They know no limits

Yesterday, we talked about prominent far-right conservative writers who hoped to exploit the [tag]thwarted[/tag] [tag]hijacking[/tag] [tag]plot[/tag] for political gain, even though the plot did nothing to bolster their argument. Of course, it’s not just writers — the [tag]Bush[/tag] [tag]White House[/tag] and [tag]GOP[/tag] officials kicked their exploitation machine into high gear.

“Weeks before [tag]September 11th[/tag], this is going to [tag]play big[/tag],” said another White House official, who also spoke on condition of not being named, adding that some [tag]Democratic[/tag] candidates won’t “look as appealing” under the circumstances.

Just as bad, Jesse Lee noted that the [tag]RNC[/tag], just a few hours after the nation learned of the terrorist plot, sent out a fundraising email penned by [tag]Rudy Giuliani[/tag] saying, “In the middle of a [tag]war on terror[/tag], we need to remain focused on furthering [tag]Republican[/tag] ideas more than ever before… Please make your commitment felt with a financial contribution for $500, $250, $100, $50, $35 or $25 to the Republican National Committee today.”

It’s possible that the Giuliani [tag]fundraising[/tag] pitch was scheduled to go out yesterday afternoon anyway, and would have been sent regardless of the circumstances. But as Hunter argued, “maybe the Republicans might have cancelled the message and waited, oh, at least a day or two or so before using the [tag]terrorism[/tag] plot as a damn fundraising tool?”

That would require some sense of decency. We’re well past that point now.

It became trendy in evangelical youth circles a few years ago to ask “WWJD?” for “what would Jesus do?” I frequently follow a similar route but ask myself “WWRD?” or “what would Rove do?”

In this case, imagine the response Karl Rove would orchestrate if, say, Howard Dean had penned a fundraising letter that sought to raise money off a terrorist threat the same day a top-level Democratic official salivated over the notion that a thwarted plot to kill hundreds would “play big” in a campaign context.

What would the response be? The demands for a formal apology would be overwhelming. The right would insist that Dean resign, if not put his head on a platter. Ken Mehlman would deliver every speech for six months with the same anecdote, “Republicans believe in fighting a war on terror; Democrats believe in using it as a fundraising gimmick.”

Every prominent Democratic official in the country would face a flurry of questions about whether they’re willing to denounce such shameless political exploitation, and most of them would. The story would dominate the cable networks, talk radio, and the blogs. The blowback would be almost literally crushing. Don’t believe me? Consider the reaction to a mild DCCC web video that featured a brief still image of a casket returning from Iraq. It was completely inoffensive — but the right milked it for a week and got several Dem candidates to publicly denounce the video.

This is not to say Dems are sitting back and accepting the GOP’s callous nonsense; they’re not. But when we hear complaints about Dems bringing a knife to a gunfight, this is exactly what the complaints are referring to.

Yep, CB, I think you have it right. The Democratic Party is so whipped it’s just pathetic.

Why they can’t just come out and say that the British response to these plotters prove that everything Cheney has said is wrong, and that error has costs America hundreds of billions of dollars, thousands of American and tens of thousands of Iraqi lives, more hundreds of thousands maimed, American prestige and lost us all of America’s good will from 9/11, I don’t know.

Where is the Democrat with some spine, for God’s sake. Probably not in Washington.

  • See also the headline from the NYT- “Arrests Bolster G.O.P. as Election Nears”.

    And some people had the nerve in yesterday’s discussion to call the rest of us cynics…

    Folks, it aint paranoia when They really are out to get you!

  • Where the heck is Obama?

    I’m not ashamed that Dems have more class (I doubt any of the commenters here really would want Dems to become Rovian bastards), but a little spine would be nice.

    Where are they? Well, remember how Dems pulled support from Hackett after begging him to run? They protect their own. That’s why Nomentum losing is the start of something important: letting the DINO’s know that they will lnot be supported for abandoning this country to the locusts Republicants.

  • Democrats with spine? The only ones I can think of have been dead for nearly forty years or more.

    Think of the “terrorists” as criminals, rather than evil personified; it helps provide perspective. Now, if the criminals have all been rounded up and the plot foiled (through good British police work rather than American incantations), why are we suddenly subjecting millions of people to extreme searches and idiotic delays?

    Try Fear and Loathing. It’s literally the ONLY thing the GOP has to offer. So far, in the absence of Democratic spine, it seems to be working. Overtime.

  • So, clearly, we all know what we are up against this fall. Since it is clear to us, and we are practically screaming to the Democrats to get their act together and unite around a more forceful message, and to grow a collective spine, why do you think they still cower and run away like mice once the bullies try these tactics? We’ve made the arguments crystal clear to anyone who wants to debate these morons, and yet, they always back down. Why is that? I mean, it isnt hard to defend yourself from charges of being soft on terrorism, and there are so many ways you can say that you’ll do an even better job. For example, why not come out publicly and say we are going to spend MORE than the current administration on policing and intelligence (within the law) so that we can continue to do the few things that are successful against threats? And we are going to spend MORE than the current administration on beefing up security at ports, nuculer (haha) sites, etc, so that we are BETTER protected at home. Is it that hard to say? If you put together a list of those types of actions, then you can legitimately say that we are also going to pursue a foreign policy that addresses the the causes of terrorism, rather than blindly pursue a failed policy which just creates more threats. I just dont understand why noone is saying these things.

