The education of Walter Jones

I disagree with him on almost every political issue I can think of, but Rep. [tag]Walter Jones[/tag] Jr. (R-N.C.) seems to have learned a great deal over the last few years, particularly when it comes to the [tag]war[/tag] in [tag]Iraq[/tag].

Jones, you may recall, came up with the idea of changing the name of “french fries” to “freedom fries” in the House dining hall in 2003. Asked why the move was necessary, Jones said, “This isn’t a political or publicity stunt…. It’s a gesture just to say to the French, ‘Up yours!'” Classy.

That was then. By May 2003, Jones was publicly criticizing the war, saying we invaded Iraq “with no justification.” He lined the hallway outside his office with “the faces of the fallen” and ultimately suggested that lawmakers may have been “given misinformation intentionally by people in this administration.”

Indeed, the so-called “[tag]debate[/tag]” [tag]Congress[/tag] had this week was, in fact, largely Jones’ idea. A few months ago, it was Jones who sent a letter around to his colleagues calling for “an open and honest debate on the future of U.S. policy in Iraq.” He wanted 17 hours of debate on the House floor on whether lawmakers believe Bush should “develop and implement a plan for the withdrawal” of U.S. troops. When House Majority Leader John [tag]Boehner[/tag] (R-Ohio) agreed to hold just such a debate, Jones was thrilled. Finally, he thought, the House could engage in some serious discussion about the most important issue facing the country.

Then the GOP leadership decided to shuffle the deck a bit and “improve” on the idea of a floor debate. It was a classic bait and switch: Republican leaders promised a debate on the war, but delivered a debate on whether “the United States will prevail in the Global [tag]War on Terror[/tag].” No amendments or changes were allowed. Is Jones still pleased? Not so much.

Jones now says he feels duped by his own party’s leadership. “Maybe I should have been less trusting, but I felt it would be a debate that would allow us to talk about policy,” Jones told me. “I don’t see how we would have gotten hurt if we had allowed members of both parties to go down to the floor to offer an amendment.”

Lesson #1 on Capitol Hill: if you trust the Republican leadership, you’re making a mistake — even if you’re a Republican.

Not that it matters, but the House passed the resolution this afternoon, 256 to 153. Five lawmakers voted “present,” rather than express an opinion on the absurd resolution before them. Jones was one of the five.

“I don’t want to give any credibility to what I think is a [tag]charade[/tag]. My two minutes, maybe three, is not going to change anything,” he told me in the morning. When called for a vote, he said he planned to vote “present.” “It is not an honest debate,” he explained. “If it was an [tag]honest[/tag] debate I would vote one way or the other.”

Before leaving his office, I asked him what it would take for the House to have a real debate about policy in Iraq. He paused a moment, and then appeared embarrassed by the answer. “I don’t want to say this because I’m a Republican,” he began. “But if things change, then obviously that could change the rule in the debate.”

He was talking about the very real chance that [tag]Democrats[/tag] will retake control of the House on Election Day.

Yes, this very conservative Republican is left hoping for a Democratic majority, just so the institution can have a legitimate, honest debate about a war. It’s come to this.

Okay, so even now Republicans want divided Government 😉

  • Is there anything preventing Rep. Jones from become a conservative Southern Democrat like former Rep. Charlie Stenholm (D-TX)?

  • Just goes to prove that except for perhaps a handful of Republicans congresspeople and senators such as Rep. Walter Jones, Jr. (R-NC) (at least, thank God, there are a handful who are interested in honest government), Bush and most of his cronies are not interested in getting down to honest business and governing–they are only interested in achieving their very limited agenda and nothing else regardless of how detrimental it is for the country and its citizens.

  • “Five lawmakers voted “present,” rather than express an opinion on the absurd resolution before them.”

    Five? There has to be more then five Democrats in the House (even if they are impotent). Who missed the boat on this one?

    All the Democrats should have voted present.

    Dems should not have participated in this sham BS.

  • I’ve been saying for a long time that sincere conservatives should be just as appalled by this administration’s antics as liberal Democrats are. It’s just a shame how few sincere conservatives seem to be left in Congress.

  • Mother Jones ran an interesting story awhile back on how Rep. Jones came to oppose the war.

    I don’t think he’ll be leaving the R’s anytime soon, but hats off to him nonetheless for having *some* conscience and calling out his own party.

    And agreed 100% that ALL of the Dems should have voted ‘present’, and issued a similar denunciation of this sovietesque ‘debate’.

  • Jones is fabulous and has done his part for a full and open debate on the war, by supporting H. Res. 543. This is the one vehicle that we have to force the Repub leadership to hold a real debate, but although we have 124 supporters to date, today’s vote doesn’t give me confidence that we can even get the entire Dem caucus to support it, let alone getting the Repub signers to get us to the magic number 218.

  • I’ll say it again:

    42 Democrats voted in favor of the resolution.

    The Democrats have NO CHANCE in November if 20% of their members in the House vote in favor of a sham Republican PR stunt.

    Disgusting.

  • I wish I could remember exactly when and for what piece of legislation but it was an early indication of how the GOP was going to run things.

    There was going to be a committee vote for an environmental bill of some type sometime after the 1994 turnover. New England and northwest members were siding with the Democrats on either the legislation or some procedural measure that was to their advantage. The Democrats and their allies won the first committee vote but the leadership very deliberately scheduled another vote when those very Republicans were unable to vote. Needless to say the victory went to the leadership.

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