The politics of Obama’s speech on race in America

Following up on my earlier analysis of the address, I’ve seen a few suggestions this afternoon that the downside of Barack Obama’s speech on race today in Philadelphia, which emerged before he even uttered a word, is that Obama was putting race front and center, once again. Instead of moving on to other subjects, the argument goes, and pushing the Rev. Jeremiah Wright off the front page, Obama kept the focus where he doesn’t want it. Indeed, watching the address, one got the impression at times that the senator would have preferred if he were talking about something else.

While I understand the argument, I’m still inclined to think the speech served a valuable political purpose, which, barring widespread media malpractice, will ultimately help Obama’s chances.

First, I suspect if Obama tried to change the subject without addressing Wright questions in more detail, it wouldn’t have worked. The “controversy” still had legs, and the powers that be still wanted to hear Obama answer their questions in more depth. Yes, the speech guaranteed a new round of coverage, but as more a coda than an intro.

Second, as Jonathan Chait noted today, Obama’s speech went a long way towards moving past Wright and Ferraro, and preventing the campaign from being “defined by racial tiffs.”

Obama did a couple things toward that end. The first was to discuss white and black racial grievance in a sophisticated way. This was the answer to critics who say he thinks he can transcend race, or wipe away the sins of racism merely through becoming president. You can’t accuse him of simply trying to float above racial issues.

Secondly, he give himself a pivot to define the racialized discourse as something he wants to rise above. He’s willing to discuss race on his terms — in subtle and sophisticated ways. He refuses to engage in a daily tit-for-tat about Wright, Ferraro, the race card, and all the rest. […]

That’s the message of the speech going forward: I just spoke at length and in depth about race, but from now on my campaign is not going to be about race. That’s where I think he’s going to go with this.

Agreed. In fact, there are already indications that Obama is ready, to borrow a phrase, turn the page.

This press release hit my inbox about an hour ago:

Chicago, IL– Tomorrow, Wednesday, March 19, 2008, five years after the Iraq war began, Senator Barack Obama will deliver a major speech on the war in Iraq and our national security in Fayetteville, NC. Senator Obama will discuss how ending the war in Iraq is necessary for the United States to meet the national security challenges of the 21st century, and to advance American interests throughout the world.

On Thursday, March 20, 2008, Senator Barack Obama will deliver a major speech on Iraq and the economy in Charleston, West Virginia, where he will address the costs of the war in Iraq on our economy.

Even in this morning’s speech, Obama hinted that this shift was coming. He said, “We can accept a politics that breeds division, and conflict, and cynicism…. but if we do, I can tell you that in the next election, we’ll be talking about some other distraction. And then another one. And then another one. And nothing will change…. Or, at this moment, in this election, we can come together and say, ‘Not this time.'”

In retrospect, Obama almost seemed to be saying, “Yes, this discussion on race is important, and yes, reasonable questions deserve answers. But anyone who thinks I’m going to keep this as the centerpiece of the campaign is crazy.”

Post Script: One last thought. Anyone who still believes Obama is a Muslim, after all of this, probably needs some kind of medication.

I think symbolically, giving this particular speech in Philadelphia will resonate for quite some time.

I’m a little surprised that the campaign isn’t planning on milking it for a few days before giving another major speech. But, I appreciate that giving these major addresses will boost the profile of his campaign and increase the substantiveness of his appeal to voters in these primary states.

  • “Anyone who still believes Obama is a Muslim, after all of this, probably needs some kind of medication.”

    Surely, some knuckle-draggers and the very poorly informed still will. But I see this idea as a very bright silver lining to this whole affair. Hopefully that nonsense has been put to bed for good, at least in the mainstream media and political discussions.

    The speech was excellent, by the way, and that he’s immediately planning to keep the ball rolling and move right on to a similar speech on the way is brilliant strategy.

  • An unavoidable subtext to this speech and about Obama’s style in general is that Barack had a problem and decided to tackle it head-on. It’s a statement of our political times that so many of us are shocked that he didn’t bob-and-weave, skirt the issue, play the victim card or play any of the usual political games that politicians do when caught in a difficult spot.

    By pointing to the elephant in the room that everyone knew was there but refused to acknowledge, Barack took the first step that everyone must do to solve anything: he recognized the problem and began addressing it.

    We’re going to need political bravery in our next president and Barack is demonstrating he has that.

  • I think symbolically, giving this particular speech in Philadelphia will resonate for quite some time.

    Me too. As I noted in another thread, MSNBC just referred to it as the most important speech on race relations since the “I Have a Dream” address.

  • In the wide swath of destruction that George Bush has wrought lies the bloody remains of America’s moral authority. What was once our greatest asset is now a crippling liability.

    Today Barack Obama demonstrated that he is the only candidate for President who embodies and expresses the moral authority that Americans want to see restored. John McCain compromised on torture. Hillary Clinton compromised on everything else.

    This speech defines Barack Obama as a President and a leader, regardless whether it helps or hurts him in his quest for votes. We’re lucky to have him.

  • Petorado – Good point, and it’s one I hope will be made repeatedly. Obama deserves credit for taking on problem head-on. Not only did he give this speech, one of the bravest, most thoughtful, and risky speeches I’ve seen in a long time – possibly during my lifetime – but he sat for two 90-minute interviews with the staffs of the Chicago Sun and the Chicago Review. He answered every question they had, leaving them satisfied that he’d disclosed as much as possible and that there was no “there” there.
    The contrast between him and Hillary and her tax returns, etc., and McCain and his inconvenient endorsements – which he sought – by anti-Catholic, anti-Semitic extremists Hagee and Parsley, is very vivid.
    Can anyone imagine Hillary or McCain tackling a problem with anything but spin, evasion and counterattack? These troubling times call for a president who actually wants to get things done and extricate this country from its post-9/11, post-Bush, post-Clinton quagmire.

  • Barack:

    “We can accept a politics that breeds division, and conflict, and cynicism…. but if we do, I can tell you that in the next election, we’ll be talking about some other distraction. And then another one. And then another one. And nothing will change…. Or, at this moment, in this election, we can come together and say, ‘Not this time.’”

    Yes coda. The door has been shut.
    The teachable moment taught…
    But don’t forget the leitmotif: He threads his messages with hooks that resonate like the redundant chords found in good pop music. Very cool. Because if you hope to be heard in a culture that shocks us dumb with a firestorm of information, you’ve got to know which tasty bars to play again and again.

    It’s deeply thematic. It’s politics as careful craft.
    It is your brain on Barack Obama’s heady prose…
    “Not this time.” “Yes we can.” Up is up. Down is down.
    All of this overlain and decorated with wisdom.

