The GOP — Grand Obstructionist Party

Looking over today’s posts thus far, a trend emerges — Republican blocked a habeas corpus bill from coming to a vote. They also blocked a bill to give DC residents a voice in Congress from coming to a vote. Jim Webb’s amendment to give troops equal time off for the time they spend in combat will be blocked from coming to a vote. The Senate Democratic leadership is working on a funding bill for Iraq that includes a withdrawal timeline, which Republicans will block from coming to a vote.

And that’s just from news items today. Kevin Drum highlights the problem we’ve been watching all year.

Republicans aren’t just obstructing legislation at normal rates. They’re obstructing legislation at three times the usual rate. They’re absolutely desperate to keep this stuff off the president’s desk, where the only choice is to either sign it or else take the blame for a high-profile veto.

As things stand, though, Republicans will largely avoid blame for their tactics. After all, the first story linked above says only that the DC bill “came up short in the Senate” and the second one that the habeas bill “fell short in the Senate.” You have to read with a gimlet eye to figure out how the vote actually broke down, and casual readers will come away thinking that the bills failed because of some kind of generic Washington gridlock, not GOP obstructionism. […]

Would it really be so hard for reporters to make it clear exactly who’s responsible for blocking these bills?

This isn’t a new problem, but it is an unprecedented (and undemocratic) one. Indeed, senators have been taking advantage of filibusters for generations, but we’ve never had a Senate minority that is as reckless and obstructionist as Senate Republicans in 2007.

For years, Republicans, with a 55-seat majority, cried like young children if Dems even considered a procedural hurdle. They said voters would punish obstructionists. They said it was borderline unconstitutional. They said to stand in the way of majority rule was to undermine a basic principle of our democratic system.

And wouldn’t you know it, the shameless hypocrites didn’t mean a word of it.

The Republican minority has created a de facto 60-vote minimum to do anything of substance in the Senate. They’ll allow routine up-or-down votes on renaming post offices, or those rare bills that enjoy near-unanimous support, but otherwise, it’s filibuster time on the Senate floor. And while the number of filibusters has been going up pretty consistently for 20 years, these Republicans appear to be in a league of their own.

Their excuses are pretty pathetic.

“You can’t say that all we’re going to do around here in the United States Senate is have us govern by 51 votes — otherwise we might as well be unicameral, because then we would have the Senate and the House exactly the same,” said Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

To which Reid responds: “The problem we have is that we don’t have many moderate Republicans. I don’t know what we can do to create less cloture votes other than not file them, just walk away and say, ‘We’re not going to do anything.’ That’s the only alternative we have.”

McCain’s rationale is pretty absurd. He’s effectively arguing: Water down bills or we’ll bring the chamber to a halt. This from a man who used to say “elections have consequences.”

If Republicans don’t like a bill, they can vote against it. If it passes anyway, they can urge the president to veto it. But holding the chamber hostage just further demonstrates why the modern GOP is unwilling to govern responsibly.

Besides, this isn’t about the GOP waiting for bipartisan bills; it’s about obstructionism. Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) said a Republican colleague of his told him that a strategy has been adopted by the minority to “prevent any accomplishment” by the new Congress:

“I had a Republican colleague tell me it is the Republican strategy to try to prevent any accomplishment of the Democratic Congress. That is set in their caucus openly and directly that they don’t intend to allow Democrats to have any legislative successes, and they intend to do it by repeated filibuster.”

The only resolution is public outrage, which might encourage the GOP to allow the Senate to start voting on bills again, and which might happen if reporters would do their jobs.

In April, Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) said, “The strategy of being obstructionist can work or fail … and so far it’s working for us.”

And it’s failing for the rest of the country.

I think Jim Webb should go on national television and beg Republicans to vote for his bill getting troops a proper rest. I mean BEG. Embarrass the hell out of them.

It should be a paid for announcement so it will actually air and not be buried among the on going, never ending OJ coverage.

