‘They have earned the right to show us how they will face the enemy’

The other day, I highlighted what I considered some of less-sane, more-unhinged reactions to the midterm elections from some of the right’s leading bloggers. In the interest of fair play, I think it’s only reasonable to be evenhanded and highlight another leading conservative blogger for his reasonable, even patriotic, take on the latest terrorist propoganda video.

As you may have heard, [tag]al Qaeda[/tag] released a video yesterday with a rambling diatribe from Abu Hamza [tag]al-Muhajir[/tag] about recent political developments in the U.S.

Al Qaeda in Iraq taunted President Bush on Friday to keep American troops in the country because the terrorist organization had not shed “enough of your blood,” bragging that it now has 12,000 fighters in the war-torn country.

The terror group also welcomed the U.S. Republican electoral defeat that led to the departure of Defense Secretary Donald H. [tag]Rumsfeld[/tag] and vowed to continue its fight until the White House is blown up. […]

In the tape, al-Muhajir praised the outcome of Tuesday’s elections in which [tag]Democrats[/tag] swept to power in the House and the Senate, in large part due to U.S. voter dissatisfaction over the handling of the war in Iraq.

“The American people have put their feet on the right path by … realizing their president’s betrayal in supporting Israel,” the terror leader said. “So they voted for something [tag]reasonable[/tag] in the last elections.” He did not explain his logic.

As far as al Qaeda is concerned, Bush’s decision to replace Rumsfeld is a big victory for terrorists, as is Americans’ decision to replace Republicans in Congress. For that matter, al-Muhajir insists the decision to leave troops in Iraq is also a big victory for terrorists, and one assumes, he’d say the same thing about withdrawing troops.

Captain’s Quarters, one of the top far-right blogs (which I happen to read daily), described the video as “the kind of stupid rant that makes radical Islamists and their sympathizers swoon with delight, but is filled with hyperbole and crude attempts at psychological warfare and propaganda.”

Captain Ed argued the terrorists are trying to “provoke Americans across the political spectrum” and it would be “a mistake to allow them to succeed.” It’s one of the more important points I’ve seen raised on a conservative blog in a long while.

I hope he won’t mind too much if I excerpt at length:

Radical Islamists want to divide Americans in order to defeat us. They will play on our differences, stoking the fires of resentment and generating more hatred between us than we have against our enemies. AQ understands that the only way they can possibly beat the US is to get us to grind to a halt with partisan warfare at home, paralyzing our ability to fight them on the battlefield and sapping our will to put them out of business. This video is transparently calculated to give enough ammunition to both sides of the political divide to do that job. Besides, if we take Abu Hamza at his word about the Democrats, then we have to take him at his word about Bush as well, and about our troops.

The partisan sniping has ceased to be germane. We’ve already had the election, and the Democrats are in charge — and they will be for two years no matter what. Obviously, we [on the right] will watch closely to ensure that they do not surrender to terrorism, but I’m not going to take Abu Hamza’s word that they will before their majority session even starts. They are Americans, and Americans put them in charge, and they have earned the right to show us how they will face the enemy now that they control the agenda. If they fail, I’ll be the first to castigate them for losing ground to the terrorists. However, I’m going to base that on their actions, and not on the word of a murderous thug who couldn’t care less whether their American victims are Democrats, Republicans, Greens, Libertarians, or LaRouchists.

The reality is that we cannot win the war on terror without the Democrats after these midterm elections. Rather than continue with antagonizing rhetoric, we’d better find ways to engage them rationally in this effort if we want to survive. I’m hoping we can find common ground with them now that they have the responsibility to govern. If we can’t, then let’s criticize them for their actual failures, and not get so intent on grasping at any way to attack them that we start becoming repeater stations for the ravings of genocidal lunatics.

Just to be clear for those of you who don’t read Captain Ed frequently, I’d be hard-pressed to describe him as a moderate. He’s an articulate, consistent conservative who disagrees with Democrats about practically everything. On national security issues, he’s looking ahead with skepticism.

But based on a post like this one, he’s also someone who wants America to succeed, and would rather see Dems execute an effective national security policy than score cheap political points. Captain Ed is willing to give us a chance, now that we’re in a position to affect public policy.

