The principles of the Know-Nothing Party make a striking comeback

I’d assumed, if Barack Obama was the Democratic nominee for president, that even unhinged, far-right writers would be cautious about how they’d go about smearing him. Unbridled racism would be considered a political liability, and therefore shunned. Transparent nativism might work for conservatives in certain communities, but might also annoy moderate suburbanites, and would probably be used sparingly.

I didn’t expect Kathleen Parker — a columnist syndicated by the Washington Post Writers Group — to start drawing a line of patriotism based on “blood equity” and “bloodlines.”

As Glenn reminds us, the Financial Times had a dispatch from West Virginia last week, which noted the ignorant, painful bigotry that drove at least some of the anti-Obama vote in the Mountain State. The piece concluded with a quote from West Virginian Josh Fry, who said he was “more comfortable” with John McCain than Obama because, as Fry put it, “I want someone who is a full-blooded American as president.”

Most reasonable people probably rolled their eyes at such nonsense. Parker, however, devoted her column this week to defending the notion of judging Americans based on whether they meet the “full-blooded” standard or not.

Full-bloodedness is an old coin that’s gaining currency in the new American realm. Meaning: Politics may no longer be so much about race and gender as about heritage, core values, and made-in-America. Just as we once and still have a cultural divide in this country, we now have a patriot divide.

Who “gets” America? And who doesn’t?

The answer has nothing to do with a flag lapel pin, which Obama donned for a campaign swing through West Virginia, or even military service, though that helps. It’s also not about flagpoles in front yards or magnetic ribbons stuck on tailgates.

It’s about blood equity, heritage and commitment to hard-won American values. And roots.

Some run deeper than others and therein lies the truth of Fry’s political sense. In a country that is rapidly changing demographically — and where new neighbors may have arrived last year, not last century — there is a very real sense that once-upon-a-time America is getting lost in the dash to diversity.

We love to boast that we are a nation of immigrants. But there’s a different sense of America among those who trace their bloodlines back through generations of sacrifice.

Glenn called this one of “the most repellent columns one will ever read.” I’m hard pressed to disagree.

What’s striking is that Parker seems to think she’s stumbled onto something new, as if ugly nativism is somehow a modern creation. What she may not realize is that similar columns, using nearly identical language, have been published in this country for generations.

Most sensible Americans look back at the bigotry of the mid-19th century and wince, thankful that our culture and society has progressed beyond nativism. And some Americans look back and think, “You know, maybe they had a point about the Irish, the Italians, the Germans….”

For that matter, it’s odd that Parker seems to believe that Obama does not yet meet the standard for “blood equity.” His “bloodlines,” for some reason, are not yet traced “back through generations of sacrifice.”

How’s that exactly? Barack Obama’s grandfather fought in Patton’s Army. Barack Obama is a distant cousin of Dick Cheney, for crying out loud. Obama’s “roots” are deemed inadequate?

For that matter, even if Obama were a first-generation American, who the hell cares? America isn’t a country club or fraternity reserved for the white, wealthy elite. Obama’s story is a uniquely American story. The notion that we must judge citizens based on a right-wing notion of “heritage” — more generations = more American — is an idea that offends everything our country stands for.

Parker concludes:

[What] so-called “ordinary Americans” … know is that their forefathers fought and died for an America that has worked pretty well for more than 200 years. What they sense is that their heritage is being swept under the carpet while multiculturalism becomes the new national narrative. And they fear what else might get lost in the remodeling of America.

Republicans more than Democrats seem to get this, though Hillary Clinton has figured it out. […]

Some Americans do feel antipathy toward “people who aren’t like them,” but that antipathy isn’t about racial or ethnic differences. It is not necessary to repair antipathy appropriately directed toward people who disregard the laws of the land and who dismiss the struggles that resulted in their creation.

Full-blooded Americans get this. Those who hope to lead the nation better get it soon.

Maybe we can chip and buy Parker a book about the Know-Nothing Party. She probably doesn’t realize it, but her column, if it were slightly better written, could have been pulled from party’s platform, nearly 160 years later.

The folks at Sadly, No! have been ripping Parker a new one all day.

  • Other reasons this would be funny if it weren’t so sadly xenophobic/racist/bigoted:
    Obama’s birthplace: Honolulu, Hawaii
    McCain’s birthplace: Panama

    So who has the American “roots”?

  • See, when I realized you were writing an article taking on a tasteless, talentless, offensive and petty Kathleen Parker article, I figured you were talking about this one from Today’s WaPo. Hard to believe that today’s piece wasn’t ever her most offensive tripe this week.

    That said, offensive it is. The spoken premise is that Edwards and Obama are effete peas in a pod; it is generally a massive hit job on Edwards. Arguably the snickering unspoken theme is that the two of them just might be gay. A sample, because I have some mercy on my fellow readers:

    Obama and Edwards make an attractive picture — Ultra Brite cover boys of youth and glamour united against old men (and women) who worship the status quo. Obama — the man who makes Chris Matthews feel a thrill up his leg — wants to “do the Lord’s work,” lately pictured in front of a cross illuminated with vanity lights on a flier aimed at Kentucky voters, while Edwards wants to roll out the catapults and nuke the Coliseum. . . .

    Presumably, Edwards knows how to relate to these folks, given his heritage and his years as a trial lawyer representing the little people against corporate America. Notwithstanding his 28,000-square-foot house and $400 haircuts. And ignoring the fact that one reason health insurance rates are so high — and that so many poor rural folks lack high-quality medical care — is the success Edwards and other trial lawyers have in convincing jurors that doctors owe the world always-perfect results.

    The sheer ways in which the column is petty, foolish, offensive, and just plain wrong are too taxing to count. Ugh.

  • I’d like a link about the ‘Dick Cheney’ thing. How is Obama related to *him*? And where can I send a vase of flowers to indicate my condolences for it?

  • All animals are equal…
    But some animals have better blood than other animals.

  • 2 Votes for Decent Folk!

    Then there was the educated Texan from Texas who looked like someone in Technicolor and felt, patriotically, that people of means — decent folk should be given more votes than drifters, whores, criminals, degenerates, atheists and indecent folk — people without means.
    “You’re right,” Yossarian shouted back. “You’re right, you’re right, you’re right. The hot dog, the Brooklyn Dodgers. Mom’s apple pie. That’s what everyone’s fighting for. But who’s fighting for the decent folk? Who’s fighting for more votes for the decent folk? .-Catch 22

  • It’s interesting that McCain spent the first ten or eleven years of his life traveling around the pacific islands, at the mercy of his father’s military career…I would guess they’d like to particularly point to the time Obama lived out of the country, but McCain often did as well. Yet it seems at least a more reasonable argument (Kerry spent a lot of time in France, didn’t he?) than a word like bloodlines, which seems directly to be saying that having a father who was an african — with oh so many racial overtones — is less worthy. But if we twist this a little, to make sure that it comes across as an elitist thing, then I think Obama wins the round. Reading that McCain’s father and grandfather were 4 star generals — can’t help wondering if McCain just wasn’t up to that job, so his family allowed him to settle for politics, where brains doesn’t matter.

