The response was underwhelming

In recent years, it’s often been assumed that the president could deliver a war-related speech on a military base and receive an enthusiastic response. It’s practically a foregone conclusion — men and women in uniform are going to give their commander in chief a boisterous response, especially when he’s trying to motivate them with encouraging words about their mission.

But have you noticed lately that this assumption isn’t quite what it used to be? From Reuters:

President George W. Bush admitted on Wednesday that Americans are weary of the Iraq war and defended his decision to send more troops to Iraq before a number of soldiers about to deploy there.

Dozens of camouflage-wearing troops sat quietly at their lunch tables, some joined by family members, as Bush spoke during a visit to this remote base in the high desert of California, where Iraqi-American actors train soldiers to understand Iraq’s cultural differences. […]

A number of the troops who listened quietly are from units about to rotate into service in Iraq.

This comes just a couple of months after the president appeared at Ft. Benning, where Bush was reportedly looking for a “friendly audience and a patriotic backdrop” to help sell his escalation policy. He didn’t get the reception he expected.

The New York Times said Bush “received a restrained response from soldiers who clapped politely but showed little of the wild enthusiasm that they ordinarily shower on the commander in chief.” The Washington Post noted that Bush received minimal applause, which was “hardly the boisterous, rock-star reception Bush typically gets at military bases. During his lunchtime speech, the soldiers were attentive but quiet. The LA Times said the president “received a less enthusiastic reception.” The far-right Washington Times said the troops’ response to the president was “tepid.”

The president’s support is down to about 30%. I get the sense that the troops and their families are with the other 70%.

Update: An alert reader reminds me of a report from a year ago.

The attacks against critics at military settings may have put troops in the awkward position of undermining their own regulations. A Department of Defense directive doesn’t allow service members in uniform to attend “partisan political events.”

Questions have been raised about the military’s attendance at events where Bush says something like “they spoke the truth then, they’re speaking politics now.” Several members of the military told FOX News that Bush is inviting the troops to take sides in a partisan debate in his speeches.

“This is a very bad sign,” said retired Marine Gen. Joseph Hoar, who led Central Command in the early 1990s and is an administration critic. “This is the sort of thing that you find in other countries where the military and political, certain political parties are aligned.” […]

“Where you have our uniformed members being put in a position where it looks like they’re rooting for one side or another is very disconcerting,” said Greg Noone, a former Navy lawyer.

Might this explain the less-than-enthusiastic response Bush received yesterday? Maybe, but I’m not convinced. Bush has appeared at dozens of war-related speeches on military bases, and he used to receive enthusiastic welcomes. Lately, we’re seeing less or that, and a) it’s unlikely Pentagon regulations are more important now than they were a few years ago; and b) that this is some kind of coincidence.

Bush should limit his appearances to the American Legion, properly vetted (check those bumper stickers), and only after they have had 15-25 beers.
I’ll bet he pouted on the way back to Crawford.

  • It’s not just the Iraqi War. This administration has actively tried, and often succeeded, in cutting Health Care benefits for Active and Retired Military, in cutting Family Housing for the Military, Education for the Children of the Military, and so on down the line. The only curious thing is what took the Miltary so long to notice.

  • How long will we wait until the first far-right blog starts screaming about the “traitorous, unpatriotic troops” who dare to disagree with their C-in-C?

  • Bush whines:

    Democrats who are trying to impose a pullout deadline are “fine, fine people” and patriotic, he said. But “we cannot allow honest differences in Washington” to hurt the troops, he added.

    Cool. So get ready to sign the bill that those fine, fine, patriotic people passed in Congress. You know, the one that actually supports the troops by providing training and materials they need.

    Or… keep giving the American people the finger.

    Your choice, George.

    And George, it’s not just the Democrats who are forcing you to end your quagmire, it’s the majority of Americans. You’re not the King. You work for us, and we say stop.

  • Untrained ‘Surge’ soldier dies in Iraq

    From the article:

    “One of the soldiers died just hours after arriving in Iraq — and was one of those troops rushed to the country in the “surge” who did not receive full training.”