The Captain’s Quarters post has not yet received much in the way of favorable responses from other conservative blogs, which is a shame. If more on the right embraced this approach, finding “common ground” would be far less challenging.

Good for CQ. In the event that Osama had released another video right before the election, I thought the best response for Dems would have been to say, “I don’t give a flying fig what Osama thinks about our election. He’s a psychotic murderer, and he doesn’t get a vote. The American people will decide, and they don’t need al Qaeda telling them what or what not to do.”

We get so obsessed with what al Qaeda thinks of us, we forget that their statements generally have far less to do with us than they do with them. The best thing we can do is ignore them. And kill them.

  • We’ve already had the election, and the Democrats are in charge — and they will be for two years no matter what.

    I think the overall tone of this piece is good, but I want to quibble with the quote above. Bush must still set foreign policy. What has changed is that it now must be done in consultation with the Democrats. This should now be a two way street and a failure to deal with terrorism will not automatically be a Democratic failure. We should not allow ourselves to set up to take the fall in the event that BushCo continues to do things as it always has.

  • You have a bigger tent than me, CB. Or maybe I’m still in pre-11/7 mode, but arrogant comments like “Obviously, we [on the right] will watch closely to ensure that they do not surrender to terrorism” make me want to spit nails. I assume that the Captain has been hyper-critical of Bush lo these past 5 years since Bush is surrendering to terrorism by sharing its goals to destroy the ideals of our system with violations of rights to not be spyed on, disappeared or tortured.

    And his conflating our wins in congress to us being “in charge” and suddenly now responsible for the Republican mess is a false premise that the right will use in 2008 after Bush gets through blocking and distorting the Democratic efforts.

    I agree that the Al Qaida comms were designed for the stupid on both sides–their followers who are stupid enough to believe them and our citizens who are stupid enough get riled by them and try to smear the Dems with them. But I always feel I’m indulging the bigotry of low expectations when I laud these right-wing blogger clowns for actually being reasonable once in a while.

    I love the smell of ranting in the morning. Oops I better go brush my teeth. 🙂

  • Aye, that’s the most sense I’ve seen from that Quarter in a long while. Unsurprising to see flak about it from other rightist blogs, too.

    Methinks there’s gonna be quite a lot of shaking-out in the right-wing blogosphere, and if it produces just a little more sense about how to confront terrorism and al Qaeda, it’s all good.

  • Read without identifiers either of these quotes could very well apply to a certain domestic gang of thugs and murderers:

    …the kind of stupid rant that makes [them] and their sympathizers swoon with delight, but is filled with hyperbole and crude attempts at psychological warfare and propaganda.”

    “[They] want to divide Americans in order to defeat us. They will play on our differences, stoking the fires of resentment and generating more hatred between us than we have against our enemies.”

    Methinks the terrorists won (or at least cheated their way to victory) in 2000.

  • Good for the Captain. Let him watch—along with his cadre of bunglers—and we’ll show him how to successfuly prosecute a war.

    As for that “cadre,” one must remember that they all towed the Reich line, partook of the Reich sacraments, and gave unwavering/uncoerced allegiance to their precious Reich leadership. So pull up a chair, and grab the popcorn, you Reichster lemmings; the “MAIN EVENT” is about to begin….

  • So, a republican crosses the street without looking, gets run over by a truck, and a democrat is supposed to turn this into a positive experience? C’mon. This is just passing the buck so that you can blame someone else when they can’t do the impossible either.

    Invading Iraq was stupid and careless from the outset and, coincidentally, had nothing to do with fighting terrorists. The best that can be done is to come up with a less disasterous outcome in Iraq than those GWB’s course is leading toward, and return to the initial task of combatting terrorism. In the meantime, it would be helpful if Republicans would stop elevating al-Q to a status not based in reality but upon their own fears. Somehow, they missed the first rule — don’t panic — and became hysterical. Is there danger? Yes. Do we need to mortgage our future, sacrifice troops needlessly, curtail our rights, and lessen our standing in the world to meet the threat? No, because when we do those things, the “enemy” wins.

  • I think our problem is actually listening to republicans. Nothing good can come from listening to people who try to destroy our party. I have no problem with a civil discussion with them but most bloggers on the other side are simply pissing in the wind as far as Im concerned. Screw them. Make a plan and execute it without listenng to all the noise coming from those who want us to lose. That noise will hurt us, not help us. So ignore it, make a plan and execute it. Focus on what were going to do without noisy, useless distractions.

