The Chesapeake Primary — Overnight Open-Thread

Results from Virginia, Maryland, and D.C. were supposed to be available by now, but inclement weather led local officials to keep the polls open in Maryland for an extra 90 minutes.

We do know, however, that Barack Obama will win the Virginia primary fairly easily. With about three-quarters of the precincts reporting, Obama leads Hillary Clinton, 63% to 36%. Regrettably for the Clinton campaign, this was the contest she was poised to do the best in today.

On the Republican side, Mike Huckabee hoped to score the upset, and he fared well, but apparently came up short — with about three-quarters of the precincts reporting, John McCain has been declared the winner with 48.5%, outpacing Huckabee’s 42.5%.

As for the District of Columbia, with exactly zero precincts reporting, every network has apparently already called the race for Obama.

I’ll have plenty more in the morning. Until then, the floor is yours.

Obama seems to be destroying by even bigger margins than expected.

The Intrade contract for Obama has gone from 70% to 74% and the night isn’t even over yet.

  • I’m curious if anyone thinks it’s a little strange that Hillary Clinton has stopped acknowledging Obama’s wins. I don’t see how it helps her. Certainly she doesn’t want to admit defeat but to say nothing? I would think that saying something about it would actually mean that she cares a little about how the democrats are doing overall. I actually enjoyed hearing from her after the initial round of primaries and caucuses but now I’ve just come to expect her saying thank you to who ever set up the rally she happens to be at when she loses. It just seems like a waste of her time on national media.

  • Well, some people have argued that momentum from today will mean nothing March 4th, and others have argued that three weeks of media frenzy about momentum will have a huge impact. I guess now we get to find out the empirical way, after we all spend three weeks speculating.

    Me, I think there may be a silver lining for Hillary here. The smart spin is probably something like “Remember a year ago when *I* was the inevitable one? Anything can happen in politics, and momentum only lasts so long.” Or something like that.

    But ouch. Regardless of spin, camp Hillary has to be stinging from the quick trip from “inevitable Democratic candidate” to “possible running mate.” Maybe it’ll be good for them; shake them up and let them focus on winning rather than playing out destiny. And who knows, Obama may fall into the same “inevitable” trap going forward.

    What an interesting primary season it’s been so far, eh?

  • I hate to brag (actually, I don’t, I’m happy to brag :D), but I said right here on this blog just 3 days ago:

    So now he’s peeled off her A-A support, he’s starting to get as strong a strangle-hold on 35-50 voters as he has on under-35 voters, he’s making big gains with women, big gains with working class white voters, big gains with non-college-educated whites, big gains with hispanics and asians (44% AZ, early polls in WA suggested he lead among Hispanics and Asians in the state)…he’s poaching away Hillary’s base. Which is what, in theory, a successful “insurgent” candidacy would do, what it would look like. We’ve never really seen it before, which is why people are having trouble making sense of it.

    If there were some signs that Obama had hit a ceiling and couldn’t eat into her base anymore, I’d have more pause…but all signs point to his efforts getting more successful as the campaign unfolds. The results in Washington seem to make that point for me, no? And we’re past the “tipping point”, so to speak…I think Obama has actually taken a slight lead, in that his coalition is now, IMO, bigger than Clinton’s. However, his is still additive, whereas she is slowly draining support.

    So I smiled when I saw this:

    Exit polls: Obama stealing Clinton’s base

    (CNN) — Barack Obama did well with Virginia Democrats across both race and gender lines, and seems to be eating away at Hillary Clinton’s backbone of support: women.

    According to exit polls, Obama won nearly 60 percent of the female vote, a demographic that has carried Clinton to success in past primaries.

    Clinton even fared worse among men in Virginia – more than two-thirds chose Obama.

    Meanwhile, the Illinois senator scored his highest percentage of African-American support to date — winning close to 90 percent of that voting bloc. And the two evenly split the white vote as whole, even though in past primaries Clinton has held a slight edge among white voters.

    Obama even beat Clinton among Latino voters, a group that his heavily favored Clinton in most past primaries. In Virginia, Latino’s went for Obama over Clinton by 6 points. Though they were only 5 percent of the electorate there.

    The only demographic Clinton won in Virginia was among white women, who broke for her over Obama by 10 points. But that margin is significantly smaller than the national average on Super Tuesday. She beat Obama among white women by 25 points then, according to national exit polls.

    Go me. More importantly though, go Obama!

  • With all these victory speaches, Obama needs to think of something different to say. If I hear his “the wheels have fallen off the straight-talk express” too many more times, I”m going to stop listening to him just like I’ve stopped listening to George Bush.

  • Agreed, Marian. And he seems to be struggling some. He wants to “put tax cuts in the pockets of working people, like seniors.” Huh? He seems unusually uncertain and hesitant. And a lot of his taglines are seeming forced; the wheels-on-the-bus thing you noted and the yes-we-can thing both felt rote rather than passionate.

    I did like the whole “honor McCain’s service; he is an American hero; he does not belong in the White House” bit, though. That was a nice rhetorical touch.

  • Wow, has McCain ever sounded more contrived and hollow? I don’t believe that CNN had advance text of McCain’s speech, but there was a beautiful cut there from Obama saying “cynicism is a sad kind of wisdom” to McCain trashing Democrats/Obama for being optimistic.

    And please, Senator McCain, if you are going to say “Washington” this much, please drop the “R”.

  • To follow up Marian and Brooks, I think Obama does need to transition himself and his speeches to reflect his front runner status. Unfortunately, the “yes we can” stuff is so ingrained in his supporters that i fear it’s hear to stay. And it is tedious.

    For all the passion, positive and negative, that such a tight nominating race has brought out, it sure has taught us a lot about the candidates.

  • Brooks and TR… NICE! I agree whole heartedly. It really seems like McCain is unsure how to progress now that he is the nominee. Should he follow his instincts or try to contrast himself with Obama. That’s got to be tough. I look forward to the time that Obama says “it’s sad your party doesn’t know what torture is.”

  • I don’t get the complaints about how Obama is repeating lines from earlier speeches. So what? The percentage of voters who will actually listen to more than one of these is probably in the low single digits.

    This is like complaining that a band you heard tonight in Chicago played a bunch of the same songs last week in New York.

  • Just came back from serving as officer of elections in our little precinct in VA. The polls closed at19:05 (we had a couple of people come in before we locked the doors and before we printed off the results tape, so we let them vote). And I really don’t know how other precincts were able to start reporting much before 8PM. We had a fairly steady but not overwhelming turnout, 10 people working and we still didn’t manage to get things finished much before 8:30 and it was 9PM before the CAP finished their counting.

