The media drumbeat is hard to ignore

On MSNBC last night, Keith Olbermann asked Tim Russert whether the race for the Democratic nomination is over. Russert’s response became one of the more talked-about quotes of the evening.

For those of you who can’t clips online, Russert responded, “We now know who the Democratic nominee is going to be, and no one’s going to dispute it, Keith. You know, sometimes in campaigns, the candidate is the last to recognize the best timing. It’s very much like being on life support — once they start removing the systems, you really have no choice.”

He added, “If, in fact, these reports of Senator Clinton giving her campaign more money are true, then the Clintons have a big decision to make in the morning: Do they go into further debt? … Their ability to raise money after the events of tonight – it’s going to be very difficult. As opposed to what happened after Pennsylvania, when money roared in, because people saw a realistic chance. That no longer exists. They know it, Obama knows it, and the voters … now know it, as well…. She has some real soul-searching to do. And those closest to her will give her a hard-headed analysis, and if they lay it all out, they’ll say, ‘What is the rationale? What do we say to the undeclared superdelegates tomorrow? Why do we tell them you’re staying in the race?’ Tonight, there’s no good answer for that.”

Now, the point isn’t that Russert is a reliable authority on Democratic politics, or that he somehow has his finger on the pulse of the nation. He doesn’t. The point is that Russert is largely responsible for articulating the conventional wisdom, embraced by the DC establishment.

And once the establishment decides that a candidate is finished, and starts treating that candidate accordingly, it practically becomes self-fulfilling. In Clinton’s case, facing dispiriting metrics, it’s critical that the broader campaign narrative suggest that she still has a shot at the nomination.

And right now, on every channel, everyone is hearing the opposite.

The morning shows apparently didn’t help Clinton’s case.

ABC’s “Good Morning America”: “End of the Road”

NBC’s “Today”: “Is it Over?”

CBS’ “Early Show”: “Obama’s Big Night”

NBC: Russert repeated his Obama-is-the-nominee line, but hung it on “objective Democrats” rather than his own judgment. Of insiders, said “the obstacles are overwhelming, and they know it.” Russert suggested Obama would help Clinton retire her campaign debt (and pay off Mark Penn’s bills) as part of an exit deal.

Andrea Mitchell: “She is ready to give up.” Cited Ed Rendell as the kind of supporter who might ease her out.

Stephanopoulos added, “More superdelegates will come out today for Barack Obama — they will come three, four, five at a time, and this nomination will be locked up.”

It looks like the general election begins today.

When did the corporate media get to vote on this?

But I’d like it if THEY would start focusing on McCan’t. When was the last time they did a story on Ron Paul.

  • While I agree with most of the argument please remember that the same people declaring Hillary dead were the people in 1998 who were wondering if Bill Clinton would last out the week as President during the Monica days. They were also the people who declared that George Bush was Emporer Caesar as he walked across the deck of the aircraft carrier. They also declared John McCain’s campaign dead last November.

    They are brillian amongst themselves, just ask them. Hillary is on the ropes but it is not over until she says it is over. If anything she may fight on just to show the media elite that they do not control her.

  • On May 7th, 2008 at 10:08 am, Stuart Shiffman said:
    Hillary is on the ropes but it is not over until she says it is over. If anything she may fight on just to show the media elite that they do not control her.

    Wow, so continue down this destructive path for purely selfish reasons? Hmmm, well it would be consistent I suppose.

  • “Hillary is on the ropes but it is not over until she says it is over. If anything she may fight on just to show the media elite that they do not control her.”

    What if she says it’s not over and no one pays attention? She’s going to be reduced to a sideshow, a sidebar. And let’s face it, the publics attention span isn’t all that long. This has dragged on and on and on. I think people are ready for what’s next. Hillary Clinton thrashing and wailing in an increasingly bizzarre and silly attempt to get a nomination that has been out of her reach for quite some time is a story who’s shelf life is just about expired. After last night attention will turn away from her.

  • Stuart Shiffman said: “… If anything she may fight on just to show the media elite that they do not control her.”

    Brrrr! What a rotten reason for continuing to run.

    I’ve got a suggestion for Senator Obama. You want this to end? Go up to Bill Clinton and apologize for calling the 1990’s a decade where Washington did nothing for Americans. Tell the world you like the prosperity and peace and surpluses of the Clinton Administration. Do that and he’ll have a reason to talk Hillary out of the race.

