The bump heard ’round the world

If you watched Barack and Michelle Obama at their rally in Minnesota on Tuesday night, you may have noticed a cute moment in which the two had a brief fist-pound (or “dap,” as the kids call it).

All things being equal, it wasn’t exactly the most the newsworthy moment of the night. Was it a sweet moment of affection between the two? Sure. But I wouldn’t characterize the brief gesture as important.

But I’ve clearly misjudged the media’s radar on this. The Obamas bumping fists has become quite the subject of scrutiny the last couple of days.

Barack and Michelle Obama show that you don’t have to be a teenager or an athlete to look cool while executing a fist bump. […]

Obama told NBC’s Brian Williams Wednesday night he is proud of that magical moment. “It captures what I love about my wife, which is that there is a reverence about her and a sense that for all the hoopla that I’m her husband and sometimes we’ll do silly things. “She’s proud of me and she gives me some credit once in a while, but I actually pull some things off.”

The affectionate 11-second exchange before Obama claimed victory as the Democratic presidential nominee Tuesday emphasized Obama’s youth and ability to transcend the stereotyped political gestures of campaigns past, experts said.

“I would imagine to a young voter, this was another sign that these people are one of us,” said psychologist Drew Westen, author of “The Political Brain: The Role Of Emotion in Deciding the Fate of the Nation.” “People saw their willingness to display their affection in the way they really do – at home, or in private moments.”

Yep, this really is being taken seriously. So seriously, in fact, that conservative media voices have begun to attack the affectionate gesture.

At Human Events, one conservative went so far as to write, “Michelle is not as ‘refined’ as Obama at hiding her TRUE feelings about America — etc. Her ‘Hezbollah’ style fist-jabbing…”

(Originally, I believed this was in Cal Thomas’ column. It wasn’t; it came from a Human Events commenter. I’ve corrected the text.)

Regardless, the media really seems to be enjoying this.

It was the fist bump heard ’round the world.

As Barack Obama walked onstage in St. Paul, Minn., to claim the Democratic nomination Tuesday night, he and wife Michelle hugged and then, gazing into each other’s eyes with knowing smiles, gently knocked knuckles.

He also gave her a playful little pat on the butt, but it was the bump that got everyone talking. “That is the picture!” exulted one poster on the Jack and Jill Politics blog (which offers “a Black bourgeois perspective”). “When I saw them give each other dap, I was like ‘Hell yeah!’ ”

Dap, fist pound, whatever you want to call it — it’s definitely something we’re not used to seeing on the national political stage.

“It thrilled a lot of black folks,” said author and commentator Ta-Nehisi Coates, who blogs at ta-nehisi.com. Why? Because it’s the kind of gesture that, while commonplace in the African American community, was generally stifled by earlier generations of blacks working their way up into the corporate or political worlds for fears “about looking too black,” he said. But Obama “is past that. . . . He wears his cultural blackness all over the place.” (Remember his aping of Jay- Z’s “dirt off your shoulder” move in a recent speech?) “It’s liberating to be able to run for president as a black man. . . . Barack is like Black Folks 2.0.”

Meanwhile, Karen Bradley, a visiting professor of dance at the University of Maryland, was struck by the “intimacy” of the moment. Bradley, who studies the body language of politicians, said the fist bump seemed more spontaneous and authentic than the hug, which “looked like they talked about it first.” While Obama generally has contained gestures and his wife has broad ones, this was a moment “where they both shifted” and mirrored each other, fists close to their bodies. “He’s looking right at her, she’s looking right at him — it’s a partnership, it’s ‘We did it.’ ” (More so than the infamous Al- Tipper smooch at the 2000 Democratic convention: “She seemed more invested in it than he did.”)

I have to admit, I never saw this level of interest coming.

Post Script: By the way, for what it’s worth, this fist-pound wasn’t exactly ground breaking in presidential politics — Wesley Clark featured a dap in one of his ’04 commercials.

How do you think this symbol of Black Power looks to your average red-state voter? That is, if your average red-state voter even recognizes the inherent danger! If I hadn’t been living in Chicago when it was 104% black, and if I hadn’t happened to overhear two Negro fellows talking as I made my way home from my favorite neighborhood bar late one night, I wouldn’t even know that this symbol is a secret promise between blacks to take over the world and oppress qualified white women. Fortunately, I’m on to these people now and I’m able to watch my back at all times.

  • That’s actually one gesture that I’m much too square to do unless I’m doing so as a joke, though I did have a homeless guy in Houston make me do one while I was waiting to turn left at a stoplight (I’ve found the homeless guys in Houston to be much more aggressive than the ones here in Austin). But all the same, it took me a second or so to realize what he was expecting from me and I still felt like an idiot doing it. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a pretty cool guy, but in a very square kind of way. I still prefer the high-five.

  • I cracked up when I saw that, because I KNEW this was coming.

    Oh, and the look in her eyes as she gives him the thumbs-up? “Honey, you are gonna get SO lucky tonight . . . “

  • Oh for Jiminy’s Crickets… if a dap is how these grown married people “…display their affection in the way they really do – at home, or in PRIVATE moments.” I’m surprised they ever had children!

    Hahaha…

    It IS cute, but I would think, at home, in private, a dap is not the most intimate move they’d make.

  • I don’t know why, but that moment including the butt-pat made me feel affectionate toward both of them. It seemed spontaneous, loving and honest. So it was a subliminal emotional message for lots of people, I guess.

    I don’t like the Stepford Wife-ish appearance of Laura Bush OR Cindy McCain, and every time I see Bill touch Hillary, I think of all the other women he’s “touched” I have no idea what’s being conveyed by either of them, particularly since there are reports that he hasn’t stopped philandering.