    Or precinct has 3200 registered voters. Of those, 1185 showed up and 47 sent in absentee votes (our CAP is in the same building as we are, so the results were announced shortly after ours). At my table — L to Z — we were equipped with two poll books (one for Dems and one for Repubs), two count sheets (ditto) and two stacks of numbrs. Green for the Dems (for hope and new growth and the green light set for “go”) and yellow for the Repbs (I guess for chickenshit and for “proceed with caution”).

    Of the 1185 who showed up, 844 voted in the Democratic primary and 341 in the Republican one. But it was evident that many Repubs voted in the Dem primaries, for whatever reason (nefarious or not). Of the 844 votes in the Dem primary, 574 voted for Obama, 261 for Clinton, 4 for Edwards and 4 for Kucinich . In the CAP, 23 voted for Obama, 10 for Clinton.

    In the Repub primary, of the 341, 229 votes were for McCAin, 82 for Huckabee, 12 for Ron Paul and 10 for Romney. There were some votes for Giuliani and for Thompson as well, but I didn’t write them down. And I didn’t write down the CAP votes for Repubs at all.

    We had to ask each voter which primary they wanted to vote in, and most people didn’t like to tell us (in VA, you don’t register your party affiliation). “Can’t I vote in both?” was the most common reply. I was sitting at the Repub pollbook (because we didn’t have not enough Repubs) and one reluctant woman said: “but will you still be as nice to me if I tell you I want to vote Republican?”. Which made both me and the woman tending the Dem pollbook burst out laughing.

    But the absolutely crowning point of the afternoon/evening came when a young man (mid-twenties, at a guess) said he didn’t want to vote in either Republican or Democratic primary. “I want to vote for Ron Paul”, he said, and was really upset when we told him that meant he’d have to take a Republican ticket. Some people are saying that prO-bamas are cultists… But, jeez… at least, Obamaniacs know which party he’s representing. This youngster seemed to think that Ron Paul operates in a vacuum.

    Also… A surprising number of really young people came out and most of them were alone, not with their parents. High school students, who aren’t even 18 yet, but will be in November, so have the right to vote in the primaries. Most chose the Dem ticket, but quite a few voted Repub as well.

  • AP reporting on huge Dem turnout in VA: “With 92% reporting in Virginia, Obama is now 102,000 votes ahead of all Republicans combined.”

  • w00t! w00t! w00t!
    Just wanted to say that I am VERY relieved and happy about this.
    (He gave a kick-ass speech in Wisconsin tonight, too. Loved that almost as much as I loved the results of all three elections.)
    And peep the demographics of the exit polls!!

  • TR, the complaint is that an orator or politician loses points when it feels contrived or rote. It’s more like complaining that a band you heard tonight in Chicago just played a tape of their New York performance. Bands aren’t expected to come up with new songs for each show, of course, so it’s not a great metaphor.

    I think it hurts Obama especially because of his reputation for inspirational and uplifting speeches. When he switches from passionately saying new things to sort of half-heartedly repeating taglines and slogans we’ve all seen on TV, it damages his reputation as a brilliant speaker. For me, at least. YMMV, of course.

  • I, for one, love the new McCain slogan: “No, You Can’t.”

    It’s only beat out by Romney’s call-and-response with “No, they didn’t.”

  • …some people have argued that momentum from today will mean nothing March 4th, and others have argued that three weeks of media frenzy about momentum will have a huge impact. I guess now we get to find out the empirical way, after we all spend three weeks speculating.

    Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. There are two more states holding elections next Tuesday (Wisconsin and Hawaii) with a total of 120 or so delegates up for grabs. I’m sure they’ll have something to say to the people of Ohio, Texas, Vermont and Rhode Island as well.

  • If I hear his “the wheels have fallen off the straight-talk express” too many more times, I”m going to stop listening to him…

    Day one. Day one. Day one. Day one. Day one. Day one. Day one. Day one. Day one. Day one.

    Puke.

  • Have we all become Obamaaddicts?

    Demanding a good shot of High Hopes or else….withdrawal symptoms start to appear?

    I really tried to resist for a while. I did.

  • The Republicans do too know what torture is. It’s having no choices other than Romney, Huckabee, McCain, Paul, Hunter, Thompson, & Guiliani, and knowing that complete control of all branches of government and the indulgence of their every whim had as its grand consequence the Bush-Cheney debacle and the rise to power of people like DeLay, Stevens, Foley, Cunningham, Vitter, Craig, Santorum, and assorted other cretins, fools, knaves, crooks, and incompetents.

    OK, it’s nowhere near the real torture that Bush and his various fascist-leaning (excuse me, unitary-executivist) advisers have turned into official US policy, but for now it will have to do.

    In the meantime, Obama got 63% of the vote in VA (with 94% of the vote reporting), and 76% in DC (48% reporting), and Maryland looking comparable, albeit with only 8% of the vote in). It makes me feel quite sad for Hillary. Not enough to actually vote for her over Obama, but she’s earned a lot of Democratic goodwill, and it’s got to be rough for her.

  • When you don’t want to queer the deal by talking yourself up as the victor before the battle is over, there’s only so many things you can say before you run out of material. Consider also that the candidates are tired from nearly non-stop campaigning. Finally, keep in mind that many people are hearing the speech for the first time.

    As someone pointed out earlier, Hillary has simply stopped acknowledging Obama’s wins, It’s not too hard to avoid saying the same thing twice when you don’t say anything. In her speeches Hillary – and all the rest, for that matter – has her own hackneyed talking points that she repeats over and over.

    There are always a couple of tag phrases that people rely on for as long as they’re getting a reaction. Remember George Bush’s “smoke ’em out” and “bring them to justice”? He carried on using those favourites long after it was clear he would do neither.

    I’d just as soon not see Obama stop winning, so that he’d have to come up with a new speech.

  • I really, really do wish that HC sounded more like she believes what she says. The others talk about Obama “speaking by rote” – did anyone listen to that pathetic speech she gave in Texas? Talk about a charisma deficit!! With all the talk about Obama and the teleprompter that the righties were bleating about, allow me to tell you that my wife – who used to be Diane Sawyer’s teleprompter operator and knows that stuff dead – said that was the poorest read of a teleprompter she had ever heard, it was almost like HC had never read the speech before and was just reciting it.

