to dig into this? Are all the papers of the Bush administration sealed away for X years, or if there is some question of legal impropriety, can we assume that a future attorney general could decide that these documents need to be given to Congress, and at that point there’s nothing this Bush administration can do re: executive privilege?

    Someone refresh my memory of the legalities of this; I am trying to comfort myself that whatever obfuscation they choose to do now, in February 2009 we’ll see it all. But is that self delusion?

    Thanks.

  • TomB – (Re #2) The Bushies have either compromising pictures and/or video, or some type of hostage.
    Aside from some integrity-destroying drug, I can’t think of a more plausable explanation.
    And lest you think that this is far-fetched, how many soldiers have these creeps sent to their deaths?

  • BuzzMon @ 9:

    So who do you suppose Bush had the NSA wiretapping all these years? You don’t think he cared about terrorists, do you?

  • of course they play by their own rules – because they can. and they will continue to do so until someone forces them to stop.

    one way to do so would be impeachment. The “Democratic” congress has made pretty clear they aren’t interested in that.

    the next way would be to crush them and their movement decisively at the ballot box. that is about all we have left, and then we have to hope they don’t simply decide to nullify the election and dare everyone to do anything about that, too.

  • The blogshperic left needs to pin down Obama on whether he advocates transparency in government. He could open up all these scandalous documents for congressional review. Or perhaps even public review. If so, historians and scholars would then find themselves with engaging employment for decades trying to coherently see through the smoke and mirrors created by Cheney and Addington.

  • The “law enforcement component” of executive privilege? Is that the one that says that if revealing the information would expose the executive to law enforcement, they don’t have to play?

    I mean, seriously, how can a President go around ignoring the laws he needs or wants to break, if someone like Congress is going to try and enforce them? When will Congress learn?

  • So the FBI gathers testimony in an investigation, but when it’s time to use it, the perpetrator says, no you can’t use this evidence, it belongs to me.

    This is one ring around the rosy investigation for sure. Remember when Bush vowed to find and fire the “leaker”? That press conference video needs to be played next to a reading of this letter tonight on NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC and CNN. It should be, but I hear Hillary has new hair and cleavage.

    Whatever respectable career Mukasey ever had will soon be forgotten as he is memorialized as Alberto Gonzales II.

  • Larry G:
    Why are the Dems keeping impeachment off the table? Why did they vote to confirm Mukasey?

    Very good questions. The Dem leadership and the press want to keep a million miles away from impeachment. But that doesn’t make it right.

    There’s of course already plenty of grounds to build a strong impeachment case against Cheney or Bush (and there was for Gonzales). I wonder if this (or anything else) could constitute an impeachable offense by Mukasey? (My guess is no, honestly just asking.)

  • If the Democratic Congressional leadership had any courage they would challenge this executive privilege claim and ask the Supreme Court for an expedited ruling.

    Thomas would vote as a Republican and Scalia’s situational ethics would decide a case a case against the Bush administration in Bush’s favor. But Roberts has shown occasional glimpses of still having the tiniest sliver of integrity left. So the Supreme Court would reject this nonsense.

    Unfortunately, we don’t have a Democratic Congressional leadership with any courage.

    Sigh.

  • I would like to know how it is that the Vice President can argue that he’s independent of the executive one minute, and be protected under executive privilege the next.

    I won’t hold my breath for the Democrats in Congress to come up with an answer.

  • The Constitution is set up such that, if an executive administration is utterly determined to ignore the rule of law, there is little that can be done from an enforcement standpoint to compel it to behave otherwise, save one thing: impeachment. That’s the emergency measure the framers left in. The one and only real threat that stands behind all the rest–subpoenas and whatnot. “If you refuse to obey, we’ll impeach you” is really all they’ve got, if confronted with a totally shameless and arrogant Executive.

    By taking impeachment off the table, Pelosi and Reid et al. essentially declared unilateral disarmament. They put themselves in the position that every “demand” they make of the executive is in fact just a plea with no force behind it. “Please give us those documents?” is all they are capable of saying. To which the answer, in all cases where such request is likely to cause the least discomfort to the Administration, is “No.”

    So Rangel and Waxman and whoever can pretend to issue subpoenas, but all they’re really asking is for some Executive branch lawbot to issue some legalistic verbiage amounting to “go F yourselves.” They know that’s all they’re going to get, but they have to ask anyway because otherwise it comes out in the open that the whole system has broken. They know it’s all dumbshow, and so do the guys on the other side–to the point where they’re hardly bothering to put any effort into faking it anymore. But that’s okay because faking it, however lamely and contemptuously, is all it takes, since no one–least of all the Corporate Media–wants to burst the “We’re a constitutional democracy! Honest! World’s best!” bubble. It’s a lot like that joke near the end of the Soviet Union, in the Brezhnev era when the whole system was basically hollowed out and crumbling but no one had figured out how to admit it yet: “We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us,” was how it went.