    At the very least, it was a warm moment between them that we saw.

  • Have the folks who feed us the news just never been young? I am 37 and we used to do this when we were kids, and it wasn’t some odd “black thing” either. Sheesh.

  • Is Mary Mother of Odd the new Insane Fake Professor (or whatever)?

    Because that post was both paranoid and funny.
    Oh, and racist.

  • JC said:Oh, and the look in her eyes as she gives him the thumbs-up? “Honey, you are gonna get SO lucky tonight . . . “

    🙂 I picked up that too. There was a lot of love in that look. Of course, if he had lost she might have given him the shoulder brushing sign.

  • Is Mary Mother of Odd the new Insane Fake Professor (or whatever)?

    I believe they’re one and the same. Sadly, the original inspiration seems sincere.

  • Michelle Obama has a certain shyness at moments like that that’s quite quite appealing. She is not yet a full-blooded politician, and while that’s caused her to make some verbal blunders a more seasoned campaigner might have avoided (not many, though–she learns fast), it also gives her a slight quality of self-consciousness in front of large crowds that many people can relate to. She seems to lack hard edges, which invites flattering comparisons to…for example…Cindy McCain. (Who did you think I was going to say?:) )

    Oh, and the look in her eyes as she gives him the thumbs-up? “Honey, you are gonna get SO lucky tonight . . . “

    LOL…that’s what my husband and I said, too. Then we realized that despite their best intentions, they’d probably fall asleep before they were all the way in the bed. Quite the grueling campaign schedule they’ve had.

  • I’m not entirely convinced that Mary Mother of Odd isn’t the old IFP. The 104% black Chicago I found to be especially hilarious.

  • While Cal Thomas’ little moment of bigotry is obviously ridiculous, I’m glad to see positive coverage from most of the news media about the relationship between a candidate and his spouse. The Bill & Hillary marriage has never gotten anything but bad press, it seems, and the relationship between Bush and McCain and their wives quite conveniently never comes up in the MSM.

    And honestly, fist-bumps aren’t really a black thing anymore. I’m only a couple years out of college, and I think more rich, white frat boys bumped fists while playing Madden than the black guys in the dorms ever did.

  • Clinton to suspend? On Saturday HRC will officially suspend her campaign for the presidency. She is incredible. What they are thinking? I think that this is the first time that a candidate who loss the primary is pushing to be in the ticket. She is like a vulture waiting for the opportunity to be fed. Her comments about Kennedy assassination was enough, and her excuses not enough but she is still waiting for something to happen and that is the reason she will not drop out, she suspended her campaign for better opportunity like a vulture. The candidate who won has the choice to pick the VP and the Clinton’s Gang are claiming a right that is not theres. The Obama/Clinton ticket will be a nightmare, and Bill Clinton will be a guillotine to close to our next President. We want a new era, we don’t want to go back to the past, we don’t want any more Monica Lewinsky cases. We want honor and prestige back to the White House.

  • Do have these wingnuts ever heard of Comedy Central? Am I the only one who saw Stewart absolutely dismantle Bush over his intimate little cutesy gestures with the military acadamy grads? And a married couple’s celebratory dap is worthy of analysis after that? really?

  • There are many ways in which you can connect viscerally with people. And, when you do, it shows. It was a visceral response that they both responded to and which apparently other people appreciate. It does in fact triggers the notion that they are one of us. That’s all folks.

  • I must say that IFP/MMOO really deserves some kind of award for the sheer brilliance of the work.

  • Wilco, I think you missed it. Mary, Mother of Odd was making fun of the wingnuts who get all nervous when they see a candidate for President of the United States and his wife acting like… Black People!

    Don’t underestimate the importance of this. I know that I may be sounding like a stuck 78rpm record today, but to many on the right this election isn’t just about a reformer who wants to spoil their fun. This is about a Black Person being President of the United States! And he isn’t even a nice “like us” Black Person like Colin Powell or Clarence Thomas. This Black Person is one of … THEM! He and his wife even ACT BLACK!

    When they see a dap, their minds (such as they are) return to their fears from the 1960’s and the Black Panther Party. Huey Newton. Angela Davis. Bobby Seale. Even MALCOMB X!

    I’m serious. They’re using the scariest images they can think of to frighten their base. And some of the frightened are Hillary Democrats.

    This isn’t going away.

  • Also — Cal Thomas thinks Hezbollah, an explicitly Islamic terrorist group/militia, goes around bumping fists with their wives in public? Seriously?

  • I won’t be the least bit surprised if all the kids are doing the “Obama” handshake in a few weeks:

    Pound It –> Thumbs Up –> Ass Pat –> Claim Democratic Nomination for President (Optional)

  • I still prefer the high-five. -Doctor Biobrain

    Nooo…..

    Plex: What is a high-five?

    Toodee: You don’t know what a high-five is?

    When something happens that is really fun! High-five!
    And you want to share it with someone! High-five!
    Just hold your arm out with your hand way up high and slap your hands together!

    Hey Foofa with a pretty flower! High-five!
    Hey Broobee hit it with some power! High-five!
    Hey Muno put your hand way up high, and DJ Lance Rock in the sky!

    When you high-five with a friend,
    You’ve got a friend until the end!

    My little one is obsessed with Yo Gabba Gabba. The very mention of ‘high-five’ will have that song stuck in my head for hours.

    I can relate, though. I’m not cool enough for a bump.