    She is indeed “all hat and no cattle” – and that line was soooooooo bad. As a former speechwriter, she needs to get rid of whatever semi-literate she has writing for her. They just don’t know how to string words together in any way that is other than soooooooooo predictable. Whatever she’s paying those folks in the writer’s room, she’s overpaying.

  • How is Donna Edwards’ challenge to Democratic imcumbent Al Wynn, MD 4th Congressional District, doing? Is there any website to go to for updated results?

  • It is a sad commentary on the state of Democratic voters that any criticism of Obama is seen as an assertion that Hillary is somehow “better”, even if she’s not mentioned at all.

    Hillary has her own faults, absolutely. And, when she falters in a debate I will be the first to say that she’s failing in an area that’s usually her strength. However, it is Obama who is known for deeply passionate, moving speeches. And tonight’s, to me, felt less authentic and more canned than his previous efforts that I’ve heard. Acknowledging that fact is just being honest, not anti-Obama partisan.

    Of course, many people are only interested in information that confirms their already-held beliefs. If that’s you, please feel free to read this post as wildly pro-Obama, pro-Hillary, anti-Obama, or anti-Hillary as you prefer.

  • what an Obama love-fest this has become, I just hope that if your boy wins the nomination that he can win in November, he hasn’t begun to feel the pressure from the far right yet.. HRC is battle tested.. and IMHO better suited to fend off the attacks.

  • ‘Cause he’s got high hopes
    He’s got high hopes
    Nineteen Sixty 2008’s the year for his high hopes.
    Come on and vote for Kennedy Obama
    Vote for Kennedy Obama
    Keep America strong.
    Kennedy Obama, he just keeps rollin’ – a –
    Kennedy Obama, he just keeps rollin’ – a –
    Kennedy Obama, he just keeps rollin’ along.

  • HRC is battle tested…

    If this were true, she wouldn’t have to beg for delegates from a state in which Obama’s name wasn’t even on the ballot.

  • Amazing streak Obama has going. If he keeps up these margins of victory, there could be a chance that Ohio, Texas, and Pennsylvania start to flip his way. Maybe it won’t be true victories there (we are just too far out to know for sure), but if he can eat up enough delegates in those 3 stats, she’s absolutely history.

  • AP reporting on huge Dem turnout in VA: “With 92% reporting in Virginia, Obama is now 102,000 votes ahead of all Republicans combined.”

    I love hearing about turnout like this. It’s satisfying to know Democrats are creating participation in the process almost orders of magnitude above the Republicans.

    But we shouldn’t get too excited over statistics like these. I have a feeling that while a lot fewer Republicans are caucusing/voting in the primaries than Democrats, they’ll be out in droves for the general, and it will be inevitably be a close race. Republicans seem to have no problem with the herd mentality — heck it seems to be a bedrock principle of the party — so I’m not surprised that a lot of them don’t care that much who their nominee is, as long as he has an (R) after his name. We’ll see.

    Eyes on the prize…

  • Demographics are not destiny, but I don’t think it’s “momentum” so much as Obama fine-tuning his pitch to appeal to new groups, and doing so effectively. And so the question becomes, are working class whites and women and older voters and hispancis in Ohio and Texas going to be as receptive to Obama’s new messages as they were in Washington, Virginia, and Maryland?

    Oh, and yeah, for us, that stuff is repetitive, but c’mon, the McCain talking points from Obama are about 10 days old, which means people in Texas and Ohio probably still haven’t heard them, the Potomac Primary was a 30 second after-thought on the local news here in Houston, and people in Wisconsin and Hawaii are just hearing them now for the first time.

  • So let me get this straight: Hillary can’t out-campaign Barack Obama in a Democratic primary, but she’s gonna do better than him in a general election. It’s becoming increasingly clear that she’s simply inferior at appealing to people inclined to vote Democrat in the Fall, so the only way that makes sense is if you think she’ll do a better job of appealing to Independents or Republicans, which seems, well, absurd.

    I mean, it’s all out there already: Rezko, drugs, his kindergarten essays whatever else. Nobody seems to care, b/c its all B-league stuff. I mean, really weak stuff. Hillary tried to go real negative on him, and he effectively both counter-punched and made her pay a political price for it. As hilzoy noted over at Obsidian Wings, if the Russians have chemical weapons, that doesn’t mean we need chemical weapons; it means we need gas masks, resistant suits, deterrents to using chemical weapons (and our own wouldn’t be very good deterrents, since they tend to waft around and kill everyone indedescriminately). Good analogy. Hillary being a good attack dog won’t deter the GOP from going after her, and being a good attack dog isn’t what you need to counter-act negative politics. You need someone who can neutralize those attacks, effectively counter-punch w/o looking negative, and make the opponent pay a political price for his/her attacks. Obama has shown a pretty good ability to do that; Hillary, conversely, has not.

    And the suggestion that Hillary has been vetted is laughable. If there are no more skeletons in her closet, why isn’t she releasing her tax returns? The whole Bill-is-in-bed-with-corrupt-dictator-and-corrupt-precious-metals-tycoon story never took off, but it’s a reminder that we’ve had 8 years now for the two of them to get into all sorts of stuff behind closed doors that’s been missed.

    What’s more, with the release of Hillary’s WH docs, we’re already seeing some odious stuff, like (I’ll see if I can find a link, just saw this today) the memo extolling the virtues for Hillary’s Senate run of Bill pardoning a bunch of hispanic terrorists. Yuck.

  • I agree that it’s too bad about Hillary – exactly the same way it was too bad about John Edwards, who had the misfortune to run against two historic candidates. Now it’s coming down to what it was always about, which is who can motivate the voters, make them get out and vote in record-breaking numbers, make them jealously defend their candidate.

    All three are great candidates, and both Hillary’s and Obama’s health care plans owe a great deal to John Edwards’ plan. If Hillary wasn’t up against Obama, she’d clinch it without breaking a sweat. But, she is.

    So, how is he building this swell of support? Is he lying? I don’t think so. Is he filling people full of false hopes? I don’t believe so. What is he doing wrong, that incurs the wrath of the Hillary Hopefuls in this bitter manner? Don’t you want to see the candidate with the biggest share of popular support win?

    I understand if it’s because Obama supporters can’t stop doing the victory boogie, and it’s getting on your nerves – but you’d be doing the same if Hillary were cleaning up, and you know it. People haven’t been this passionate about politics in a generation. This is good news for politics, and good news for democracy: it’s much harder to swindle people when they’re paying attention.