  • I wonder – if the terrorists release a video saying they want us to never, ever, do the chicken dance – will the right-wingers start chicken-dancing to show how strong they are in defying the terrorists?

    Kudos to Captain Ed for realizing that that “terrorists want Democrats to win and we just gave them what they wanted” junk for what it is.

  • Yep. I guess I’m still in “pre-11/7” mode, as well. With respect to the excerpt from CQtrs, count me among the ranks of the skeptics and “feeling condescended to” (pardon the bad grammar). Others have pointed out parts that pricked up their well-practiced ears, and it validated my own reaction. The particular phrase that got to me was:

    The reality is that we cannot win the war on terror without the Democrats after these midterm elections.

    I guess they felt they were going to be able to prevail “without Democrats” before the election? To me this demostrates an attitude that anyone who is not a Republican and avowed member of the right wing is at best some sort of nuisance that needs occassionally to be indulged and at worst something other than a full member of American society. Hey Ed, you needed us all along. You’re failure to understand this is part of the reason why you find yourself where you are today. Keep your condescension, pal; I’m full up.

  • It must never be forgotten (and for a lot of Republicans, it still needs to be learned) that Osama’s attack was designed to goad us into ill-advised reactions that would make it impossible to be a pro-western, moderate Arab. That we should have invaded one of the Islamic countries that he least approved of (i.e., Iraq) was icing on the cake for him. Also, we completely caved in with respect to our vaunted liberties and human rights. And the Republicans accuse us of giving the terrorists what they want.

  • I’m glad the Captain realized that the al Quaeda videos are little more than their version of Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter broadcasts that are designed to tell the world no matter what happens they are winning.

    But the Captain, and his idea that we have to “win” in Iraq at all costs is what will make us lose the bigger war. By being bogged down in Iraq and leaving Afghanistan to a smattering of US troops and NATO forces, a resurgent Taliban will once again take over the countryside and permit the real al Quaeda to resume their training camps with the benefit of opium poppy crops that will finance their operations with every gram sold in Amsterdam, Bern, Rome and New York.

    I agree with other posters that listening to the right wing only enables a group with a track record of bad opinions to continue to shape the future with their ill-conceived ideas.

  • Being condescended to by a tatentless moron is disgusting. I’d believe what he says here, were there a scintilla of evidence he had ever even once applied the same set of rules, of point of view, of anything, to his party over the past five years.

    No. He doesn’t get to define success for us. He doesn’t get to set the myth that we are “in charge” so that we can be blamed for two years of continued lack of progress and success under the leadership of Incompetent George come 2008.

    Since I don’t see him pushing up daisies, he doesn’t qualify as a “good Republican” in my book.

    Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.

  • I never could understand why we’re expected to pay any attention to the AlQaeda tapes, whatever they spout. I hear about them and start looking through the Merchant of Venice for that quote about “Mr Bennerdict, nobody pays you any mind”. Not that I’ve ever been able to find it 🙂

    Let’s risk orange…

  • Wow I will give up props to CQ for realizing the propoganda for what it is and for giving the DEMS until at least January 21st (LOL) before he starts with his crticisms

    I am sure the Rove wing of the party does not appreciate his candor but he will have ample opportunity to make up for it in the next 2 years

  • It does not take the gift of prophecy to predict that Rumsfeld’s successor, Robert Gates, will almost certainly assent to some form of an American troop withdrawal from Iraq. The Republican Party now understands that if the war in Iraq continues as it is into 2008, the GOP will be murdered at the polls, and the Democratic nominee (whoever he or she is) would most certainly win the White House. In other words, President Bush and Republicans are about to engage in the biggest “cut and run” strategy you have ever seen.

  • The Democrats now have to show they are a party of constructive ideas and able to legislate for the benefit of the nation and all of its citizens–not just a select few. Their leaders must be caring, act responsibly, and be responsive to the needs of the nation and its citizens. If they do so, in 2008, the nation would elect a Democratic president–whether he or she– of the United States with a clear mandate by its citizens and with restored respect by the world’s leaders and citizenry.