  • Thank G-d for all the younger voters Obama has brought into the field. This generation is so much less prejudiced than the dying one. Why shouldn’t it be their election? They have grown up in the shadow of 9/11.

    It is so amazing that in this day and age such nativism and bigotry still goes on. How many member of our current American population can say they are truly descended from the nation’s forefathers? Most Americans are descended from immigrants who have come in the last 150 years or so.

    What this woman is afraid of is our country being taken over by people who look different than she does. Pretty soon our minority populations will no longer be minorities, and she knows it and is scared. And so are all the people who are terrified of illegal immigration. Obama reminds them not only of their ingrained racism, but of the changing face of America. Whitey is afraid that whitey will no longer run this country.

  • One good thing about an Obama candidacy is that it will strip the carefully erected facade that far-right and conservative crowds have used to hide (not always very well) their inherent racism. It needs to be dragged out into the open and shown for what it is, for it also characterizes a group of people who resort to lies, hatred, cruel authoritarianism, and plutocracy (among other perspectives) in their political philosophy.
    It’s just starting to get bad. A “clever” right-wing DL took an Obama “Yes We Can” poster and added “Kill White Folks” at the bottom. I hope the Obama survives the deranged KKK types that are only now crawling out of their slime balls.

  • The code word “heritage” deserves some comment. It is a big word in the language of the pro-Confederacy groups that like to defend the use of the battleflag from the obvious reality that it is racially offensive by claiming it as a part of their “heritage.” This particular heritage, of course, is one of fighting against America–at the time the word “treason” was used, although people don’t seem to want to talk that way nowadays. However that may be, having spilled the blood of loyal Americans who fought for their country under Lincoln, it seems to me that people with this heritage ought to be more hesitant about basing their claims of patriotism on blood equity. I come from the South myself, and have family that fought in the late unpleasantness. I am grateful that one of America’s core values is precisely *not* to measure people by their “heritage” or by their bloodliines, but to look to who they are now. That core value allows me to be sympathetic toward those of my ancestors who found themselves in a situation that seemed to call for them to fight against America, while at the same time identifying myself as someone who believes that they were substantively wrong in their decision. America allows people to do better than their “heritage,” and to think things out afresh, based on the perspectives of history and experience. To talk about “heritage” as the basis on which people are American or not is to lower ourselves.

  • One of the major reasons I support Obama is the exact opposite of Parker’s column.
    He represents the “new America”, the blending of cultures that the melting pot has brought about.

    I want the world to wake up on November 5th with a picture of Barack Obama on their computers or TV’s or newspapers as the 44th President of the United States and to KNOW that we’re back in business. America is ready to rejoin the world of nations after eight long years in the wilderness.

    Fuck Kathleen Parker.

  • Overt racism isn’t acceptable in public any more, so garbage like this is substituted, full of dog-whistles like “full-blooded American” and “once upon a time America” and “generations of sacrifice.” In other words, if you’re white and you cherish the days when people of color had no rights, you’re a real American, the only kind worthy of power and money in this society. No others need apply. And yes, this moron is writing for an audience terrified of minorities, terrified of losing their undeserved advantages and terrified they can’t compete on a level playing field. Can you say GOP? I thought you could.

  • So the Founding Fathers aren’t Americans because they didn’t have enough “roots” in America. What utter BS!

    Of course we need to point out these people that the Founding Fathers were the radical liberals of their day. And that they have the same viewpoint now as the people that supported King George (then and now).

  • Funny how none of the trolls from the infestation in the threads mentioning NRA do not post anything here. It would be great to feature their “now-nothing” comments in a thread about the “know-nothing” party.

  • American Royalty- I’d like to slap that Parker bitch. I have have relatives who were killed in the Civil War, does that make me a Duke or something?
    The amount of ignorance displayed in her brief article is absolutely astounding. Who gets her dressed in the morning, and who wipes her mouth-breathing drool form the keyboard?

  • Bigotry is alive and well in America. West Virginia can be proud of that claim to fame. A state of immigrant miners who can’t remember their own heritage.

  • Conservatives have a problem. They have to run a racist campaign — they always do — but with Obama, they have to test the boundaries of what is acceptable. Extremists like Coulter are meant to help lay the groundwork for the more subtle dog whistles — or air sirens — they will employ in the general. Parker’s column is about laying the foundations for an argument that is racist in subtext.

    They aren’t saying he’s black. They’re saying he’s “not American”, and if you try to pin them down, McCain will scoff at the race card, while Kevin James goes on Hardball to say, “I don’t know if that’s what he said, but he should.” As Malkin did, using the SBV’s book to ask questions that “ought to be pursued” about Kerry executing an unarmed boy in a loin cloth. It wasn’t in the book. There wasn’t a question raised about it. She’s just “putting it out there”.

    Here, it’s not “race” but the fact that his father is Muslim and a foreigner, at least in public, but the subtext, and Kristof and Broder will be used to write columns aimed at liberals who dare to distort their campaign by suggesting otherwise. What will be said explicitely by talk radio hosts, and what will be said implicitely by accepting the debate on their terms, is Obama is a black man.

    If Parker’s column manages to slip into the mainstream, they’ve shifted the ground and set the stage for their racist campaign. They’ve tested the waters to see where the line is, and push it a little bit. The more we pushback now, the more subtle they’ll have to be in their racism.

    This is where we draw up the boundaries and set the rules about what’s “off-sides”.

  • Being from WV, I’ve been battling some of my fellow citizens who have taken great offense at the coverage of the primary. Jon Stewart seems to have hit a bigger ganglia than anyone else, but that’s just because he’s more accessible.

    These people know full well that there is a higher percentage of out-and-out racists as well as the casual xenophobe, yet they’re so defensive of being lumped in with them that they’re willing to almost cover for them. I try to explain that Mel Gibson’s father didn’t exactly move to Nicholas County, WV for the cole slaw and lack of mosquitoes, but they don’t want to hear it.

    Parker is allowing people to give in to their dark side. She’s not the devil on one’s shoulder, but rather it’s PR guy. She knows that what she’s doing is wrong, but it’s acceptable (in her mind) in order to win elections.

    If we allow the seat of power to be taken out of the McMansions, where would that leave her? Can’t any of you people stop to think about Kathleen Parker’s needs, you selfish bastards!

  • “The more we pushback now, the more subtle they’ll have to be in their racism.”

    Do you think it is desirable for them to be more subtle? Perhaps we should step back and give them plenty of space to put their feet in their filthy mouths.

