The Democratic flirtations McCain doesn’t want to talk about

A couple of weeks ago, the NYT’s Elisabeth Bumiller asked John McCain about his contradictory stories regarding joining John Kerry’s 2004 Democratic ticket. McCain claimed he “never even considered such a thing,” which is clearly false. When Bumiller pressed him on the issue, McCain’s infamous temper didn’t exactly erupt, but he certainly made his displeasure clear.

The incident seems to have prompted Bumiller to take a closer look at the two major flirtations McCain has had with the Democratic Party, neither of which has generated much attention during this year’s campaign.

Senator John McCain never fails to call himself a conservative Republican as he campaigns as his party’s presumptive presidential nominee. He often adds that he was a “foot soldier” in the Reagan revolution and that he believes in the bedrock conservative principles of small government, low taxes and the rights of the unborn.

What Mr. McCain almost never mentions are two extraordinary moments in his political past that are at odds with the candidate of the present: His discussions in 2001 with Democrats about leaving the Republican Party, and his conversations in 2004 with Senator John Kerry about becoming Mr. Kerry’s running mate on the Democratic presidential ticket.

Regular readers may recall that I’ve followed both stories with great interest, in part because I (wrongly) believed McCain’s on-again, off-again romance with Democrats would become a problem for the senator in the Republican primaries. That didn’t exactly work out — McCain’s rivals never pushed the matter, and reporters didn’t bring it up.

But in light of McCain’s mini-tantrum on his campaign plane earlier this month, Bumiller does a good job summarizing what transpired. The questions now are, does this matter, and if so, how?

On the possible 2001 switch…

Democrats were stunned one Saturday in late March when, by their account, John Weaver, Mr. McCain’s longtime political strategist, reached out to Thomas J. Downey, a former Democratic congressman from Long Island who had become a lobbyist with powerful connections on Capitol Hill. In Mr. Downey’s telling, Mr. Weaver posed a question to him over lunch that left him stunned.

“He says, ‘John McCain is wondering why nobody’s ever approached him about switching parties, or becoming an independent and allying himself with the Democrats,’ ” Mr. Downey said in a recent interview. “My reaction was, ‘When I leave this lunch, your boss will be called by anybody you want him to be called by in the United States Senate.’ “

…and on the 2004 Democratic ticket.

[L]ess than three years later, Mr. McCain was once again in talks with the Democrats, this time over whether he would be Mr. Kerry’s running mate. In an interview with a blog last year, Mr. Kerry said that the initial idea had come from Mr. McCain’s side, as had happened in 2001.

Mr. Kerry, reacting to reports in The Hill newspaper last year about Mr. Weaver’s 2001 approach to Mr. Downey, said he saw a pattern. “It doesn’t surprise me completely because his people similarly approached me to engage in a discussion about his potentially being on the ticket as vice president,” Mr. Kerry told Jonathan Singer of MyDD.com, a prominent liberal blog, in remarks that are available in an audio version online and that Mr. Kerry’s staff said last week were accurate. “So his people were active — let’s put it that way.”

Two former Kerry strategists said last week that Mr. Weaver went to Mr. Kerry’s house in Georgetown a short time after Mr. Kerry won the Democratic nomination in March and asked that Mr. Kerry consider Mr. McCain as his running mate. (Mr. Weaver said in his e-mail message that the idea had come from Mr. Kerry.)

I’m pretty skeptical about the McCain camp’s version of events, in large part because the Dems involved in the events have no reason to lie. (In contrast, McCain has already been caught lying, rather blatantly, about considering Kerry’s offer.)

As for the ’08 implications, one can reasonably argue that the issue helps McCain. As the argument goes, he’s such a “maverick,” and his “independent” streak is so strong, he reached across the aisle in a major way during Bush’s first term.

But I have a different take. Far from showing McCain to be open-minded, I find these events to be a reminder of just how shallow McCain’s principles really are. When the winds were blowing in one direction, he was prepared to leave his party. When the winds shifted, he attached himself to the president he found offensive.

It’s hardly a compelling selling point.

I wonder what kind of weather vane McCain has on his roof. GWB was still relatively (compared to now, anyway) popular when McCain approached Kerry about the VP slot. Now that GWB is radioactive, McCain is binding himself to him.

  • For a little bit of political theatre, it sure would be amusing of Obama (or Hillary, if pigs sprout wings) offered McCain the VP slot this time around.

  • I wonder what kind of weather vane McCain has on his roof.