    Until you do, Bill (who is her closest advisor and now funding source) will have no reason to stop this campaign.

  • “Hillary is on the ropes but it is not over until she says it is over. If anything she may fight on just to show the media elite that they do not control her.”

    Hillary 2008: You’re Not the Boss of Me!

  • Yeah, if this stays the media narrative and HRC stops with the “kitchen sink strategy” then it doesn’t bother me of she stays in it to the convention. I think it’s perfectly logical for her to tout her superior health care plan, attack John McCain, and want every vote counted… however if she goes back to negative attacks that damage Democrats in the fall then Supers need to step in and end this thing for real.

  • Russert and crew have been pronouncing Hillary Clinton dead for months now, and clearly the voters don’t feel the same way. Let’s look at what Obama said as justification for why this is true. He said PA would go for Clinton, he would win NC and that IN would be the tie breaker. Well, she won PA, he won NC and Indiana was practically a tie. What this says to me is that the core of the Democratic party likes BOTH of these candidates, and really STILL can’t decide which one they like best.

    In my heart I believe Hillary would be a stronger GE candidate than Obama. He gave the first hint last night that he even has any real passion for this race.

    McCain clearly has passion for the fall contest, he’s sold his soul to get there. And Clinton clearly is passionate about the GE or she would not have been able to withstand the constant drum beat from the media to “get out.”

    I have serious concerns about whether or not Obama can beat McCain in the fall. I will go out on a limb here and say that he can’t, unless Hillary Clinton stays engaged in this election to help him. She has said that she will. If Obama becomes the nominee he’d better hope she does.

    BAC

  • The media is teh suck, no doubt about it, but as Chris Bowers notes this morning, none of the reasons the MSM is finally admitting this is over were born last night–it’s all been true since Wisconsin.

    I hope the Clintons don’t try to make this into a “the media unfairly bullied me into quitting” narrative, given that they’ve gotten the free ride of pretended viability for the last two months just for the sake of ratings (and, of course, for their corporate overlords who really wanted to run against Hillary).

  • When did the corporate media get to vote on this?

    By any objective measure this has been over for some weeks, and the MSM has been voting to keep it going. I’m glad they are finally coming around to reality.

    The biggest thing pushing Clinton to stop won’t be the media. It’ll be her own financial supporters, who will tell her the gravy train’s over, and force her to do the remainder of the primary campaign on a shoestring, or else blow piles of her own money. That, plus dribs and drabs of the supers endorsing Obama, will put the pressure on.

    BTW, talk of taking it to the convention is just bluster. I think the latest it will go will be the Kentucky primary.

  • BAC,

    Saying anything to get elected by pushing this idiotic gas tax holiday and constantly moving the goalposts after HER SURROGATES wrote the DNC rules over the last 8 years is not “showing passion,” it’s feckless political pandering plain and simple.

  • She’s out? Just like after Iowa? I’m really surprised that everyone is jumping to this verdict so decisively and quickly – not that I’m complaining. I think this has gone on far too long and have a deep suspicion Hillary just wants to make Obama unelectable.
    This is exactly what happened in Iowa and it just energized Hillary’s base and helped her come back in New Hampshire. What am I missing?

  • This thing has been over since the end of February. The M$M has largely been in denial because conflict sells commercials. Sounds like they are ready for the new fight between Flippy McTorture and Obama. I have been waiting patiently for weeks for her campaign-suspending speech. I’ll keep waiting, as the odds of her delivering it go up on an hourly basis. Question for the class, is Joe-Blue-Collar-Six-Pack going to part with his $100 to retire her debt? Queen of the Little People, indeed!

  • Three straight posts on this topic.
    Man… you are really beating a dead horse.
    Thank you. She has earned the whipping.

    By the way…
    If Barack offers to use any of the money I sent him to retire Clinton’s debt…
    I will be furious. He won’t see another penny from me. I don’t own the Clintons a vote…. or a living.
    Of course I realize that this is just Russert blowing a fabricated peace pipe in our faces.
    Still… the idea makes me sizzle.

  • Cheezburger,

    You’re missing the fact that the primary was barely underway after Iowa, whereas at this point it’s basically over. Clinton has no more chances; with the number of states remaining there’s no way she can overtake Obama’s lead in delegates or the popular vote or even narrow it to the point of presenting a convincing case to the superdelegates. She’s out of money, out of time, and out of chances.