  • rege: It seems just like yesterday that Republicans were talking about amending the Constitution to allow Arnold to run for President. My how things have changed.

    Brilliant.

    Pricks. Petard. Hoist.

  • “Full-blooded” is used to refer to people who are not of mixed race: a full-blooded Indian has no white blood. The man in West Virginia used the term “full-blooded American” instead of “full blooded white person.” I guess he was a bit ashamed of saying exactly what he meant. It had nothing to do with his father being African and it had everything to do with his father being Black. We must leave these people behind and plow ahead, America. The young people in this country have, as a whole, already done that. We are not going to see a change in Appalacia in the near future, perhaps never. And I say, we don’t need these people to elect a President, not anymore. The Deep South and all states in Appalacia are totally out of step with the rest of America. Leave them for the Republicans to take advantage of for the next century. Maybe then they will wake up and realize they have sold their souls for nothing.

  • At least learn to spell Appalachia when tossing us all away, barbara tate. Thanks.

  • I’d assumed, if Barack Obama was the Democratic nominee for president, that even unhinged, far-right writers would be cautious about how they’d go about smearing him. — CB

    Pray, on what evidence have you made that assumption?

    It’s about blood equity, heritage and commitment to hard-won American values. And roots. — Kathleen Parker.

    Didn’t Medved say something similar in just the past 24-48hrs? It seems to me that this is the beginning of a concerted attack.

    IIRC, Medved’s theory was that the “true” Americans — the brave settlers of the New World — are genetically (there’s that “blood connection” again) predisposed to being more intelligent, creative and enterprising than the “others” — especially those who came here against their will (ie slaves).

    Medved’s screed had me in stitches because, when I told my poor, self-educated, Jewish Mother that I fell in love with a Virginian, her first reaction — having read her Defoe carefully — was: those convicts? Thankfully, it turned out he was a descendant of a voluntary immigrant; the same Mareen Duval that Obama (and, sigh, Cheney) is related to. Not but Mareen had some dubious relatives himself– just Google Claude Duval.

  • “What’s striking is that Parker seems to think she’s stumbled onto something new, as if ugly nativism is somehow a modern creation.” Mr. CB

    Maybe it’s sort of new to those who have taken the white, patriarchal, oligarchic ruling class paradigm for granted and now need a quick bitch slap shout out to the sheep who like being told what to do and their plump shepherds who may be too comfy and oblivious in the pro shop and their tucked away estates to realize that their meal ticket might be in jeopardy.

    America rejoices in it’s self imposed stupidity and barely veneered hatreds. Parker calls out to the dumbasses to rouse from their slumbers, grab their seething anger and begin gathering provisions. The world is about to get a good look at something very ugly and very much present in 21st Century America. And it’s about f’n time.

  • Remove “family values”. Insert “fullblooded Americans”. It’s the same old divisive Republican tactics to drive fear of a black planet into the minds of ignorant racists to get them to once again vote against their own best interests.

  • As despicable as Parker’s vile, unAmerican blather and nincompoopery is about blood lines and roots and Southern patriotism (we’ll just over look that little secession thing), the added gay allegations would be laughable if not so mean spirited and patently false. Ideally, it shouldn’t matter if a candidate is gay. But apparently some people think that’s important. Other attacks have fizzled and failed — that O’s pastor, a former Marine, is not patriotic; that O likes arugula; that an academic who sat on a community board with O did awful things (but was never tried or convicted) when O was eight years old. What’s left for the Rovians? Ah, the old reliable, homophobia. So they try that even though O and E are devoted husbands to attractive first wives whom they clearly love and respect and with whom they have had beautiful children. Also, they’re handsome. (Unlike McCain.) Do Republicans think you’re not “manly” enough if you’ve had only one wife? If you didn’t take a mistress while still living with your first wife? If you don’t cat around? Is unfaithfulness in word and deed so necessary to the conservative movement (which has not of late had leaders that kept their word about preserving and defending the Constitution, for example) that actual, authentic fidelity is a drawback?

  • Maybe Ms. Parker would take up the cause of the Apache and Comanche and Navajo and Hopi and Arapaho and Cheyenne and Mohawk and Lakota peoples if she *really* understands what being a full-blooded American is all about.

    And pigs might fly someday, but I doubt it. 🙁

  • Ultimately, this divisiveness works because of fear and growing economic distress – gas at $4, food prices rising, many losing their homes. Not an excuse, but it is a breeding ground.

    How ironic that the repugs can create the fear economic distress and then use it to gain support – especially among the most uneducated and white Americans.

    The good news is that 2008 represents an historic opportunity to start to break this – the criminal cabal behind dur chimpfurher and their enablers in the MSM and congress have enriched themselves and really screwed the masses.

    Obama can win without their vote, but many of them won’t be able to vote for mclame either – once in office, perhaps he can show them that he is working for them when he works for a more just America.

    Hell, the bar has been set so low by the current gang of crooks, as long as we don’t get mclame, it has to be better, though cleaning up the poo from the chimp is going to be a challenge.

  • It’s just the same old NSDAP Ubermenschen/Untermenschen thing as before, with a new twist. we whipped those Nazi scum more than 60 years ago—and we has to go over there to do it. Now, they’re over here, which should make it all the more easier to whip them a second time.

  • “America isn’t a country club or fraternity reserved for the white, wealthy elite.”

    That’s so pre-911 thinking.

    Hopefully Ms. Parker and her ilk will be surprised in Nov when the very bloodlines I believe she’s talking about – anglo-saxon with Confederate ancestry, such as myself – vote Obama by the droves.

    My seventy year old mom has told me, “McCain is too old and even though he served honorably, he’s not smart enough to be President.”

  • “libra” had this to say:

    Didn’t Medved say something similar in just the past 24-48hrs? It seems to me that this is the beginning of a concerted attack.

    IIRC, Medved’s theory was that the “true” Americans — the brave settlers of the New World — are genetically (there’s that “blood connection” again) predisposed to being more intelligent, creative and enterprising than the “others” — especially those who came here against their will (ie slaves).

    Medved’s screed had me in stitches because, when I told my poor, self-educated, Jewish Mother that I fell in love with a Virginian, her first reaction — having read her Defoe carefully — was: those convicts? Thankfully, it turned out he was a descendant of a voluntary immigrant; the same Mareen Duval that Obama (and, sigh, Cheney) is related to. Not but Mareen had some dubious relatives himself– just Google Claude Duval.

    I believe what he’s referring to is that which is the subject of this exugenesis in Pharyngula @ ScienceBlogs::

    Did someone declare this National Flaming Racist Idiot week, and I just didn’t notice until now? You have got to read Michael Medved’s latest foray into pseudoscience: he has declared American superiority to be genetic, encoded in our good old American DNA. Because our ancestors were immigrants, who were risk-takers, who were selected for their energy and aggressiveness. Oh, except for those who are descended from slaves.