    You know, “Weather Vane McCain” has a nice ring to it. Not only does it capture the flip-flopping, but all the component words are damaging — weathered and vain aren’t good, and nothing sounds as old-fashioned and out-of-date as a weather vane.

    I still like McBush for the utter simplicity and damning overtones, but this is a nice change of pace.

  • Good lord, McCain as Obama’s running mate? You might as well sign Obama’s death warrant.

    There is no way I would want McCain anywhere near the office of President. He is not equipped to handle the job in terms of knowledge, temperament, and just about every other major consideration.

    2nd in line? No friggin’ way!!

  • I’m pretty sure it’s going to boil down to what the media wants to say about it. If they decide that he’s such a “straight talker” that he couldn’t possibly be lying about this (and a lot of other things) then that will be the narrative. I suspect the rabid conservatives already know he’s lying about his flirtation with the Evil Ones, but they’re probably also dumb enough to think that they can “reform” him (or they’ll be placated by his VP pick who will no doubt be some kind of really special wingnut dog-whistle along the lines of Dan Quayle. If McCain picks a centrist he will lose the wingnuts (IMO).

    Hopefully in the age of YouTube, enough people will be able to get past the corporate media BS and see for themselves what a stupid, shallow, angry man McCain is, and how authentic and inspiring their other option is.

  • Perhaps OT and tardy, but I thought that Hon. Sen. McCain’s comments in the FT during his fundraiser in the UK had an important omission:

    John McCain has vowed to make the US a model “international citizen” by working with other countries to tackle challenges such as terrorism and global warming, distancing himself from the perceived unilateralism of the Bush administration.

    There was no mention of the ICC. I wonder what are the Senator’s past and future positions on the International Criminal Court and the current administration’s diligent attempts to both undermine it and circumvent it with a blizzard of bilateral side deals (intimately tied up with trade deals and such, much like their puerile attempts to engineer the coalition of the ‘willing.’)?

  • as long as st. john is around “you don’t need a weather vane to know which way the wind blows.”

    it’s almost like dylan wrote the song (over 40 years ago) w/ him in mind.

  • The incident seems to have prompted Bumiller to take a closer look at the two major flirtations McCain has had with the Democratic Party, neither of which has generated much attention during this year’s campaign. For two reasons: it isn’t much of a story anymore, and Bumiller is a dishonest hack trying to torpedo McCain. Conservatives saw through her dishonesty two weeks ago when she claimed McCain “displayed some of the temper that he is known for but that he has largely kept it under control”. I saw that video. Not only did McCain not display any temper, nor was he testy, all he did was ask Bumiller to rephrase a stupid question she tried to put to him, and she responded with something along the lines of “never mind”. What’s funnier is that the March 8 Bumiller piece still contains a reference to “James C. Hagee”. After more than two weeks, the Times isn’t even smart enough to correct this. As I said here [emphasis from original]:

    I can understand the Times being confused by all these neanderthal, right-wing, fear-mongering, and scary evangelical Christian preachers who want the U.S. to be a Christian theocracy supporting James John McCain, like James C. Dobson or John C. Hagee.

    So now Bumiller comes out with another hit piece on McCain. This from the same group of thugs who tried to use innuendo and lies to make it seem like McCain might have had an affair with a lobbyist, but didn’t.

  • #9 Whether or not McCain had a laison with his lobbyist, he fucked the American people by getting into bed with her.

    And you know where his dick has been because…? Just wondering.

  • Others have noticed this, but it bears repeating:

    The Clinton Cultists only show up to threads about the primary fight. They never have anything to say about McCain, the GOP, or anything else.

    There are two possible conclusions, and I’m not sure which is worse: (1) They really are Clinton Cultists and only care about her or (2) They’re conservative trolls just trying to foster internal Democratic Party strife.

  • I vote for #2 for sure.

    You can always tell the trolls…they are tepid in their endorsement for Clinton yet rail on Obama.

    Mary is one of the only ones I think truly gives her support to Clinton. Most of the others are nothing but goopers playing games.

  • MsJoanne (#11): #9 Whether or not McCain had a laison with his lobbyist, he fucked the American people by getting into bed with her.

    Where did this great incite come from, Greenwald? Clinton (either one)? Spitzer? Paterson? Newsom? Kilpatrick?

    And you know where his dick has been because…? Just wondering. I don’t. But apparently you do. After all, you seem to be one of those American people who seemed to have gotten “fucked” by McCain getting into bed with someone else (I don’t think anyone is going to be able to figure out the mechanics of this, but whatever).

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