    I read both speeches over on WaPo, and I’d have to agree Obama’s was still better, even if he did repeat tag lines from previous speeches. Hillary also repeated the “battle tested, ready, make it happen” like a broken record. However, I noted that Obama promised college money to students only in exchange for substantial public service or measurable self-improvement, while Hillary sympathized with people who got “sucked in” to subprime mortgages. Hardly anyone got sucked in; almost all of them made a conscious decision to take advantage of what looked like a great deal, knowing full well there was significant risk involved.

  • HRC is battle tested..

    Greg – You keep saying that, but I have no idea what you mean. How is she battle tested? Could you please tell us what major political victories she won? And I don’t mean Bill, I mean Hillary. As noted earlier, she hasn’t had a real political opponent. She hasn’t fought for anything in the Senate. Obama’s even been in elected office longer than her. And admittedly, we haven’t seen many political battles from Obama either, with the exception of this well-fought campaign with Hillary. But you call him untested while she’s battle tested? While I do respect what Hillary has gone through, I have no idea what you’re talking about.

    Again, if Hillary’s battle testing is so good, why does she keep losing battles with Obama? For me, fighting off attacks is about the ability to get your message across, and between these two candidates, Obama seems to have done a much better job of that.

  • I haven’t heard Obama’s speech tonight (I did read it). But my parents, die hard conservatives, thought that it was exceptional and were moved when he spoke about his beginnings

    “I should not be here today. I should not be here today. I was not born into money or status. I was born to a teenage mom in Hawaii. My father left us when I was 2. But my family gave me love, they gave me an education, and, most of all, they gave me hope… hope that, in America, no dream is beyond our grasp, if we reach for it and fight for it and work for it.”

    I think we can think forget how moving his words are because we have been tuning in to most of his speeches. For my parents, tuning in for the first time, they found them to be moving and impressive. My dad even went so far to say that he would be OK with an Obama presidency. His words about Clinton……not as favorable.

  • I’m pleased to see my home state (VA) carry the day for Obama.

    (Sidenote: the last time I voted there in person was ’92, when I was an election officer at the ripe old age of 22. Turnout for Bill was pretty good that time around in my precinct.)

    Re: speeches: I think some people are a little too in-the-loop, and therefore too critical. Politicians necessarily recycle phrases and clauses from speech to speech, because it’s efficient, because their campaign might like the sentiments contained therein, and because relatively few people actually hear more than one or two speeches. If you do hear more than one or two full speeches at this stage in the game, you’re likely A.) a political operative, B.) a political junkie, C.) a bored representative of the media, or D.) a lonely person with too much time on their hands.

    So, yeah, you might hear a few stock phrases or applause lines. Politics and religion are built on them. Obama is still a mighty fine orator in my estimation (Edwards isn’t so bad, either).

  • I just hope that if your boy wins the nomination that he can win in November, he hasn’t begun to feel the pressure from the far right yet.

    Sure he has. He is successfully fighting off many of the right wing smear campaigns such as the claims he’s a Muslim or that he went to a Madrassa.

    Obama also had to fight off a number of Rove style smear campaigns from the Clinton campaign. Clinton played dirty and gave it everything she has, and Obama won. If you are tempted to respond by saying that Clinton isn’t as tough as the far right, then you are conceding that Clinton has no special skills against them.

  • When conservative hack Jamie Kirchick can make an actually persuasive case against you based on newly-found allegations of misdeeds, you haven’t been “fully vetted”

    The Open and Shut Case Against Hillary Clinton

    A key component of Hillary Clinton’s campaign message is that she would be tougher on foreign policy than Barack Obama. She has spent a lifetime constructing this hawkish image (see Mike’s excellent piece from last year on the formation of Hillary’s views on the exercise of American power), in full knowledge that she would have to neutralize fears of her being a radical peacenik if she ever wished to make a serious run for president. Remember last August (how can you forget?) when she chided Barack Obama as “irresponsible and naive” for saying he would meet with America’s enemies?

    If there is only one article that you read today — or this week — make it Debra Burlingame’s op-ed in the Wall Street Journal. It concerns the pardon that President Clinton handed out to 16 members of FALN, a Puerto Rican terrorist group that was resonsible for a string of armed robberies as well as 146 bombings that killed 9 people and injured hundreds in its quixotic fight for independence from the United States. Some 25 years before another, far more devastating terrorist attack on Lower Manhattan, FALN planted a bomb in the Fraunces Tavern restaurant which detonated during lunch-hour, killing 4 and injuring 60, it’s most infamous and deadly attack.

    This was truly the sleaziest of Clinton’s pardons (which is saying something). But it lacked the glitz and intrigue of the Marc Rich pardon, and perhaps for that reason, it is among the less notorious. But the FALN pardon was indisputably the worst. Rich, after all, was just another example of money corrupting politics. The FALN pardon was far worse; it represented nothing less than the surrender of American honor and prestige to terrorists for political gain. Its effect — in the midst of the African embassy bombings, the attack on the USS Cole, Khobar Towers et. al. — was to confirm Osama bin Laden’s declaration two years later that the United States was a “weak horse.” The U.S. Sentencing Commission, the FBI, the Bureau of Prisons and the U.S. Attorney all opposed the pardon. Even the terrorists themselves — who, after all, did not recognize the legal jurisdiction of the United States (the reason why they waged war against it) — did not request the pardon.

    How does Hillary fit into all of this? Well, she is the reason — the only reason — that the pardon was ever granted. She had a senate race to win, after all, in a state with over 1 million Spanish-speaking voters. Characteristic of White House thinking at the time was an email sent by an adviser concluding that the pardons would be “fairly easy to accomplish and will have a positive impact among strategic communities in the U.S. (read, voters).” One can already imagine the attack ads that the McCain campaign and the RNC are devising right now, if they haven’t produced them already. God forbid Hillary wins the nomination, they will be a welcome addition to the public discussion about who Hillary Clinton is and what ultimately drives her, lest anyone genuinely believe she’s in this because “It’s about our country. It’s about our kids’ future. It’s about all of us together.” I should admit at this point that I’ve been largely ambivalent about the Democratic primary, and have never understood the Hillary-hatred that drives the right. But, after reading Burlingame’s piece, how can anyone trust the Clintons in power? To use one of Hillary’s rhetorical flourishes when she questioned the honesty of General David Petraeus last year, that this woman would claim to be tougher than Barack Obama in dealing with America’s Islamist enemies when she and her husband sold out the country and its honor to a bunch of two-bit, Hispanic terrorists “requires the willing suspension of disblief.”

    yuck

  • The good news for Hillary is that she’s garnering many more votes than John McCain. The bad news is Obama is getting two to three times that many.