    … “some Iraq veterans in the 1st Brigade have expressed concerns about their younger counterparts missing the mission rehearsal. ‘The training was good but some guys came in after that. They’re basically going straight from basic training into Iraq,’ said Staff Sgt. Jason Massey last month, before saying goodbye to his family for a third combat tour.”

    This must stop!

  • Bush is venturing into territory not seen in the American military since 1970-71. In my experience with the GI antiwar movement during Vietnam, for every guy willing to speak up and become identified as a “troublemaker” by the authorities, there were 100 others who agreed with him and whose beliefs were shown in the enthusiasm with which they did their jobs. I hear similar things nowadays from the modern GI movement.

    Bush has broken the military. Nobody knows that better than the people who are in it. They know who issues the orders and who is responsible, whether our little frog-killer wants to admit it or not.

  • Bush “received a restrained response from soldiers who clapped politely but showed little of the wild enthusiasm that they ordinarily shower on the commander in chief.”

    Wouldn’t you love to know the percentage of the audience that voted for him?

  • “One of the soldiers died just hours after arriving in Iraq — and was one of those troops rushed to the country in the “surge” who did not receive full training.”

    What makes this triply disgusting is the fact that the Deciderator is stomping around insisting that it’s the Democrats who will leave the soldiers untrained and ill-equipped. Yes, because all of those other untrained, tired, ill-equipped “you go to war with the army you have” troops don’t count. If ShrubMonkey’s goal in life is to make Dick Nixon look like a lovable rouge then Misson bloody well Accomplished.

    Forgive the histronics but every so often it hits me: America is being run by a man I wouldn’t trust with a goddamned penny and I feel dizzy. Is this what he meant by ShocknAwe (TM)?

  • “As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”—H..L..Mencken

  • Wow – so the troops now realize that the Crony-in-Chief lives in a Banana Republic where one man is above the law; whereas, they live in the United States of America where their lives and the Rule of Law used to mean something.

    and the times, they are a-changin’

  • There was a newsclip on TP a few days ago — don’t know how many of you have seen it — about a soldier father coming home from Iraq unexpectedly and surprising his son in his kindergarten class.

    I guess it was supposed to have been an up-beat clip — here’s a soldier coming home. But what struck me most, what was the most heart-wrenching to me, was the child’s reaction. He saw his father in the doorway and didn’t say anything — no yelling “Dad! Dad, you’re back! The child just ran, silently, *sobbing so hard he shook*. And when he was in his father’s arms, he kept shaking and sobbing, and saying nothing, just clinging to his father for dear life.

    That’s how children wake up from a nightmare, when the bad dream still supersedes the reality. And it is inexcusable that Bush has created a world where 6yr olds *live* in a nightmare, day in, day out. It’s not just the matter of what Bush is doing to the soldiers, though that’s bad enough. It’s what he’s doing to a generation of children, who will be emotionally maimed for years.

    I’m not surprised Bush is getting a cool reception from the soldiers; I just wonder what had taken them so long to get over the initial enthusiasm.

  • I just wonder what had taken them so long to get over the initial enthusiasm.

    I wonder if their COs have just stopped telling them they’d better clap harder or else.

    Another thing about prezidentyall visits: Any visit from a potential assasination target is incredibly disruptive. Add to that he’s going before an audience getting ready to deploy or training people about to deploy to a war zone. I can see why they would be less than thrilled to have some jumped up draft dodger fuck their lives up even more because he’s dropped by for an ego boost and a few piccies of him “supporting” the troops.

  • As a veteran of an other unpopular war, I sense that the soldiers have reached their limit of chickenshit and bullshit. Soldiers can put up, indeed must put up, with large doses of both. But when they have had their fill, they’re done. My experience is that they will keep quiet and especially in the presence of the president, they will be unfailingly polite, but they know better than anyone when they’re taking a fucking for a politician–and while they won’t embarass him, they won’t move a muscle to help him screw them again.