    This guy is in his own league.
    God knows where the inspiration for all this comes from.
    But… after watching all this unfold, it is safe to say: Politics too… can be an art form.

    ~~~~~~~~~~
    Post Script: One last thought. Anyone who still believes Obama is a Muslim, after all of this, probably needs some kind of medication.

    Aye. Not even Cheney’s 18% Dead-Ender club will be able to blow smoke from that evil pipe again… I imagine even Greg and Mary and Comeback Swan must, with great Christian humility, admit to his Christianity.

  • Well said MFI @ #5.

    Now let’s get back to business and tackle Iraq and the economy. Brilliant strategy on Obama’s part.

  • …barring widespread media malpractice…

    You know what? If we had some ham we could have some ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.

  • During Obama’s long winded speech he admitted to being in the audience during controversial sermons, and would not denounce reverand Wright, and attempted to denounce what he said, as if the man and his words were seperate, and this from a man who tells us to take him on his words and not his experience.

    Isn’t it something how according to Obama words should mean a lot when it comes to himself, but not so much when it comes to Jeremiah Wright!

    Reverand Wright was very close to Obama, he married him, baptized his children, was his pastor for 20 years, and was a close trusted advisor, and Obama failed to answer why he did not leave this church when he heard sermons he strongly disagreed with, instead he tried to explain why this hate exists and gave excuses.

    I am sick to my stomach, his nomination would not be good for Democrats as it would certainly lead to a presidential contest which will involve HUGE divisiveness due to the fact that Rev. Wright’s remarks were not just racial in nature, but also he said “God damn America” for our sins which offends a whole lot of Americans, white & black.

    I beg of you to stop making excuses for this man, he is obviously too closely related to Jeremiah Wright to distance himself.

  • I’m particularly looking forward to the one in Charleston, on Iraq and our effed up economy. I’ve long had a feeling that the connection between the two is not made often enough or forcefully enough (except, maybe, at Think Progress). It could be because, on the dark side, they’d as soon avoid seeing the connection (and the blame). On our side, I think we’re either too timid or too nice to make the connection, because it might look like we’re putting a price on the lives (now nearly 4000) of those who perished in the I-wreck fiasco. But, if anyone is likely to tackle *that* elephant in the room with any degree of clarity and forcefulness, it’s gonna be Obama. The man has a clear vision, good understanding and a way of expressing things which resonate with people. And no fear of saying things which need to be said, right to your face, and damn the torpedoes.

    I wish we could clone him in thousands 🙂

  • ROTFLMLiberalAO @ 7

    I never said he was a Muslim, but would you argue that if he where that he’d be better off? This problem is not going away, I’m afraid for the future of our party if he continues to drag this out.

  • Of course, a candidate’s race or gender should not have anything to do with their electability. And of course, in one way or another, it will.

    I do find it interesting that Obama has now had to make a “very important speech” on race relations, but Clinton has not had to do the same about gender. To my knowledge, the Obama camp has done nothing to make gender an issue in this race. He’d be crazy to do so. And yet, here he is, forced to respond to Ferraro and the Wright controversy like he’s done something wrong. And yet he has responded as ably as any person could. Sounds like he’s got what it takes to me.

  • Greg, your spin is so transparent, persistent and predictable that it’s become tiresome.

  • Well, Obama just hit another one out of the park. He’s been looking at low balls, curve balls and slime balls, but with a great eye, great wrists and a great mind, he connects most every time…

    Can you say, “President Obama?” Yes, we can.

  • Reverand [sic] Wright was very close to Obama, he married him… -Greg

    Well, I know that’s not true! Two men cannot get married in Illinois!

    …also he said “God damn America” for our sins… -Greg

    Please, we all know what he said and many of us have espoused our support for the sentiment if not the phrasing.

    “God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people,” he said
    in a 2003 sermon. “God damn America for treating our citizens as less than
    human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is
    supreme.”

    You denounce that? So I take it you fully support killing innocent people and treating our citizens as less than human?

    No, dear Clintroll, I’m afraid Wright is right. We’ve allowed our dear country to transform right before our very eyes into something we should all damn and we should all be ashamed of and neither Clinton or McCain are interested in changing the course we’re on.

    Have you ever thought about taking a cue from Alegre?

  • I hope Carpetbagger’s right about this, but I don’t think the pundit class is up to it. If tonight we see nothing but the same ridiculous narrative that Obama was attempting to shift us away from, then I fear not much will have changed.

  • I don’t think his speech closed the book on his relationship with Rev. Wright. In fact, he gave new fodder for the Right Wing Noise Machine to munch on. To me, the question that people are asking is, “What is Obama going to give the black community?” Hillary has a A Champion For Women webpage, which lays out what she is going to do for women. I haven’t found any equivalent on Obama’s website for the black community. The specter of Rev. Wright’s sermon is that Obama will do a lot to redress past discrimination against the black community (which whites will perceive to be at their expense). In his speech, he basically said he would do nothing to redress past discrimination against the black community, but he said it in such a long-winded fashion that it wasn’t clear he was saying that. The only way Obama is going to put this problem behind him is to bluntly say that he will do nothing to redress past discrimination against the black community. Until he does, the Right Wing Noise Machine will find plenty of ways to imply he will.

  • The speech didn’t address the real issues with Barack Obama on these stories that are coming to light and finally getting long over due coverage. The issue is not his growing list of associates that could cause one to pause and raise an eyebrow but rather it is his avoidance to address hard questions. Senator Obamas usual first response is a charming ambiguous answer. We do not like the fact that we have to count on the media to ask the same set of question 2 or 3 times before we get a answer that is straight forward and not a charming ambiguous response. Obama’s press release, The first part was good and had substance but then he went to pandering for his support base. He was so busy hitting us with the right words to reaffirm his voting base to make it anything more then a self serving political press release. The ending was incredible selfish and horrible. For him to have the gall to basically say Vote for me or you will be choosing to go down the wrong path was a total self pandering statement. The matter was already laid to rest for me a week ago. NOBAMA!

  • Yes, I’ve been wondering if the whole controversy might not be a positive, in the end, because it makes totally clear that Obama isn’t a Muslim.

  • Two things rubbed me the wrong way about Obama’s speech. First, he generously acknowledged that some whites harbor resentment about the focus on remedying wrongs against African Americans when they themselves are struggling. He went on to say that no one’s progress should be viewed as coming at the expense of someone else’s, when fat cats (not his word) are really to blame. The problem with that over-simplification of the views of working class whites is that there is a very evidence competition between Obama and Clinton and there can be only one winner in that race. His success will come at the expense of hers, and he is the less qualified candidate. Unless he can discredit her experience and smear her viability, he has no right to claim that he should be preferred over her. To many people, that is a direct contradiction of his statement that we should be focusing on righting wrongs, not competition among people who all have legitimate problems. The hypocrisy of this is inescapable.