    Hillary needs to staunch the bleeding before Ohio and Texas. It may turn into the CW that Obama’s unstoppable by then if Wisconsin and Hawaii fall like dominoes. The much higher turnout for Democrats than Repubs means the electorate doesn’t want any more Republicans running the show. Hillary should start giving McCain the third degree so she starts looking like the one to unseat the Republicans. If not, Barack may really turn his attention to attacking the Repubs and then the press will start saying that the show’s over on the Democratic side and Obama has already moved onto the next race.

  • It is a sad commentary on the state of Democratic voters that any criticism of Obama is seen as an assertion that Hillary is somehow “better”, even if she’s not mentioned at all.

    Brooks @ 26 – What are you talking about? Did I miss something? Looking over the thread, I don’t see anyone accusing you of anything; at least not before that comment. And two people seem to have agreed with you, while TR simply explained why this isn’t that important. And I agree with what he wrote. Believe it or not, before tonight, I’ve never seen an Obama speech, and so everything was fresh to me. I knew he gave good speech and counted that as one of his key assets, but had only bought into Obama based solely what I saw on paper. His assets outweigh his liabilities, and as an accountant, that’s what I like to see.

    Secondly, this is just something you’re going to have to get used to until this mess is over (which hopefully will be sooner than later). I’ve found that if I don’t write something nice in a comment about Hillary, it’s assumed I’m a Hillary-basher. And that’s silly. I’ve defended Hillary Clinton ever since I stopped being a Republican thirteen years ago, and I might have to do so in the future. But in this war, the partisans take no prisoners. So I always try to sprinkle a nice thing about Hillary in my comments, which isn’t hard because it’s the truth. I’d rather not have to do that, but I do.

    So if any non-partisans don’t want to be accused of being partisan, you’ve just got to add some sort of disclaimer showing that you don’t dislike the person you’re criticizing. Especially as there are partisans who are certainly pretending to be non-partisan. Generally, they’re Hillary supporters who don’t want to admit that they like Hillary and that their criticism comes from an outside party…who happens to only criticize Obama and never Hillary. Or they just don’t like Obama and they like to mask their dislike in high-minded criticism. And so if you don’t want to be considered one of them, it’s just necessary to remind people in every comment that you’re not a hater. I know it might be annoying, but in warfare, there are few truly neutral countries. And as I said, hopefully, this won’t be an issue for much longer.

  • It makes me feel quite sad for Hillary. Not enough to actually vote for her over Obama, but she’s earned a lot of Democratic goodwill, and it’s got to be rough for her.

    Wish I could share the sentiment. But I don’t. I don’t owe the Clintons a living. They are mega-rich and beaucoup powerful. They’ve done absolutely nothing for me. You are being naive if you think Clinton is sitting in her posh suite in Texas crying in her white wine. Reality: she’s plotting into the wee hours on how to whack Barack in both knees.

    But all that is only half the biscuit. The real crux here is that these are transitional times. The democrat party needs to move on. The country needs to move on. And the world needs an affirmation that the American ideal can still provide a way out and a way up. It is going to take someone who oozes charisma and multiculturalism. Clinton can’t provide that spark. She is cruft. She stands in the way. The old world always does. Pity her not.

    Eyes on the real prize please….

  • I want to be clear: I’m not agreeing with Kirchick’s conclusions, because I’m not educated enough on the issue. But, the case he makes is, IMO, persuasive, and if I was the type of voter who would never look into the issue further, I could see myself being very persuaded by this. For one, whatever type of spin is put on this, it _is_ founded on factual events, and dovetails beautifully with pre-held reservations about Hillary from even some of her supporters, let alone swing voters, and the very qualities said to drive “Clinton Derangement Syndrome”. That is to say, even if this is little more than agitprop (which it very well could be), it’s devastating agitprop.

    So no, she’s not “fully vetted”, as this is the first time we’ve heard about this, to my knowledge

  • Michael @ 32:

    My complaint wasn’t that the content of Obama’s speech was repetitive. My complaint was that his delivery felt tired, and one of his strengths is in impassioned speaking.

    Sure, McCain’s talking points were both flat and contradictory. He said that mere hope was useless in the face of the threat of terrorism, and then said the he relied on hope. He said that Democrats believe in enlarging government but didn’t comment on Bush’s huge expansion of the government.

    But McCain is supposed to be irrational and nonsensical. Obama’s strength, so far, has been making impassioned speeches that have an underlying logic and sense. To me, he failed a bit in both of those things tonight. It would be like if McCain mistakenly said he wanted a foreign policy based on diplomacy rather than force: a night where he wasn’t in top form in an area usually considered to be his strength.

    I’m really bummed by how highly partisan this Democratic campaign has gotten. We have two good candidates. They both have made and continue to make some mistakes. There’s nothing wrong with acknowledging that, and there’s absolutely no need to be vicariously defensive on their behalves.

  • My mistake Brooks; I misunderstood. I didn’t see the speech (I’ve stopped watching precisely because they come off as repetitive, lol), so that could very well be true. They’re raving about it over at Matt Yglesias place, so the thought didn’t really occur to me that was the source of your complaint. My bad. I also hope I didn’t come off as “viciously” defensive, at least towards you. I should’ve made it clear that my post at 34 was aimed towards the post at 27, and were meant to be forceful but not vicious.

  • Ah…I’m on a punch of opiates right now, so that might explain my repeated blunders, lol

    Damn I’m slow tonight.

  • I think it was a great night. Anyone who finds Obama’s speech tedious doesn’t know what stump speeches are all about. For each audience, it’s a thrill. If you’ve seen it three times it’s tedious, but it isn’t meant to be seen/heard three times. I’m amazed that he can make something he’s said thirty times or more exciting for the crowd he’s addressing (and me, too). We are witnessing something which comes along once in a long generation if we’re lucky. Enjoy it while it’s here.

  • @43,
    I’m sure she is doing just that. That’s part of the job of being a politician. Also, I agree that we don’t “owe them a living”. Nonetheless, she’s taken a lot of abuse from Republicans over the years and not a little grief from her husband, but she continues to soldier on for Democratic causes (albeit DLC-Dem-lite, etc., etc., and not always getting things right). I am very grateful to the Clintons for providing an oasis of democratic success in the middle of otherwise two decades of republican regression at the presidential level.

