The rise of ‘Tancredoism’ and the fall of the GOP

Guest Post by Morbo

It has been fun watching the Republican presidential candidates savage one another. But eventually, enough GOP voters will cast ballots and settle on a candidate. That’s when the real fun will start. What will he run on?

Continuing the smashing successes of the Bush administration? Um, no. The performance of the economy? I don’t think so. The pressing need for more wars in the Middle East? Probably not.

For a long time, I thought I knew: The GOP campaign would be some variation of this theme: “Those damn illegal aliens! Let’s round them all up and ship them back to where they came from, and then let’s build a giant fence around the Southern border. Illegal aliens bad! Grrrr!”

But oddly enough, for all of the ranting and raving you hear about this topic in the mainstream media, it apparently doesn’t promise much of a payoff for the Republicans. As Ryan Lizza noted in The New Yorker recently, the rise of “Tancredoism” in the GOP (so named for House member Tom Tancredo of Colorado, whose hardline views on illegal immigration fuel his long shot presidential campaign) so far has only led to more trouble for the party.

Not long ago, leading Republicans embraced policies on immigration that were nearly sensible. The emergence of Tancredoism as the party’s default position has alienated the growing body of Hispanic voters and so far has not delivered at the polls. Some House members who embraced Tancredo’s views lost in 2006, and the GOP’s efforts to use the issue in Virginia’s statewide elections last month flopped badly.

For all of the blather on talk radio and the nightly obsessions of Lou Dobbs, the immigration issue does not resonate much with the average voter. Notes Lizza:

Anti-immigrant passion also owes much to the disproportionate influence of a few small states in the nominating process. National polls show that, as an issue, immigration is far behind the Iraq war, terrorism, the economy, and health care as a concern to most Americans; a recent Pew poll shows that, nationally, only six per cent of voters offer immigration as the most important issue facing the country. But in Iowa and South Carolina, two of the three most important early states, it is a top concern for the Republicans who are most likely to vote.

As I’ve observed this dynamic unfold, I’ve wondered why this approach isn’t working. It has in the past.

In the 19th Century, you could openly beat on the Irish, the Slavs and the Chinese and no one would blink. But today it’s no so cool to be an open bigot. Yes, it’s permissible to harbor concerns about border security, but when you start criticizing someone for the way they look, speak or celebrate their culture, a lot of Americans cringe.

And the anti-illegal forces always go there. Consider Dean Allen of South Carolina. Allen is working with Buddy Witherspoon, a Republican who is mounting a primary challenge to U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham, mostly over the immigration issue. Allen told Lizza:

“The illegal Hispanic population, it’s definitely growing. I can tell you just from how many you see when you walk in Wal-Mart, and you drive down the street and you see buildings now with writing in Spanish that says ‘tienda,’ which is Mexican for ‘store.’ You didn’t see that even a year or two ago.”

The problem with this statement is that it’s not an argument against illegal immigration. It is an argument against people speaking Spanish and using Spanish-language signs on their shops. Every one of those shop owners may be here legally. We could completely seal the border tomorrow, and those signs would still be there.

You don’t have to push the hardcore anti-immigrant faction too hard to get them away from talking about border fences to moaning about the fact that you have to press 1 to hear English when you call the bank. They are nativist bigots, plain and simple, and I would like to think that the American people will reject their divisive approach.

So far, at least, the polls show we are.

What is it about Americans? Every major city has a Chinatown, buildings with Chinese lettering, menus with Chinese lettering. We take it for granted, in fact. If there’s a significant Jewish population and kosher shops display Hebrew writing, nobody gets upset.

But put “Tienda” on you store and all hell breaks out.

Do certain Americans feel threatened by Mexicans? That must be it. None of “us” is likely to open a Chinese restaurant or a Jewish Bakery. But Mexicans are willing (eager?) to do the same work we used to do when the pay was relatively better. That must be it.

  • . . . I would like to think that the American people will reject their divisive approach.