    The whole thing is a transparent fraud but everyone is still going through the motions because, on the Congress’s side, not to do so would be to admit they’re a bunch of powerless peons, and on the Administration’s side, it’s convenient to maintain the appearance of constitutional democracy even though they’re acting with no legal restraint whatsoever, and on the media’s side because their real mission is all about Maintaining the Decorum and fitting what truth-telling they ever do within the Conventional Narrative of National Greatness.

    But at this point it’s getting hard to ignore that it’s complete dumbshow. Total, fraudulent, meaningless dumbshow. This IS the government we have now. It’s not a freak or a “scandal.” It is the deliberately-arrived at way of doing business (or not doing any) that we have. It isn’t an aberration. It’s the norm.

  • @Will

    I like your thinking there-great logic Seems to be impenatrable argument, but clearly that claim was about a different matter. In this case, he’s in the executive branch. That’s so obvious, any long time world wrestling fan could see it.

    There’s one thing lacking in each case of these impeachable offenses. Chutzpa, balls, cajones, nerve, or no pun intended, will. Can someone in Congress please tie these jokers up with an impeachment case if only to keep them too busy defending themselves to do any more damage?

  • Quit whining , the Republic is dead and we will never get it back with talk . You don’t talk your way out of tyranny .

  • As the recent track record shows that only Republicans impeach people, maybe we can figure a way to get them to do it. We’re missing a very large amount of integrity in our government, from the President right on down to the most lowly torturer in the dungeons and that’s including Congress.

  • Okay, one more time. Forget that impeachment would have failed in the House, probably, since there would have been no Republicans to offset the various ‘blue dogs’ that would have voted no. Forget that there is no way that 17 Republican Senators would vote to convict, even if you did get all the Democrats. But what the hell it would be a noble defeat.

    (And forget that the best result would be a Cheney Presidency, more likely we’d have a McCain Presidency and hand him the benefit of incumbency. And forget the infighting among the Democrats when it failed, and the great boost for the DLC/Triangulation types.)

    Just remember two things. WHEN Impeachment failed, this would put Congress on record as supporting Bush’s assaults on the Constitution. What a wonderful precedent!

    And, since the election of 2006 the Republicans have been lethargic, embarrassed by Bush, and a splitered party with all the subgroups battling themselves. The ONLY thing that would encourage and unify the Party would be the cry “Stand behind the President” that an impeachment would create. (Remember how many of us who were getting a little tired of Bill Clinton rallied behind him.)

    Pelosi is a smart woman. And she can count. She happens to think winning this next election is better than playing Don Quixote. I continue to applaud her for it, as I have since January 2007.

  • “How much would a future Democratic administration have the ability to dig into this?

    Get OVER it. No president is gonna set that precedent. You HIGH, man?”

    I don’t think that’s clear. There is a major countervailing self-interest in at least some disclosure.

    At some point, some (more) of this will become public; it has taken the dedicated and round the clock work of the president and his minions (Mukasey being a minion if there ever was one) working to keep a mostly effective lid on. The pace will pick up significantly post the election, esp if Obama wins.

    It’s a guaranteed that many of the big secrets will come out, and Cheney’s testimony (known, documented, already in several hands) is lead among those. If team Obama doesn’t make these known, after a period, they own them, they get the stink of them as if they had done them.

    These are smart folks, and they aren’t going to want that. So long as they are smart in what they release and emphasize, so long as they get it done in the first 6-8 months, and as long as the process appears to be independent and fair-minded (never mind that Fox will scream bloody murder from day 1), the gain will far outweigh the loss of executive power, which is illusory in that even in any case.

    The interesting points; how much will slop out onto, e.g., Rockefeller and the like.

    The real hammer, and the only real punishment the Bushites will suffer, is loss of law licenses. Clinton got his license suspended for 5 years …

  • 14.
    On July 17th, 2008 at 3:53 pm, scudbucket said:
    The blogshperic left needs to pin down Obama on whether he advocates transparency in government. He could open up all these scandalous documents for congressional review. Or perhaps even public review. If so, historians and scholars would then find themselves with engaging employment for decades trying to coherently see through the smoke and mirrors created by Cheney and Addington.

    Hey scudbucket supports much of what is key to my believes. All of this secret stuff about the War needs to be aired out in public to vindicate America. The prime reason McCain will not stop the war is for those reasons, when the war is stopped, America and the International community can reflect on the actions Bush and Company have taken. America can finally see the Judegments made to go to war. Many may not agree with me but that’s the real terror the Republicans are afraid of, highly and likely Bush and Company’s complicity with the Arab family those of the Bin Laden Family, were America through family deals to profiteer and use the American resources to fight to put in position an Arab friendly government. Simple geometry shows one that Arabia is bordering along side a significant stretch of Iraq and likely has been factoring in and out this Iraq War at will.