  • This is exactly what happened in Iowa and it just energized Hillary’s base and helped her come back in New Hampshire. What am I missing?

    That was about “momentum” which has been nonexistent as a factor in this primary. The current media realization is based on mathematics. Last night was the last big chunk of votes and delegates and the last chance for a game changer. 20 point wins and West Virginia and Kentucky are not going to do anything for her.

  • From a strong post at AmericaBlog:

    “First, a top Clinton aide admits now what we’ve been saying. They lost a long time ago:

    “Absent some sort of miracle on May 31st, it’s going to be tough for us,” said a senior Clinton official who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to be frank. “We lost this thing in February. We’re doing everything we can now . . . but it’s just an uphill battle.”

    So, they knew they lost in February, but decided to stay in to destroy Obama? Factor in all the money troubles and you have to ask why the Clinton team kept up its negative assault on Obama.”
    http://www.americablog.com/2008/05/clinton-official-tells-wash-post-we.html

    They intend to keep at it, and since no one would have won a bet on Hillary taking the high road, I bet they’ll continue with the kitchen sink. It will be as Jon Stewart predicted: As Obama takes the oath of office, Hillary will still be campaigning.

    As much as I look forward to having a united Dem party running hard against McCain from now until November, I expect Hillary will continue to feed the cognitive dissonance that creates BAC’s post above, and keeps our party from coming together.

  • Boehlert had an interesting column last week about how it is unprecedented for pundits to decide when a candidate is done campaigning for the presidency. It has NEVER been done in the past. This column is excellent support for the fact that there has been an unceasing call for Clinton to quit ever since she began running. If she listens, she is not the candidate we think she is.

  • Russert and crew have been pronouncing Hillary Clinton dead for months now,

    In which alternate reality?

    He said PA would go for Clinton, he would win NC and that IN would be the tie breaker.

    This bit of silly spin comes straight from HRC herself, and neatly ignores the fact that these primaries aren’t winner-take-all, so “winning” them by small margins is pretty meaningless. What matters are delegate counts, in which Obama increased his margin yesterday. Not may more delegates up for grabs, and the Clinton margin is moving the wrong direction.

    In my heart I believe Hillary would be a stronger GE candidate than Obama.

    Well I guess that settles that then.

  • Boehlert had an interesting column last week about how it is unprecedented for pundits to decide when a candidate is done campaigning for the presidency.

    Really? So Ron Paul is being treated as if he has a credible chance at the Republican nomination? I think not.

  • If anything she may fight on just to show the media elite that they do not control her.

    Do what’s best for the Democratic party? Nahhh …

    Do what’s best for Democratic chances in November? Nahhh …

    Do what’s best to satiate Hillary’s ego? You betchya!

    That attitude right there is why I’ve lost a mountain of respect for Clinton — she’s gotten to the point where winning is the only thing that matters.

    For her, it’s not about what’s best for the party or its chances in November, but what’s best for satisfying her own ambition. If that means pandering, using GOP tactics, and insulting those she used to hail, then so be it.

    It’s a disgusting side of her I wish I had never seen.

  • Hillary may be the first candidate in history to leave looking stronger than when she entered it. Hanging on at this point is overkill, but the Clinton reputation for trench warfare and tenacity is in tact.

  • The order is: Commence “Operation America:” the waging of unrestricted warfare upon Camp McPhony.

  • I really think it’s the opposite. The media has been fanning the flames of a neck and neck horserace that hasn’t existed for months. Last night as Obama galloped down the stretch, Hillary hadn’t rounded the final turn and was out of sight. The truth was so nakedly evident that the pundits were finally compelled to confront it.

    There simply hasn’t been any dynamic that would change the race. There have been sideshows ad nauseum that media pundits have beat the drums about, but the fundamentals remained the same. The public, by and large, prefers Obama to Hillary. We can argue until doomsday about why, but we can’t change the basic fact.

    The lesson we should learn is that a campaign consisting of God knows how many primaries should be significantly compressed in time so this doesn’t happen again.

    Imagine if the general election were run this way. State by state, over months and months. Would that be madness or what?

    It makes about as much sense as stretching the Kentucky Derby out nine weeks or so, every Saturday running another furlough.

