The continuing adventures of boring gay people

Guest Post by Morbo

Lots of articles are written about gay people, but the ones that probably most drive Religious Right leaders like James Dobson and Pat Robertson crazy are stories that portray gays as what they are – just plain folks.

The New York Times Magazine ran a piece like this last week. Benoit Denizet-Lewis’ article examined the mini-trend of young gay men entering into legal marriages in Massachusetts. The men interviewed talked about things like buying homes, raising children, having friends over for dinner, etc.

Yawn. It sounded familiar because it is. When my wife and I married 16 years ago, we talked about the same things — and then did them. Of course, launching our life together was meaningful and powerful for us and our loved ones, but the rest of the world just snoozed through it, and rightly so. We were simply starting down a well-trod path. I can’t even begin to imagine how many other couples were married on the same day we were.

I’m not shocked that many gay couples want to go down that path as well, and it saddens me that so many Americans are determined to block them. Consider R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, who can’t deal with same-sex marriage.

Oddly enough, Mohler picked up on one of the central themes of the article, writing on his blog:

Denizet-Lewis goes into great detail about the lives, loves, and expectations of some of these male couples. Some readers will want to look at the romantic details and see the similarities with heterosexual romance and marriage.

So far so good. Mohler even adds, “One facet of this story is how ‘normal’ some of these couples want to appear.”

But of course Mohler is a right-wing Southern Baptist, so it is an article of faith for him that while gays may want to appear normal, they are not.

The tragedy of same-sex marriage is not the awkwardness and strangeness revealed in this article, but the repudiation of that picture. That repudiation represents a great loss and confusion — but it also represents a violation of God’s command concerning marriage.

Awkward and strange? The gay couples profiled are exactly the opposite of that. As I said, they’re kind of dull. What is so strange about a same-sex couple going down to the mall to buy furnishings for their home? Why is that awkward?

Gays can’t win with guys like Mohler. If they play the field, they are branded as promiscuous and irresponsible. The Religious Right goes nuts. When they settle down and say they’d like to get married, they are accused of perverting heterosexual norms. The Religious Right goes nuts. Other than become straight, nothing gay people do will please Mohler.

I’d like to tell Mohler this: Gays don’t want to appear normal. They are normal. At the end of the day, many gay couples want what most everyone wants: a nice place to live and friends to hang out with. They want nice neighbors and a decent standard of living. They want a partner, someone to grow old with. Some want children. They want the same life, usually a rather routine and predictable one, that most of us take for granted.

So perhaps gay couples aren’t so “awkward” and “strange” after all. Maybe it’s people like Mohler who are.

And here we have the shifting goalposts of the anti-gay bigots, which fortunately are a reaction to the shifting opinions of the populace at large.

It used to be that assholes like Mohler could get their way just by harping on the strangeness and ickiness of gays and lesbians. As more and more formerly sheltered Americans realize that they know, work with, are related to, are friends with gay and lesbian people and that there’s nothing strange about them, this latest talking point had to emerge. Gays and lesbians are acting normal! That in itself is a perversion because we need them to be The Other!

It isn’t that we don’t still have a long way to go as a society on this issue, but this really is good news insofar as it reflects Mohler and his buds’ growing inability to get people exercised about this topic. Studies show that the biggest differentiator between acceptance and non-acceptance of gays is age–no matter how conservative, how religious or the race of the household they’re raised in, younger people tend to be much more accepting of gays and lesbians. This generation is really the bigots’ last chance, and Mohler’s nonsense is the bleating of someone who’s already lost the battle.

  • I’m completely sick of being demonized for my efforts to want to appear normal. Just because my demographic represents only ten percent of the population doesn’t mean I’m abnormal. What do people have against lefthanders anyway? We’re sinister, gauche, and maladroit. Just because we’re different.

  • You know they’ve lost the battle when the last election cycle (or two) was all about the FEAR of same-sex marriage but this time it is a totally non-issue. Do you think they even notice that the GOP no longer seems to recognize gay-bashing as a useful political tool?