    I also agree with the advantages of moving on from the Clintons and bringing the “average voter” back into a re-energized and newly idealistic Democratic fold, which is why I’m putting my hopes on Obama. Nonetheless, if he were to lose, I’d get behind Hillary (albeit with much less enthusiasm), as she would still be light-years better than any Republican president.

    Eyes on that prize, too, please.

  • AP reporting on huge Dem turnout in VA: “With 92% reporting in Virginia, Obama is now 102,000 votes ahead of all Republicans combined.” — Will, @31

    Please remember that, in VA, we have open primaries. That is, we do not register as Dems, Repubs and Indies, and we re allowed to vote in whichever primary we wish, as long as it’s only the one. So, today, Repubs could vote in the Dem primary if they so wished. And many of them did. That does not, necessarily, mean that they’ll vote for the Dems in the general. In fact, I’d bet that most of them won’t; they’ll vote for the anointed Repub, as they always had.

    I think, given the Repub rule of “winner take all” in regard to delegates, McCain is pretty much a forgone conclusion as the nominee. So, from now on, all the open primaries need not only to be watched but allowed a bit less weight than they might have had otherwise, vis the future (ie the general). With McCain more-or-less crowned, many Repubs will freer about meddling in ours. Not because they’re for Obama, but because they’d like to have an influence on what we end up with.

    I’ll take every delegate Obama can get towards the Dem nomination, even from such flawed primaries, but it behooves us to remember that some of those primaries *are* likely to be tainted by “outside influence”. And that some of those votes will not materialize, come November. Yeah, I hear a lot of noise, from the more moderate Repubs of my acquaintance, about Obama’s acceptability. But. They also think McCain is equally moderate and acceptable and they’re used to voting Republican, when push comes to shove.

  • I saw this over at OpenLeft:

    From the Obama camp:

    Before today
    1031 Obama, 944 Clinton; 87 Delegate lead

    Beltway Tuesday
    124 Obama, 44 Clinton; +80 delegate to Obama

    Tomorrow
    1155 Obama, 988 Clinton; 167 Delegate lead

    In order for Clinton to take the lead here, she has to roughly win 60% of the remaining pledged delegates.

    Hawaii and Wisconsin still to vote. Jeebus, 94 delegates between the two of them, Obama could be up by 200 pledged delegates going into March 4th. I mean, I drove all the way out here to Texas to volunteer and organize in CD-17 b/c I thought it was THE DAY, but damn, it’s getting pretty damn near out of reach for Hillary now.

  • The democrat party needs to move on.

    RollingFloorLiberal @43 – Was that just a typo or perhaps an accidental slip-up by a GOP plant? Around here, we’re the Democratic Party. It’s only in Bushland that there’s something called the Democrat Party. Not a big deal, but let’s try to keep our party name straight. Thanks.

  • I’ll add my opinion that a lot of the anger directed by Democrats at Hillary and the degree of the objections to her candidacy from the left reflects the success of the relentless Republican attacks on her over the years. She has too much baggage, but it’s largely not her fault. Those of us not favoring Hillary often complain that she’s as polarizing and divisive, but she isn’t. She has always put an insane amount of effort into being mild and pleasant and accomodating and triangulating. How is that “polarizing”? If you want to see what deliberately divisive and polarizing really looks like, go pull DeLay or Santorum or Gingrich or Rove or Limbaugh, etc., etc. out of the cesspool for closer inspection. She’s only “polarizing” because Republicans have made it that way. (But they succeeded, and perceptions become reality, so now she does have high negatives that are a drag on her campaign.)

    The extent to which we (Democrats) buy into negative Republican memes bugs me a lot. We do this repeatedly, at all scales. Durbin makes a criticism of Bush’s Iraq operations or whatever, or MoveOn.org criticizes Petraeus, the Republicans generate a blast of fake distress and faux-outrage, and suddenly Democrats start backpeddaling and allowing as to how those folk went too far, or were foolish in saying something that they should have known would be so provocative. More seriously, after electoral losses in 2000 & 2004, too many Democrats seemed far too ready to dismiss Gore and Kerry for being weak candidates and bad choices, when, objectively considered, they were on the whole very good candidates who were done in by relentless distortions and lies that were happily echoed by the media until there was no room left for more realistic viewpoints. They weren’t perfect candidates, but then politicians are human and so have some weaknesses and failings and can never be as perfect and infallible as we insist that they be. Still, Democratic negativity toward Gore and Kerry after their defeats seemed well in excess of what they actually deserved. Republican criticisms get so loud and relentless that they sort of seep into everyone’s mindset and miscolor our perceptions, even when we should know better. Heck if I know how to fight it.

  • To follow-up on what libra @52 said, Texas also has an open primary. Or at least, anyone can vote in it as long as they didn’t vote in another primary or attend the Republican convention. And so some of this cross-over vote could come into play here too. But honestly, if these people were smart, they’d have supported Hillary. If nothing else, they want this to go all the way to our national convention, with us duking it out the whole way; while McCain rides easy street. So if they were smart, they’d have voted for Hillary. But if they were dumb and just hated Hillary, they’d vote against her. But a vote for Hillary is a vote to get to keep beating her up, so maybe they’d have thought it all the way through that. But whatever it is, if people are crossing over to pick Obama, that’s going to hurt Hillary here too.

    Beyond that, I really do think Obama has the cross-over appeal. Everyone hates Bush. Everyone. Even the people who won’t admit it to themselves. They’d be just as happy if the last seven years never happened and everyone forgot about the war. And while old habits never die, I strongly suspect that a lot of people who voted for Bush are going to want to turn the page and forget that any of that crap ever happened. And the best way to get that is through Obama.

    Now, I don’t expect to see 50% or even 15% of these people to cross-over, but it doesn’t take much. Virgina’s already going blue, and a 5-10% pick-up by Obama could make all the difference. Even in the worst of times, the Bushies could barely steal the election. I don’t think this one’s even going to be close. Anyone can naysay me if you want, but pessism doesn’t sell candidates. I remember people naysaying that we’d ever win Congress back too. But I didn’t doubt it at all.

