That splintering sound you hear is the GOP coalition coming apart

Let’s take a quick look at the list of things I’d love to see happen right now.

* Bush losing stature and public support? Check.

* Congressional Republicans with the lowest poll support in a decade? Check.

* And perhaps most importantly, the dormant fissures dividing the GOP coming to the surface? One big check.

John M. Engler, the former Republican governor of Michigan who now heads the National Association of Manufacturers, vowed before the November elections to use his trade association’s might to back President Bush’s judicial nominees. But as the Senate showdown approaches, the business group is delivering a different message: Judges are not its fight.

NAM’s decision to sit out the brawl may be indicative of a broader trend. From Wall Street to Main Street, the small-government, pro-business mainstay of the Republican Party appears to be growing disaffected with a party it sees as focused on social issues at its expense.

“I’m inclined to support the Republican Party, but the question becomes, how much other stuff do I have to put up with to maintain that identification?” asked Andrew A. Samwick, a Dartmouth College economics professor who until recently was chief economist of Bush’s Council of Economic Advisers.

When members of the president’s Council of Economic Advisers start muttering about the difficulties he’s having identifying with the GOP, you know this is a party with serious internal problems.

The chasm between evangelicals who demand action on sexual/religious issues and corporate interests who demand work on tax cuts is growing, and seems to be getting worse. The religious right is convinced that the party leaders only pay lip service to social issues, but is actually concerned breaks for Big Business. Corporate Republicans, meanwhile, are convinced that the GOP is on some kind of religious crusade, and they’re not comfortable with the direction of their party.

Oddly enough, both sides have a point. The party is letting all of its factions down.

The evangelicals see their items dominating conversation in DC, but there’s no real progress in terms of policy. If you’re Focus on the Family, you look at the landscape and see abortion rates getting higher (unlike under Clinton’s leadership), gays receiving more legal protections, and the ongoing inability to convert children to Christianity in public schools. The corporate wing, meanwhile, sees record-high deficits, a weak job market, a record trade imbalance, and a stock market that’s lower now than it was when Bush took office five years ago.

(Making matters even more interesting, the libertarian wing is noticing that federal spending is up considerably under GOP rule, and the size of government is growing in uncomfortable ways in areas such as education, health care, and law enforcement.)

The social conservatives’ top priorities (constitutional amendment banning gay marriage and the nuclear option) aren’t going anywhere, and the economic conservatives’ top priorities (Social Security privatization and revamping the tax code) are making even less progress.

Since the election, Washington Republicans resemble the German military during World War I, opening new fronts before old battles are resolved, said John E. Silvia, chief economist at Wachovia Corp. and a former top GOP economist for the Senate Banking Committee and the Joint Economic Committee. One week it’s Social Security, the next week it’s Schiavo, then steroids, then judges, he said.

“It’s an unbalanced domestic agenda,” Silvia said. “If you’re going to go to the wall on one particular issue, you’re telling me you’re going to sacrifice other issues, and history is full of stories of battles won at the cost of missing issues that have lost the war.”

There’s plenty of time for the Republicans to change course and regain their footing, but at this point, the party has no direction and its leaders are either corrupt (DeLay) or hapless (Bush, Frist).

What’s more, there is no plan to turn things around. It couldn’t have happened to a more appropriate group of people.

Don’t count your chickens….

Remember when we all thought that Kerry was definitely going to win?

Remember that Bush’s poll numbers are irrelevant. He’s a lame duck. Right now, there must be Republicans carefully distancing themselves from Bush as they prepare their run in the Republican primaries. Most of those fissures are probably just the aftershocks of those moves. One could certainly hope that the next Republican candidate won’t be again selected by Cheney and Company. I’m sure there are power struggles in the works right now relating to that. If Cheney Co. doesn’t win control, then Halliburton’s fortunes should take a dive and we could hope that the unsavoriness that is currently being encouraged in military prisons will be among the things that would not recur in either a new Democrat or a new Republican administration.

I wonder how many of those ‘moderates’ who crafted the ‘keep the filibuster’ deal are planning presidential bids?

  • “I’m inclined to support the Republican Party, but the question becomes, how much other stuff do I have to put up with to maintain that identification?â€? asked Andrew A. Samwick.

    Clowns like this infuriate me. Just what the hell they think they were going to get when they voted bush back in? Were they just not paying attention, or did they really think the next four years would be different than the last? Did he think all of a sudden bush was going to offer a responsible budget or at least hint that he had a plan to get us out of Iraq?

    A pox upon the house of Samwick.

  • I was about to shout “Bravo!”. Then I read Catherine’s cautions and felt a bit more cautious myself. Then I thought “Oh, to hell with it; let’s have some for for a change” — I’ve enjoyed everything in your Report this morning, so here you go: Bravo!