    I agree that it’s dumb to ascribe their tepid applause to a perceived need to be balanced politically. They are tired of fighting a stupid war–their wives and children are tired of waiting for the phone call or the car that pulls up loaded with men in uniform. The starch has gone out of the COUNTRY, for this fight, so how can they muster any enthusiasm when they’re the poor bastards who have to fight. And how can we as a nation allow any more of this insane posturing? The fools that got us into this have got be stopped, with impeachment if necessary, and our nation must learn that bravery is more than the wilingness to send someone else’s child off to die in a foreign country.

  • Bush is like a little child that deliberately broke his toy and is telling his military that he is grateful they are going to fix it. These proud men and women aren’t buying it. They know it is too broken. This silence speaks volumes.

  • ***And it is inexcusable that Bush has created a world where 6yr olds *live* in a nightmare, day in, day out. It’s not just the matter of what Bush is doing to the soldiers, though that’s bad enough. It’s what he’s doing to a generation of children, who will be emotionally maimed for years.***

    Libra—in those few simple words, you—via TP—have just given the world “The Legacy of George W. Bush.” Worthy of a standing ovation—yes?

  • As to when the tipping point came:
    I don’t think there was any single event: it’s been drawing into sight for a long time now. If it has to be tied to any event, it’d probably be the last election with the change in Congress and the Democrats ability to effectively oppose Bush, regardless of what he might choose to say about it.
    Then there’s all the corruption that’s come to light over the last eighteen months: it can’t inspire confidence in the government.

  • (Via Wallyrp at AOL)

    From The Military Times:

    Down on the war
    Poll: More troops unhappy with Bush’s course in Iraq

    By Robert Hodierne
    Senior managing editor
    Dec. 29, 2006

    For the first time, more troops disapprove of the president’s handling of the war than approve of it. Barely one-third of service members approve of the way the president is handling the war, according to the 2006 Military Times Poll.

    Just as telling, in this year’s poll only 41 percent of the military said the U.S. should have gone to war in Iraq in the first place, down from 65 percent in 2003.

  • About time. Bush has gone to the military “bin” too many times. Even loyal troops, those who understand their oath of service and who obey their commander in chief, recognize that a return to IraqNam is a potential death sentence, or at least a place to get their minds and bodies shattered.

    If the troops would start lauging at him, the Rovian brain trust would stop with these photo ops. Unfortunately, the reality of their immediate futures is nothing to laugh about.

  • And it is inexcusable that Bush has created a world where 6yr olds *live* in a nightmare, day in, day out. It’s not just the matter of what Bush is doing to the soldiers, though that’s bad enough. It’s what he’s doing to a generation of children, who will be emotionally maimed for years.***
    Libra—in those few simple words, you—via TP—have just given the world “The Legacy of George W. Bush.” Worthy of a standing ovation—yes?

    Comment by Steve — 4/5/2007 @ 9:08 pm
    Yes and I have done a painting of George & Laura dancing gaily at the 2005 inaugural, with a 4 year old Iraqi girl covered in her dead Mother’s blood, shot at a checkpoint, in the foreground!
    I’m still in screaming outrage at Jessica Lynch’s ‘s dead Native Indian friend leaving behind 2 orphaned children. What kind of C I C sends single Mothers out to the front lines?????
    ( Sorry I don’t remember her name……too much info crammed into this old head in the last 5 6 years!)
    I was safe in USA during my WWII childhood. BUT I DIDN’T KNOW THAT UNTIL THE WAR ENDED!

  • Shrub may not be smart enough to understand the cool reception, but his advisors will. This may well be one of his last photo ops with the troops for they have spoken. Their attitude says the party is over for this tinsel town king and his gang of criminals.

  • The true death rattle is when the spirit leaves the troops.IT HAS! Thank the universe.They face the true weight and futility of this miserable operation, We see the light hopefully will see The end for this criminal,moronic,traitorous, treasonous, commander and chimp. IMPEACH THIS ADMINISTRATION NOW!!
    PEACE
    kat

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