    Well, I’d like to see some Dems using this issue and forcing Repub’s to come strong on immigration. Hmm, an issue they must respond to to win with a core base but that isn’t supported by the general population? HELLO? Wedge issue? Dems should be doing everything they can to force Repubs to build a record on this issue and them tear them up as the bigots they are.

    Why do Repub’s seem to be the only ones using the primary season to stockpile ammo? And Dems wonder why they lose the war? Click, click, click. . .

  • Wow. The GOP shooting its collective tootsies off with spittle-flecked rants against “THEM”?

    Second verse same as first, anti-hispanic accent whole lot worse.

    The other problem for the GOP (because not all of their following minds being a bigot) is that people who walk around screaming “Dey tukur jobs!” want the companies that employ illegal immigrants punished. However, whenever that solution is put forward the GOPers mumble some excuses and run away.

    Even the most die-hard, brain dead, Confederate flag waving God’s Own Party red neck is starting to notice that his leaders consistently insincere unless it comes to protecting the rich. Another bad mark against the GOP.

  • Our local newspaper’s website allows anonymous comments to news stories. Most stories will rate perhaps a half-dozen comments, but two subjects draw hundreds of comments: Oral Roberts, and immigration.

    This year Oklahoma’s Republican-controlled legislature passed a strong anti-immigrant law that, among other things, makes it crime to feed, transport, or otherwise aid an illegal. The newspaper’s readers seem to love it. This spring, the same legislators will be pushing to make English the “official” language of Oklahoma. Never mind all the Native American languages that are still spoken here.

    So Morbo, I respectfully disagree. Nativist bigotry is still a powerful force in the USA, and it’s probably a winner. At least it’s a winner in benighted places like Oklahoma.

  • Okie, I’m curious. What was the reaction about Oral Roberts? I assume you’re talking of the step-down by Richard Roberts and his wife.

  • Other than the constant agitating of people like Steve King, I really have trouble understanding how this got to be a driving issue in Iowa of all places. Obviously our Iowa way of life is under serious threat: in the past 10 years we’ve gone from a statewide white/non-minority caucasian level of 97% all the way down to 94%. How will traditional anglo culture survive if 6 out of every 100 Iowans are of another race or culture?

    Yes there are a couple of unique “stress points” – in meatpacking towns like Perry, Marshalltown and Sioux City there are significant cultural issues and, more important, economy and jobs issues (these are places where the “is there job displacement? would non-immigrants do the jobs anyway? would they do them if the pay weren’t depressed by immigrant availability?” questions are more than just theoretical). But many of the strongly anti-immigrant places in Iowa have no immigrants to begin with.

    We are nowhere near a border, most of the state is well educated and went to college where they should have been exposed to diversity. . . I really just dont get it. If anyone else from an upper-midwestern state has an expanation, I’d love to hear it.

  • It can no longer be denied that Mexico is doing everything
    it can to create a ILLEGAL MEXICAN NATION and
    SHADOW GOVERNMENT within the borders of the USA!
    That is the DIFFERENCE!!
    No other country has ever tried a human wave invasion
    to take back the southwest !!
    Los Angeles-Don’t let this happen to your town!

  • Zeitgeist asks if anglo-natives would do the work that Mexican immigrants are doing if the wages weren’t depressed by immigrant workers. As some one employed in the food industry, I’d say yes. However, what is to stop meat producers from moving operations to Mexico if wages get too high in the US? I don’t buy the notion that immigrants are the sole factor holding down wages.

  • just to be clear, i am not saying i believe immigrants depress wages. i was listing the economic questions i often hear surrounding the immigration debate. personally, i think the economic issues in particular are much, much more complex and likely differ greatly by geographic location, existing demographics of the location, and nature of the business/work in question (i.e. a meatpacking plant can move to Mexico, but you can’t move 100 acres of strawberry fields out of California.)

  • Zeitgeist: a meatpacking plant can move to Mexico, but you can’t move 100 acres of strawberry fields out of California.

