The religious right splits on Giuliani

Former New York City Mayor [tag]Rudy Giuliani[/tag] doesn’t seem the type to win a Republican presidential primary. He’s [tag]pro-choice[/tag] and supports [tag]gay[/tag] rights. Towards the end of his tenure, he even lived with two gay friends after his wife threw him out of the house for adultery.

With this in mind, [tag]Jerry Falwell[/tag]’s concerns seem like a no-brainer.

The Rev. Jerry [tag]Falwell[/tag] doesn’t see any Democrat making inroads with evangelical Christian voters in the next presidential election. Potential Republican candidate Rudolph [tag]Giuliani[/tag], the former New York city mayor, won’t be scoring any points with Falwell, either. “Everybody admires him. And I’ll never forget the great things he did on 9/11 and following,” Falwell said.

“But, of course, we have, as conservative Christians who take the Bible seriously, we have probably irreconcilable differences on life and family and that kind of thing,” Falwell said Sunday on “Late Edition” on CNN. “I’ll never speak an ill word about him because he means so much to America. But, yes, you’re right. I couldn’t support him for president,” he said.

No big surprise, right? Well, no, but it’s of at least some interest in light of [tag]Pat Robertson[/tag]’s support of Giuliani. Just a week ago, [tag]Robertson[/tag] was on CBS News praising the former mayor.

“I don’t share some of his social point of view, but Rudy is a tremendous leader. And he ran a big city. So I think in terms of just competency for presidency, he’d be a good one.”

This follows similar comments from a year ago, in which Robertson told George Stephanopoulos, “Rudy’s a very good friend of mine, and he did a super job running the City of New York. And I think he’d make a good president. I like him a lot.”

Just yesterday, the New York Times noted that there are subtle fissures among [tag]evangelical[/tag] Christians between “centrists,” who want to tackle moral issues beyond a conservative political agenda, and “traditionalists,” who dominate the religious right leadership.

I’d argue, however, that even among traditionalists, there are two camps — “idealists,” who put moral issues above political expediency, and “pragmatists,” who’d vote for anyone with a “R” after their name that they thought might win.

I think both Fawell and Robertson are damning Guiliani with faint praise. They know they would lose for the Republicanites a portion of the electorate if they openly attacked and disdained the mayor who lead New York City through the 9/11 aftermath. They don’t want to do that.

But they don’t really want him to be the front-runner for 2008 either. I’m sure their calculation is “Don’t get Rudy all riled up about our opposition and maybe he won’t throw his hat into the ring”.

And CB, Rudy’s wife ‘threw’ him out of the house, not ‘through’ him out of the house.

  • Rudy’s wife ‘threw’ him out of the house, not ‘through’ him out of the house.

    Damn Monday mornings…

  • Good analysis, CB. It’s folks like Guiliani who are the litmus test between the “serious” zealots and the “pragmatic” ones. And it gives me hope that there really is an opportunity here that this situation reveals to complete the fracture of the religious right.

    If America is a “Christian Nation,” then the Christians should have no problem fielding a political party of their own since their message ought to resonate with almost every citizen, right? Then why not dump the GOP middleman? With the GOP, you get all the added baggage of neocon ideology, corporatists, corruption, ideological mutts like Giuliani, in fact all kinds of goals and objectives that distract from the pure Christian agenda. And add to the mix the disappointing inability of the GOP to give the religious right what it wants, except for a low scrap here or there.

    So, religious right (the “serious” ones, that is), have confidence! If you believe all your notions about the US being a Christian Nation(tm), then give the GOP the kiss of Judas and start a party that can stay on message. And…good luck!

  • I’m not sure pragmatism is the thing. A lot of conservatives like Rudy because he’s authoritarian. And he sticks up for religion in a very histrionic way. (Remember elephant dung?)

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