  • I posted this at Think Progress a few minutes ago, but seems to fit here..

    I just wish that the Democratic leadership would make them follow through on each and every filibuster. Let them talk. Let them defend their positions. Let their forced continuation of discussion make the news. Not as a stunt, as an agreement to the Minorities exerted will to continue discussion. Their request is legitimate and their is no reason to move on to the next topic just because they threaten to continue debate. So let them talk, every time they vote to not close debate.

    If I understand correctly, the minority must sustain the discussion and if they cannot, then the vote proceeds. If it appears they have run out of breath, vote for cloture. If it again fails to close discussion, well then they should feel free to keep talking, but make them sustain it. I can’t find anything that holds the Democrats to having to participate in the debate itself at all.

    From Wikipedia:

    As a form of obstructionism in a legislature or other decision making body, a filibuster is an attempt to extend debate upon a proposal in order to delay or completely prevent a vote on its passage. The term first came into use in the United States Senate, where Senate rules permit a senator, or a series of senators, to speak for as long as they wish and on any topic they choose, unless a supermajority group of 60% of senators brings debate to a close by invoking cloture.

    This seems to me to be the biggest mistake that the Majority is making. We are allowing them to obstruct through threat without ever requiring them to follow through with it. Let them talk. Let them talk as long and about whatever they want, just as the procedure provides for.

    Make them follow through and draw the attention to themselves. Over and over again. If other bills or actions are being delayed because the Republicans actually do continue their discussion, that is what the Democrats should be bringing to light when they are being interviewed. “We would like to move on to bill x, y and z, but the Minority has chosen to invoke this procedure and we are respecting their decision. When they have decided that they have had their fair say and that we can proceed with the simple majority vote on Bill A, we will move forward. Until then, the Republican party has the floor as is required by their actions.”

    Stop allowing them to drive a 60 vote requirement into the public consciousness. I bet that with as many times as this has happened of late that if a poll was taken asking what the requirements are for a vote to pass the Senate, some percentage would now believe that it is a 60 vote majority.

    Senate Majority leaders. Make them follow through. Please.

  • The republicans are being their usual horrid selves, which is no surprise. The real problem is the MSM treats GOP obstructionism as a non-story, which happens in part because the Dems let them. Every Democrat from from Reid on down ought to be calling them out on this. Jeez, doesn’t anybody know how to play this game?

  • The Dems should campaign on this next year. “The Republicans are gumming up the works. You want change? Give us 60 in the Senate.”

  • It’s different when they do it. They’re Republicans, you see.

    By the way, shouldn’t that be Gay Obstructionist Party?

  • Next session, do away with the filibuster or reduce it to some more manageable level like 55 votes.

  • GOP – Grand Old Phascists? It looks like they really think that taking back control of the government will lead to further glorious accomplishments similar to their sterling record over the last seven years. Where are the responsible conservatives, the responsible Republicans? Aren’t they embarrassed by these radicals (obviously not)?

  • Actually the MSM doesn’t treat it as a non-story – they very easily bought and spread the GOP meme that the Democratic-led Congress just can’t get anything done. I’ve heard this repeated unquestioningly several times now.

  • The only resolution is public outrage, which might encourage the GOP to allow the Senate to start voting on bills again, and which might happen if reporters would do their jobs.

    Indeed. But if reporters did their jobs, we wouldn’t be in Iraq, would we?

    The old “liberal media” strikes again.

  • Excuse me but
    What is wrong with a filibuster?

    It seems to me that the Senate has rules that say you need 60 votes to pass most legislation.

    Obviously, if you don’t have 60 votes then you can’t pass anything.

    Why was it acceptable for Democrats to filibuster and it isn’t acceptable for Republicans to do the same thing?

    Yes, I realize that you need to go pretty far to the right to find 9 Republican senators to agree with the Democrats on anything.

    But why is that a problem?