  • My partner and I have been together for 22 years. We have always been the most “boring” couple amongst even our straight friends. You know the drill: Up early for work, at the gym by 6:00pm or on the sofa until 10pm, go to bed, get up, repeat. What scares the hatemongers about this is that once people realize we do that same things they do, want the same things they want, etc. we’re no longer those “scary” gay people. We’re just people. Like everyone else. This realization always, always renders those who push an agenda of hate, powerless. It takes a while but that’s what happens.

  • Hey, you wanna know what’s a really scary thought? It’s the concept of what those hatemongers do behind their bedroom doors. How many times does it come out about the affairs and abuse around those bent on preaching morals to others? It’s called the J Edgar Hoover effect.

  • I almost feel sorry for Mr. Mohler, there. He’s screaming himself blue over the threat of apparent normalicy, and all I can see is heads swivelling to look and very bemused people going, “What? That’s not sinister, it’s suburban.”

    It must be very frustrating for haters like Mohler to be up against an enemy whose most recent dastardly act is to get married, and then, instead of destroying the institution of marriage, uphold its finest traditions, right down to the white picket fence and the bickering over what to name the kids. It’s really cute watching him trying to puff wind into the sails, but I’m afraid his lung power can’t fight the overwhelming power of normal.

    It looks like the supposed Biblical prohibition against gay marriage is going to go the way of the prohibition against shellfish. It’s about damned time.

  • I’m sure the Reverend Mohlestor is just taking a break from being in full outrage mode over a cult that forced minors to marry and have children.

    Ha, ha! I made a funny.

    The tragedy of same-sex marriage is not the awkwardness and strangeness revealed in this article, but the repudiation of that picture. That repudiation represents a great loss and confusion — but it also represents a violation of God’s command concerning marriage.

    I bet my “stimulus” check that some knuckle-dragging bigot once lamented the awkwardness and strangeness of mixed-race marriage. The Mole is also airing the “Aping their betters,” claptrap that was (and still is) applied to African-Americans who dare to violate the stereotype of the ignorant shambling brute.

    If you try to play this game, you can’t win. Go to a Pride March or otherwise have fun in public and the TalEvan will find a picture of the one exhibitionist showing his ass and scream about the perverts corrupting the children (even if there were no children in the vicinity).

    Buy a house, go shopping, raise a family and otherwise just … live, and they have fits because … um … if … um … gay people don’t … run around in chaps and nipple rings … uh. We can’t tell who they are and protect ourselves from gay cooties! Shit, we’re not even supposed to go to a god damned baseball game. Remember how Billdo O’Reiled Up shat himself when some baseball team DARED to have a Gay Day when there were children in the ball park?

    It’s much better and far more satisfying to say fuck you and go about your life.

    Meanwhile, I’m adding Mohler to my list of jackasses who are most likely to be arrested for paying to engage in “Awkward and Strange Behavior” with an attractive man.

  • The hate mongers are never going to disappear completely. Their numbers will likely decrease inversely to the educational level of the general population, but a hard core will zealously worship the ignorance of the past indefinitely.

    Conservatism generally means an opposition to change, and I think psychologists are learning that the inability to accept change, behavioral variation, and to make adjustments in our thinking in light of new evidence, is a genetic imprint. Just as gay people are born that way so are many conservatives (many of whom are also gay) born with a rigid mindset.

    If the Republicans get what they so richly deserve this November (and I’m not convinced they will) a very Disunited States of America may be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century at last. Marginalizing the hate mongers and the culture warriors has to be high on the list of priorities for a new Democratic administration, and it won’t be hard to do.

  • That’s the problem; with our country being dumbed down hate will grow exponentially. Those who are different will be hated and more. Add the level of nationalistic pride (over what exactly, I’m not sure), and it is Nazi broth that just needs a little simmering.

    Hate will never go away and it will continue to be fueled with fire by people like this. Religion is not remotely about love, it’s about control. I fear for when that fails.

  • Ms Joanne,
    Jesus said he came into the world to give two new commandments: Love God and Love you Neighbor as Yourself. Some faith institutions/organized religion are about control, fear and power, but that’s not true Christianity (following the teachings of Christ).

    Otherwise I think we’re in agreement.

    Rev. Mohler is perhaps worried he is losing his audience (and his source of money!) and so of course has to fear-monger some more.