    The idea of a distinctive, unifying, risk-taking American DNA might also help to explain our most persistent and painful racial divide – between the progeny of every immigrant nationality that chose to come here, and the one significant group that exercised no choice in making their journey to the U.S. Nothing in the horrific ordeal of African slaves, seized from their homes against their will, reflected a genetic predisposition to risk-taking, or any sort of self-selection based on personality traits.

    But, he hastens to add, modern African-American genetics have been leavened with the genes of recent, self-selected immigrants from the Caribbean and Africa, so their unfortunate stay-at-home genes have a “less decisive influence”.

    As is usual for Medved, a dullard incapable of any kind of thought beyond the superficial, he doesn’t think his thesis through. Wouldn’t this imply that Moslem immigrants to Europe, with their risk-taking willingness to move to new environments, are their true hope for the future? That the old blue-bloods of this country are less fit than, say, the Nisei? And if the descendants of African slaves are not successful go-getters because their arrival was coerced, what about the immigrants who were fleeing religious persecution, or all the Americans who are descended from indentured servants? Are there no successful entrepreneurs in Europe or Asia or Africa? Should we give extra bonus points to the descendants of nomadic tribes of warriors, like the Germans? It’s a very peculiarly narrow view of a kind of simplistic genetic determinism that ignores the complexities and the varieties of ways people got here to promote a ridiculous premise.

    And it just gets sillier.

    Senators Obama, Clinton and other leaders who seek to enlarge the scope of government face more formidable obstacles than they realize. Their desire to impose a European-style welfare state and a command-and-control economy not only contradicts our proudest political and economic traditions, but the new revelations about American DNA suggest that such ill-starred schemes may go against our very nature.

    Uh, what? Republican policies are now part of our genetic nature, and the Democrats will be defeated by our capitalist genes?

    This is Michael Medved of the Discovery Institute, an organization that has recently been raving about the evils of eugenics and the soulless Darwinian view of nature. Yet here he is, spouting off the kind of smug, invalid, pseudo-biological jingo that belongs in the Gilded Age and would be comfortable in the mouth of a robber baron trying to justify a war in Latin America. It’s nothing but handwaving rationalizations for an intrinsic superiority to our tribe, with a complete absence of evidence.

    Isn’t this, perhaps, redolent of apartheid South Africa?

  • “Maybe we can chip and buy Parker a book about the Know-Nothing Party. She probably doesn’t realize it, but her column, if it were slightly better written, could have been pulled from party’s platform, nearly 160 years later.”

    I disagree. Much more serious . Her column (and no doubt her thought patterns) could have been pulled from the Third Reich. It led to the death of 6 million Jews and 3 million other people that the Nazis considered “sub-human” in concentration camps.

  • I cannot believe all the verbiage that get gets thrown around trying to

    (1). Convince those harmed by the socio-economic policies of republicans to vote for republicans. They are inherently dishonest talking points – they have to be.

    (2). “Debunk” the lies from item #1

    The repugs win this game because there is an unlimited amount of lies they can tell – all will be “catapulted” by the MSM and will frame the entire dialog.

    They succeed in preventing a dialog about the real issues that create the fear and socio-economic stresses that the repug exploit. Because of this, there is no support for meaningful action.

    The rightwing folks dominate the MSM because the advertisers that support it are making enough money to underwrite the entire bamboozle.

    Geeee, wouldn’t really be that had nor require much sacrifice to change that, would it – but many would rather join the distractions.

  • Short version:

    The problem is not what they lying liars say or how often they say it. It’s the underlying socio-economic issues that give rise to the laying liars in the first place.

  • Kathleen Parker and Victor Hanson as editorial commentators? Why don’t newspapaers just stick with known traitors such as Karl Rove and Judith Miller? Newspapers keep wondering why their readership keeps get lower and lower. Could it have anything to do with the right-wing crap that takes up much of the editorial pages of many newspapers? At least with the Internet, you can simply go to some of the more thoughtful and progressive blog sites (thinkprogress, huffington, america.blog and this one, for example) and skip the right-wing drivel, except for a few lurking trolls found hiding under the bridges…

    The original Know-Nothing party was a relatively short-lived group that formed in the the 1840s and 1850s as an anti-immigrant and anti-catholic vehicle. (see wicki and others for details).

  • I had checked her out on Wikipedia before I posted. Since then it has been altered, by someone obviously really pissed off. I obviously don’t blame him/her, but altering the Wiki with an opinion isn’t the way to deal with her crap. Send her an email; her email address is on the bottom of the linked article.

  • james k. sayre – the traditional media does not give a damn if their numbers are falling. They are subidiaries of 5 larger corporations that have assets in many other sectors, including the military-industrial complex (directly or indirectly).

    There media assets are more valuable to them as vehicles to “catapult the propaganda.”

  • When talking about “our heritage”, it’s worth remembering that our nation’s Capitol was built by slaves.

  • impeachcheneythenbush great idea!

    Send her an email! Or better yet, how about one of those long nasty letters that conyers send rove, maier, and the other criminals in the administration.

    Yup, that should do it…

    PROBLEM SOLVED!

  • #46 – little bear – granted it probably will not change that idiot’s ideas – but it’s better then altering Wiki. I guess you had a hand in that, yes?

  • The disconnect from reality here is stunning. Absolutely stunning.

    It’s like the echo-chamber has become the “new” version of what is real.

    And the longer that TCR and other “progressive” blogs fail to recognize the elitism and derision being portrayed in posts/comments like these, the angrier you make blue-collar working class voters.

    The attitudes expressed today (2008) by bloggingheads are far worse than they were in 2000 and 2004. Obama is Kerry magnified 10 times.

    And, wow, your blinders are becoming eye covers. Sen. Obama, his surrogates and his supporters/followers have been guilty of playing every card in the deck: race, age, income, gender, geography, to get what they want.

    Obama is an opportunist who has been packaged like a shiny new product to appeal to the ADHD generation whose knowledge of politics and process is so vacuuous as to be almost funny, if it weren’t so.damned.sad.

  • I refrained from sending a vituperative email to Kathleen Parker. However, she is now high up on my list of people whom it is healthier to ignore than to hate. That puts her in company she probably likes, such as Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, Norquist, Gingrich, Delay, etc. you know, the usual gang of evildoers who don’t think they’re evil.

  • impeachcheneythenbush – your slander is duly noted. No – don’t use wikis when I want information – I understand that they are easily modified for various uses.

    If I have something to share, I have better publishing options than a wiki.

    Glad ya feel strongly about ’em. but only an idiot uses a wiki without knowing the information can be posted for a variety of reasons.