    If you wanted majority rule in the senate then why didn’t you want it when the Republicans controlled everything?

    I think people who complain about the filibuster now but didn’t complain about before this year are hypocrites and are just as bad as the Republican hypocrites that we all criticize.

    And yes, I am talking about CB and virtually everyone on this site.

  • Hopefully, someone high up in the Democratic organization will take note of this behavior and run a few billion ads over the next few months or years. This should not be forgotten or forgiven.

  • I think requiring the Republicans to actually perform the filibuster (and not just threaten it) is a great idea. Let them read the phone book in their zeal to keep the Iraq war going. Hell, MAKE them do it.

    Give ’em a list of the dead Americans to read, that’ll burn up quite a bit of time.

  • Why was it acceptable for Democrats to filibuster and it isn’t acceptable for Republicans to do the same thing?

    Ok genius. The point is, although I doubt you’ll get it, is that the Republicans have made a huge issue out of the Democrats being obstructionist and filibustering all the time when in fact that is not true in the least.

    So now, you have the Republicans filibustering right and left, people with common sense and a sense of fair play are calling foul for this clear hypocrisy.

  • Hey neil, the troops who remain stuck in Iraq because of this Republican filibuster would probably love to pound you into the sand. The vast majority of America wants the troops brought home, and the Republicans want to block that. If you’re fine with that then there’s something really wrong with you.

  • If the democrats don’t start screaming, letting the filibusters happen, they will lose in 2008. I now call myself an independant, the Democrats seem no better than the Republicans. Allowing the ancient right of man….habeus corpus….to be BLOCKED is obscene. They all need new jobs, every one of them.
    I am sick of the ineptitude and corruption everywhere. Why won’t they do their job and impeach that madman in the WH before he bombs Iran? What more will it take for people to get off their FAT ASSES and SCREAM?
    I am sick of screaming into the wind. Nobody seems to give a fuck.
    Google put up a new satallite in space yesterday. It can track everything down to 18″ in size real time. The media talks about OJ Simpson.
    People, dictatorship is here. Wake up! We are out of time.

  • neil wilson,

    I think people who complain about the filibuster now but didn’t complain about before this year are hypocrites and are just as bad as the Republican hypocrites that we all criticize.

    And yes, I am talking about CB and virtually everyone on this site.

    That’s a mighty big charge there. Care to provide some links to some posts and related comments to back it up? If not, please refrain from comparing “virtually everyone” who comments here to the current GOP.

  • I think requiring the Republicans to actually perform the filibuster (and not just threaten it) is a great idea. Let them read the phone book in their zeal to keep the Iraq war going. Hell, MAKE them do it.

    Exactly.

    Let Joe Sixpack see what a bunch of long-winded, sycophantic, obstructionist lard-asses they really are. Make them do it again and again, especially in cases like the Webb bill, which is a no-brainer for anyone who really supports the troops. Make them keep those flabby white bellies upright for hours on end as they blather about nothing. Maybe we’ll get lucky and one of those porkeaters will overtax himself.

    But for God’s sake, don’t turn tail at the threat of a filibuster.

  • The alternative is for Senate Dems and House Dems to link up in advance on the entire gamut of issues. Tell the Grand Old Polecat Senators that they can either play nice—or the Dem majority in the House will start shutting down the bank.

    You take away funding for all those Reskunklican pet projects—the 30 pieces of soiled silver that they’ve bought their waning power with—and they’ll come to the table begging….

  • It’s working for them because the Media will not do their fucking jobs and report it and keep reporting it. The press has the power to lead a campaign to stop this republican obstructionism allowing our government to function normally again. Every threatened filibuster should be forced to be a daily public demonstration of these lame excuses to prevent the normal functioning of the senate. There should be daily headlines as to what is actually happening here…but as has been demonstrated by previous newscasts the reporters themselves don’t know how a filibuster works much less to know how it is being used to obstruct our government from functioning.

