The other consequence of war

When we think about the enormous costs associated with the war in Iraq, we generally consider the deaths, injuries, hundreds of billions of dollars, the increased threat of terrorism, and the weakened international standing.

But once in a while, it’s important to remember some of the underreported consequences — such as the ability to respond to a domestic disaster.

The rebuilding effort in tornado-ravaged Greensburg, Kansas, likely will be hampered because some much-needed equipment is in Iraq, said that state’s governor.

Governor Kathleen Sebelius said much of the National Guard equipment usually positioned around the state to respond to emergencies is gone. She said not having immediate access to things like tents, trucks and semitrailers will really handicap the rebuilding effort.

The Greensburg administrator estimated that 95 percent of the town of 1500 was destroyed by Friday’s tornado.

The Kansas National Guard has about 40 percent of the equipment it is allotted because much of it has been sent to Iraq.

Some on the right are suggesting that Sebelius should have back-up emergency response equipment. Why didn’t we think of that? Let’s have every state in the Union create emergency infrastructure twice — once for a disastrous open-ended war, and again for in-state use. Please.

TP added:

This morning on CNN, Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (D) said that the state is missing vital National Guard equipment because of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Usually the state has approximately 70-80 percent of its equipment at any given time, but it currently has just 40-50 percent. She added that these shortages “will just make it [recovery] that much slower.”

According to a recent report by a congressional commission, nearly “90 percent of Army National Guard units in the United States are rated ‘not ready,” largely “as a result of shortfalls in billions of dollars’ worth of equipment.” A January Government Accountability Office analysis found that the Pentagon “does not adequately track National Guard equipment needs for domestic missions” and as a consequence, “state National Guards may be hampered in their ability to plan for responding to large-scale domestic events.”

Sebelius added that Kansas is trying to borrow equipment from other states, but without National Guard personnel and resources, it’s an uphill climb. “When the troops get deployed, the equipment goes with them,” she said.

The war has weakened the country in a variety of ways, but we’re now at a point at which even responding to disasters and emergencies is tougher than it should be.

This was horribly on display during post-Katrina as well. There is no doubt that Louisiana in particular would have been much better able to at least provide water and food to those stuck in N.O., as well as go in to N.O. to remove people, if Louisiana’s National Guard (as well as the Guard of surrounding states) were not stretched thin by the Iraq war policy.

  • The same thing happened during Katrina.

    Another cost war: the hundreds of billions in interest we owe Communist China for financing this insanity.

  • Once again Dubya proves that he doesn’t give a shit about the people in America. Actually, he doesn’t give a shit about people in any country. If this doesn’t spell it out for the rest of that 28% that are supporting this moron than I don’t know what will.

  • I have a bitter laugh when I read about how the Iraq war is “only hurting the soldiers and their families” and how the rest of the country is “unaffected”.

    “Unaffected” my fat ass! Katrina and these tornados show how badly the entire country has been affected by this debacle. How many of the billions being wasted could have been put to work providing goods and services here at home, shoring up OUR infrastructure, giving OUR people better health care and schools?

    Why doesn’t anyone write about the “effect” this war has had and will continue to have on our once-great country?

  • The rebuilding effort in tornado-ravaged Greensburg, Kansas, likely will be hampered because some much-needed equipment is in Iraq, said that state’s governor.

    Suggestion: Suck it up.
    Kansas went Bush.
    Sometimes even in a democracy you get the crap you voted for.

    “.”

  • So Kanye West wasn’t entirely accurate… Bush doesn’t care about white people either…

  • So Kanye West wasn’t entirely accurate… Bush doesn’t care about white people either…

    You gotta watch your logic, Ohioan, #8. That Bush cares about no one but himself does not make Kanye’s statement that Bush doesn’t care about black people not accurate. It is entirely accurate, but it doesn’t accurately describe the entirety of the situation.

  • ROTFLMLiberalAO wrote:

    Suggestion: Suck it up.
    Kansas went Bush.
    Sometimes even in a democracy you get the crap you voted for.

    What about the folks that voted for the Dems? Do they deserve this too? I know my mom voted a straight Democratic ticket in Ohio, but that didn’t matter when they counted the votes.

  • I couldn’t believe this analysis of the AP story at Newbusters.org:

    Bush Derangement Syndrome at AP: ‘Iraq War Hampers Kansas [Tornado] Cleanup’
    In 2005, Bush Derangement Syndrome — the as of yet inexplicable malady effecting much of the left whereby anything bad that happens on the planet can be tied to the White House — peaked with continuous press accusations that Hurricane Katrina was the President’s fault.

    Almost two years later, and just hours after tornadoes devastated the Midwest, the President is being indirectly blamed for potentially hampering rebuilding efforts in the hardest hit area.

    I kid you not.

    As reported by the Associated Press late Sunday evening with the headline “Iraq War Hampers Kansas Cleanup” (emphasis added):

    The rebuilding effort in tornado-ravaged Greensburg, Kansas, likely will be hampered because some much-needed equipment is in Iraq, said that state’s governor.

    Governor Kathleen Sebelius said much of the National Guard equipment usually positioned around the state to respond to emergencies is gone. She said not having immediate access to things like tents, trucks and semitrailers will really handicap the rebuilding effort.

    […]

    The Kansas National Guard has about 40 percent of the equipment it is allotted because much of it has been sent to Iraq.
    Please notice that the article conveniently omitted the Governor’s party affiliation, which not surprisingly is Democrat.