  • NB said:

    I won’t be the least bit surprised if all the kids are doing the “Obama” handshake in a few weeks:

    Fine. But NO VANILLA ICE COMEBACK!

  • So now we will debate the ‘Dap’? Not global warming, not the war, not the dismal reputation of our once great nation; we are going to debate the dap. The right side is filled with WATB; all of them. Your idiot in chief has an approval rating of 25%! Isn’t it time to stop drinking the kool-aid and grow up?

  • I work as a Metro bus driver. A job that exposes me to the germ carrying public. At work no one shakes hands. We all bump fists. A driver will come in from driving a route and walk through the break room bumping fists with people.

    Another way some of us like to greet each other is to turn our bodies sideways to each other and bump the sides of our shoes in a liberal salute to Larry Craig.

  • Umm, kids don’t call it dap, old folks like me call it dap. The kids call it a fist bump.

    Dap, I’m sorry to tell you all, came along in the 60’s and is an acronym for “Dignity and Pride” straight outta the black power movement that makes Mary quiver in delicious fear. (I thought her comment was hilarious).

    Here’s an explanation from the kids ….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8NQ-pj6IL0&feature=related

    (oh, and I thought the back/butt pat was the clincher. For me it symbolized what millions of us do everyday with our loved ones, friends and buddies. That simple gesture is a reminding touch that, brother/sister I’ve got your back.)

  • Everett said: This is news?

    Let me answer an earlier question first from another thread:

    Everett said: Am I devout troll?

    Yes.

  • I assumed Barack was trying to punch his wife – you know, as a means of expressing alpha male dominance, and she was just blocking the punch reflexively. You know how THOSE PEOPLE are…

    Whoa! Folks, I’m sorry, I…for a moment there, I thought I was Geraldine Ferraro. I don’t know how that happened. I’m fine now, really.

    Anyway, I’m not surprised something so nothing is getting such press. Obama’s so good at NOT giving the media stupid inconsequential bullshit to overanalyze, they’re forced to take whatever they can get, otherwise they might have to (gasp!) discuss issues.

    So yeah, a dap? No big deal. But if they then proceeded to “blow it up?” TOTAL al queda high sign. Watch for it…and beware…

  • Was it Cal Thomas who said that, or a commenter to the post?

    I never saw the original post myself, but the weird formatting of that — awkward punctuation and caps — looks like a comment, not something that even a wingnut like Cal would allow to be published in the piece itself.

    And yes, I can’t beleive I’m defending a nutjob like Cal Thomas.

  • So, nobody told Aristedes that the primary is over?

    If he is going to waste his imagination thinking about Bill with other women, then I will suggest how nauseating it is to think about Obama engaging in this kind of playful affection with his wife after having been in the back of a limo with Larry Sinclair.

    Tit-for-tat, since both accusations are equally unsubstantiated. If you don’t like hearing people say things about Larry & Obama, then lay off the Clinton hate speech.

  • It appears as though the “Hezbollah style fist-jabbing” comment came from a commenter, and not Cal Thomas himself. The comment was removed from the humanevents.com, but remains in the Google Cache.

  • He should have been satisfied with a laurel, and hearty handshake…

  • To “Mary #33″……………..

    Ewwww!

    Go Away.

    That was a gesture of absolute sweetness between two people obviously in their own moment, inside our larger one.

    Stop with the nastiness.

  • Worked up and wigged out Wingnuts like Thomas.

    What can you do about it? Can’t take em off behind the woodshed and give em what not.

    So sometimes its best to ignore them.

  • Well, Mary, the Big Dog has admitted, in highly publicized comments that humiliated his own wife one more time, that he had sex multiple times with Monica Lewinsky and Gennifer Flowers while he was married to Hillary.

    (Am I forgetting anyone else he acknowledged?)

    So there’s nothing “unsubstantiated” about the simple fact that Bill Clinton is a cheater. If aristedes takes the words “all of those” out of the post and leaves “other women,” he/she is dead on.

    You, however, seem to be developing an obsession about the very unsubstantiated claims of Larry Sinclair. Here you are over at Washington Monthly getting off the topic yet again. (The thread is worth everyone reading for the hilarious contributions of “Barack.”) It’s fairly creepy, girl, how much this wacky guy’s accusations seem to occupy your thoughts. Please tell us they’re not fantasy material for you late at night. Please.

  • I thought it was a nice personal gesture between two people. Not as vainglorious or silly as a high five.

    Then it takes an uptight MSM person to read something stupid into it. Hey Cal, loose the stick up your ass because it’s starting to affect your thinking.

  • Sorry “getting off the topic” should have been “getting off on the topic.”

    Sorry, too, for the mental image that evokes. Here’s some mind bleach, compliments of the DNC.

  • Of course, the real question is, ‘Was the dap wearing a flag pin?’

    If he is going to waste his imagination thinking about Bill with other women… -Mary

    aristedes need not employ his imagination to remember the history of President Clinton’s infidelity.

    Tit-for-tat, since both accusations are equally unsubstantiated. -Mary

    Are you actually arguing that President Clinton’s well documented and admitted infidelity is as unsubstantiated as the baseless rumors concerning Sinclair? Maybe if you were comparing Hillary’s supposed lesbian relationship to Obama’s supposed homsexual relationship, I’d have agreed, but Bill Clinton’s exploits are not fiction.

  • Hey Two Trolls Down –

    Are you an example of the political CHANGE promised by Obama?

    Wow, can’t wait!

  • Linda in Oregon — that was my point exactly. Stop with the nastiness. There was no reason for anyone here to make comments about Bill and Hillary’s relationship and Bill’s supposed philandering (as unsubstantiated as the rumors about Obama). There is no reason for that kind of thing here any more.