    One day these media owners will die and perhaps we will get real knowledgeable reporters again, ones who are capable of doing more than just repeating republican talking points.

  • For years, Republicans, with a 55-seat majority, cried like young children if Dems even considered a procedural hurdle. They said voters would punish obstructionists. They said it was borderline unconstitutional. They said to stand in the way of majority rule was to undermine a basic principle of our democratic system.

    And therein lies the problem. When Republicans don’t like the way they’re being treated, they cry bloody murder and EVERYBODY knows about it. When Democrats don’t like the way they’re being treated, they… sorta… don’t really say much of anything to the public.

    Leahy’s very eloquent words on Habeus were great, but they were also pointless. After being forced, by the minority party, to basically give up on the issue, his words should have been about the obstruction tactics of that party and their cowardice in refusing to vote yes or no, not the importance of Habeus.

    Democrats should be OUTRAGED in every media appearance they make about the de-facto filibusters going on. They should demand “up or down” votes. They should let the American people know that rather than voting against things, Republicans just don’t want the votes to happen at all. If they raised this as a serious issue, maybe it would change.

    But what incentive do Republicans have to stop acting like this and vote on anything when Democrats just say “awww shucks, we couldn’t get cloture on this one. Maybe we’ll have better luck on the next bill that’s destined to go never even be voted on.” And yes we can all sit around and feel bad because we know the media isn’t going to do us any favors, Democrats still get interviewed and still make appearances, and if they’re talking about anything OTHER than this then they’re wasting time that could otherwise be spent bringing and end to this utterly offensive game-plan the GOP has.

    Seriously, this is outrageous. And it’s the Democrats that are pissing me off the most.
    Grow a freaking spine and make some noise about it rather than accepting it as the way things are going to be. Throw their own words back at them, point out how hypocritical they are on filibusters and obstructionism, and win some public favor so the next time they refuse to vote on something they catch hell for it.

    Nothings going to change if the Democrats don’t make it an issue that people hear about every time they hear from a Democrat.

  • I’m with the majority here, make the effers actually filibuster, not the cute “media stunt” you did earlier this year. Make them effing OWN this war, make them own their obstructionism, let the country understand why troops having equal downtime is a bad thing. MoveON and IAVA should be ready and willing to place tv ads in every state where one of these obstructionists is up for re-election every damned night during the evening news. Make them explain to their constituents why they hate 900 year old laws that have served us well, why they hate the troops, love this war, love their party and their president more than their country, constitution or constituents. Make the effers pay evry day in public reprobation. Every Dem needs to lead ever sentence they say to the press off with Republican obstructionism blocking the will of the people. Time to play hardball politics, grave the elephants by the balls and not let go til they beg for mercy. And we’ll have their backs!

    I Am beyond sick of this! This is why congress approval ratings are so low, the dems and independants are mad at the dems for taking a soft lead pencil to armageddon. Geeze, grow some will ya! Stop waiting til 2008!

  • I’m pretty sure actual filibusters have been written out of the rules and the best they could do now is something like 20 additional hours of debate. Which I agree Reid should force every time a cloture vote fails. 3 in one day is just pathetic.

  • RE: #10
    I think you missed the point here. The Republicans whined and threatened the nuclear option for exactly what they are now doing themselves. Further, they have stated as a goal, not the let any Democratic produced legislation see the light of day.
    When Democrats filibustered, they did so out of conviction that a judge or a piece of legislation was bad. Not so these guys. This is purely and simply a power grab. And not even an honest one at that.
    It’s got to stop.

  • I think people who complain about the filibuster now but didn’t complain about before this year are hypocrites and are just as bad as the Republican hypocrites that we all criticize. — neil wilson

    The filibuster is a useful tool designed to protect the interest of the minority but like alll tools it can be abused — which is the opinion I read most often on this site. The filibuster, in my opinion, should only be used when those that invoke it are willing to pay the price for their obstruction or to make a point of how unacceptable the majority opinion is.

