They didn’t seem reluctant at the time

The president’s [tag]Memorial Day[/tag] remarks yesterday at Arlington National Cemetery were largely fine, but like Michael [tag]Froomkin[/tag], I found one sentence in particular troubling.

“In this place where valor sleeps, we are reminded why America has always gone to [tag]war[/tag] [tag]reluctantly[/tag], because we know the costs of war.”

Maybe Bush meant we used to go to war “reluctantly,” because 2002 and 2003 weren’t all that long ago, and the Bush administration was anything but reluctant in going to war at the time.

We are, after all, talking about an administration in which the [tag]Defense Secretary[/tag] asked his aides to start pulling together resources for an attack on Iraq just five hours after the Pentagon was hit on [tag]9/11[/tag].

Indeed, though the link is no longer available, on October 12, 2001, just a month after 9/11, the New York Times reported that then-Deputy Secretary of Defense [tag]Paul Wolfowitz[/tag] had begun crafting plans to remove [tag]Saddam Hussein[/tag] from power, despite the fact that the war in Afghanistan had started less than a week earlier. The article noted that Wolfowitz was leading a “tight-knit group of Pentagon officials and defense experts outside government” that would begin “mobilizing support” for a new Iraq war as part of the “next phase of the war against terrorism.” R. James Woolsey, former director of central intelligence and part of Wolfowitz’s group, acknowledged that an Iraqi invasion may not be popular once it occurs, but that Bush administration officials would be “willing to put up with criticism from European states and other governments.” (thanks to reader J.P. for the link)

The Bush gang was “[tag]reluctant[/tag]” to go to war? This wasn’t a war of choice? If only it were so.

Glad you pointed that out CB. I was fuming listening to the bits and blurbs that came out of that speech. And yet much of America listens and does not question these obvious contradictions.

One of the other “comments” from the weekend that really annoyed me was the media constantly stating that the country is “becoming increasingly divided” over the war in Iraq. Now, maybe I live on another planet, but it seems to me that all polls show the public increasingly coming to consensus on the fight in Iraq–they think it was wrong and not worth the cost and that the public was duped into it. What a media.

  • That was my first thought as well. Reluctant? Ha.

    And Rumsfeld’s commencement speech to VMI a few weeks ago wasn’t much better, but I haven’t found the transcript of it yet. Made me grind my teeth.

  • ….America has always gone to war reluctantly, because we know the costs of war.”

    Do can we know the real costs of this war?
    How can we trust anything the Bush liars say.
    Black op budgets, using contractors, planted news stories are efforts by a secretive administration to manipulate opinion by deceptive practices.

    Cloak and spin, sneak and dodge…

    Political CYA mis-information about the war …all in the name of National Security.

  • Oh, come on, 5 hours can be a long time. I’m sure the inner circle at the white house knows this from their time in the military, pinned down in a foxhole, waiting for air support or something. Oh, wait…that was those other guys, Gore and Kerry, they were the ones in Vietnam. Anyways, it takes Dubya around 5 hours to get through “My Pet Goat,” and that’s pretty good for such a longish read.

  • Every time the President gets away with telling stuff like this, it reveals the complete incompetence of the elite media who said the Downing Street Memo was a non-story. I really hope they’re ashamed.

  • Preaching to the choir… Until the media starts to dissect the lies in a speech such as this instead of passing them straight to the people the majority will be kept in the dark. Yeah, they’re pissed, they don’t trust him, etc – but they still don’t know the whole story. Talking about “Teflon” presidents the primary ingredient seems to be a supportive media. It is a sign of how badly Bush has screwed up that all the media whores can’t stop the bleeding. As stupid as it sounds, if you put someone on TV and have them say something, people tend to believe it. Especially if it is “news” – even though it has been shown that news shows are not required to tell the truth. In other words there is no penalty for lying.

  • Bush is indeed lying through his teeth when he suggests that he went to war reluctantly, but I’m surprised that you didn’t also object to his claim that he was aware of the costs of war.

    Back in September 2002, White House economic adviser Lawrence Lindsey gave the Wall Street Journal an upper estimate for the cost of the war as $100 billion to $200 billion. By way of Mitch Daniels, the White House immediately disputed this as “very, very high” way too high, and before long Lindsey was fired. Subsequently, in January 2003, Rumsfeld argued for an estimate of “something under $50 billion,” while also noting that Iraq’s oil may well contribute significantly to paying the bill.

    See http://www.motherjones.com/news/update/2003/09/we_544_01.html
    and http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11880954/

  • Thanks SlipKid! These were the two bits that particularly annoyed me:

    “Being a cynic is the easiest thing in the world. You can just sit back and heckle from the cheap seats while others serve, storm beaches, build nations, and meet their destinies”

    Under this definition, I think that would make Rumsfeld a cynic, right?

    “Remind people why you are proud of our country and our values — and why those values are worth fighting for.”

    But they weren’t worth HIM fighting for…

  • Regardless of poll numbers, American attitude towards the war in Iraq has always been a little bumpy. As evidence, I cite the constant defensiveness on Bush’s part when questioned about it early on. It seemed to me that he was and is always rationalizing his war, a result of his impatience with restraint.

    I am convinced that had we not invaded, right-wing radio would have grumbled for about a week, and the whole amnesiac country would have forgotten Iraq in no time. Bush would have gotten points for talking tough and many people would still be alive. But Bush was “for the war before he was against peace.”

    The media’s great mistake was swallowing the proposition that it was pointless to critique the war’s origins after we were in Iraq. Accountability was tossed out the window.

  • Excellent post and link Zeroman.

    Excellent definition of Chickenhawk.
    Chickenhawk–Those who risk nothing yet demand others to sacrifice everything.

  • Soon we should expect Bush to announce that “with great reservation” the US will “reluctantly” begin attacking targets in Iran, and declare that this is the “cost” for liberty/freedom/oil/Halliburton-Lockheed Martin stock.

  • Xeroman – thanks for that post. That was actually tremendous as was the reference to the Worcester fire therein. The concept being that the chief fireman knew when to say that he would not send in another fireman to die – the first were a risk, the last would have been a waste. Powerful stuff.

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