    Really – get a grip, its not a big deal. Some people post mindless crap here, some send it as an email, some use wikis, some are even in print media.

    Surely you have something better to be concerned with than a few lines of cyber text at a public trough like a wiki?

    At least, if you were half the “progressive” that your clever handle procliams.

  • laura = concern toll. Not the endless slamming on bogs and Obama without a single mention of any issues of substance that affect the majority of Americans.

    In fact, a visit to her blog just shows that she is a shillary-bot and, obviously, a sore looser. Not going to be any changes with 28 years of bush-clinton-bush-clinton – oh, and she doesn’t allowed posts unless you registar with her silly little blog (and scrolling through post, looks like no one registars or posts – what a surprise!)

    COULD THIS REALLY BE BOTH OUR MARY AND GREG!?!?!?!?

  • Isn’t it scary to think that even though Obama jokes about his relation as a distant cousin to Cheney, Obama has those dark traits. America now knows is not too cool? Or what other traits have accended through that are not too obvious that America does not know about. Could be those that rally around Obama will find out he is not too cool either.

    I am totally convinced there is a huge ton of stuff out there that is deliberately with held and is being timed for political reasons to move the electorate to swing the vote. And, right now it is actually exposing Mainstream Media in a true way. When I say that with a sense of laughter and grittiness as one might discover the real intentions behind the Media Mercenaries of MSNBC, CNN, and FOX.

    There never was a debate, that’s the funny part of all this stuff. It only takes a good debate to question what needs to answer here about Obama’s ties to corruption and your tax money from Iraqi billionaire’s. That alone shows the complicity Mainstream Media has in manipulating this election. And, very importantly the Republican connection, State Department, to let mystery Iraqi corruption into America. It is worse than an out rage, here, Obama just side steps it all to collect money. Incredible.

    From my view, after reading Curtain Time for Barack Obama – Part III is a must read and if true is going to send Obama into a tail spin.

    http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/14657

    If you read and dig deep in Evelyn Pringle’s article above, and think about those Iraqi and Syrian born person’s likely loaded with American tax money funneled from corruption in Iraq, Personal character about Barack Hussein Obama fails every ethical basic, simple, American value system we all can believe. After thinking about all this corruption surrounding Obama with billionaire connections to missing money from Iraq, the basic’s in oversight of Mainstream Media again rear that ugly head to show America that it not always has been ugly out here, it has always been ugly in there, in the back rooms of the Media Mercenaries.

    It is not the back room of closed doors and fat smoking delegates of the Democratic National Convention. America it is the fat cat’s of Mainstream Media playing with our minds. MSNBC goes from the political Fix, to Hardball, to the Big Number, which should be the Electoral College numbers yet rants on the delegate numbers that can change anytime, then starts up the Side Show, and then what did you learn with Morning Joe, and Dick Gregory with the six headed gate keepers of political sidestepping, the dog show of political misery keeping Hillary in a cage of negative news and despair declared guilty as not electable, yet Hillary acquired ten of millions of votes, Abrams declares a verdict to make Media Judgement based on smear open sedition and verbal treachery, then Olbermann pile drives Bush into the ground only this past years after the Democrats gain a small margin in Congress. And, after the GOP can not sell anymore political dog food, Bush is finally recognized as the worst person in the world. Likely this will be the first administration that could go to the gallows. The cry is worse then Water-Gate.

    If Democrats are elected into Office, they will likely answer the call. Those of the Neo-Con party will likely be punished to parish, and finally the real Conservative Party will merge from the abyss. You see America it is not just being a good Democrat, it is being a “Better Conservative” that will Change America.

  • #48 I am constantly amazed that the blue collar workers that you are talking about cannon realized that the Republican Party has used them for years to get elected. Once the Republicans get power, their whole reason for being is to make sure that all the wealth of this country is funneled into the pockets of the top 5% of Americans. Have you ever heard of the L Curve? Google it. You will find that 1% of the people in this country control 95% of our wealth. No wonder there isn’t enough money to “trickle down” to the poor and the middle class. Hell, yes, I would be angry too if I were a “blue collar American,” but I hope I would finally wake up and realize what party has stolen all the wealth of this country. There is a good reason that the Republican Party is known as the party of the wealthy. Wake up, America, and stop being distracted from your real situation by these phony distractions about race and elitism. Calling Obama elitist is quite funny, considering McCain’s family background and Hillary’s wealth. At least Obama was never raised by affluent parents. He does know about the other side of America.

  • Just unbelievable!
    The Washington Post and the NYTImes are both becoming “Foxified”.

  • #48 Line one should read “cannot realize.” Forgot to check my comment.

  • As “only” a 2nd generation American, these dog-whistle calls about so-called American heritage piss me off to no end. We were ALL — every one of us — immigrants once.

  • CB asks who cares if Obama is a first generation American? If Obama were a first generation American (e.g., a naturalized immigrant), he would not be eligible to run for president, so to some extent nativism is built into the constitution and we all care. I’m not in favor of changing that because I don’t want other nations meddling in our internal politics. There is a long history of people feeling that immigrants who arrive in large numbers and then vote are doing exactly that. This isn’t only a matter of bigotry but also a matter of election dynamics — look up the history of machine politics in cities with large immigrant populations, and then look up the influence of machines on recent elections (such as delivery of the election to JFK via manipulation of votes in Cook County). Yes, Republicans tend to be bigots, but historically, the issue of the impact of immigration on elections is more complex than you are recognizing (not that I think Parker was doing that kind of analysis either).

    I am not Laura or Greg (or vice versa). There is more than one Hillary supporter in the country.

  • dirty.. shameful.. vile
    you editors need a reality check..
    please..
    show some discipline.
    ..

  • mary – are you telling me there are 3?

    Well, then you have been lying about her huge amount of support, right?

  • Where as a Native ahawaiian do I belong in your America…After fighting in your Vietnam war?

  • I followed the link to Pringle’s article on Obama and the Rezko/Auchi testimony. I hadn’t been aware of any of that stuff before.

    I agree that the strongest connection there was some campaign contributions that Obama has since donated to charity, but it is also clear from the article (which relies on testimony that is a matter of record now) that Obama has been lying about his associations with both Rezko and Auchi. Maybe that’s all there is, but you might consider whether that will be enough to torpedo Obama in the Fall.

    I also found myself wondering whether Clinton is hanging around in order to be available if this all blows up in Obama’s face. The connection to missing Iraqi millions and to the mideast in general seems potentially explosive and it doesn’t matter whether it is true or not, as Whitewater demonstrates (Clintons were exonerated of ALL wrongdoing yet people still believe there was corruption there).

    Since you are all Obama supporters here, please explain how you think Obama would be able to weather something like this, should it hit the mainstream media in a big way. Also, why should the Republicans not make an issue of this? Isn’t it possible the Republicans are laying low until after the primary because they prefer Obama as the candidate since this can be used to their advantage to put McCain into office? I’d seriously like to know why this isn’t a major vulnerability for Obama.