  • I agree with Ed, bravo to today’s Carpetbagger! I would add let’s hope, not only for the sake of the Democratic party, but for the country, that this signals the opening shot in a revolt of the Republican moderates to win control of their party. It’s the only move McCain can make now if he wants the nomination.

  • This describes exactly what the logical outcome is when unstoppable reality starts intruding on a fantasy-based world.

    To use a Star Wars analogy, imagine what would have happened if Luke, Leia and Han had just smiled and assured themselves that everything was fine when they were trapped in the Death Star garbage compactor instead of making the effort to find a way to stop the process and save themselves.

    That’s precisely the situation that the administration is finding itself in now, and they have no idea how to find the ‘off’ switch.

  • I don’t buy it, for this reason: the judges that got through were specifically targeted to specific courts for non-religious reasons. Team Dobson was either willingly complicit in a big scam on religious conservatives, or they were suckers.

  • When you hear conservative commentators and activists call for the scalps of McCain(R-AZ), DeWine(R-OH) and Graham(R-SC), while Dobson is taking Trent Lott to task for facilitating the compromise, you know there’s trouble in the other camp. But you have to remember, Republicans are very good at gaming elections, finding wedge issues and hammering on them until people who want government out of their lives vote for candidates that want to legislate morality while ignoring almost every single issue that actually affects their lives from war to health care to social security to fiscal responsibility. I hope there will be major reversals in the House and the Senate in ’06, and there is going to be some serious backlash from dissembling in Iraq, the stem cell issue which has bipartisan support against the narrow minded will of the president and this thinly veiled power grab that was the filibuster nuclear option debate. But because of the Republican ability to shut down electoral debate to all but wedge issues, I find it hard to believe that the Democrats will make major inroads. I really hope I’m wrong though.

  • It’s no wonder that the American people are feeling so disaffected. While the Republicans spend an incredible amount of time on making sure that gays can’t get married and that the corporatier class gets off the hook for their financial obligations to the public good, the conversations that should be taking place such as jobs, health care, education, etc. aren’t even being discussed.

    I wonder if when the religious right can no longer afford to live in America because the only jobs available are at Wal-Mart and McDonald’s if they will get off this stupid vendetta and start doing something constructive?

  • Stop the goddamned gloating! I hate this, and progressives have this habit worst of anyone. It’s stupid. Just stop it.

    The right-wingers don’t gloat at the first sign of success, and then give up– because they LOVE TO FIGHT. No matter how much they win, they view it as a defeat, and keep on fighting as if they had lost. And that’s why they win! Meanwhile, we hate to fight, and are pathetic in our constant search for some helpful sign that the corner has been turned and we can now go back to a peaceful life. And that’s why we lose. They try to kill us, we sit around gloating and hope that they kill themselves, so that we don’t have to get our hands dirty.

    NO MORE. Stop the gloating. Stop it.

    The coalition is not coming apart. It *may* come apart, if we keep the pressure on, and strategise ways to pit those guys against each other. It could be fun. But we have to work at it; it’s not going to happen by itself. I’d be interested in a discussion of the fissure points we see and how we could exploit them. I’d be interested not in gloating, but in the raising of the flag of opportunity: not resting on our laurels, but excited and energised by the identification of new weaknesses we can exploit.

    Anyway, the fighting that Reid did, along with plenty of grassroots support, helped a lot. It’s a success in some ways– particularly in PR. But the real fun is yet to come. How can we make the most of it?

    I’m excited and encouraged, keep up the good work. Don’t rest and let them regroup and re-connect. Keep challenging them and pouncing on their mistakes and weaknesses. And please stop gloating.

  • I feel Publius’ frustration. And hope as well. But the frustration takes center stage. I hate the thought of winning significant gains in ’06 basically because folks are put off by the Republicans, only to watch the Dem’s wallow around and waste time and get all puffed up thinking they/we earned something when all that happens is we get to run a lap with the baton while the energy on the other side builds and becomes more focused.

    So much tension built up around this nuclear option thing that it feels like something major happened when that tension was released. None of the players have left the stage on either side. I heard a snippet of Ed Schultz on Air Am. today as he spoke with Chris Dodd and Mr. Dodd said anyone who is concerned with how all this comes out had better be sleeping with one eye open. Absolutely right.

    And it would sure be nice if there were some cohesion and plans in place to run with in case the opportunity to assume the majority occurs in the not too distant future. We all have a responsibility to observe and make contributions to this process.

    Thanks to The Carpetbagger and Commentors for the recent intelligent and insightful discussions on this issue as it’s progressed.

  • I haven’t seen any evidence that anyone here is gloating or sitting on laurels (did we even win any laurels to sit on?). I’m not sure that giving up three-plus judgeships while retaining a filibuster which we’re not supposed to employ is a victory in any sense of the word.