    I am still trying to understand Noel Sheppard’s point. Is he saying that Governor Sebelius lied because she is a Democrat? If so, where is the evidence that she is lying? Or does Noel think that any statement made by a Democrat should be assumed to be a lie? There has been lots of testimony to Congress about the dire state of the country’s National Guard units because of their long service in Iraq.

    Noel continues:

    However, maybe most interesting is how the AP’s position was similar to the Iranian news agency Press TV’s (emphasis added):

    Search continues after a massive tornado obliterated most of Kansas’s Greensburg, amid claims that rescue efforts are hampered by war in Iraq.

    […]

    Governor Kathleen Sebelius said Sunday evening that the state’s response will likely be hampered because much of the equipment usually positioned around the state to respond to emergencies, including tents, trucks and semi-trailers, is now in Iraq.

    “Not having the National Guard equipment, which used to be positioned in various parts of the state, to bring in immediately is really going to handicap this effort to rebuild,” said Sebelius.

    Much like the AP, this Iranian news outlet ignored the Governor’s party affiliation, while leading with the connection to the Iraq war.

    Isn’t that special?

    That’s it – AP is suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome because an Iranian news outlet (which probably doesn’t have any reporters in Kansas) ran a story similar to the AP story. Was Noel Sheppard arguing that he has Bush Derangement Syndrome? Because that is what I see.

  • Nothing has been fixed since before Katrina, and nothing will be fixed until we restore competence to the federal government. They diverted funds from a scheduled New Orleans flood control project in 2003 to pay for the Iraq war. We should not be surprised by any of this. They didn’t want to raise taxes, in fact they wanted to cut taxes, so this is what we get: no services. These thugs have stolen everything but the dome off the top of the capitol, and they have probably sold it in a secret deal to Dubai. Oh well, maybe the next disaster will hit Crawford.

  • GRACIOUS wrote: “They didn’t want to raise taxes, in fact they wanted to cut taxes, so this is what we get: no services. ”

    I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: The Democrats should adopt a slogan along the lines of: “If you want a government which is competent, and not corrupt, don’t elect Republicans who think that government is ALWAYS incompetent and ALWAYS corrupt.”

  • “90 percent of Army National Guard units in the United States are rated ‘not ready,” largely “as a result of shortfalls in billions of dollars’ worth of equipment.”

    Even the active duty force is getting stretched to the breaking point:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/20/us/20army.html?ei=5088&en=4fe5ca80b6708d8d&ex=1332043200&pagewanted=print

    “So let’s get something straight right now. To point out that our military has been overextended, taken for granted and neglected, that’s no criticism of the military. That is criticism of a president and vice president and their record of neglect. ”

    Hmm, now who said that?……

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0011/03/se.04.html

  • “Currently, the Kansas National Guard has 88 percent of its forces available, 60 percent of its Army Guard dual-use equipment on hand, and more than 85 percent of its Air Guard equipment on hand, said Randal Noller, public affairs officer for the National Guard Bureau. Under the Emergency Management Assistance Compact, which is a national partnership agreement that allows state-to-state assistance during governor or federally declared emergencies, Kansas has more than 400,000 Guardsmen available to it, he pointed out. However, Kansas has not yet requested assistance from other states.

    “The National Guard Bureau has offered liaison, operational, communications, contracting, search-and-rescue, public affairs and community relations support, and is prepared to support the governor in any way possible, Noller said.”
    ( http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=33080 )

    All you have to do is ASK, Governor. CNN and AP could possibly also provide some shovels.

  • Wonderful numbers, stevesh—consider this my personal invitation for you to “blow it out your fat Bu$hylvanian posterior.”

    http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d0670.pdf/

    Here’s a nice little report from the GAO. It didn’t circulate very much; you might recognize the two members of Congress to whom the report was addresssed, being that they were “ranking Minority members in January 2007.” But let’s not dawdle over trivialities, shall we?

    The map on p. 27 of the report identifies that Kansas’ overall dual-use equipment inventory is at 50.6%. Looks like your “60%” doesn’t stack up like it should. But if we go on just a wee bit further, we’ll find on p. 28 the actual numbers that reflect authorized national inventory numbers for specific items that Kansas might be in need of, followed by the actual percentage of that item currentl;y available to non-deployed units (those units you so proudly boast as being “available”):

    Dump trucks, 799/0. Of the 799 trucks currently authorized for NG inventories—on a nationwide basis, mind you—0% are available for use by non-deployed units. 0% equates as 0 trucks, stevesh. What pit latrine did you pull that “60%” out of?

    Diesel generators, 267/2. Of the 267 generators authorized for the nationwide inventory, a whopping 2%—just under five-and-a-half generators—are available for non-deployed forces. Hey, stevesh—where’d that big six-oh of yours come from, eh?

    Cargo trailers, 5,656/9. What is that—about 540 to 550 trucks for the whole damned country? Divide by 50, you blithering Bu$hRat, and tell me how you’re going to clean up and haul away an entirely-wiped-out town with less than 6 cargo trailers.

    SatCom terminals, 40/10. Four SatCom terminals—for the entire nation? You have got to be freaking kidding me. It requires 40 just to maintain training and readiness—and the non-deployed forces have access to just 4?

    Tell your warped friends at de”fraud”link.mil to learn how to count, stevesh—and come back when you can quote some actual fact-based numbers. Truck and generator shortages are not compensated for with surplus MRE’s and spare parts for M-1 carbines…you doofus….

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