    The current problem is two-fold: (1) the majority party is not making the minority pay for filibustering and (2) the minority is using the filibuster so often that 60 votes are now required to pass most anything the majority proposes. Republicans are not using the filibuster as a legislative tactic to stall individual measures they find unacceptable, they have adopted it as a political strategy to paint Democrats as ineffective and unable to govern.

    Republicans are, as someone here noted, burning the village to save it from the godless liberals. Because they are paying no price (having to stand in the well and read recipes) their strategy is working — even though those godless liberals happen to be on the side of a majority of voters on many issues. That’s where the press is failing.

  • I’ve posted this before, so apologies to those familiar with it. Here’s Grover Norquist outlining his vision of the conservative agenda at the Conservative Political Action Conference this March:

    Nothing good happens in the next two years out of this Congress. Nothing good.

    If you read in the newspaper that there’s a bill with a nice sounding name, and it sounds in the first sentence like the bill is good, you haven’t read the whole bill.

    Nothing good happens. They’re not going to cut taxes.

    (APPLAUSE)

    Look, get married, develop a hobby, learn to belly dance, learn to golf — you know, we got two years free, but we gotta spend some time and effort playing defense here.

    Because the Democrats are going to be like young men on prom dates — they’re gonna keep asking the same question of us over and over and over again. And our job is to say “no, no, no, no” for two years.

    It doesn’t do us any good to go “no, no, yes” okay? It has to be “no” for two years in a row. It’s going to be tiresome, it’s going to be boring. People are gonna go, “oh maybe this bill isn’t as bad as it looks.” Don’t eat it, don’t swallow it, don’t touch it. Nothing good passes this Congress.

    Plan for the future and read novels.

  • TR #4 – Idea has merit but use KISS method. Print bumper stickers with absolutely nothing but the number “60” printed on them. Don’t wait. Plaster them on your bumpers NOW. Put signs on your lawn with just “60” on them. Posters on telephone polls – “Wanted – 60”. Love it.

  • Why stop at 60? I know that is what is needed to stop a filibuster, but why not go for 70? With 70 you can override a veto. As Al Franken has pointed out, the new Congress is sworn in January 2 or so. That’s 18 days to impeach try and convict all the Bushies and send them to prison. I mean all of them, not just Bush and Cheney. With 70 votes in the Senate it could just steamroll over the Republicans.

  • I think people who complain about the filibuster now but didn’t complain about before this year are hypocrites and are just as bad as the Republican hypocrites that we all criticize. — neil wilson

    I think people who compare the filibustering tactics of Democrats to Republican’ts, but don’t point out that the current crop of Republican’t Senators are filibustering at a rate three times greater than any other congress in history and have been engaging in a calculated, coordinated strategy of obstructrionism are hypocrites themselves and are just trying to support the Republican hypocrites that are justifiably criticized for their actions.

  • On “Morning Edition” (NPR) this morning there were two back-to-back stories that included lines to the effect that “The Senate failed to pass…” The truth is that they didn’t fail to pass but that “The Republican caucus blocked a vote on …” Now, remember, this is from the supposedly “most Liberal” of the Liberal Media. I was so pissed I almost fell off the treadmill.

    To Neil Wilson @ 10
    The Democratic caucus blocked selective votes, e.g. Federal Judges, etc., for specific reasons. The Republican caucus is blocking everything that has any consequence. The Democratic caucus recognized that the Republicans were in the majority and allowed them to pass most bills, in spite of their disagreement with the content. The Repubs are truly worthy of the term “obstructionist” but the Dems aren’t using it.

    Unfortunately, I am (un)represented by one of the most partisan of the obstructionists, Melvin Martinez. Thanks for your sympathy.

  • Its aggravating that the Democrats won’t force the actual Filibuster action. We need to see these guys obstruct, instead all we have is Democrats put up their arms and say next.

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