    Obama and Michelle have no more private moments. That is the price one pays, just as Bill had no private moments, even in the white house behind closed doors and between consenting adults. To me, the Obama moment looked scripted and calculated, not spontaneous, but I’m not drenched in the wonderfulness of Obama. I privately hope Obama doesn’t have to win the presidency in order to “get lucky,” because that’s more consistent with my idea of what love is. But, to each his own. Just stop kicking the Clintons when they’re down. It is too mean-spirited, even for you guys.

  • Doubtful, new rumors of Bill’s infidelity are just rumors. There is no reason to believe them, no proof of anything. Just an ugly Vanity Fair article.

    Obama and Michelle have both admitted to hard times in their marriage. It isn’t as if they’re not human beings in the same sense as Bill and Hillary or anyone else. Obama has his own rumors and he is as vulnerable as Bill Clinton on that score, so stop the garbage slinging. As I said, the primary is over and there is no excuse for it any more.

    I believe that as an extremely popular and effective former president, he is an asset to Obama in campaigning, but not if you continue to trash him. I think we owe him for his public service and I find it majorly distasteful when you guys show the extreme lack of respect for his accomplishment I have to read here nearly every day. What is WRONG with you people?

  • I am going with Linda(#36) on this one it was sweet. I have been doing the same thing for years. I am not black. It is childish gibberish from the unhinged right.

    But what I find the coolest about the whole thing is that for them it represents how they met. Yes, thats right. They met at the world rock, paper, scissors championships.

    http://cheflovesbeer.blogspot.com/2008/06/barack-paper-scissors-where-barack-met.html
    It has a link to a reuters article.
    http://blogs.reuters.com/oddly-enough/2008/06/04/barack-paper-scissors/

  • It was as much positional as anything else as one was turning and the other moving forward. Hardly anything to make a big deal over. A happy congratulatory moment of recognition.
    I hope this theme that Obama is running as a “black man” instead of just a person who happens to be black doesn’t turn into a republican talking point to push racism.
    Running as a black man as if they are not Americans and citizens and people but some dissident group. As Obama says, he is an American.
    How many times have you seen the press say “he’s running as a white man” about a white candidate? So why frame Obama as running as a black man?

    I suspect the repukes will try to frame our candidate as a black man first rather than as a man first and running as a “black man” suggest running for a special interest rather than all the voters. Just saying…

  • [d]oubtful, new rumors of Bill’s infidelity are just rumors. There is no reason to believe them, no proof of anything. Just an ugly Vanity Fair article. -Mary

    aristedes mentioned nothing of new rumors. This is what was said:

    …every time I see Bill touch Hillary, I think of all the other women he’s “touched”…

    Which you said was an unsubstantiated accusation. That is a lie. Bill Clinton himself has admitted to having sexual relationships with at least two women: Genifer Flowers and Monica Lewinsky. Are you calling Bill a liar?

    You’re trying to change the subject now and imply that aristedes said something they did not and you claimed that Bill Clinton’s infidelity is fiction. That won’t fly here. You can rail about the appropriateness of the comment, I don’t care. But don’t make up your own facts or put words into other commenters editing box.

    Are you an example of the political CHANGE promised by Obama? -Everett

    Yes, Everett. Two Trolls Down is a personal project of Obama’s. He’s been training that commenter for nearly 11 years now, and has unleashed him on you.

    Let’s be mature enough to separate blog commenters from the candidates.

    I certainly don’t attribute every unhinged, crazy thing Mary has said to Clinton.

    What is WRONG with you people? -Mary

    The lying, racism, and ignorance for starters. It raises our hackles.

  • I think we owe him

    And there you have the entitlement mindset of the (fortunately) extreme minority of unhinged Clinton supporters. We owe him.

    Mary, public service is service to the public, not a guarantee of lifelong public adulation regardless of future events. The man did some good things as president and got plenty of props for them, as well as plenty of other rewards. He doesn’t get to run an open tab with us all the way to his grave, nor should he.

    In the last few months, he’s been an unguided missile, behaving erratically and harming his own wife’s campaign. (Since you love to make armchair analyses of Obama’s familial relationships, I’ll feel free to say here that Bill Clinton, with his demonstrable issues with women, clearly is highly conflicted about his wife’s success and almost certainly doesn’t recognize his own impulses to sabotage it even as he follows other, healthier impulses to support her.)

    He is quite simply not to be trusted on the campaign trail because of his emotional problems, which include a proven inability not to make himself the center of attention. Obama will use him wisely in a tightly monitored, very constrained fashion. He will not let Bill Clinton off the very short leash prescribed by Bill’s own comportment this primary season.

  • 1.) Anyone who thinks “fist bumps” are a “black thing” is old and out of touch. Get out of the house once in a while.

    2.) I think right wingers are attacking this because they’re scared spitless. Michelle and Barack obviously love each other, and enjoy each other’s company. For all its talk of “family values,” the right has a stunning number of multipley-married philadnering douche bags. It will be hard to paint Obama as anti-family when his family is so darn cute…

  • It will be hard to paint Obama as anti-family when his family is so darn cute…

    It will be nice to have smallish kids in the White House again. Hasn’t happened in my lifetime, other than Amy Carter, who always seemed kind of like a miniature adult. It must have been hard for her with no siblings anywhere near her age.

  • Hezbollah style fist jabbing! I love it! I couldn’t think of anything that funny myself.

    The gesture was more endearing than I expected from reading about it, really.