    Even my bush-supporting mother knows better than to believe Mohler’s garbage. (Of course it helps when two of her closest friends are an older gay couple.)

  • I’m actually from Louisville, Ky and know well the kinds of backward thinking that goes on there regarding gays and lesbians. Mohler is not alone when it comes to hateful religious leaders living in Ky. And Louisville is also home to Highview Baptist Church, where back in 2004 they invited all those Republican politicians to come and speak. My sisters both belong to that church and voted for Bush. Meanwhile, I’m a far-left lesbian living in San Francisco supporting Obama. My plan is to outlive my sisters and their political influence in the world. Ha! Take that, Mohler!

  • Despite how annoying all this is to someone like me (a boring middle-aged gay man who has been “married” to his partner for 32 years), I still find reason for optimism. It is the very boringness of folks like that helps brings acceptance. Everyone in my life knows about me and my partner and our dog and the arguments over who does the dishes and whose turn it is to buy groceries. We no different than other families, except we don’t have kids. Exposing other to the banality of our same-sex coupledom helps drive away the fears and myths about gays and lesbians.

    A co worker of mine is a very conservative fundie Wingnut. His life fell apart when his wife left him and took him for all he had in the divorce settlement. Lamenting his lot in life to me, he said “you know, Steve, I’ve changed my mind on gay marriage. I think you guys should be allowed to marry. That way, you guys can be screwed by divorce lawyer as badly as I was! I used to think gays were a threat to marriage. But you aren’t – I fucked my marriage up all by myself.”

    If my co-worker can change his views and accept gay marriage, I still have hope.

  • RSA said:

    I’m completely sick of being demonized for my efforts to want to appear normal. Just because my demographic represents only ten percent of the population doesn’t mean I’m abnormal. What do people have against lefthanders anyway? We’re sinister, gauche, and maladroit. Just because we’re different.

    it’s the sexual practices, rsa. masturbating with the left hand is just wrong.

    your pal,
    blake

  • I’m sure guys like Mohler cheer each and every time they think that they get away with a bigger piece of the pie because they’ve kept it from people like my spouse and I.

    We don’t make three digits, but above average for a couple like ours. We paid over $5K more in taxes than a heterosexual couple (what marriage penalty?), and don’t get the ‘rebate’ pay-off to regular folks. Well, regular folks unlike us.

  • However, the article doesn’t talk about what we homosexuals think when we’re doing all these normal, mudane things.

    I know whenever I go to the grocery story and stand in the cereal aisle I think to myself “what kind of corn flakes would better help to destroy the American family?” When I brush my teeth in the morning I think “what can I do to destroy the institution of marriage today?” When my partner and I were signing our mortgage papers every time I signed my name I thought “now I’m really sticking it to all those damn breeders!” Additionally, when we both had to check the “single” box when we’ve been together for 8 years it felt totally AWESOME.

    Sarcasm aside, I do truly LOVE that the state of my non-legalized marriage no longer seems to be a useful poltical tool to scare people into thinking that other people’s families are a “threat” to other Americans. I hope it stays that way.

  • Who cares about being “normal”?
    My favorite bit of wisdom about “normal” comes from a Newsweek article describing how a US Army unit in Iraq started using unconventional methods to deal with IEDs. The unit commander’s motto was, “Normal is a setting on a washing machine.”

  • The “I’m boring.” down-home portrayals of homosexual couples are meant to provoke the question: Since gay couples really differ only in that both partners are of the same sex, what rational basis exists for denying them full marriage rights? Are homosexual households, as the article suggests, simply another variant of human relationships that should be considered, along with marriage, as “part of mainstream American society”? On the contrary, the evidence indicates that “committed” homosexual relationships are radically different from married couples in several key respects:

    · relationship duration
    · monogamy vs. promiscuity
    · relationship commitment
    · number of children being raised
    · health risks
    · rates of intimate partner violence

    RELATED ARTICLE: Comparing the Lifestyles of Homosexual Couples to Married Couples Family Research Council, By Timothy J. Dailey, Ph. D. (Posted March 2008)
    http://www.marriageresourcesforclergy.com/site/Articles/articles011.htm

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