  • castor

    to the times’s credit, their lead editorial lashed cheney and lieberman for using the supposed plot in a coordinating campaign pitch.

    the republicans might get a little bump from the usual chickenshit republicans, but now the msm is actually following the real story: how the republicans are baldly using the alleged threat for their own gain. that won’t help them in the long run.

    aym

  • It’s both sad and infuriating when I’m given a choice of a Right Wing party that I share little in common with but I see have no trouble banding together to play rounds of “dirty hardball”, or a party with whom I do strongly identify with stumbling around like chickens without heads unwilling to play the same nasty games that their political counterparts are engaging in.

    The time for niceities is long over. Our reps need to get out there and denounce anyone in the Republican party who uses this situation to their advantage. And if another attack is foiled, they need to do exactly what their advesaries are doing now, and jump on it and make a claim of their own.

    I never thought I would say something as ludicrous as this, but for God’s sake, they’re politicians — aren’t they supposed to be playing dirty anyway?

    If our Democratic leaders don’t start pushing back harder than they have been, they will absolutely deserve to lose their golden opportunity to regain seats this Fall. And personally, I won’t want to hear a damn bit of crying about it.

  • aym- I wasn’t bashing the Times. Actually, the article is very well-written and worth a read.

    And I only hope that people wisen up enough. Unfortunately, they have a good history of not doing that.

    As for me, I am just waiting for the October surprise… (bets, anyone?)

  • The small but growing piece of me that is not totally jaded and cynical is telling me that the people see through this bull. Americans have spent over a decade listening to the GOP say one thing and do the other. They saw McCain attacked as soft eventhought everyone knew he was a war hero. They watched John Kerry endure swiftboating. They saw New Orleans washed away. They hear about bombings in Bagdad and dead soldiers. The reality of the GOP policies is so far from the rhetoric of their talking points that the dissonance is too much to ignore forever.

    Dems need to call them out on this BS of course but the real plan should be to take the GOP policies one ant a time and hold them up to the light. Ask them to defend their positions and ask them to demonstrate the relationship between their words and their deeds.

  • This is not quite as political but I think it is related. During the daily show last night I saw a Sierra Mist ad. The general premise is that a guy walks through an airport checkpoint with a bottle of Soda and the security guards trick the passenger out of it so they can enjoy the delicious soda. There is another one involving an X-ray machine, same idea.

    You can see them both on: http://www.sierramist.com/
    Go to TV Ads. They are called “Wand” and “X-ray”

    My question is will Pepsico stop showing these commercials? Will the public demand Sierra Mist demonstrate good taste (sorry, bad pun). How is this different from taking soda away from air travelers to instill fear in them and get re-elected?

  • I wish I could lose some of my cynicism like you MNProgressive, but it’s hard.

    One of the things I often ask is I wonder how many people who voted for Bush in the last election would stand by that vote today. I suspect, while some would say they would change it given the chance, there’s many more that would say they would proudly stand by their Bush Vote.

    Why? Because even if they don’t agree with his handling of Iraq, even if they’re angry at higher taxes for the poor and lower for the rich, even if they watched in horror at the bungling of New Orleans — Bush still stands for their ‘traditional family values.’ He’s against abortion, gay marriage, etc. Not like those ‘terrible godless’ Democrats who want to turn want to turn this country into another Sodom and Ghamorra (sp?)

    Bottom line is Bush could probably walk into a Red state, admit he’s been misleading everyone about everything and sending tons of soldiers to their deaths, but then take them by the hand and walk into a church and he’d be led right up to the first pew. That’s why my cynicism remains firmly intact.

  • “[Bush could] take them by the hand and walk into a church and he’d be led right up to the first pew.” – Tom L

    I don’t think Boy George II actually goes to church. He might be beating Ronald Reagan’s record of about nine real Sunday masses, but not by much.

    Probably interfers with his exercise and nap schedule. Besides, who knows what the pastor might say. Can’t allow Boy George II’s little ears to burn with shame because someone points out that he is a pointless mass murderer.

  • CB: I agree. But I am far more worried about what I read on on the op-ed pages of the WaPo from Gingrich and Krauthammer. There is some serious talk out there about attacking Iran and Korea. I don’t think I am deluded by conspiratorial dot connecting to consider that events are lining up for the really big show here. When your policies are failing, go for more. There is a root to that rot somewhere.

  • This aimless lack of focus and vigor by the Dems is what makes me sceptical when I read of a tsunami of dissatisfaction for RepubCo and ShrubCo and a resurgence of interest in giving Dems a chance for redemption. Maybe. But you gotta close the sale and I just don’t see any particular skill or serious intention by Dems on that front. This all seems like some bad T.V. show where the Dems are waiting patiently out in the backlot for their lines to be handed to them so they’ll know what to say and with how much feeling. In the meantime, would they mind running down the street for some coffee and donuts?