  • I’ll add my opinion that a lot of the anger directed by Democrats at Hillary and the degree of the objections to her candidacy from the left reflects the success of the relentless Republican attacks on her over the years. She has too much baggage, but it’s largely not her fault. Those of us not favoring Hillary often complain that she’s as polarizing and divisive, but she isn’t. She has always put an insane amount of effort into being mild and pleasant and accomodating and triangulating. How is that “polarizing”?

    um…that’s what I thought before Bob Kerrey, Shaheen, Bob Johnson’s Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner line (with Hillary right there, on stage, smiling…and later defending him), Bill’s “Jesse Jackson” comment, and of course, the anonymous Hillary aid who said post-SC that Obama is now the “black” candidate.

    Not polarizing? Really?

  • How is that “polarizing”? If you want to see what deliberately divisive and polarizing really looks like, go pull DeLay or Santorum or Gingrich or Rove or Limbaugh, etc., etc. out of the cesspool for closer inspection.

    Bill and Hillary have played that same game for years, right beside those you complain about. Look at the difference in temperment. Hillary says “It took a Clinton to clean up after the first Bush, and it may take a Clinton to clean up after this one.” Obama says “John McCain is an American hero… but his policies don’t address the real problems of the American people” Is it really so hard to see the difference there?

    Now, there are legitimate reasons for supporting Hillary and opposing Obama. Heck, Obama’s Mr. Nice Guy approach might get his ass kicked in the general. But if you want to bring “polarizing” into it, you have to do some serious mental gymnastics to somehow exempt Hillary from the culture of demonization and tit-for-tat that’s been going on for too long, and which she has (often gleefully) participated in.

  • N Wells @ 55 – While I largely agree with you, I do think the Clintons made one gigantic blunder when they took office. It’s my understanding that they didn’t attend the right parties or pay respect to the right Village elders when they moved into the Whitehouse. And that was the biggest mistake they could make. It’s unfortunate, but our capital is infested with a clique that views D.C. as their own personal social circle. And there can never be a bigger offense with these kinds of superficial twits than to diss them. After all, appearances is all they understand.

    And the Clintons came in and brought their friends with them and didn’t fit in, and that just wasn’t right. Republicans had controlled the Whitehouse for twelve years and D.C. had just become accustomed to how things were supposed to be. After all, one of the big Clinton “scandals” we wasted taxpayer money on was Travelgate, where the Clintons had a problem with the people in the Whitehouse travel office and cleaned house. Unfortunately, the media were friends with those people, and so it became a front-page story that had to be investigated endlessly. But that’s just how it goes with these kinds of people. They’re too shallow to be partisan or ideological; they just like to socialize.

    And that’s why they hated Al Gore. They could diss him in ways that they never could with Bill. At least with Bill, he was smooth, but with a BS-y kind of charm, so that even while you were impressed by him, you still felt like he was up to something. And so they never could hurt him. But Gore was a Boy Scout, and so they had tons of fun beating the tar out of him. And in the process, it made them like Bush, who not only was a hometown favorite, but he also had a certain BS-iness to him, though without any charm. And so they liked that too and could hype Bush in order to pile on Gore.

    And so when Kerry came along, they were still in love with Bush, and so they had to punish Kerry. Plus, Kerry was boring and also had a kind of Boy Scout-ness to him that they disliked. No charm at all with that guy. But all the same, he never got attacked like Gore or Clinton did. Sure, they mocked him, but not nearly to the same degree. Were it not for the fraudulent terror warnings and some well-placed voter fraud, Kerry would have won.

    And so now we can have Obama and all that can change. Because he is charming. He’s interesting. He’s fresh. And best of all, he talks like he can socialize at parties with Republicans without anyone getting embarrassed by a heated discussion. They’ll love him and he’ll spice up their brain-free parties considerably. The Bush people have now overstayed their welcome, and the Village is looking for something new. And for as much as the media likes McCain, he’s old news. They’ll never forgive Hillary, but I predict the Village will firmly embrace Obama, and that will make all the difference in the world.

  • It comes down to a few words.

    Without vision the people perish.

    The Republican vision has been revealed to a great number of the ‘electorate’ (shorthand in political circle for ‘people’) for what it is – a vision that has not stood the tests of the past 7 years.

    Both Hillary and Obama have vision. Obama seems to have benefited from focusing on vision: Big (as in go ‘big’ or go home) vs. Hillary (fix our problems and fight bad people with correct policy).

    The difference is Obama seems to be resonating with ‘people’ because his ‘vision’ seems large enough to deal with the problems we face at the appropriate scale.

    This approach has come under scathing criticism from many in the Democratic Party.

    The brilliance of ‘democracy’ – small ‘d’ – is that a greater wisdom does emerge, despite the fact that educated elites feel they know better than ‘the mob’. The difference boils down to knowledge versus wisdom.

    I suspect that most Independents who support Obama feel there he embodies wisdom and Hillary is the embodiment of knowledge. It’s a subtle distinction, but then again, so are most tipping points.

  • Heck, Obama’s Mr. Nice Guy approach might get his ass kicked in the general.

    I don’t think so. First off, Hillary tried to go aggressive on him, and it bit her in the face. And that’s because he’s built a niceguy reputation that allows him to make the occassional jab without looking negative. And that kind of thing is actually much more powerful than the all-out assault that the GOP does. When you attack everything your opponent does, people stop listening. Even the wingnuts don’t even listen to themselves when they repeat the slurs. It’s the same kind of thing the Bushies have done with scandals: There have been so many scandals over the past seven years that they all blur together and you forget all the old ones. And so if McCain tries to play with Obama, he’s going to end up getting his nose bloody before you know it.

    But beyond that, McCain isn’t allowed to make any attacks. Bush never did. Bush always went out of his way to praise his opponent, while his thugs tried to cut him off at the knees. And neither Obama or Hillary willl be able to make direct attacks either, and so it’s not a handicap if Obama can’t directly be rough. All the really matters is if you can get your message out for people to listen to, and Barack can do that. Heck, as long as he keeps making good speeches with nice soundbites, the media will be glad to play it. That was one of the big problems for Gore and Kerry, because they weren’t great speakers. But news ratings will go up when Barack speaks, and even local news will be glad to have real news that is also interesting. And that’s how Barack will handle this. We don’t need a fighter, we need a lover. And people LOOOVE Barack. The wingnuts will naturally go apeshit, but nobody ever listens to them anyway.

  • Just in case you didn’t hear the most inspiring speech of the past 40 years:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrERVKkFSQ4

    When he spoke about the people I knew who gave their lives 40 years ago down south, the first time any candidate has spoken that way about those heroes, I was blown away and burst into tears at the memory of old comrades.