    And lay off Mary. If she says something that needs a response, sure, but the gloating is childish.

  • Matt:

    I think right wingers are attacking this because they’re scared spitless. Michelle and Barack obviously love each other, and enjoy each other’s company. For all its talk of “family values,” the right has a stunning number of multipley-married philadnering douche bags. It will be hard to paint Obama as anti-family when his family is so darn cute…

    [insert gold star here.]

  • OK, this is the kind of silliness that the press shouldn’t be spending time on (except maybe on Fridays) but, if we’re going to talk about it…

    As someone who is fairly conservative when it comes to marriage (sow your wild oats *beforehand* but, once you make a commitment, try to stay that way), I thought it was wonderful to see a married couple so much in tune with one another. I think, as the First Couple, they’ll be a very good role model for kids.

  • Jeez, people are crazy. I noticed when they bumped fists, and thought “Awwww…cute.” My next thought was “I wonder if I’m going to be reading about this?” And…here we are.

    Cracker Republicans from places like my home state of Kentucky often feel threatened by the most ridiculous things. Yet they voted for Bush in *droves*, all because they saw pictures of him praying and felt they were looking into a mirror. Obama has ’em runnin’ for the hills. We should all expect the hills to be alive with the sounds of yowling idiots for the remainder of this election, as well as the next 8 years under President Obama

  • Oh, Mary, Mary.

    How much do you know about Bill Clinton’s past and his myriad affairs? These are for your reading pleasure:

    http://www.capitolhillblue.com/Feb1999/022599/clintonwomen022599.htm

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/special_report/1998/clinton_scandal/49771.stm

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/shadow061399.htm

    Bill Clinton has a long history of sexual “indiscretions” that certainly leads one to realize he has real problems with sexual addiction. His vehement response to the Vanity Fair speculations is strongly reminiscent of his many denials of sexual relationships with women during the years of his administration, only to discover that he was lying, even to his attorneys.

    Clinton’s womanizing, past or present, is hardly worth discussing, as I have done, if Hillary is not Obama’s Vice President. But compared to the Obamas, it shines as a pretty sleazy marital relationship that is hardly admirable.

  • “..Michelle is not as ‘refined’ as Obama at hiding her TRUE feelings about America — etc. Her ‘Hezbollah’ style fist-jabbing…'”

    Well, little they know about Hezbollah over there at Human Events.

    EVERYONE knows that Hezbollah celebrates with:

    the flying side bump,

    the Booty Drop,

    the Pizza Dance,

    the Sprinkler Dance,

    and, of course, that old stand by, “Raising the Roof”.

  • O for crying out loud. The dap / fist bump is used by baseball players at all levels — just watch a game. Heck, our old-fat-and-slow softball team players do the dap when getting to first. Sometimes a dap is just a dap.

  • but 2Manchu, only the men do that. Hard to “raise the roof” effectively in a burka.

  • I though it was sweet.

    Another sign that this is a generational thing.

    FWIW, he pats her butt quite often. First time I noticed it was after the NH primary.

  • This is a Big Deal for:

    Anyone who gets the majority of their news and impressions of the candidates from the MSM.

    Anyone who makes their decision based upon perceived character.

    Obama has a bit of a brand problem – too intelligent – because he speaks so eloquently. Being affectionate and genuine in public is a good antidote to that perception. It moves him closer to the person you’d enjoy having a beer with – someone fun, less serious, approachable – something John Kerry’s handlers could not overcome.

    If you don’t buy this please read Drew Westen’s ‘The Political Brain..’

    After that read the entertaining and enlightening book ‘Made to Stick..’ by Stanford Business Professor Chip Heath and his brother Dan, a corporate education consultant.

    They expand upon Westen and make the brilliance of the Obama campaign obvious.

  • I’d much rather see this than the disgusting display of man bump Bush did with that poor cadet.

    THAT was creepy – and not in a parents kissing kind of way but in a Bush getting hard kind of way.

    Ick…brain bleach, please!

    I’m a 48 YO white woman and I’ve done da dap (not knowing it had an official name, mind you. Damn, I am so not as cool as I thought I was.) 😉

  • I predict Michelle Obama will become one of the most important and beloved first ladies ever.

  • They’re kids probably told them to do the first bump thing. It was calculated. I like Obama and will vote for him. But they are smart people, very smart. And it was a subtle way of appealing to the youth vote. It looked fairly natural. But they are both parents, in their 40’s and Ivy League grads.

    You can’t be cool at that age. No matter who you are. It was staged. Politicians do that.

  • OMG to post number one: Are you KIDDING ME? Wow, there really are a lot of nutty people out there.

    I have worked in an urban black community for years as a teacher in a high school. I can tell you that you are totally paranoid on that one bro.

  • Oddly, it was one of the more memorable moments of the night for me too. It was a genuine, affectionate and wholly unscripted moment, coming at the end of a draining campaign. I was struck by how much I was struck by it, but I think it does come down to seeing the two of them, while in the brightest spotlight possible, completely humanizing the moment. These are the moments and elements that underscore the uniqueness of BOs candidacy and flag a new era of genuineness, honesty and grace. I am a life long Republican, would consider myself immune to messianic appeal, but I am intrigued by Obama’s mastery of the moment. He commands respect in his presence, demeanor and intelligent speech. He doesn’t speak down to America in soundbytes or pandering taglines. He engages in discussion and has proven to provide level-headed and loyal responses. His genuine response to the Wright fiasco was entirely correct. The fact he did not throw his longtime friend under the bus, but, while properly distancing himself from the hateful rhetoric, explained about the Rev he knew that helped transform a neighborhood, showed to me a degree of maturity and plain adult judgement that calls out. Obama has the opportunity to lead by example from the top down and restore qualities in leadership we have not seen in a very long time.