    Second, he strongly implies that those who favor other candidates do so out of bigotry. The whole direction of his speech is to lead people to the point where striving against historical racism and toward unity means voting for him. He is most explicit about this in the anecdote where he says that the young girl who came to his campaign because of her mother’s illness could have gone a different direction had she been raised a different way (a way that led to bigotry, as enumerated in his examples). It should be possible to support Clinton without being considered a racist. It does nothing to further his goals of understanding across races to suggest that those white folks who do not support him and going a different way because they hate brown folks or were raised to fear immigrants, or whatever ugly scenario he can concoct. Some of us consider her the better qualified, more talented, harder working and more level-headed, certainly more pragmatic candidate with the toughness to win and to be an excellent leader. We support her because of those strengths, not for bigoted reasons.

    Obama phrased this cleverly but it is still there and it is ugly. It stands in stark contradiction to the surface message of his words. I might have believed him to be sincere were these things not present in his speech today.

    I am far from a neophyte when it comes to racial matters. Unlike many people here, I have read Nobles and Malcolm X and a variety of scholarly works on race in America. I have no lingering uncertainties about my own racial attitudes. I have attended other African American churches. I do not consider Wright to be simply angry, nor is he a throwback to the 60’s (I was alive then too). He represents a particular viewpoint that is inimical to the kind of racial harmony Obama says he seeks. Obama’s understanding of white resentments rings false. He announced today that he stands by his pastor and he will not say or do anything to distance himself from his African American supporters. I think it is wrong to applaud him for another bunch of empty words.

    If Obama were truly tolerant and interested in the problems of those from other racial groups, why does his campaign staff lack the diversity that Clinton’s has? Yes, he has lots of African Americans on his staff, but the rest are white and he has very few Asian or Hispanic staffers. Why would a man so acutely interested in racial harmony surround himself only with those from his own community? I don’t buy these words today because his actions don’t match his stated beliefs.

  • “I do find it interesting that Obama has now had to make a “very important speech” on race relations, but Clinton has not had to do the same about gender.”

    that is obvious, women are not amassing in huge numbers blaming men for the glass ceiling, equal pay, or demanding they be given unfair advantage when competing with men. Blacks are doing all those thing, and what’s more they turn around condemn the very establishment which hands them welfare checks and ensures affirmative action (America).

    I think they are still bitter about not getting their 40 acres and a mule. How’s that?

  • The issue is not his growing list of associates that could cause one to pause and raise an eyebrow but rather it is his avoidance to address hard questions.

    What are you smoking?

    The two biggest issues facing him have been the Rezko “scandal” and the inflamatory Wright comments.On Rezko, he sat down with the editorial board of the conservative Chicago Tribune for 90 minutes, answering every single question they had, and convincing them he was in the clear. On Wright, he wrote an op-ed, made a YouTube speech, and when that wasn’t good enough, wrote a 45-minute speech on the subject and delivered it live before a national audience.

    By comparison, we’re coming up on the one-year anniversary of Hillary Clinton’s promise to release her IRS returns for the past seven years — which Obama has already released to the public — and we’re only now getting promises that they’ll release records from the Clinton White House.

    Obama’s been getting hard questions the other two candidates haven’t gotten — any drumbeat on Norman Hsu? Hagee and Parsley? no? — and he’s answered them in full. What more could you possibly want?

  • Why on earth are so many Democrats concerned with what the ‘right wing noise machine’ will do leading up to November?

    We know what they will do: lie, smear, and distort any Democrat on any ballot. Period.

    For him to have the gall to basically say Vote for me or you will be choosing to go down the wrong path was a total self pandering statement. -Roger

    I’m sorry, Roger, but that has to be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read.

    All Presidential candidates are asking that of their supporters. If they didn’t think their way was the right way and didn’t intend on asking for people’s votes, they wouldn’t be in the race at all.

    If that’s the best criticism of Obama you can put into words, I don’t think he has any cause to worry.

    Seriously, he thinks his was is right and wants people to vote for him! The sky is falling! Have you met Greg? You’ll get along swimmingly.

  • Hillary has a A Champion For Women webpage, which lays out what she is going to do for women. I haven’t found any equivalent on Obama’s website for the black community.

    Yeah, it’s hidden away under a deceptive heading for “African Americans” under the “People” menu.

    The other Clinton Cultists have been complaining that Obama had a section for blacks but not whites. You all need to get your pathetic talking points in order so you don’t contradict each other.

  • I’m sorry, Roger, but that has to be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read.

    And remember, he’s read Mary’s comments here.

  • …no one’s progress should be viewed as coming at the expense of someone else’s… -Mary

    You’re honestly equating the philosophy that all Americans can prosper to success in the primary, and that by being successful he therefore can’t believe that all Americans can prosper?

    That is the most convoluted bit of logic twisting I’ve ever witnessed. Is there no conclusion your mind won’t jump to?

  • Diversity of campaign staffs was posted by Kevin Drum back during the early days of the campaigns when everyone was still in the race. Clinton’s was most diverse including large percentages of both African Americans and Hispanics, Obama was second but his staff had only African American diversity, I believe Romney had a few Asian staffers and Richardson had quite a few Hispanics, but the Republicans had no diversity at all. That may have changed over time but this is a snapshot that permits comparison. I’m not insisting on PC-type quotas, but I do believe this reflects the importance a candidate places on both representing different communities and receiving input from a variety of viewpoints. Obama doesn’t walk the walk with respect to diversity.

  • the reason you do not see drumbeat on mccain and clintons supported is they are known quantities to the american media/public.

    Everyone know John McCain, he does not have a racist bone in his body. Everyone knows Clinton gets money from less desirable people.

    Nobody knows Obama… is he muslim? is he a black panther in sheep’s clothing? how involved was he with tony resko? why did he vote present over 100 time in the illnois legislature? is his judgement really that much better than the other candidates? Obviously, he give great speeches and inspires alot of people, but so did Hilter, Pol Pot, and Stalin.

  • Everyone know John McCain, he does not have a racist bone in his body.

    Really?

    The issue hit the front pages last week after McCain was asked by the Mercury News about his use of the slur in October. McCain’s response aboard his campaign bus, “The Straight Talk Express,” was blunt.