  • Mary, Mary, Mary. You’re little “e.g.” @ 58 is like so much of what you write off the mark. A “first generation” American is someone like my father, whose parents immigrated to Maine from Quebec. He was born in the US. He is first generation. In the strictly Constitutional sense, he was eligible to become president.

    And, for the record, it is not your support of Hillary is not what offends me and – against the better angels of my nature – causes me to want to respond to much of what you post here with harshness. It is the fact that your arguments are weak and consistently riddled with erroneous information. Your posts are becoming like just so many fish in a barrel. It is tiresome.

  • We in Hawaii were never immigrants…get over it..Get off of your uneducated jingoistic attitude!

  • “Full-blooded” does not mean born here. Obama was, McCain wasn’t. It does not mean living her a long time – Obama’s grandfather fought in WWII. It is not about Africa. Terresa Heinze was African, and she didn’t “threaten” white Americans. Obama is not like those people Parker talks about moving next door because he’s not an immigrant. It’s not about Obama not believing in God, as Parker talks about, because Obama has stronger ties to Christianity than the Whatever-denomination’s-convenient McCain.

    So what is it about Obama that’s different? What are these values Hillary gets, but Obama doesn’t? It’s not policy.

    So what is it?

    I can only think of two things, and one of them is that he’s a Democrat.

  • TuiMel, I admit to being human, as are we all. You do not explain why you must abuse me instead of just skipping my posts (if you don’t feel like posting contradictions or corrections). I notice errors here all the time, but it would be churlish to point them out — sort of like spelling flames. Maria’s ignorance about the plot of Macbeth comes to mind — couldn’t resist that one. I find other people’s arguments weak too, but I try to restrict my name-calling to Obama. In return, I’m called a drunk or a crazy person, a liar, a troll, ad nauseum. There’s no excuse for it.

    First generation is defined inconsistently, even by those social scientists and historians who study immigration, so your personal interpretation doesn’t settle the matter for anyone except you. I’ve seen the term used different ways in different contexts by different people over the past few decades. Obama is a non-naturalized citizen, so it is irrelevant — my point is only that someone’s naturalization status does matter in politics. Don’t bother posting Wikipedia quotes. Ignoring the fact that immigration issues are a political hot button for reasons unrelated to bigotry makes this a superficial discussion whose only point is to say nasty things about Parker (who fully deserves them, in my opinion). But that’s also boring and a cheap shot, so maybe people would like to talk about something more substantial. Maybe not.

  • Just let me say that the most decorated unit in WWII came from Hawaii, and were composed mostly of 2nd generation Japanese…So take your patriotism and do with what you chickenhawks will!

  • #62 Pringle is a McCain supporter and a Republican. You can bet your boots that if Hillary were the nominee. people such as Pringle would be dragging out worse than this to smear her. You can’t avoid this kind of thing when you’e running against the Republicans. They are ruthless and they have no shame. The only thing I could recommend is to find out about the writer and take what he/she says with a grain of salt if the writer has any ties to the Republicans. Haven’t we learned anything after nearly 8 years of Bush and Rove? If their mouths are moving, they are lying!

  • The sources she cites are not other Republicans and the article was posted at SmirkingChimp, which is not a Republican site. Dismissing the contents of the article by discrediting the author doesn’t change any of the facts in it, which are attributed to the testimony at the Rezko hearings and thus verifiable independently. I do not believe it will be enough for Obama to say that Republicans lie and will say anything if this stuff is raised in the Fall. It is clear that Obama has already tried feigning ignorance (much as he did with the initial Wright concerns). That won’t work when people dig deeper and can place him in Rezko and Auchi’s company on multiple occasions. Right now, he sounds a lot like the people who were all denying any association with Abramoff, and that won’t play with Dems or Republicans/Independents. We’ve heard all the Republicans deny, deny, deny and claim that everything is politically motivated, to the point where that is not a plausible defense. Does Obama have a stronger defense against this stuff and, I repeat, how will he address this if it is raised in the mainstream media? Does his campaign have any rebuttal?

  • I notice errors here all the time, but it would be churlish to point them out — sort of like spelling flames.

    Oh, excuse et moi. [Another fallen better angel.]

    You do not explain why you must abuse me instead of just skipping my posts (if you don’t feel like posting contradictions or corrections)

    You are partially right. I need to just keep moving, and nine times out of ten, I do. I’ll try to go ten out of ten in the future.

    With regard to posting contradictions, your posts speak for (and many times contradict) themselves. Others often have pointed out the problems with your reasoning long before I arrive on the scene, and I see no reason to cover the territory again. Not that it matters, but I have never called you a name or accused you of being a drunk. I have said that I have no respect for your arguments and the manner in which you advance them. But – not infrequently – what you post reads like an open invitation for mockery. You bring much of the sh!t you suffer upon yourself.

    And, yes, I have settled “first generation” for myself. And I have no idea to what your admonition about Wikipedia refers.

  • This is the same old let’s divide us into groups rather than work together (and the root cause is fear and mistrust of those who are different from us) garbage that keeps us from moving forward.

    Besides, people whose families have been here for hundreds of years are not all the same. Where did those people come from? Different countries in Europe, Asia, Africa, etc. who brought their own cultures with them. Some traditions that were brought over are still celebrated generations later. We’ve always been a multicultural country. That has been our strength, not our weakness, as a country.

    And the decendants of those immigrants have not all made sacrifices for our country, while many newer immigrants have: through building our railroads and infrastructure, serving in the military, and so on.

    TPTB are the ones exploiting our fears in order to keep their power and wealth. Let’s not let them succeed.

  • kawika49: Maybe I missed with whom you are upset, but most of us take your points and have no problem with those from Hawaii or those who immigrated to Hawaii from other lands.

    OK? 🙂

  • #52: Yawn. More Rezko garbage.

    Hint: by including Obama’s middle name into your comment, you out yourself as a troll. Intelligent people aren’t falling for that cr*p, ‘K?

  • The Pringle article referred to by Mary and Megalomania seems silly. At worst, Obama’s world intersected with the world of some apparently slimy wheeler-dealer types, without him realizing how slimy they were. Count me as shocked, a politician who raises money comes into contact with people who have money, and some of the people who have money came by some of it unethically. I’m not saying that’s a good thing, but since when do politicians live in a world of immaculate innocence? No one seems to have pressured Obama for anything, there’s no indication that he’s given any undue favors, and he gave the donations (which weren’t very big) to charity. This seems to be yet another case of trying to make Obama repsonsible for everything ever done by anyone that he has ever met.