    But I do think it’s worth noting that the head of the Natl Assn of Manufacturers is mad at Frist for failing the business community, while Dobson is mad at Frist for failing the theocrats, and neither of those camps is comfortable with the other no matter how useful any temporary coalition between them might have been. On top of that structural conflict, Frist is mad at McCain for usurping his leadership thunder for the moment. And that’s good, and it may get even better. At the moment Republicans are as bad at compromise among themselves as the extreme left was during the ’60s and ’70s: for them moves toward compromise are evil, mortal sins.

    FWIW, I don’t think Republicans are as crafty and hard-fighting as has been suggested. I think they benefitted greatly from inheriting the northern and southern bigots who used be “the other half” of the old pre-Civil-Rights-Act Democratic coalition. They’ve also benefitted greatly from the growth of suburbia and decline of the labor movement. But they haven’t really “fought” for all that so much as inherited it. They only thing they seem to have fought for was to win over the right-wing religious kooks, who are not as numerous, organized or influential as many seem to fear. That Faustian bargain will come back to bite them if former “great awakenings” are any guide.

    So I think there’s a lot of room for hope. And that’s not gloating – it’s just an attempt at assessment — probably a pretty feeble one, so I really would like to know what’s specifically wrong with it. Meantime, I’m still going to gloat a tiny bit about today and thank Reid and Carpetbagger for doing what they’ve been doing so well. And I have no intention of ruining a good sleep by trying to keep one eye open. To quote Scarlett O’Hara, “tomorrow’s another day.”

  • Hope Rocks.

    I am reminded of the phrase that one can “make his/her own luck”. I would like to think that as this scenerio unfolds that we can “Make our own hope” as well rather than waiting for it to come to us through ineptitude and decay on the other side.

    Some acknowledgement of what that hope looks like and a united front in pursuing it would be invigorating.

  • Hi Carpetbagger,

    I think you’ve left out the split over Stem Cell research. That’s an issue that is prying at the seams of the conservative movement as well.

    I forget the Republican representative I heard say this, but he claimed that the “Majority of the Majority” opposed embryonic stem cell research. Ammusing, isn’t it, that 26% of the house should be able stop legislation by forcing their party caucus to vote party line, but the house claims to be more ‘democratic’ then the Senate, where 41% can stop legislation ;-). As it turned out, 50 Republicans heeded the call from former First Lady Nancy Reagan and crossed party lines and supported additional Federal funding for embryonic stem cell research.

    One should always keep in mind, when touting the benefits of a ‘two party system’, that George Washington, one of our founding fathers, opposed factionalism just as we have today. Also that ‘party discipline’ that Delay and McConnell so desperately need, means that as little as 26% of the members of the Senate or House end up making all the decisions.

    Thanks

  • I think anything that makes republicans fight aming themselves is good.

    And I agree with Publius that Dems need to keep the pressure on republicans and exploit and fissures with their ranks.

    If moderate business types can no longer accept the crazies of the far right, the GOP will shatter. I believe it.

  • A wide variety businesses have very real interests in seeing to it that science (i.e., evolution, not theology) is taught in our schools, that embryonic stem cell research is vigorously pursued in this country, that workplaces be tolerant of all religions/races, that highly qualified (albeit gay) employees receive competitive benefits, and so on. They are not all comfortable with the many faith-based schemes of this administration. Any and all of these issues – if pushed strongly by Dems – should be sufficient to drive the whackos away from the GOP and back into ordinary snake-handling. If they break to form their own party (as Dobson has hinted), or it they just stay home, we win.

    You’ll find a number of suggestions along these lines in a brief, pragmatic and hope-filled book out of Princeton Press called Return of the “L” Word: A Liberal Vision for the New Century by Douglas Massey. There’s an interview/review in Mother Jones.

  • The coalition is not coming apart. It *may* come apart, if we keep the pressure on, and strategise ways to pit those guys against each other. It could be fun. But we have to work at it; it’s not going to happen by itself. I’d be interested in a discussion of the fissure points we see and how we could exploit them. I’d be interested not in gloating, but in the raising of the flag of opportunity: not resting on our laurels, but excited and energised by the identification of new weaknesses we can exploit.

    I agree with this part of Plubius’ post, I think Dems need to keep hammering Social Security (check out talkingpointsmemo.com to see how many GOPers this splits off), stem cell (basically the same group), and immigration especially. I think that 2006 could be like 1994, where we see a lot of Rockefeller Republicans realign the way they should. Those folks have a lot more in common with the New Democrats than they do witht the DeLayican/moral majority party that the GOP has become. Chafee, Snowe, Collins, Specter, Castle, Shays, Simmons, Johnson, Leach, LaTourette, Boehlert, Emerson, Wilson, Sweeney, Ramstad – jump on in, the water is fine.

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