    “I’ll call, right now, my interrogator that tortured me and my friends a `gook,’ OK, and you can quote me,” McCain said last week. Adding that all his fellow prisoners of war used the same term, McCain said his tormentors “were cruel, mean, vicious, sometimes sadistic people. And `gook’ is the kindest description I can give them, the most printable.”

    Then, after taking a two-minute phone call, McCain returned to the subject unprompted: “I hated the gooks,” he said. “And I will hate them for as long as I live.”

    http://www.asianam.org/mccain.htm

  • I believe Romney had a few Asian staffers and Richardson had quite a few Hispanics, but the Republicans had no diversity at all. -Mary

    Speaks for itself.

    Everyone know John McCain, he does not have a racist bone in his body. -mike

    You’re damned right. Just ask the “gooks.”

    “I hated the gooks,” he said. “And I will hate them for as long as I live.”

  • who cares about the effect on race obama’s speech might have, look at the effect it had on the stock market!

    (i know it’s a specious statement, but i figure i’d try out what the neocons do all the time)

  • NOT A PRETTY PICTURE: Even with America’$ star making machinery behind him (and after staying up late into the night?) Obama could not bring himself to truely denounce Rev. Wright because he employees the same textbook style charmless, anti-heroic grievences & guilt-trips. If the Senator had simply explained that over the last quarter-century Reaganomics has unfairly advantaged capital over labor. And trash talk notwithstanding, as president he intends to work with Congress to reverse those policies; That would have been brilliant.

    Beating McCain looked like a slam dunk, so HRC’s thrown under the bus. But that’s a high-risk move. And now we see how Obama reacts under pressure.

  • doubtful — When Obama suggests that by attacking the common foe, which is big business and bad government, everyone’s problems can be solved and there would be no need to be at each other’s throats, he is being as unrealistic about individual situations as he is about his own. Obama can only win by defeating Clinton — that is obvious to all. No magic is going to create more jobs at the top of the government. In communities where jobs are scarce, whoever is hired takes a job from the person who is not hired. People who receive preferences take jobs from those who get no such preferences. On the personal level, it is ALWAYS about individual jobs in specific situations and not the big national economic picture Obama wants to address. Pretending that he will solve Joe Blow’s employment problem by throwing Bush out of office is just plain untrue and the guy on the street knows it. But I’m sure it sounds just great to the rest of you.

    What Obama didn’t deal with is the reality that plenty of people think African Americans have had enough time to catch up for lingering effects of slavery and that the time for preferences is over, especially when African Americans as a subculture (if not the black middle class) seem to be denigrating the value of education, hard work, non-athletic skills training and similar routes to advancement. The complexities of race in our society include a great deal more than Obama was willing to talk about in his superficial and patronizing speech about black anger and white resentments. Those who hold the types of resentments Obama referred to do not do so for the oversimplified reasons attributed to them, but for real and substantial reasons arising from issues that few in the African American community are willing to discuss with whites. This speech was no different, so it does not deserve praise because it didn’t have the stomach to be honest about race relations.

  • i stand corrected…

    ““I hated the gooks,” he said. “And I will hate them for as long as I live.””

    you should have continued the quote…

    “Those words caused pain in a community where many support McCain for his understanding of Vietnam and his work helping Vietnamese families immigrate to the United States. He also helped President Clinton win congressional support for normalizing relations with Vietnam.”

    so it sound like mccain got over his hatred of all Vietnamese people, yet many blacks still blames whites for slavery, i doubt there is a white person alive today who owned slaves

    If only they could have the same forgiveness and nobility as John Mccain.

  • @Mary:

    You bring up the same point that I bring up regarding EOE. If he finds what he needs within two races, does he have to take away from someone already on his staff to find someone else? Does he have to hire based on race? America needs to come to the point where people are judged based on the content of their character, rather than the color of their skin. Recognize the quote? Because little has changed since then. HRC most likely hired specifically to create this diversity that you praise. And I call that disingenuous at best. If the people that you interview for the job are all of non PC colors and no one else qualified steps up for the job, then hire those qualified- don’t turn them down just because you need to make yourself appear to be non-racist and diversified. Because if you go out of your way to hire people of other races guess what? You’re just as racist as if you went out of your way to hire people of only your race.

    It’s not that hard people. Recruit the best for your company and what you need. Period. A friend’s company had all Caucasian employees and basically had to hire the first non-Caucasian person that applied because they needed to meet EOE standards, no matter if they were qualified for the job or not. That just goes against the all men are created equal credo that this country is supposed to be about now, if not founded upon.

  • I think they are still bitter about not getting their 40 acres and a mule. How’s that?

    Bill-o

    You might want to hear the speech before you embarrass yourself further. If you had you would know that Senator Obama did, in effect, say that there are blacks that are bitter about not getting their 40 acres and a mule. He also said that there are whites like yourself that are bitter because they think blacks have been favored over themselves. His speech was written for people like you. Pay attention.

  • A writer on Slate makes the interesting case that one group Obama may have hurt himself with today is one that is already among his weak spots: older Americans.

    I’d like to think the reason I didn’t take it this way is that I am still too young 🙂

    This could, given their propensity to vote, be a bit of a problem in November.

  • Roger troll wrote:

    Senator Obamas usual first response is a charming ambiguous answer. We do not like the fact that we have to count on the media to ask the same set of question 2 or 3 times before we get a answer that is straight forward and not a charming ambiguous response.

    “We” really like the fact that this troll writes in the third person. Because “we” makes it seem like “we’ve” been pondering these issues with deep group seriousness. Of course “we’ve” never seen any other politician or president dance around the perimeter of a question have we? Nor have we ever seen a candidate sit down and talk about a troublesome issue with newspaper men for 90 minutes. Have we? No-sir-we!

    Roger troll again:

    The ending was incredible selfish and horrible. For him to have the gall to basically say Vote for me or you will be choosing to go down the wrong path was a total self pandering statement.

    “We’ve” forgotten that this was a campaign speech. But then “we” have been known to forget certain things when it is regards to Senator Obama. And also “we’ve” been known to hear certain things that “we” think were particularly horrible and selfish when those things weren’t really there. (Note: We are not being selfish or horrible in turn when we do this!)

    Roger the dodger troll once more:

    The matter was already laid to rest for me a week ago. NOBAMA!

    Don’t you mean we? But on the other hand: Glad to see you guys were open minded enough to wait until last week to form an opinion. That was very big of you. Enjoy your stay at Little Green Footballs. Bye bye.

    Barrel. Trolls. Shoot.

  • My! My! My! I have not heard such earnest well meaning, polite racist talk for over 30 years! Now all the closet racists are coming out of their closets! But they are certainly nice people, of course! You can tell this is so by the way they phrase their fears and hate in such a genteel manner.
    DC

  • Greg, with all due respect (which ain’t much), take a fuckin’ powder.