  • Jazz, @65,

    Their (not “they’re”) kids are 6 and 9yrs old, for goodness sake; it’s highly unlikely they’d be advising their parents on what’s “cool”. Especially on what’s “cool” among young voters. 18yr olds (and older) aren’t likely to hang around “small fry” teaching them the secrets of “cool”.

    Anyway.. It wasn’t an exhibit of “cool”; it was a case of “love is in the air”. Of which emotion even 40-something, Ivy League graduates are likely to know something; I’m 58, my husband’s 83 (an Ivy League graduate), we’ve been married 35yrs, and I still recognize that look of perfect unity that flashed between those two.

  • If Aristedes is really dredging up the Monica Lewinsky & Gennifer Flowers stuff I just have to ask again, why? As I said, Obama and Michelle have also had their problems. Many couples do. Why should this be any more or less repulsive to anyone — in fact, why is it relevant at all when people are discussing a cute moment between Obama and his wife?

    I am sick and tired of the hate speech here. Bill Clinton had some affairs and that is no one’s business except his and Hillary’s and their relationship is solid despite it. Why is this any kind of issue — after the primary has ended? I assumed Aristede was referring to the Vanity Fair article because (a) it is current, and (b) what would be the point of digging up the old stuff? It never occurred to me he would be gratuitously throwing the old complaints into a thread where they are so irrelevant.

    No one asked you to think about Bill and Hillary in bed. Certainly, no one asked you to comment on whether being with someone else, EVER, diminishes the moment when you are with a different person. Many of us are serial monogamists. Do we get nauseous thinking about the former or subsequent partners of someone we’re currently involved with? If yes, you must be 18 yo because that’s just stupid.

    I see this as Aristede just grabbing a chance to say something ugly about Bill and Hillary Clinton. I will repeat. No new rumors have been substantiated. Even if they were, it is no one’s business now that Clinton is no longer a candidate and Obama is the presumptive nominee. Why even bring it up except to say something mean-spirited?

    Stop this. It hurts Hillary supporters and distances them from Obama and it damages Clinton’s value when he campaigns for Obama. He doesn’t deserve it now, any more than he deserved it when he was in office. You make yourself sound like the worst Republican operative when you say that crap. Cut it out.

  • Aristede — so what? Hillary has stated that she does not want to be VP. You have no reason to be talking about Clinton at all. Leave it alone. Otherwise, we’ll all just have to assume you are jealous of him. Why else would someone be so obsessed with his indiscretions that he goes on and on about it, after the campaign has ended?

  • Miss Mudd,

    Motion carried on Michelle Obama. She’s smart, well-spoken, attractive, and experienced in law and community service. (The Jackie Kennedy-inspired look she’s been sporting lately looks damn good on camera.) She is one classy lady and will set some high standards and expectations for young women in this country.

  • aristedes, me too! There’s something immediately endearing about her, especially compared to Cindy McCain who seems to be channeling Leona Helmsley.

    Joepdx: glad you’re here. 🙂 With more of you coming aboard I’m convinced we’re going to do great things soon.

    cnnr: #1 is parody of #45

  • 61. On June 5th, 2008 at 5:23 pm, Erik in Maine said:

    FWIW, he pats her butt quite often. First time I noticed it was after the NH primary.

    Hey buddy, her eyes are up there ^ ^

    😉

  • Clinton didn’t say she doesn’t want the VP spot. She said, after it became apparent that some of her surrogates and Congressional supporters were trying to strong-arm Obama, that she’s not actively seeking it and that it’s Obama’s choice.

    If she definitely didn’t want it, I assume she knows how to say so. So Bill Clinton’s giant heapin’ pile of baggage is still an issue until the Clintons determine there’s no way to get her on the ticket without financial/personal vetting of both Clintons.

  • Mary

    LOL! I KNEW I could get you spluttering with that post — that’s why I made it. You’re incredibly predictable.

    Bill Clinton is a sleazeball when it comes to women. His “indiscretions” will go down in history because of his impeachment. You may not like it but you can’t change it.

  • You’re incredibly predictable.

    She really is. It’s just too hard not to keep poking her, especially when doing so can produce such fabulous stuff as the line about “hate speech” and the nonchalant acceptance of Bill Clinton’s skankitude (after her previous prissy avowal that she could never vote for a man with a trophy wife). A man with zero sexual scruples is off-limits for discussion if the woman he serially mistreats and publicly humiliates is Mary’s fave candidate. Gross, Mary. Gross.

  • Hey Arch,
    Maybe someday you and Mr. Jefferson can bump knucks……Wake up America they won and unless a major mishap occurs we will see a lot of this. Heck we may even see a better economy as well. Better yet the rest of the world may not look at the US as a bunch of gun toting cowboys that couldn’t trip through a speech with a teleprompter. We need to get past the stereotyping of even,yes, affectionate gesters of victory and see a PDA as what it was. Point of history…the high five was created by an alternative lifestyle LA Dodger in the 70’s, not that there’s anything wrong with that lifestyle. Turn off your color TV sets and listen to Obama, Bunkers 65% of us are ready for a great president with no factor of race accounted for!
    Meathead

  • I burst out laughing when it happened, and immediately called my sister in glee, because it’s something she and her husband (both 25 year old white kids from New York) do all the time. It’s great, whenever I see them do it there’s an underlying tone of “go team” or solidarity. They ‘ll even do it having settled who gets what errands on the weekend. And I know it’s something small, but it was the highlight of that evening for me, because I relate to that sort of partnership, having seen it in action.

