Taking the ideology to its logical limit

At his end-of-the-year press conference last week, the president hopes to set Americans’ minds at ease over his warrantless-search program by emphasizing the international aspect to it. “[I]f you’re calling from Houston to L.A.,” Bush said, “that call is not monitored.”

As it happens, that wasn’t actually true. Nevertheless, a reporter on hand for the press conference quickly followed up on the president’s response by taking his approach further, asking, “[W]hy not monitor those calls between Houston and L.A.? If the threat is so great, and you use the same logic, why not monitor those calls?”

Bush responded by pointing out that he would use FISA courts to monitor domestic calls if the need arose — which, again, wasn’t true — but this idea of taking Bush’s positions to their logical limit is a compelling thought experiment. Eugene Robinson explored this in more detail today.

The problem is that if the president really were determined to do anything it takes to prevent another terrorist strike, why not suspend habeas corpus, as Lincoln did during the Civil War? That way you could arrest everyone who could possibly be a terrorist, or who once lived next door to a suspected terrorist’s uncle, and you could hold those people as long as you wanted. Why stop at surveillance of international telephone calls and e-mails? Why not listen in on, say, all interstate calls as well? Or just go for it and scarf up all the domestic communications the National Security Agency’s copious computers can hold?

Why stop at waterboarding? Why not go all the way and pull out some fingernails, if that would give Americans another tiny increment of security? Wouldn’t electric shocks make us safer still? Just order the White House lawyers to draw up yet another thumb-on-the-scale legal opinion explaining how torture isn’t really torture, and have at it.

If potential terrorists may be walking among us, why not have police officers stand on street corners all day and subject anyone who looks “suspicious” to questioning and a search? That’s what Fidel Castro does in Cuba, and believe me, Cuba is an extremely safe country.

In Vietnam we destroyed villages in order to save them. In this war on terrorism, why not go ahead and destroy our freedoms in order to save them?

Given that the president seems willing to circumvent the law when he finds legal limits overly burdensome, Robinson’s questions are hardly unreasonable.

Iam hoping Robinson is being sarcastic.

Actually the data mining does randomly check calls, in and out of the states, fingernails have been pulled out and suspects are rounded up on suspicion. The latter two overseas, but come to think of it there have been Muslims and Middle-Eastern men rounded up on just on suspicion here in the US as well…

  • Or tey could do as I understand happened in Vietnam, take a couple of suspected terrorists up in a helocopter and thow one out. Then the other will “talk.”

  • Do you think they wouldn’t do all of this if they thought they could get away with it politically?

  • And I wouldn’t be surprised if some of those hypotheticals come true over the next few weeks and months as we begin to learn more and as more insiders begin to speak out on this criminal administration. Don’t sell these people short. They’re evil.

    Stay tuned….

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