    Barak’s speech was noble. There is no other word for it. He stands head and shoulders above Hillary and McCain. To echo others, instead of spinning and evading, he took the issue seriously, and expanded it into an area of concern for all America. He didn’t just address the hate speech of the drooling knuckle draggers in the hate radio crowd – Ingraham, Gallagher, Hannity, Limbaugh, et al – he spoke directly to the issue which was bound to come up in this campaign, just because he is black. He did it masterfully, and proved to me that he can rise above the hate rhetoric promulgated by the Repugs.

  • Mary,

    …by attacking the common foe, which is big business and bad government, everyone’s problems can be solved and there would be no need to be at each other’s throats…

    Are you seriously arguing that corporate regulation through better governing can’t help improve economic situations, and by proxy socio-economic tension which lead to crime and hate, accross the board? I think Hillary, who shares some of Obama’s positions on this issue, would disagree. I think you’re being contrary for the sake of being contrary; you really have no point.

    You clearly have no understanding of corporate deregulation, job creation, or economics.

    What Obama didn’t deal with is the reality that plenty of people think African Americans have had enough time to catch up for lingering effects of slavery and that the time for preferences is over… -Mary

    Ah, your true colors shining through. You’re tired of all of those minorities getting all the good jobs, like President, just because of their skin color, when they are clearly not qualified. Haha, lol.

    His success will come at the expense of hers, and he is the less qualified candidate. -Mary

    Very subtle. Should have seen it before with all your talk about him being less qualified in spite of the mountain of evidence that says otherwise.

    I heard you are teacher? I weep for our children if that is so.

  • Exactly my point. Anyone who does not support Obama must be a troll and a racist. Way to win hearts and minds DC.

    wraith808 — The way people create a workforce or a staff or a faculty that has a variety of viewpoints is to deliberately and consciously hired otherwise qualified people who come from a variety of backgrounds and experiences. You make diversity part of the job qualification instead of an accident of the selection process. This is what India has done, with its caste system and multiplicity of peoples. Otherwise people tend to hire other people who most closely resemble themselves because that is who they feel most comfortable working with. It may make people feel better to work with more congenial coworkers, but it weakens the organization to do that, especially if you serve a diverse clientele. Large, well-run companies have discovered this independent of AA laws. When ALL forms of diversity are valued and get a shot at the jobs, there is less animosity than when one or another form is privileged at the expense of remaining groups. You cannot avoid identity in a multicultural environment. The problem is that people like Wright and the Republicans are still fighting against multiculturalism. Obama has said and done nothing in favor of multiculturalism, in my opinion. He favors improving conditions for African Americans, but somehow doing that without making any whites nervous. He doesn’t understand that such a position is not the way to be fair. That’s part of the reason why Hispanics don’t vote for him.

    Someone is not automatically a racist because they talk about racial matters, no matter how gentilely.

  • Mary (#22),

    Once again you talk about Clinton’s supposed experience edge over Obama, but I just don’t see it. Sure, she has been alive more years and for that simple reason has been involved in politics (in some form or fashion) longer than Obama. But if you look at total years in ELECTED office, Obama has more, not less experience.

    Further, you seem to have completely missed the point of the story of the woman who came to work for his campaign. The point was that the old man came because of HER. She clearly demonstrated a sincerity that trancended race. Obama was pointing out a specific healing moment to illustrate the kind of energy he is trying to bring to the campaign. The point is that he is trying to create a sense of coming together–not some blind, let’s all sing kumbaya and pretend we are the same kind of thing–but a eyes wide open, yes we have problems, but we have more in common that we do differences, so let’s move forward kind of vibe.

    And isn’t it a bit presumptuous of you to assume that many of us have not read the people you mention?

  • Yeah, it’s hidden away under a deceptive heading for “African Americans” under the “People” menu.
    Oh, I missed the “vote for me because I am black” page. That page says nothing about what Obama will do for the black community, unless you count his variation of “I feel your pain”.

    The other Clinton Cultists have been complaining that Obama had a section for blacks but not whites. You all need to get your pathetic talking points in order so you don’t contradict each other.
    I am disappointed that Hillary doesn’t have a separate “Civil Rights” section under issues. It is lumped under “Strengthening Our Democracy”. But that’s me. Clinton’s detailed page on civil rights appears comparable to Obama’s, with the exception that Obama’s talks about drug sentencing.

  • That page says nothing about what Obama will do for the black community… -Dennis_D

    Perhaps it’s because he lumps the ‘black community’ in with the rest of American and hopes to make it better for all, not just for some.

    I just don’t see the necessity in having a page that most people would label as pandering, especially since it probably wouldn’t have any different information on it.

    Honestly, what specifically are you looking for?

  • Someone is not automatically a racist because they talk about racial matters, no matter how gentilely.

    Gentiley? Isn’t that when a non-Jew addresses anti-Semitism?

    I’ve changed my mind about you, Mary. I really hope you carry out your repeated threats to leave the party if Obama is nominated. Your masterful combination of absolute ignorance and unbelievable arrogance is something that would be better suited to the Republicans.

    In fact, if I were a Clinton backer, I’d have the strong suspicion that you were a Limbaugh plant sent here to make all her supporters look like deranged idiots.

  • I wish just once an Obama supporter would be honest and answer a very serious question for the general election.

    Who do you really think white men age 45 and up are going to vote for in November?

    Before answering remember I think Kerry only carried about 43% in 2004.

  • Mary had a little scam:
    Obama has said and done nothing in favor of multiculturalism, in my opinion.

    Thanks for putting the part about “asssholes” in at the end. After all, anybody who would accuse Obama or Hillary or Edwards of being anything but multicultural is on a fishing trip for wild geese shit for her garden.

    And it was a fradulent as could be:

    Anyone who does not support Obama must be a troll and a racist.

    Yes. He is the nominee. And anybody who pumps out garbage day after day about our candidate seeking only to tear him from limb to limb is clearly on the side of Russ and Cheney. You only post here to tear him down. You can about no other issues. Little Green Footballs would love to have your talent.

  • A hypocrite is a hypocrite is a hypocrite. Obama has shown time after time after time thAT cloak suits him well.

  • Overall, it was a good speech. I was somewhat disappointed that he excused angry acting out in the way he did. I was also hoping he would explain how his former pastor thought Bill Clinton screwed over black people.

  • 51. Comeback Bill said:I wish just once an Obama supporter would be honest and answer a very serious question for the general election.
    Who do you really think white men age 45 and up are going to vote for in November?