  • Oh my goodness !
    This is what a national primary looks like. By the time, we get done, every Democrat in the country will have had a chance to vote on the nominee of the Democratic party. Who wins (Obama) will have been chosen by Democratic voters and caucus goers — not by a combination of media gasbags and big donors deciding who is “viable.” The votes will be counted and the winner declared. It appears that Obama will be the winner.

    Is the Democratic Party ready for democracy? Or do we want to continue giving the media the power to declare one candidate the winner while the weather is still cold? Candidates will stay in as long as they can raise money directly from voters, through the net, to stay in. What’s wrong with that? The media had the power to pick our candidates in 2004 and they decided that Dean was done after Iowa. That was the old system. Why would we be angry at Hillary for not following the media’s drumbeat? Or is it, that we like Media Power when it backs our favored candidate and don’t like when it doesn’t?

    It’s a new world — and it’s a better world !

  • After waking up to the results on NPR, I turned on CNBC and saw “Split Decision” as the headline. I’m pleased to see the others were a bit more realistic.

  • “It’s a disgusting side of her I wish I had never seen.”

    Same. I was surprised to see her turn into…. *gulp* …. a Republican during this campaign. Well, at least now the media is working to Obama’s advantage, ie, if they say something’s true, it must be. So, I guess we can expect to see Clinton drop out within the next week.

  • BAC in #9: I have serious concerns about whether or not Obama can beat McCain in the fall. I will go out on a limb here and say that he can’t, unless Hillary Clinton stays engaged in this election to help him. She has said that she will.

    And she has done the exact opposite of what she says she will do. They knew it was over a long time ago, but they have kept on, in hopes that America would turn on Obama and then to her, even though she’s viewed by most of us (now) as a liar.

    I have no idea what drives the Clintons, but like Mark D, I wish I had never seen this side of her. She better hope Obama wins (and work hard for that) or the voters of NY will throw her out on her ass next time she’s up for election.

  • “I was surprised to see her turn into…. *gulp* …. a Republican during this campaign.”

    It happened long before this campaign. Maybe you missed this 6 YEARS AGO:

    Measure Title: A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.
    Vote Counts: YEAs 77
    NAYs 23

    Clinton (D-NY), Yea

  • “…that nothing has changed.”

    Yes you could say that except that in a horse race having a two length lead in the backstretch is not the same as having a two length lead at the Eighth Pole. In other words, she has run out of track and doesn’t have time left in order to stage a comeback.

    Obama has held his lead down the stretch.

  • What Hark said. The story today is:

    “Media can no longer fool public into thinking ‘horse race’ isn’t over”

    These are the same idiots who finally realized Iraq was a clusterfuck about three years after it began to be one.

    Shills, for the most part. High paid shills.

  • Hitlery would be a great choice as VP for McInsane – a World of War without end.

    these neocons and traitors will reap the whirlwind brothers and sisters.

    They don’t look at the bright side – by losing the chances are they will not be frog-marched to the Hague to face war crime trials!

  • I invented a new word this morning: Sidamoh.

    It’s an acronym for Shut It Down And Move On, Hillary.

    It’s pronounced suh-DOM-oh. (Or Saddam-O.)

    Feel free to use this new word as a shorthand way of expressing your belief that Hillary should concede defeat, make peace with Obama, and begin campaigning for Obama and against John McBush.

  • From today WSJ “But his victory in North Carolina depended heavily on his overwhelming (91%) share of the black vote, which made up about a third of the primary electorate. Mrs. Clinton won 61% of white Democrats in North Carolina, according to the exit polls, and 65% of white Democrats in Indiana. Mrs. Clinton also broke even among independents. Clearly Mr. Obama’s early promise of a transracial, postpartisan coalition has dimmed as the campaign has progressed and voters have learned more about him.” I guess Russert is the one that gets to decide when and who … but may not be in the best interest of the party, the nation and the americans fighting in Irak.

  • King Arthur: Look, you stupid Bastard. You’ve got no arms left.
    Black Knight: Yes I have.
    King Arthur: *Look*!
    Black Knight: It’s just a flesh wound.

  • Russert suggested Obama would help Clinton retire her campaign debt (and pay off Mark Penn’s bills) as part of an exit deal.

    Pig-at-the-trough Mark Penn needs to get stiffed. He didn’t do anything to earn his megabucks. He’s a goddamned asswipe.