    In contrast, consider the much worse cases of Bush’s business deals (his insider stock sales, his sports stadium financing, etc.), McCain’s Keating 5 scandal and his hand in various questionable land swaps, Hillary’s suspiciously phenomenal success in trading cattle futures, and Bill’s Kazakhstan Asian dealings. Although he has gone to PACs and lobbyists in the past, Obama is now steering clear of special interest money, notably unlike Clinton, and he seems to be operating far cleaner than your average presidential candidate. He’s certainly not perfect, but I like what he is trying to do.

  • If Ms. Parker wants to compare “bloodlines,” my “bloodline” in America was probably a century old when the transported sheep-fucker she’s descended from came here in chains and then graduated up to “indentured servant.” Then he started their family tradition of “inbreeding,” which results in this white trash idiot.

    If she wants to talk “sacrifice,” I have hanging on the wall about ten feet from this computer the sword taken from the Sergeant of the Hessian Guard at Trenton Barracks when my six-times-great grandfather crossed the Delaware with General Washington and saved the American Revolution, Hanging from that is a dented Union Army canteen, the dent made by a minieball from one of Hood’s Texans in their final assault up Little Round Top, when my great-great-grandfather fought there and saved the union. Hell, I’ve got my own war musuem of crap brought back from the wars by my ancestors, who fought in every meaningful war the country ever fought (no 1812, no Mexican War, no Spanish-American War).

    All of which is not said to impress anyone here, but rather to claim my right to tell this ignorant semi-literate proof that white Americans are mostly shitheads, that she can SHUT THE FUCK UP, BITCH!!!!

    My ancestors have spent the past 340 years fighting the ignorance and bullshit of tenth-wit sub-lemurs like you, you worthless bimbo.

    Do me a favor, Miss Patriotic American. GO FUCKING DIE. You disgust me.

    The fact that America is America is because in every generation people have had the guts to come here and refresh the dream wioth their belief in it. If all we had were the worthless pieces of incompetent shit like Ms. Parker, we’d have gone down the tubes long, long ago.

  • Mary – your little admonishment #58 to check up on machine politics at struck a chord with me – I’m interested in city politics and so have read quite a bit about the machines that controlled cities with immigrant voters from the 19th century until not so long ago. That’s what gave me the context to understand what was going on when I read about all the Chinese restaurant workers in NYC who donated, each in one lump sum, the maximum $2300 to H. Clinton’s campaign.

    Since others are using this thread to try to educate you about why your posts are so irritating, I’ll add that what bothers me the most about your writing is how blind it seems to be – how blind you appear to be – to the fact that what you decry in your opponents is exactly the behavior you’re using yourself. It’s a classic Publican character trait – assume that everyone else is doing whatever bad you are (or you want to do) and try to keep the spotlight off your own sins by directing it towards those “others.” I’m never sure if its moral blindness or just plain old hypocrisy.

    You aren’t much of the reason for why my attitude towards your candidate went from ‘barely tolerable’ to ‘totally untrustworthy,’ but you contributed in your own unique way.

  • Maria’s ignorance about the plot of Macbeth comes to mind — couldn’t resist that one.

    Mary, you dumbass, can you not get anything right? As I pointed out in that thread when I finally figured out why you were babbling incoherently and apparently irrelevantly about Macbeth, and as anyone not as tone deaf as you figured out immediately, that post early in the thread by “maria” wasn’t mine. It was either another Maria or someone stealing my handle–you, perhaps? You’ve been caught sockpuppeting before, with loads of handles.

  • I’m called a drunk or a crazy person, a liar, a troll, ad nauseum. There’s no excuse for it.

    You certainly are sensitive about people pointing out that some of your late-night posts sound like you’ve been drinking. And here I thought I was paying you the compliment of assuming you couldn’t have written that stuff sober.

    But is there some reason why when someone asks whether you’ve been drinking, you immediately freak out and protest that you’re not “a drunk”? There is some space between the two circumstances, you know, for people who aren’t addicted to alcohol.

  • Kathleen Parker knows she’s a Nazi, and doesn’t care. It would be much more effective to write every single paper who has run her column.

  • #71: Oh, excuse et moi.

    TuiMel, just a little tip: If you want to look cosmopolitan by using foreign language phrases, do yourself a favor and write them at least somewhat close to properly. It was good for a laugh, though, so if that was your intent, never mind the critique.

  • Could bigotry and hatred be replacing self-righteous ignorance as the new American badge of honor?

  • Mary @ 67: “… I’m called a drunk or a crazy person”

    Permit me to extend apologies to drunks and crazy people everywhere.

  • All I have to say about this ridiculous idea is this quote:

    Patriotism, n. In Dr. Johnson’s famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last resort of a scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer I beg to submit that it is the first.
    — Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary (1911)

  • When you write something like this shouldn’t you use your full-bloodedness as an example. How full blooded is Kathleen Parker, and how much hard work did her bloodline produce?

    I didn’t read her article, but did she say what the punishment would be for not making the mark? Is it full disenfranchisement? Is it 3/5ths vote? Inability to speak out? Okay to discriminate against?

  • So, “It’s about blood equity, heritage and commitment to hard-won American values. And roots.”

    So Bush’s grandfather finances the Nazi war machine, and it takes the Justice Department to prosecute him in 1942, (one year after the US entered the war), to get Prescott Bush to stop funding the enemy. “His business dealings, which continued until his company’s assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.” http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

    I guess those are the roots and heritage values in the United States? On another note, apparently, Bush really does understand what “appeaser” means…but then again, that is not exactly right…Nazi benefactor would be more appropriate…

  • We’ve all heard this line of thinking before. Didn’t the Nazi’s have a similar philosophy? With a charismatic and powerful leader this idea could be twisted into something similar all in the name of “patriotism” and “nativism”.

    This is a very dangerous idea and it stuns me that in this day in age that someone would actually write and think that its a good idea.

    I just re-read the entire article again. I had to leave a complaint that the Chicago Tribune allowed this garbage to be posted.

  • Here’s your hypocrisy — you defend Obama by claiming that his Rezko problems are nothing but then believe every claim made against Clinton, such as the idea that China is funneling funds to her campaign via NYC immigrants. There is every reason for Chinese immigrants (many of whom are not poor but are running community businesses) to support her on their own initiative without being under the direction of some foreign govt. I am close to $2300 myself and the recent article about how Clinton’s donors are maxing out shows that many legitimate supporters write checks like that. Because we are not Chinese, no suspicion falls on our donations. Then, I am called disingenuous because I do not believe all of the crappy things said about Clinton while you believe none of the criticisms raised against Obama (even when it is not me making the criticisms). We are not much different.

  • I was going to respond to her column in the comments section of some of the papers where her column appears, but then I read the rules of engagement:

    We don’t allow comments that degrade others on the basis of gender, race, class, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sexual orientation or disability. Epithets, abusive language and obscene comments will not be tolerated… nor will

    Can someone help me out, here? I can’t seem to find a part of Parker’s column that I can paste in the comments without violating the rules.