    Who cares? Isn’t 220 years of catering exclusively to the whims of white men age 45 and up enough? Look at the mess that has gotten us in the last few decades. Time to build a new coalition.

  • Who do you really think white men age 45 and up are going to vote for in November?
    Before answering remember I think Kerry only carried about 43% in 2004.

    Its the economy, stupid. And the war. The Dem nominee will exceed Kerry’s total and will sit in the White House starting in late January 2009.

  • The bit of Obama’s speech that I would like to see retooled a little and engraved somewhere was “The fact is that the comments that have been made and the issues that have surfaced over the last few weeks reflect the complexities of race in this country that we’ve never really worked through — a part of our union that we have not yet made perfect. And if we walk away now, if we simply retreat into our respective corners, we will never be able to come together and solve challenges like health care or education or the need to find good jobs for every American.”

    Mary complained that, “What Obama didn’t deal with is the reality that plenty of people think African Americans have had enough time to catch up for lingering effects of slavery and that the time for preferences is over”

    Skipping over the problem that 150 years after slavery and 50 years after veritable apartheid are clearly is not enough time to make everything peachy-keen, Mary apparently glossed over the following,
    “In fact, a similar anger exists within segments of the white community. Most working- and middle-class white Americans don’t feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race. Their experience is the immigrant experience — as far as they’re concerned, no one handed them anything. They built it from scratch. They’ve worked hard all their lives, many times only to see their jobs shipped overseas or their pensions dumped after a lifetime of labor. They are anxious about their futures, and they feel their dreams slipping away. And in an era of stagnant wages and global competition, opportunity comes to be seen as a zero sum game, in which your dreams come at my expense. So when they are told to bus their children to a school across town; when they hear an African-American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed; when they’re told that their fears about crime in urban neighborhoods are somehow prejudiced, resentment builds over time.

    Like the anger within the black community, these resentments aren’t always expressed in polite company. But they have helped shape the political landscape for at least a generation. Anger over welfare and affirmative action helped forge the Reagan Coalition. Politicians routinely exploited fears of crime for their own electoral ends. Talk show hosts and conservative commentators built entire careers unmasking bogus claims of racism while dismissing legitimate discussions of racial injustice and inequality as mere political correctness or reverse racism.

    Just as black anger often proved counterproductive, so have these white resentments distracted attention from the real culprits of the middle class squeeze — a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices and short-term greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favor the few over the many. And yet, to wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist, without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns — this too widens the racial divide and blocks the path to understanding.

    This is where we are right now. It’s a racial stalemate we’ve been stuck in for years. Contrary to the claims of some of my critics, black and white, I have never been so naïve as to believe that we can get beyond our racial divisions in a single election cycle, or with a single candidacy — particularly a candidacy as imperfect as my own.

    But I have asserted a firm conviction — a conviction rooted in my faith in God and my faith in the American people — that, working together, we can move beyond some of our old racial wounds, and that in fact we have no choice if we are to continue on the path of a more perfect union. ”

    And she also must have missed the other little bit:
    “your dreams do not have to come at the expense of my dreams; … investing in the health, welfare and education of black and brown and white children will ultimately help all of America prosper.”

  • Yes. He is the nominee. – Dances with trolls #52

    NO HE IS NOT, and if he does become the nominee, McCain will certainly win. He cannot distance himself from Rev. Wright enough, but he didn’t even try, instead we got a lame explanation of why this hatred exists, effectively playing the guilt care on top of the race card by putting the blame on slavery and white on black racism from generations past.

    Thanks for fucking everything up Obama, we would have been better off had you never launched your campaign knowing full well admittetdly that these tapes were out there and they would come back to haunt you.

    Frankly, he asked us to trust him based on who he portrays himself to be (because there’s not much else somebody with little experience could do), and now we are getting a much clearer picture of WHO HE IS, and it is the portrait of an UNELECTABLE FOOL who is SABOTAGING OUR PARTY FOR HIS OWN GAIN.

    This is not going away!

  • Mary, Greg, Comeback Bill: The next time you feel compelled to comment, don’t post it here. Read it into a tape recorder (being sure to shout where you would use all caps). Record three or four of the rants you wanted to post here, then go into the bathroom, look in the mirror and play back your own words. Listen to yourselves.

  • Who do you really think white men age 45 and up are going to vote for in November? Swannie, Part deux.

    I’m white, 52 years of age—and I’m voting for Obama. My dad’s white, 75 years old, a hardcore Republican—and he’s voting for Obama. So is my 82-year-old white GOP uncle, five over-sixty white guys on the same block as where I live (four Dems and an Indy), and an 82-year-old white great-grandfather who lives three blocks from my house, who says, “November can’t get here fast enough.” He was a a life-long Libertarian who went “Green” when it first started up.

    So blow it out your rat-faced buhookie, troll-child. Clinton just got her a$$ waxed with that speech. She can’t agree with it without looking like she’s caving to Obama—and she can’t go negative on it without shredding what integrity she’s got left (which isn’t much, given that the “hillary-bloggers” have become a virtual albatross around her neck).

  • Uh greg,
    John McCain was bombing dikes and civilian targets in North Vietnam when he was shot down. These are considered war crimes under international law. Thus McCain is a war criminal. If we were not the biggest thugs on the block, our invasion of Iraq, also considered a criminal act of war by international law should have resulted in our leaders being tried in the Hague. What we have done and what Hitler did are similar: an unprovoked invasion of a sovereign country. But of course in your eyes and many others Obamas friendship with Wright is much worse than McCain being a war criminal.
    By the way using capital letters to make your point is like yelling at us. I guess you think we don’t understand you unless you yell, right? Actually we really do understand you and your type all too well!
    DC

  • It’s obvious to everybody.

    HUSSEIN Obama is a Muslim.

    Barack = Muslim name

    HUSSEIN = Muslim name

    Obama = Muslim name

    Obama shouldn’t be a bigot; he should tell America he’s an Islamist.

  • Obama’s race should not matter if he is what he said he is. It is a very good speech, like always, given by Obama this morning; but is this good speaker a good candidate for the presidency of United States? I used to be a big Obama fan; however, the more I learned about him the more I feel what he said is different than what he did. Few questions hits me right after his speech – “What exactly is the “CHANGE” he has been talking about through out his presidential campaign?”, “Is he creating more racial tension when he makes the equivalent of disowning Mr. Wright with disowning the black community?”,

    If like what Obama said that his white mother and white grandparents have sacrificed tremendously to bring him up to who he is today, then look around him now, the wife of his choice, the pastor he cannot disown, and the preaching he has chosen to associate himself with for the past 20 years all shows no matter how much love or effort his white half of background given him, it’s obviously Obama favors his black half of background much more. Nevertheless, he has been playing both sides of his background so well that he’s able to get what he wanted so far.