    Definitely a good night.

  • To Mary Mother of Odds – Symbol of Black Power, Negro Fellows? overtake qualified white women? what planet have you been living on? or better yet what Rock did you squirm your way from under? People with your mentality is definitely why the WORLD is in the shape it is today… but remember what the bible says now… those who are last will be first and those who are first become last! so guess what? your days are definitely numbered! and from your insane comments you are scared to death. Get with the program sweetie cause you are not the only one who can see the writing on the wall, the days of privilege, and entitlement are soon coming to an END and not a day too soon. Laughing till I can’t see straight!

  • JaO

    Mary Mother of Odds is the Ghost of Politics Past and enlivens our hours by reflecting the persona of the wingnuts for our entertainment.. When it’s obvious which poster is the original or when new people come aboard and agree with her, we smile as we partake of our tea and strumpets (so to speak — a college friend thought until she was 20 that that was the phrase).

    So be not dismayed…

  • Mary, here ya go. A gathering of B.O.B.s (Bitter Old Bitches) from the soon-to-be defunct Hillary page. They need your money and your delightful input.

    P.U.M.A

    Seeyawouldntwannabeya 😛

  • Is PUMA some kind of deranged take off on cougar?

    Christ on a crutch. I am resigning the girl club.

    This is fucking embarrassing.

  • Wow. 80 entries about “The Dap.”

    So this is what a cult of personality is like.

  • Oh, dear. New PUMA “Dan Texas” shares his scintillating analysis:

    “BO wants to give up and let Al Queda win! He is not a good American, we have to bring BO down.

    “McCain isn’t going to appoint conservative judges, he’s very independent minded. He won’t appoint people who would overturn Roe v. Wade, we have nothing to fear.

    “I have great health insurance. People who don’t have health insurance will be Ok until we can get Hilllary in in 2012.”

    That last line might be one of the most coldbloodedly dishonest things I’ve ever read. This person is a piece of trash.

  • Seems to me Joanne, it’s another way to drain these poor idiots of their cash. Mob mentality and all that. I’m thinkin’ it’s the same crowd which showed up at RBC meeting last weekend. All 15 of em. As I said before somewhere here, we shouldn’t mollycoddle these people at all (esp. YOU Mary). They’re all tapped out & won’t contribute a dime, let alone phone bank. Still, it’s kinda funny they’re so gullible.

    Maybe I’ll start my own Hillary page! I could use some easy money.

  • “Wow. 80 entries about “The Dap.”

    So this is what a cult of personality is like”.

    So this is what offhand racism is like.

  • Aristedes:

    Oh! Oh! Can I jump in here and press Mary’s buttons too?

    Bill is clearly an untreated sex-addict as well as a raging narcissist. Some of the Clintons’ own people obviously think he has a major mental health issue or they wouldn’t be talking about having an intervention. And his angry response is exactly what happens about 95% of the time when someone is confronted in an intervention.

    Hillary is in a co-dependent relationship and is obviously suffering from some kind of emotional battered wife syndrom.

    Now let’s watch Mary’s head spin around.

    ** Sorry, ordinarily I wouldn’t make such an infantile post, but I couldn’t resist.

  • Hell NO Jo don’t sell the bike, you’ll need it to go vote. Just cough up your retirement funds. No wait. GWB already took that. Just sell your mama. We can go from there.

  • Barack and Michelle love each other, and it shows. I’m not clear on why some are actually attacking them for it.

  • As a white 60 year-old man, I didn’t think this column would have anything of interest to me. Until I read the 2nd line of the post itself and then some of the comments. I think this issue in microcosm represents the racial divide for which Obama ironically is the healing shaman. The dap should be something all not that important as a political symbol except that in the racially sensitive ground on which ordinary life is played out, it has. Because it signifies in the black community, it is a symbol which some high achievers in the African-American community are reluctant to demonstrate outside their homes or the privacy of their community. I’ve lived in DC for 30 years, a majority African-American community so of course, even as a white man, I’ve been aware of and a participant in the dap for years. Nevertheless, it was a major political statement that a husband and wife, in an historical moment with literally the eyes of the whole world upon them chose to recognize their own connection and emotional bond through the dap. It was deeply moving and liberating. Even though I am either 9th or 10th generation American on all sides and lineage of my ancestry (the last arrived in 1742) I can honestly say that I have not been fully and completely proud of this Nation, what with the plunder and battles of conquest that leaves the US in no sense able to complain about the Chinese acquisition of Tibet given our vainglorious acquisition of Florida, all of the southwest, California and most of the West in a worse way than the Chinese. Nevertheless, with a woman and an African-American man in contention for the democratic nomination, I am beginning to feel there is some hope for the redemption of the US for its multitude of sins under the GW administration and that is what the political process is all about. Go Barack.

  • #92 That just makes me cry. Poor baby ducklings. A few years ago, my teenaged son and I rescued most of a dozen baby quails when their (stupid) parents lead them across the street to a curb that was way too high for them to jump up and the chicks were too small for their wings to be working. None of the chicks would have made it… my son and I were able to gather all but two and place them on the ground above the curb with the parents. The other two chicks… yep, fell into the storm drain, just out of the reach of my son. He was very upset as was I. Stupid street engineers!

    As for the “dap” (that’s a new name for me) I thought it was a genuine sign of teamwork and affection between these two, who have sacrificed so much and put so much energy into this long campaign.

    #93: Yep.