  • JL: Nice! Yours is the best response so far, I’m glad I made it all the way down.

  • ooooooh! gooooooody!!!

    Send her an email, SEND HER AN EMAIL! That should make a difference! Mark it URGENT and demand an electronic RECEIPT. CC in all your friends too.

    Folks like you are brilliant – taking meaningful action for change.

    Thanks for being a SUPER BLOGGER and changing the world from your keyboard, one email at a time.

  • I’d assumed, if Barack Obama was the Democratic nominee for president, that even unhinged, far-right writers would be cautious about how they’d go about smearing him. Unbridled racism would be considered a political liability, and therefore shunned.

    Damn this is complicated.

    First things first – Never underestimate the ability and determination of the GOP and their ignorant supporters to perpetuate a racist stereotype. That’s how we got into the Iraq war in the first place.

    Secondly and for the first time, I’m not sure this is all about racism.

    I’m not saying it’s not a political tactic and going to be used a racist smear by some ignorant and backwards white people. Especially those who insist, virtually everyone, that Obama is black despite his mother being white. He could just as easily be labled white but because his skin is the palest of browns, that is an impossibility in the America we live in for whites and for blacks.

    Beyond race, I know that it gave me pause when I heard that Obama’s parents “aren’t from here”. And this has been discussed ad nauseam on various black blogs regarding, not just Obama’s “blackness” but his American Blackness. Despite the opression of black people everywhere on the planet, most Black American feel their opression is unique and possibly more bitter due to the legacy of slavery and a country that promises to include them and really doesn’t any more than it absolutely has to.

    In Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope, he says that he can list and has suffered the usual litany of “petty slights” that most black men in particular and black people in general can attest to: Being followed in stores, being pulled over for no reason, etc.

    I personally had a problem with these issues being called petty especially as these petty slights have led to many black being falsely accused, jailed, beaten and even killed- recently. The Sean Bell’s, Amadou Diallou’s, Timothy Thomas’, hell, even the Cynthia McKinney’s or Oprah claiming she was discriminated against (which quickly lost her stature with whites to the point she won’t talk about it anymore) – these things are not petty. They can cost you- everything from mere inconvenience to loss of your life.

    And I, along with other black people I’ve discussed this with (still a small sampling and not to be regarded as the opinion of all black people) feel that Obama’s parentage, upbringing and current life shelter him from these issues. It’s so easy to forget just exactly what people are going through, especially if you have never really experienced it…or lost someone, directly because of virulent and ugly bigotry.

    So, I have my doubts, but I for one, am willing to believe that Obama “gets it”. Whites will have their reasons for asking is he American enough and blacks will wonder if he is Black American enough. I guess we’re all going to have to realize that Obama’s American experience may not be the same as our own, but it’s still his American life. That he’s putting up with all our bullshit prejudices to try and lead us to a better America…hell he deserves to be President for no other reason.

  • mary – don’t get me wrong, I would love to see the clenis in the WH again, be able to hear rush limpballs and gang relive their attacks from clinton years, and watch shillary make the US a better place for monsanto, walmart, and the corpocracy.

    It would be great – but it wasn’t meant to be. Obama is getting more voters, more super delegates, and the support of the nation. Guess the rest of America doesn’t want a bush-clinton-bush-clinton junta.

    Sorry about that.

  • I sent a friend of mine the link to Parker’s “article” and he replied back to me that maybe Parker should take a good look at the pictures of all those who were killed needlessly in Bush’s “War of Choice”. A great many were recent immigrants and first generations who moved to the US for a chance at a better life.

    If they were good enough to die for a worthless cause, they, and all others like them, should be counted as “full Americans”.

    Fuck Kathleen Parker.

  • Speaking of lying liars and dishonest campagns, mcclame is now running ads that he has solved all of American problems in 2013. You read that right!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB3BNgdfEkI

    He’s proclaiming MISSION ACCOMPLISHED in 2013! Pretty desparate, no? No one runs ads like this – something that would surely bite them in the ass when up for re-election.

  • I am close to $2300 myself and the recent article about how Clinton’s donors are maxing out shows that many legitimate supporters write checks like that. Because we are not Chinese, no suspicion falls on our donations.

    I think the suspicion fell not on their ethnicity, but on the circumstance that most of the gobs of people in that area who were supposedly maxing out in one-time donations for Clinton were very low-income individuals. Having this occur in such unusual numbers in a concentrated area at least raises the possibility of the old (and illegal) trick of already-maxed-out people giving money to someone else for the purpose of making legal contributions in the second person’s name.

    I’m glad to see you suddenly sticking up for perceived anti-ethnic bias, though. Maybe now you can take a few minutes off from maligning African Americans as a group. It could be like a special “only on Sundays” thing.

    Regarding the “close to $2300,” you may enjoy getting some basic info about campaign financing to add to the many lessons we’ve given you in remedial research. Combined (it doesn’t have to be single) contributions of $200 or more to a particular candidate must be reported by that candidate’s campaign to the FEC. All of that information is available online. So the name of anyone whose contributions to Clinton have totaled at least $200 will show up on opensecrets.org. You should go visit your name there and pat yourself on the back for your stalwart support. And if your name doesn’t show up–well, probably just a mistake. You’re always telling us how shaky those 60-odd-year-old memories are.

  • What they sense is that their heritage is being swept under the carpet while multiculturalism becomes the new national narrative. And they fear what else might get lost in the remodeling of America.

    Republicans more than Democrats seem to get this, though Hillary Clinton has figured it out. […]

    I have precious little doubt that Obama has “figured it out” too.
    The difference is that Hilary accepted it.

    The Republicans expertise in indulging these Neanderthals; feigning commiseration in their self-pity and inflated pride in their ancestry at the expense of all others’ is not a skill I hope the Democrats master. Ever.

  • Phoebes and Kawika:

    Phoebes, your point is both fabulous and gut-wrenching. That is definitely a point that needs to be made to Kathleen Parker in a reply editorial. INS and the DOD have numbers on how many soldiers in Iraq are immigrants recently naturalized or awaiting naturalization. That, more than anything else, would shine the light of scrutiny on her disgusting racist screed. Kawika, how many people with the 25th ID out of Schofield didn’t come back from the Bush crime family’s soirée in downtown Baghdad? I’m sure many of them were recent immigrants or first-generation. My brother was born in Dominican Republic, and is now with the 82nd Airborne sitting in that hole. “Full-blooded American” indeed!

  • Cathleen said:
    “Reading that McCain’s father and grandfather were 4 star generals ”

    Then whatever reading you did was wrong. McCains father was an Admiral. US Navy.
    Not Army, USAF or Marine.

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