    Now, thanks to Mr. Wright, I got a chance to look at Obama beyond his well-written books and nicely delivered speeches and look closely not only at his words but also at his actions. Honestly, I’m more confused now than before his “big speech” – “Who is this Obama person? Is Obama a good politician, a hierocrat, or a con artist?”

  • Mdark:

    Post Script: One last thought. Anyone who still believes Obama is a Muslim, after all of this, probably needs some kind of medication.

    Seriously. Seek professional help.

  • I should seek help, but HUSSEIN Obama embraces a bigot like Wright. HUSSEIN Obama should seek help. He shoudl suspend his campaign and should be forced to attend tolerance courses

  • it’s obviously Obama favors his black half of background much more.

    That’s a statement as poorly thought out as it is poorly written.

    You fault him for having a black wife? Was he supposed to search the globe for someone who matched his racial background perfectly? “Wanted: Mixed-race woman born of a white Kansas mother and a black Kenyan father. No smokers.” She’s an African American. The odds are pretty good there’s some “white” DNA in her ancestry somewhere back along the way.

    And if he hates his white background so much, why is his campaign manager, his campaign strategist and his campaign spokesman all white? Is that some kind of reverse affirmative action he’s practicing? Or maybe it’s a shrewd black strategy to hide his scary black motives of black world domination?

    Can we get some better trolls in here, please?

  • Why was Obama the first candidate to ask for Imus to resign, but then he doesn’t cut his ties to the bigot Wright? First NAFTA, Iraq and now Wright, Obama is nothing more than a hypcrite.

  • Wow. Looks like Obama’s speech really brought out the idiots, the trolls and the racists.

    November’s going to hurt like hell for you all.

    P.S. Hey Mark? Hussein! BOO!

  • Mdark: See the postscript to Benen’s post: “Anyone who still believes Obama is a Muslim, after all of this, probably needs some kind of medication.”

    VJoy: Most of your deep “questions” about Obama have already been answered if you were truly listening. But you give yourself away with this:

    … no matter how much love or effort his white half of background given him, it’s obviously Obama favors his black half of background much more.

    To the white world, Obama is and always has been black. Throughout his life, society saw him and treated him as black and continue to do so today. Now you would condemn the man for assuming the identity that society thrust upon him at most every turn.

    Sorry, I ain’t buying it.

  • What a disgusting speech. He slammed his grandmother for “racism,” but he excused Wright’s bigotry and embraced it. Obama gave tens of thousands to Wright to help him with his hate speech. I’m sorry I ever supported Obama and I want my money back. Obama is a disgrace.

  • Wow, a lot of previously unseen posters all coming here at once, all spouting a similar anti-Obama line. What are the odds of that?

    Last time that happened, it was proven to be one troll making multiple posts. If it’s the same idiot doing it again, maybe Steve can block the IP address for good.

  • What a laugh. If a white candidate was connected to a white church that professed anti-black rhetoric, he or she would never be nominated.

    However, Obama gets a pass. Ferraro was right. Obama is nothing more than a bigot and he should step down.

  • Don’t waste your time with the Marys, Gregs and the Mdarks of the world. As TR keeps reminding us, fuck em. Mary hates all men no matter the color. Greg is a thumb-sucking twit who’s getting paid per post, and Mdark’s mommy made him go to Sunday School while she pleasured men in his bed. The rest are clones.

  • Well said, VJoy/Mark/David/Karen/Derrick!

    For your next personality, you should try an Irish name in honor of St. Patrick’s Day.

  • Don’t waste your time with the Marys, Gregs and the Mdarks of the world. As TR keeps reminding us, fuck em.

    I guess I should take my own advice, eh?

    Alright, don’t feed the trolls. Even when it’s really just one.

  • I think the odds are good many more people will want their vote (and money) back, Obama refuses to distance himself from racists, and actually sounds like he hates his white grandmother deep down, maybe he just hates his white half altogether.

    If you want the truth, you have to stop getting all of your news from Obama friendly sites and shows like Keith Olberman, who should probably be on Comedy Central instead of MSNBC, and start taking a closer look at what the moderate and conservatives are saying.

    This debacle will be Obama’s undoing..

  • Late today I was feeling very uplifted by this speech and even a little hopeful that this country could do the right thing and make this brilliant man president. As I was leaving work my boss was watching Obama on TV. I said What an inspiration he is. And she, who in the past would have agreed with me, said, I don’t know, this Wright thing could be his downfall. Why doesn’t he leave that church? I said, my rabbi says lots of crazy stuff but I don’t always agree with him. My boss said, You’re not running for president. Could a lot of people really think like my boss? Is this Wright issue really such a big deal? I’ve been depressed all night.

  • If you want the truth, you have to stop getting all of your news from . . . shows like Keith Olberman, who should probably be on Comedy Central instead of MSNBC, and start taking a closer look at what the moderate and conservatives are saying.

    And who are you supporting again Greg and why should we care?

    I am a long, long time Clinton supporter, and I still support her today. But anyone who is remotely progressive would support Olberman as one of the few truth-tellers out there and he would be the best show on either MSNBC or Comedy Central – and most other channels as well. This should not be about some pro-Clinton or anti-Obama purity test.

    But the real giveaway that makes me wonder what your real purpose is would be your last line. No offense, but after seeing how badly conservatives have screwed everything up, I could not possibly care less what they are saying.

  • CBS has a new poll out that 30% of people think less of Obama now. Todays speech changed nothing.

  • guess I should take my own advice, eh?

    It’s all good my friend. I fall prey to the temptation everyday here. Stupidity and meanness surely needs to be knocked down wherever it rears its ugly pathetic little head. However I suspect their only reason for being here is to keep us off message.

    Get ready though. It’s still just March!

    Wasn’t his speech beautiful?

  • Todays speech changed nothing

    And you could conclude that how, exactly, since the polling was completed yesterday – pre-speech?

    As for the 30%, the overwhelming majority are Republicans who weren’t likely to vote for him in November anyway.

    Tell me again what is noteworthy about your poll?

  • CBS has a new poll out that 30% of people think less of Obama now. Todays speech changed nothing.

    Comeback, you might try reading the full post:

    “This poll was conducted among a random sample of 844 adults nationwide, including 749 registered voters, interviewed by telephone March 15 – 17, 2008. Interviewing for the questions on Wright and Obama was conducted March 16-17, 2008 among a sample of 355 registered voters.”