    #90: MsJoanne – Don’t sell the bike!. Gas is over $4 a gallon thanks to our preznit’s close friendship with the Royal Saudi family… or is that despite of their friendship?

    (I sure hope millionaire Hillary buys that kid a new bike.)

  • #96 third sentence – “lead” should be “led”. Yikes.

    #95: Nice comment!

  • When I saw “bump”, I thought you were talking about polls. Obama now leads McCain in most polls nationally, sans Gallup.

  • Hannah says: (I sure hope millionaire Hillary buys that kid a new bike.)

    No kidding!

    That story, and it’s being repeated proudly, along with the others (e.g., the senior who opted to forgo her meds to support her candidate – don’t recall which one) was, to me, one of the most embarrassing things heard during this campaign cycle.

    To me these statements are indicative of everything that is wrong with elections in America (ok, not everything, the electronic voting machines are THE everything wrong, but I digress).

    Why would a multimillionaire be proud of this?

  • Actually, I believe you were right the first time. Apparently, Cal made the comment and later removed it from his article. (and I call it that using the loosest journalistic standards).

  • White kids do it too. And what about pretend toy soldire Bush chest-bumping WP cadets neanderthal style. Maybe Obama should scratch his nuts and pick his nose to appease middle America.

  • I think this issue in microcosm represents the racial divide for which Obama ironically is the healing shaman.

    ObamaForUS, Awesome statement there. I sure hope you’ll keep coming back.

    Hannah, I’m sorry I made you cry :((

  • 71. On June 5th, 2008 at 7:14 pm, Mary said:
    Aristede — so what? Hillary has stated that she does not want to be VP. You have no reason to be talking about Clinton at all. Leave it alone. Otherwise, we’ll all just have to assume you are jealous of him. Why else would someone be so obsessed with his indiscretions that he goes on and on about it, after the campaign has ended?

    Wow, who made you the thought police? It’s one thing to disagree with someone, no matter how awful & misguided your opinion are, but “You have no reason to be talking about Clinton at all?” You DO realize that you’re the Frank Burns on this forum, right? Your presence is noted as a source of amusement, but your opinions are considered about as valid as an old novelty Richard Nixon 3-Dollar Bill.

    In any event, aristedes had an excellent reason for bringing up Clinton. He feels that the Obamas show genuine warmth and affection for each other, and it’s probably because Barack isn’t as certifiably creepy as Clinton has been proven – PROVEN, BY HIS OWN ADMISSION, HIS OWN MEA CULPAS – to be.

    Opinions are like assholes, Mary, everybody’s got one. We’re just all amazed by the sheer size and and unfortunate shape of your…opinion.

  • For those of you who are not in the know…dap, fist pounding, etc. is not a black thing. If you watch any sports or mainly men in general who have accomplished something…let’s say as simple as a strike in bowling…their team mate will give them a pound etc…white or black. I think your ignorance below is exactly what is wrong with this country and you really need to re-think your part in the racism that exists in this country. I’ve never heard such an ignorant statement in my life and I hope to never hear it again. There is nothing to read in the symbol. There are beer commercials with not one black person on them, where there are white people pounding…but YOU know the code I guess. Get real or shut up!!
    . On June 5th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, Mary, Mother of Odd, said:
    How do you think this symbol of Black Power looks to your average red-state voter? That is, if your average red-state voter even recognizes the inherent danger! If I hadn’t been living in Chicago when it was 104% black, and if I hadn’t happened to overhear two Negro fellows talking as I made my way home from my favorite neighborhood bar late one night, I wouldn’t even know that this symbol is a secret promise between blacks to take over the world and oppress qualified white women. Fortunately, I’m on to these people now and I’m able to watch my back at all times.

  • Oh by the way…when Obama was in Virginia and bowled an awful game and the little “white” boy beat his score…Obama gave him pound, fist, dap, etc. That poor boy…I wonder if he knew that when Obama gave him dap it was because he’s planning on taking over the world…get real!

  • 106. On June 6th, 2008 at 10:36 am, JMT said:
    Oh by the way…when Obama was in Virginia and bowled an awful game and the little “white” boy beat his score…Obama gave him pound, fist, dap, etc. That poor boy…I wonder if he knew that when Obama gave him dap it was because he’s planning on taking over the world…get real!

    You see, *I* thought it meant he was going to “take” that little boy as he would Michelle. It’s all foreplay with those people…

    GERALDINE FERARO GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!

  • slappy, my friend, you are in need of an exorcism, a deferraroification. You can’t go on like this. You’ll weigh 102 haggard pounds night after sleepless night.

    On the other hand, writing parodies is very good fun. 🙂

  • Mary, Mother of Odd, Howie Mandell does this gesture, too. Does this make him a Black Power freak? NO! You are insane, thinking this is a dangerous gesture. It is hip and both blacks, whites and everyone all over the country is doing it.

  • I’m glad you guys aren’t taking this seriously, I’m having a good laugh at most of the comments here. 104% has to be one of the funiest things I’ve seen all week.
    Unfortunately, the rest of the planet is closely watching the people in your country who ARE taking the “Hezbollah” comments seriously. This abject lack of common decency speaks volumes about the USA’s level of social, racial and religious comprehension across the board. The clear implication is that black Americans are terrorists. The comment, not the gesture, is getting _global_ coverage.
    If such a misguided comment of this scale breaks the election chances of ANY candidate in ANY election ANYWHERE in the world, the USA would be the first to take the moral high ground and condemn it.
    Land of the free? Think again. My grandfather said to me today “this is how it started in 1936-9 my dear”. He should know, he lost his whole family…

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