  • On May 7th, 2008 at 10:18 am, BAC said:
    Russert and crew have been pronouncing Hillary Clinton dead for months now, and clearly the voters don’t feel the same way.
    ________________

    Sorry, but I’m calling straight-up bullsh!t on this one. The Clinton campaign and the media have been feeding each other for months now. Clinton kept fighting, so the media kept saying she had a shot, so she continued to garner support, so Clinton kept fighting, so the media kept saying she had a shot, so she kept gaining support (though not as much, and progressively less so) so Clinton kept fighting…

    No matter how bleak the math looked, few if any in the media were saying that it was essentially over, and thus she continued to garner some support, though it started to siphon away. Not that the media neccarily needed to stick a fork in her, but they were spinning away from the reality of the situation, making it look like a much MUCH tighter race than it was. And they WANTED it to be a tighter race than it was. Not only is the “No unity in the Democratic party” a more dramatic story to pursue, but by pursuing it, they got to give their favorite maverick slash BBQ chef McCain a free ride for a couple of months. If the media could’ve spinned it any longer, they would’ve. But they can’t. Because short of a superdelegate coupl it really is over for Hillary.

    So again, I call bullsh!t. The media kept this going as long as they could, but to continue to spin this as a tight race would now make them look even stupider than they feel comfortable looking.

  • I’ve got a suggestion for Senator Obama. You want this to end? Go up to Bill Clinton and apologize for calling the 1990’s a decade where Washington did nothing for Americans. -Lance

    Would Obama’s apology undo NAFTA and the Telecom Bill of 1996?

    And while we’re demanding apologies, how about Hills apologize for the Iraq war and potentially the Iran war?

    Obama need not speak to Bill to end this. Bill and Hillary just need to wake up. It’s already over.

  • He said PA would go for Clinton, he would win NC and that IN would be the tie breaker. -BAC

    I guess he underestimated the Limbaugh Effect. Without his moron army at her command, she’d have lost.

    …it is unprecedented for pundits to decide when a candidate is done campaigning for the presidency… -Stoopid

    I would imagine Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, even John Edwards would disagree with your drivel.

    Hillary’s existence in this race was only allowed by the media. Any one but a Clinton would have been driven out already. The media can no longer keep her in this race because America isn’t buying it anymore.

    Clearly Mr. Obama’s early promise of a transracial, postpartisan coalition has dimmed… -Also Stoopid

    Yeah, because 90% of blacks and 40% of whites isn’t a multi-racial coalition. Right. By your own comment, blacks made up about 1/3 of the primary population. So out of 100 voters, 33 are black and Obama got votes from 30 of them; 66 are white, and Obama got 26 of their votes. Clinton, conversely got 40 white votes and 3 black votes.

    So who has a biracial coalition and who doesn’t? You’re as inept at math and allergic to the truth as your chosen candidate.

  • The only loser when Hillary finally pulls out will be the Corporate Media. They are the ones beating the dead horse. They are the ones making money, money, money off of the horse race. They get to do and say whatever they want to tear both of them down.

    It’s time to go Dem v. Gooper…and I personally cannot wait for Obama to make McCain’s head explode during the runup to the GE.

    We need to turn our attention solely to making every person in this country aware of McCain, his policies (or lack thereof), his ideas, his virtual marriage to Bush, his flipping and flopping, and everything else that needs to get out to EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN.

    I give Hillary kudos for a good start, but her turning into Rovian lite is not helping anyone and every person who knows anything about McCain needs to start working towards that awareness.

  • It’s way beyond a self-fulfilling prophesy on the part of the media. At some point in the discussion, spin has to give way to objective reality. In this race, the reality is that the race is over. Whether you’re an Obama supporter (as I am) or a Clinton supporter, the reality of the race is the same: Barack Obama has won and it’s time for everyone to move on in the most constructive manner possible. This is not meant to be dismissive of Senator Clinton, it is only meant to state what must now be obvious. As Winston Churchill once said, “The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.”

  • Russert reads Drudge.

    Jim Rutenberg
    NY Times 5-7-08

    “The Drudge Report, the online news billboard that is the home page to many political reporters in Washington and news producers in New York.”

  • NO WAY!!! My vote (for Hillary), & my Delegate’s vote (for Hillary) have yet to be counted! The DNC would have to be suicidal to Not seat ALL the Florida & Michigan Delegates & count ALL their votes.
    As long as Hillary has any chance of winning, I (& she) demand to continue to fight no matter what the talking heads say! ! This IS still a Democracy!