    The speech was today, March 18. CBS polled people on March 16-17. I know this is complicated for you to understand, but that means they polled people before Obama gave the speech today. So claiming this poll reflects anything about the reaction to the speech reveals a woeful ignorance.

    In any case, I’m actually surprised the number is that low. This was a poll of all registered voters, Republicans and Democrats alike. The GOP vote alone wouldn’t have much nice to say about Obama’s candidacy no matter what.

  • APOLOGY: I just had a chance to hear Obama’s speech on C-Span (rather than in sound bites on the news). His point of view was more nuanced and comprehensive than I first thought. It was presidential enough for me.

  • sometimes it rains
    turn on windshield wiper
    trolls get swept away
    obama wins
    everyone happy

  • Hey Bill,

    That poll you got there was taken before Obama made his speech. So yeah, probably the most shocking part was that 2% of people though better of Obama without hearing his full reaction to the controversy.

    Also: “Independent voters – a group Obama has successfully courted in many primaries and would try to draw in the general election – still view him favorably, about the same as last month. Unfavorable views have risen among Republicans.”

    You realize that you’re using a poll that was taken before the speech to prove your point about the speech, right? Just wanted to make sure we’re clear, here…

  • I was very impressed with the speech. Very impressed. Obama has shown himself to be a man of intelligence, depth and compassion; and unlike GWB, Obama does nuance. 30% think less of Obama now? What a disappointment.

    Thank you, N.Wells, for reproducing the part of the speech that shows Obama recognizes the pain of a lot of whites.

    I’m a practicing Christian who has had a wide variety of pastors during my churchgoing life. The church I belong to now is politically mixed; no pastor is going to speak for every one of us on political or even theological issues.

    And has anyone noticed that finally a Democratic candidate with a very good shot at the nomination is finally talking about corporate power?

    As I said, I was very impressed. But I can say with almost complete certainty that the Republican noise machine will cherry-pick the speech and present in the worst possible light those snippets that lend themselves to spinning in the most damning way. And that will be the story that the MSM will report.

  • Thank you, NB. I wish I could have read your comment before I posted mine; but your heads-up appeared while I was composing my comment.

    I hope lots of people who heard the speech think better of Obama now. I was supporting him already, but now I’m even happier to be for him.

  • You know, blogingRfun, if you’re going to be reasonable and thoughtful, the internet might not be for you.

    Seriously, nice to see someone reconsider a hasty first impression.

  • Greg,

    I gather that you live in Florida (though i’m not entirely sure that what you’ve written in the past is to be believed). Do yourself a favor, man, get out of the basement for a few hours. Take a walk, soak up some sun, listen to the birds…get some perspective. And i’m a little worried about the Radon factor; you do have a detector down there, don’t you?

    You’ve got the right to support whoever you choose. You also have the right to argue on their behalf and state their case. But you’ve gone way, way, way off the deep end. You should probably write some code so that we can actually see the throbbing blood vessels in your forehead.

    Oh, and watch out for gators…

  • The best comment I’ve seen online is that this was Obama’s Checkers speech.

    Except instead of a cute dog he won’t give up it’s an angry black preacher.

    I can see the GOP ads already. I hope we all survive President McCain.

  • It was a powerful and moving speech. Unfortunately, it will be parsed, spun, and dissected to garner preconceived notions. We’ve already seen that here.

    I’m beginning to wonder if some of our friends here at TCBR are the kind of progressive/liberal/Democrats who don’t really want to win…the type who don’t really want to shift the lean of America.

    Some people…and this would include a tendency of Rev Wright that Obama pointed out…are more comfortable in their victimhood. Is their a “battered wife” wing of the Democratic Party that says they want out of their losing ways, but just keeps taking the mean drunk back again?

  • BLAME SHIFTING: MSNBC announced that the speech would begin at 10:15 am EDT. So I set my DVR for ‘record’ at that time…But the speech did not get started until ~45 minutes later, so I missed seeing it until later on C-SPAN.

  • 78. Greg said: Obama refuses to distance himself from racists

    Every sane newspaper story says otherwise. Your definition of “distance himself” seems to find anything short of shooting Rev. Wright in the head while you watch to be insufficient, which is why you come across as such a crazy person. Give it a rest, you’re not changing any minds with your mindless ranting. At least Hillary’s insane advisers have enough sense to stay away from this story. You should take their lesson to heart, it is one of the rare moments in the campaign where Penn and Ickes have shown any class at all.

  • 100 posts!!!

    It is amazing to me how very volatile the issue of race is in the blogosphere. The Wright controversy and the greater issue of race relations in America seem to be striking a nerve. A nerve that, in many people, reminds us of how far we’ve come and how far we’ve yet to go. And a nerve that, in the minds of potted-meat-breathed redneck trolls makes them fire up their anti-welfare rhetoric. The abuses of the welfare system cannot possibly approach the levels of abuses of our warfare system, a subject on which they are ironically and hypocritically silent.

    That race is such a volatile issue, especially in the hands of such troglodytes, is reason enough for Obama’s need to discuss it.

  • I’m sure Obama would really like to move on and his fans in the media and blogosphere would like to help him.

    But the chickens have come home to roost.

    It was Obama and his media/blogospere fan club that kept crying wolf by playing the race card and kept holding Hillary responsible for everything anyone in her vicinity said or did.

    Now when the shoe is on the other foot they want to be post-racial.

  • The best comment I’ve seen online is that this was Obama’s Checkers speech.
    Except instead of a cute dog he won’t give up it’s an angry black preacher.
    I can see the GOP ads already. I hope we all survive President McCain.

    That’s a poor comparison for several reasons, especially for the fact that the Checkers speech worked for Nixon and you think this won’t.

  • I see myiq2xu is here from Balloon Juice. He’s the ultimate troll, people, so don’t even bother to engage him at all. He makes Greg seem like a rational thinker.

  • The news media has made this contest a race issue, not the candidates
    or the public. I am so sick of their sensationalizing, distorting, preening.
    They have lost all integrity,
    Of course we will find some who will tear his speech apart. I felt the speech
    was one of the greatest I have ever heard. He pointed out things that we
    try to ignore and that is what we REALLY feel about race.
    I have not viewed Barack as a black man, I have viewed him as an
    intelligent, sincere, caring man who will fight for middle class America.
    People, the National Deficit now amounts to $455,000.00 PER HOUSEHOLD!!
    Look what the Bush administration and the Republican party have done
    to us. Economically we are falling apart. Our children, grand children and
    great grandchildren will be paying for their mismanagement for decades.
    We need change, we need Barack.

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