  • Well, “Capt. Ed” and his ilk better buckle up, because the latest refugee from Iran/Contra now in the administration via Poppy’s network, Bob Gates, is going to orchestrate a “cut-and-run” like you’ve never seen before. He and the generals are going to cobble together some sort of Kissingerian “peace with honour” construct that will allow removal of the US military, while declaring a “victory for the Iraqi people”, i.e., the Shiite militias. A no-fly zone will be created over the Kurdish north, and sizable US Special Forces units will be “forward-based” in Kuwait, Jordan, etc., on call for “democratisation duty” as the new team in Washington deems necessary for the region. The “Green Zone” and US Embassy will remain a Berlin-like sanitised enclave, bursting with intelligence-gathering hardware and black ops personnel, a trade-off as part of troop withdrawal as part of the “peace-with-honour” settlement. This condition will last until US elections in 2008, at which time either relations with Iraq will be “normalised”, or broken, depending upon Iranian influence within Iraq by early 2009. The absolute worst-case scenario envisioned by the Poppy/ISG auxiliary government is a Saigon ’75, with Hueys lifting off the Green Zone packed with top brass, Embassy people, Iraqi stooges, and anyone else who managed to grab a handhold on the landing gear struts, while mortar rounds, RPGs, and small artillery lay waste to the erstwhile nerve centre of US neo-imperialism in Iraq. Which will certainly happen as God made little green apples should either “stay-the-course” or “one-final-push” so-called strategies prevail.

  • Thanks to CB for reading Captain Ed. CB is not being horrendously kind for pointing out the correctness here, IMO.
    I would shoot this post to my wing paternal elder nut relative if I thought he could get past some of the comments here.

    Aside, maybe.. Neil Young’s “Star of Bethlehem” I wouldn’t link a lyric site here or anywhere. If you have Stars and Bars or Decade, give it a listen. Who’s the star?

  • Thanks for the artillery:
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    “As far as al Qaeda is concerned, Bush’s decision to replace Rumsfeld is a big victory for terrorists, as is Americans’ decision to replace Republicans in Congress. For that matter, al-Muhajir insists the decision to leave troops in Iraq is also a big victory for terrorists, and one assumes, he’d say the same thing about withdrawing troops.”
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    Good work, Mr. and Mrs. Carpet.
    /
    This will keep the dog’s chain a little shorter.
    /

  • The Executive branch is completely out of control.

    The AQ are fleas compared to the revelations in DSM when added to the “coincidences” surrounding the Katrina attack on America.

    We’d better keep this a two-pronged attack, and whether it “seems” partisan or not, we need to find out what/who/how the executive branch works and if we find that we’ve been manipulated by some kind of organized crime syndicate, it may not even be necessary to continue the other prong.

    Seriously. And I think everyone knows this. The Dems BASE wanted impeachment. If the Dems care more about wooing Republican support (only necessary because WE don’t speak up and because the MEDIA is certainly not liberal), they don’t deserve their base.

    So, whether it appears to be partisan or not (I mean a fair trial may look like a stacked jury to a mob boss, eh?) the first order of business is to make sure democracy works at home.

    If I have lost anyone here, let me explain.

    Florida 2000.
    Ohio 2004.

    And a surprising but welcome hairpin turn in ole Virginny.

    Look. If we don’t have democracy nobody will.

    Our military machine and the “intelligence” agencies (both are in the executive branch) even tortures and smuggles drugs. Y/N? _____

    If your answer is Y, then it doesn’t matter which party is which. The gettysburg address says it all and the only ones that stand to be upset in the end are the LIARS.

    Luv ya, Carpetbaggers! Keep your “I” on the ball though.

  • Twenty years from now we’ll be hearing from crusty rednecks with a gunrack in their bathroom that, “If it hadn’t been for those cowardly Democrats we would have won that war in Iraq. Their politicians wouldn’t let us win.”

  • As much as the Capt. drives me nuts a lot of times, I do find him one of the more readable righties.

    And, quite frankly, he’s correct in some ways — we have GOT to find a way to work together to solve the mess in Iraq. Enough with playing politics with service member’s lives, enough with putting ideology above military strategy, and enough with the constant damn sniping within our country.

    Now, this doesn’t mean we have to all hold hands and sing spirituals around a campfire. It just means we have to find an actual winning strategy and execute it together.

    Just my $.02 …

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