Taking the next logical step in warrantless searches

I’ve never fully understood the administration’s response to why their warrantless-search program only monitors calls if one end of the call lies outside the United States. Officials say they’re monitoring terrorists, protecting the country, and ignoring FISA because the threat is so great, and the surveillance is so valuable, that they have no choice but to use this program.

But in the very next breath, they also say that if there’s a call between two suspects, both of whom are on U.S. soil, the call is not monitored. This just doesn’t make any sense. The WaPo had a good piece today on the contradiction.

Many national security law experts said yesterday that the distinction makes little sense legally, because the administration concluded that President Bush has the constitutional authority to order wiretaps on U.S. citizens and residents without court approval.

Once that threshold is crossed, numerous experts said yesterday, there is little reason to limit the kind of calls that can be intercepted. It is irrelevant where the other contact is located, they said.

“The rationale for this surveillance has nothing to do with anything tied to a border,” said Geoffrey R. Stone, a University of Chicago law professor critical of the administration’s legal justifications for the NSA program.

“There’s no pragmatic reason and no principled reason why, if it is okay for NSA to listen in on phone calls between someone in Detroit and Pakistan without a warrant, they also can’t listen in on a phone call between Detroit and New York,” Stone said.

Just to be clear, I’m not encouraging the administration to engage in warrantless searches of purely domestic phone calls; I’m just noting that within the administration’s defense, the distinction is bizarre.

I’d feel better about the contradiction if the Bush gang could come up with a half-way coherent explanation for it. So far, they haven’t.

Testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee this week, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales tried to explain why it’s okay to listen in on calls with one American, but not two.

“Senator, think about the reaction, the public reaction that has arisen in some quarters about this program. If the president had authorized domestic surveillance, as well, even though we’re talking about Al Qaida-to-Al Qaida, I think the reaction would have been twice as great.

“And so there was a judgment made that this was the appropriate line to draw in ensuring the security of our country and the protection of the privacy interests of Americans.”

Even by Bush administration standards, this explanation is ridiculous. First, there’s no reason the White House, four years ago, had to worry about “the public reaction.” This was a confidential surveillance program; the public wasn’t going to find out. Second, the Bush gang isn’t supposed to be worried about public outcry — according to their rhetoric, they’re far more concerned with preventing terrorist attacks than popularity.

And third, if an al Queda terrorist is talking to another al Queda terrorist, and they’re both on American soil, the Bush administration is suddenly concerned with protecting privacy interests? Gonzales expects people to believe this?

Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wis.) called the arguments “incomprehensible.” It seems like the appropriate word.

i agree with you 99%, but don’t you think it is worth clarifying that Gonzales said that those domestic to domestic calls are still monitored, but only under the FISA requirements. You imply that those calls are not listened to at all. In that light, you can begin to understand a little bit the distinction that they are making, ie we are requiring ourselves to have a slightly higher burden of proof (ie FISA standards) for entirely domestic calls, but when only one end of the call is domestic (Rove’s so called international calls) the standard of proof drops to whatever standard they uphold for the covert program.

  • Dunno CB,

    Seems wishful thinking that they aren’t listening to purely domestic intercepts…it might just not have been revealed to date…

  • What’s to say they’re not lying about this, too, and they really are tapping domestic-domestic calls?

  • It seems rather strange that they would openly say “but we’re not doing THIS thing over here.” What was that old saying?

    “Only the guilty will deny guilt before even being accused.”

    Yep—that’s it in a nutshell, already….

  • Of course they are lying……I may be confused on all the stoires spun (lying does that, too….confuses others) – but, has not Cheney and rest of his, I mean W, adminstration tout out the 2 suspected terriorists in San Diego (and I KNOW this is on US soil – though they may try to tell me different) as an example if they had this warrant-less power they may have prevented 9/11?

  • I’m much more worried about exactly who the admin (or, more accurately, the echo-chamber world of conservative kooks) are willing to call terrorists. Rememebr, these are the guys and gals who confuse not supporting a morinic president on his idiotic and destructive warpath with hating America.

  • Until the Times blew their cover, our gov’t denied doing any surveillance without a warrant. So, why would anyone believe their latest claims?

  • I really think its just a matter of time that someone would find out that the warrentless surveillance program was tapping into the Kerry campaign or something equally damning.

  • Gonzales said at least twice that they weren’t doing domestic wiretapping “under the program we’re discussing.” The obvious inference for me was that they are doing warrentless domestic wiretapping, they just consider it to be under a different program. And by “program”, I of course mean “double-secret handshake and codename.”

  • I think AG didn’t deny tapping domestic-to-domestic calls, just not under “this program” — which by definition doesn’t listen to domestic-to-domestic calls. There was so much parsing of “the program the President admitted to” I gotta beleive there are additonal (non-FISA) listening programs out there.

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