    I agree that the economic issues are complex and probably unique to each locale and operation. However, I’m not so sure that the strawberry field can’t be moved. As kid, seasonally, I ate tomatoes grown in California or Florida. I now eat tomatoes grown in Mexico all year long. For what its worth, Mexico grows lots of strawberries, although I have yet to see them in the US.

    Anymore, borders only impede the movement of labor. Capital transits with ease. Once the economics make it profitable to move, industry starts packing.

  • Phoebes: I would estimate that of the website comments about the mess at Oral Roberts University, more than half are hostile to all televangelist types, including the Roberts family. Of the rest, most say that ORU is a great place that Richard and his wife Lindsay have screwed it up. A very few say that we should “judge not lest we be judged,” and talk about forgiveness. I can’t remember anyone making a real defense of Richard.

    If you’re interested, you can go to the story below and read over 400 reader comments on a story about how God told Richard Roberts to resign as ORU’s president.

    http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=071129_1_A1_spanc14470

    If my link doesn’t work, go to tulsaworld.com and search for Richard Roberts. It’s fascinating reading.

  • If you think that nativist bigotry isn’t alive and well, check out comment #7. And it’s from a reader of The Carpetbagger Report!

  • I know this is a simplistic solution to the question of illegal immigration, but here it is:

    A company that hires an illegal will have the owner go to jail for 1 year and pay $100K for each illegal working for the company out of their own pocket, not the companys funds. In the case of a corporation, the CEO, CFO, head of HR and the VP in charge of the division that hired the illegal will get the same. There would be no trial for these management people once the workers were determined to be illegally here. Once jobs for illegals at substandard pay dry up the numbers will be greatly reduced.

    This would apply to all organizations. If a business needs temporary workers they can apply for and receive 6 month work permits for workers or they can sponser the people they need for the H-1 visa to allow them longer stays.

    This will force businesses to put the effort into checking on new hires and the loss of money and freedom will make the heads of corporations more responsive. Multinationals could be hit with extermely high tarrifs for doing the same.

  • I’m not so sure that the strawberry field can’t be moved. — AK Liberal, @11

    There is the problem of the land (as well as some others), in moving your operations out of US and into Mexico. You have to buy (or rent) your land there, while your own lies fallow. So your costs go up and make the whole enterprise less profitable.

    It might make sense to pay more, employ legals only (whoever’s willing – Hispanic or not) and go for a specialty. “Organic” label seems to be getting higher prices even in a very small town like ours. Long ago in UK — when UK had just joined EU and half of the population was livid about it — some of the produce was being sold as “made in UK” versus imported and priced accordingly. That might work here too, especially with the “rabids”.

  • Why must we always hear, or read, the bleeding heart dribble that the GOP’s anti-illegal immigration policy is against those poor Mexican people that just want to make a living and provide for their families? It is not about the Mexican’s; but it is about the illegal aliens idiot!!! I agree there are far more Mexicans than Egyptians involved, but it is a lot easier to walk through the desert of the southwest than swim the ocean. It is all about securing our country and adhering to the laws of the land, including those on immigration.

  • Apparently, English isn’t Jim S’ official language, because near as I can tell he didn’t read CB’s post at all, and certainly not for comprehension. . .

  • It would probably be amusing to follow Allen around a WalMart as he points out “illegals” (presumably any swarthy, brown-skinned people with very dark hair). I’m pretty sure his hit rate would be below 10%.

  • If you think that nativist bigotry isn’t alive and well, check out comment #7. And it’s from a reader of The Carpetbagger Report!

    Alive and well, sure. But that’s different from being a driving force in an election.

    There are enough nativist bigots to keep Lou Dobbs on the air and to post illiterate messages on comment threads. But the basic dynamic captured in the poll cited in the original post still holds

  • to demonize those that want to control our borders is really hard for me to fathom. illegal immigration, no matter the nationality, is an attack on our sovereignty. it is not about hating mexicans; its about making sure people enter legally. it is not a political party issue; it is a national security issue.

    until that is understood, this nation will continue to splinter.

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