    Transparency is a key to America’s success and if Obama makes a pledge to open those national security secrets, I will be compelled to vote for him just on that message. One thing is sure to happen, huge and extensive resignations not only in the corporate America but in the Mainstream Media for we now know CNN, MSNBC, and Fox have with deliberate intention misinformed the electorate for decades leading America to were we are now. A horrible mess.

  • Where’s your outrage at The National Security Act of 1998 that Clinton signed
    into law? It gives our leaders complete freedom to “disappear” anybody they
    want to permanently: with no arrest warrant, no charges, no hearing, no phone
    call, no lawyer, and no contact with neighbors, family, friends and associates.
    No only that, but if you are unlucky enough to get busted like this, you can be
    held indefinitely at an undisclosed location-forever-if the feds think it’s in their
    best interest. We’re talking about law abiding US Citizens here. Where’s your righteous indignation over this? The stuff you’re all arguing about is nothing compared to this. How about the FBI Sneak & Peak provision of the Patriot Act? The feds can enter your house while you are gone and search it without a warrant. Who cares about Valerie Plame? She was a staff analyst at the CIA’s home office. She flew a desk and never engaged in covert field operations anyway. You guys are out of touch with reality, when it comes to your paranoid focus. And what’s the big deal about Bush appointing 8 Republican US Attorneys to the higher courts? Clinton appointed 97 Democratic US Attorneys to the higher courts and I didn’t hear a peep out of any of you. I’m a registered Democrat and I’ve been a Liberal since I came back from The War In South East Asia, voted for McGovern for president and supported Women’s Lib, Abortion Rights, Gay Rights, Affirmative Action and Minority Rights. But I also recognize that Authoritarianism comes in ALL Flavors. The National Security Act of 1998 not only repeals the Bill of Rights, but it makes the entire Constitution Null & Void—AND you people didn’t even pay attention to it? Don’t expect Congress to point it out to you. Both parties in
    power want to be able to disappear outspoken critics when convenient for them.

  • Nothing will happen with this, noone will be held accountable, noone will go to jail over any of the heinous crimes committed against the Constitution and the good people of the United States.

    We are living in a new era, one where apathy is the highest, nay, the ONLY form of expression.
    The American Democratic experiment has been over for some time. The descent into a corrupt, authoritarian regime, much like Russia is now, is gaining speed. Mafia-style Fascism disguised as government is here, and there ain’t nothing anyone can, or will do about it.

    We as a people, a society, just can’t muster the integrity, nor honor , to do so.
    If the Dems have not called for impeachment by now , they never will. Proof enough.
    Obama votes to protect Corporations from the good people of the U.S. Proof enough.

    Get ready for the mullet wearing, gun toting militias to begin to roam. Just like after Katrina.

    Unless you think that never could happen, even when it did…….

  • Executive privilege only covers legal activity by the White House. Obviously, outing Valerie Plame was illegal and therefore is not covered by executive privilege.

    But the weirdest part is that Bush claims his office had nothing to do with it, and now is claiming executive privilege. Which is it?

  • At this juncture in our national history, we common Americans have concluded there are a bunch of unabashed criminals in our White House! -Kevo

  • Who cares what Pellosi thinks … Bush has protected America after 9-11 and has more or less defeated the Islamic threat. The streets of middle east are NOT exploding and the streets of Baghdad are very quiet. And you can be sure no terrorist is able to board a plane that easily either. Extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures – no one ever grudges the draft during WW2 when young men died defending Europe or for that matter factories making tanks and not cars. If the war was not taken to the streets of Baghdad and Kabul – it would have been fought on streets of New York and Los Angeles.

  • Bo ho – I’m so AFRAID! 911! 911! 911!

    Pisses pants…

    Democracy AINT FOR SISSIES!

    Impeach the traitors!

  • Impeach the traitors?
    Not an half, I sad hung the bastards and all the sons of dog flag waivers republicans
    Time is come to boycott all the republican companies and all the companies that are keeping in business this moronic republican ideology we are the majority
    Do not buy on companies that keep in business fox news or conservative retrograde disinformation pamphlets’ like drudge report

  • impeachment needs to be left off the table, Bush and Cheney will hopefully be charged with war crimes and the soldiers present can take pics of them swinging, an international tribunal and hearing would be best, the greatest threat to America today is the present administration

  • Who really cares?

    You’re using a quote from MSNBC and Henry Waxman. Both of these entities are agenda driven.

    All you Democrats that hate Cheney, get over it. This executive privilege will become used even more in the future…….even by Democrats. So careful liberals.

  • Jen allster,

    The greatest threat to America, didn’t get elected 4 and 8 years ago. Thank God, because the war on terror would have been brought to our soil again. How quickly you liberals forget. Wake up!

  • Someone notified Republican trolls about this thread. There had been some excellent comments.

  • dannyshe….

    The funny thing about Liberal Dummycrats (thats a shot for the troll comment), they would rather not have opposition. If everyone believed what they believed, than this world would be great. Except we would live in a Socialist state.

    I, on the other hand believe we need each other to balance this country, no matter how much I disagree with your views.

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