    Just watch it. This is JFK, MLK, RFK, all come back. I’ve never heard anything more inspiring, and I heard all three of those guys in person.

  • Oh fine, Tom. Be a show-off. Well I not only heard Henry Cisneros give a speech once…in person, but I also rode in the same airplane with him on the way to Houston. And that was before he was forever humilated during one of the Clinton witchhunts. So nyah! You oldies don’t get to have all the fun.

  • Good morning!

    Unlike some of you keyboard addicts (yep—I’m looking at the both of you, Tom and Doc), a few of us still require this little tidbit of a thing called sleep. I’ve been up for a bit, running through the news and watching the news, and the one thing that keeps coming back to me is from Obama’s speech in Wisconsin:

    “This is the new American majority. This is what change looks like when it happens from the bottom up.”

    I listen to those words—and I toss them around in my mind, and the name that keeps coming up is Howard Dean. Remember “The Scream?” Remember that guttural “barbaric yawp” he emitted—and then his campaign dried up and blew away like a tumbleweed?

    Well, it’s back—with a vengeance. But this time, it’s not from the candidate; rather, it is from the people that this primordial howl is heard. It is the grass-roots, and it is eerily reminiscent of Whitman:

    “I too am not a bit tamed,
    I too am untranslatable,
    I sound my barbaric YAWP over the roofs of the world.”
    (Walt Whitman, “Leaves of Grass.”)

    These words do not merely apply to a particular candidate this time around; they apply, instead, to each individual who dares to stand up and vote for that candidate. Each becomes not just a small piece of the all—they each become that all. Every single voter becomes Thoreau’s “Majority of One”—and in doing so, becomes part of a mechanism that, given time, patience, and a little nurturing, has the potential to restore not only the tattered remnants of America’s credibility in the eyes of the world, but also in the eyes of America itself.

    Such a restoration need not be exclusionary’ that’s what “building bridges” is all about. Each individual becomes that “Majority of One,” and stands up against the status quo. Another quote (from Whitman’s “Song of Myself”) fits aptly here:

    “I celebrate myself,
    and sing myself,
    And what I assume you shall assume,
    For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.”

    That is what Obama is all about—and it goes much, much deeper than JFK, MLK, and RFK. It goes directly to the heart of what the Founders were grasping at when they first chose to reject the rule of a distant King.

    It goes to the “ideal” of what America once was, and again can become….

  • Yep, can’t wait until another six months have passed and all these fairweather folks will be trumping up charges against Obama instead of throwing inconsequential dirt from eight years ago at Clinton.

    Honestly, I don’t see where Obama really will lead a ticket to a win. A mushy, useless health care policy, great positions with no real effort to impart them, a great voice but a willingness to work with and compromise on core ideals.

    Yeah, I know. And I voted for the guy.

    But he’s really not all that different than Clinton. Mushier, maybe. Not even willing to defund the war or defend Congress’s right to veto Presidential action.

    Can someone, I dunno, actually face Clinton’s policies and her actions, not someone else’s?

  • Honestly, I don’t see where Obama really will lead a ticket to a win. A mushy, useless health care policy, great positions with no real effort to impart them, a great voice but a willingness to work with and compromise on core ideals.

    Bush and Cheney won the last two, I think your standards for what it takes to lead a winning ticket are way too high. As for Obama, I’m really not sure he will be any different from Clinton in practice either. I was undecided for a long time, until probably right before Iowa. The difference for me is that I am pretty sure of what we will get from Clinton, and the Mark Penn school of triangulating government doesn’t appeal to me at all. Obama preaches some of the same junk and flirts with rightwing messages too often for my tastes, but I don’t think he is going to be any worse than Clinton and there is at least a chance that he could be much better.

  • I posted this in the next thread, but am going to repost it here. This exchange from HuffPo (on O’Rielly discussing how NBC is pro Obama and anti Hillary):

    hopemeanstruth (my comment: nice handle)

    … I must admit, I am a Hillary supporter but … regardless of who you support, you must admit that the MSNBC coverage has very anti-clinton and very pro-Obama. … I have turned to Fox News for the Election 2008 coverage (and I am liberal) because they have been the only media covering the democrat side fair.

    And the reply:


    You’re a liberal, huh? … Also, you give yourself away as a conservative troll when you say that Fox News is covering anything in a fair way and when you call it the “democrat” side and not the “Democratic” side.

    Go back to LittleGreenFootballs…i>

    This exchange, to me, proves what I have been saying for a while. Those who come here and post their over-the-top MY CANDIDATE ONLY rants are mostly trolls who are trying to divide and conquer US. Many of them do not have the mental capacity (e.g,, saying they are a liberal and for the “democrat” side – GAG!) to be able to pull off sounding intelligent, and hence more than likely liberal, but there are those who do it well. Hot Dog (one amongst many) from our own commenters here on CB comes to mind.

    It frustrates the rest of us to think that we are as intolerable as goopers. I don’t think we are. And we lose members of our community here for infighting. I think we are being played.

    I, and many of my liberal friends, will gladly pony up to the voting booth and vote for whomever the dem candidate is. What did the last poll say? Something like 74% of dems are going to do just that. With that said, why do we see such vitriol here by so many posters? Trolls.

    I am on TP alot and see it there daily. I think many of our troll population here are simply dem posers.

    Democrats united behind the dem candidate – no matter who that candidate is.

    Just MHO.

  • On a personal note, I’ve been voting since 1972 (PA, MD) and I can’t remember voting in a primary that hadn’t been effectively decided by the time my turn rolled around. What a treat.

  • Tom Cleaver said: “Just watch it. This is JFK, MLK, RFK, all come back.”

    It sends shivers down my spine when you compare the first African-American likely to be voted president with three assassinated national leaders.

    Please don’t.

  • On a personal note, I’ve been voting since 1972 (PA, MD) and I can’t remember voting in a primary that hadn’t been effectively decided by the time my turn rolled around. What a treat.

    Tell me about it. I’m in Texas and can’t remember if I’ve ever bothered voting in a primary, and certainly never thought my election day vote was worth anything but the symbolic value of showing the Repub win by one fewer vote. And that goes for Senate elections too. I see a day when Texas eventually becomes blue again, but until then, I’ll just relish this upcoming primary as a time when my presidential vote actually helped choose the next president. I think I’ll try to caucus too. I’ve heard such great things about them.

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