    That empty, inexperienced, newbie windbag Obama will lose against McCain!
    Stealing (by not counting) my vote would be UNFORGIVEABLE & I’ll & so, so many of my fellow Floridians as well as fellow Democrats throughout this country will NEVER Vote Democratic again!!
    DON’T YOU DARE SCREW WITH MY VOTE!!!

  • @ 45: [FROTH!]

    Take it up with your state’s Democratic Party leadership. They’re the ones who screwed it up for you. In the mean time, you need new medication.

  • What Belligerent Academic. Personally, methinks William in FL is being melodramatic for chucks and giggles, but I’m sure there are plenty of people out there who really do think like he does. It’s the fault of the state party elders. They agreed to rules and broke ’em. Sorry their punishment affects you, but blame them, and tell ’em not to do it again in 2012.

  • I think the corporate media may try to milk the primary season for one more round of “Comeback?” stories after solid Clinton victories in West Virginia and Kentucky, in which they’ll try to depict her as a combination of Rocky and Seabiscuit. However, the money and the math are inescapable.

  • Don’t worry. The Florida delegates will be seated. After they don’t matter any more. Which will be very soon.

  • Obama need not speak to Bill to end this. Bill and Hillary just need to wake up. It’s already over.

    Actually, it still comes down to what it has been down to for a while: Superdelegates.

    If Dean was as good of a leader as he is an organizer, the Supers would all come out in the next week and support a candidate. If Obama gets to the 2025 number, it’s over. If he doesn’t, it goes to the convention. The Supers can end this damn thing TODAY if they really wanted to but, for whatever reason, they have chosen not to.

    As far as the whole “let everyone vote!!” line, everyone will still get to vote.* It’s just that, like in years past with the Dems and this year with the GOP, the nomination would be wrapped up by then. So quit your whining.

    **As far as FL and MI go, complaints should be directed toward the state party leaders who chose to break the rules. They are the ones who screwed it up. And just because Hillary chose to break her promise not to campaign and put herself on the ballot — a promise the other candidates upheld — doesn’t change anything … well, except for my opinion of Clinton, which has gone from respect of a strong, intelligent woman to disdain for a win-at-all-costs egomaniac.

  • Hey Racer X is still at it, and joined forces with someone named Mark D., who thinks it is unAmerican (read your earlier response) for Hillary to stay in the race until she is voted (yes, I said VOTED out….by ALL the American people.) How could you deny the privilege of voting to the remaining Americans who still have to cast their votes? THAT is unAmerican, Mark, according to the rules of a Democracy. But Many of us know the truth. You just can’t STAND to see a smart (smarter than you, probably), well-spoken woman in the White House, who has the charisma, vivacity, and nerve to actually pull this off. QUIT? I just gave her more money. THIS IS A RACE FOR THE MOST POWERFUL PERSON IN THE WORLD, not an Olympic medal winner or a contest to see who stays on the basketball team in high school. Why should she give up????

  • joan–
    Thank you for exposing your stupidity to the whole world by:

    1. Thinking that ALL Americans get to vote in primaries. They don’t. In fact, many primaries only allow those with state party affiliations to vote. Are those states are all “unAmerican” in your eyes? If not, why not?

    2. Thinking you have any clue whatsoever to what I believe. (Hint: If I was afraid of smart, well-spoken women, I wouldn’t have married one.)

    3. Thinking that I ever stated Clinton doesn’t have a right to keep campaigning. I think it’d be best if she gracefully admitted reality, but she can keep campaigning all she wants She just has to realize that by doing so, she is destroying the party she claims to love and is turning a lot of former supporters against her.

    As far as your last point:

    Why should she give up????

    How do I put this in a way you can understand … ?

    BECAUSE SHE CANNOT WIN THE NOMINATION WITHOUT DESTROYING THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!!

    The only way she can win is for every last Super to vote for her (they won’t), for her to win every remaining election by 80 percentage points (ain’t gonna happen) or by getting pledged delegates to ignore the will of the people and change their votes at the convention from him to her (thus subverting the “will of the people” you are so keen on defending).

    The first two won’t happen, and the last one would send millions out of the Democratic party.

    Is her ego really worth that? You seem to think so.

    Other than that, please … KEEP TYPING IN ALL CAPS! That’s what people do when all they have are insults, rather than any fact-based argument.

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