  • Just to show I can in fact document;

    From TPM Cafe an assertion that Boy George II is not a regular church goer and particularly not to evangelical churchs.

    From Look Smart comments from the Pastor of the Espicopalian Church Boy George II does occasionially attend.

    I have to wonder, if Boy George II was a serious Evangelical and a regular church attendee, would that change his policies. After all, learning about the North-West Hawaiian Islands made him create a national monument to protect them. Do we just need to get him into the right venues away from his handlers to make him human?

  • There is some serious talk out there about attacking Iran and Korea. – lou

    It’s not serious talk. It’s a forehead pounding, groin clutching, pants wetting dance of desperation for war whenever, wherever and oh please dear god however war can be bought to pass.

    I think it was a Fresh Air interview the other day in which Thomas Ricks of the Washington Post compared Shruby to Jerry Rubin as being a radical who wanted to basically destroy everything and then “groove on the rubble” to see what might rise from the ashes.

    The neo-cons see the birth pangs of a neo-world as necessitating a lot of rubble. They’re as close as they’ve ever been to seeing the fruits of creative destruction. Expect their dance to become more animated and their pants to get wetter. What they want is what they see. Just more please.

  • Why haven’t we been concentrating on chasing down Al Qaeda, as opposed to dismissing Bin Laden and opting for an unnecessary and incompetently managed war in Iraq? Republicans are unwilling to acknowledge their mess, let alone clean it up, so vote all of them out of office.

    The Republican goal of “fighting the terrorists in Iraq” obviously hasn’t worked, but they won’t change course. We need to elect Democrats to give us a fighting chance.

    This plot seems to have been prevented by good police work, not by the Repubicans’ path of torture, military force, and violating the constitution. The 9/11 attack could have been caught by better police work, but Bush and his administration chose to downplay the threat, ignored clear warnings, and failed to provide enough domestic security. Air cargo security is almost nonexistent, our ports check almost none of the incoming cargo, and our airport security wouldn’t have picked up the liquid explosives (despite the fact that Al Qaeda has already tried this before). The whole Bush team has to go.

    Republicans have deliberately created a climate of polarization and divisiness and think first and foremost of how they can exploit national tragedies for their own political gain. They’ve all got to go, even the better ones.

  • Let’s parse this.

    From the NYT referenced above:

    Officials in both parties said they viewed the arrests as critical in determining how they would approach the fall campaign, with Republicans saying it could be a turning point in a year in which they have been on the defensive over the war in Iraq and other issues.

    So, the Democrat sound-bite, (holding this GOP policy up to the light): What has the war in Iraq got to do with protecting us from terrorists?

    The developments played neatly into the White House-led effort, after Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, Democrat of Connecticut, lost on Tuesday to an antiwar primary challenger, to remind voters of the threats facing the nation and to cast Democrats as timid on national defense.

    Democrat: No, we’re timid on creating the hostility that requires such astronomical levels of national defense.

    The arrests were announced less than 24 hours after Vice President Dick Cheney and other Republican officials suggested that Mr. Lieberman’s defeat reflected the world view of a Democratic Party that was not prepared to lead the nation in such dangerous times.

    Democrat: To lead the nation? Which way — further in, or out?

    Mr. Cheney, who a spokesman said had been kept abreast of the investigation, suggested in his remarks Wednesday that the outcome of a Democratic primary in Connecticut could embolden “Al Qaeda types.”

    Democrat: ..which abusing them in every conceivable way isn’t doing?

    Republicans, facing tough midterm elections — and with a history, as Democrats noted, of spotlighting terrorist threats in election seasons — used the news from England to try to pound home their message that they were doing everything possible to keep the nation safe.

    Democrat: Which is not enough since it plays second fiddle to keeping yourselves in power and fleecing the masses.

    Mr. Bush strode off Air Force One to television cameras to declare that the United States was safer from terrorist attacks than it was before Sept. 11, 2001, but remained in danger.

    Democrat: Sure, thanks to British and Pakistani intelligence agencies.

    Ok, I don’t need to teach my granny to suck eggs.

    It’s not difficult, it just needs exposure. The media, unfortunately, dish out the knives, or guns.

  • What the Repugs have that Dems need is training. They narrow their message down to three-word sound-bites then blast away relentlessly for days months years. Dems don’t need to, and shouldn’t, copy their style and ethos (which is repugnant), but they’d do well with some of their PR training. And discipline. And economy.

  • I’ve been hearing claims since yesterday about the terrorists planning to detonate above major US cities. I heard on local news radio this morning that the British intelligence said that was bunk. They had a soundbyte from one of those intelligence officers stating they would likely have detonated over water to hide evidence of the bomb and that there was no evidence that would lead to the US officials claims.

    I can’t find any information about this other than what I heard on the radio, unfortunately, but it goes a long way to proving the case that the goons in charge are trying to create an even bigger scare and use it for political means.

    Anyone have a link?

  • doubtful,

    CNN is reporting the story as “[the terrorists ] planned to detonate over the Atlantic Ocean.”

    regards
    t

  • CNN is reporting the story as “[the terrorists ] planned to detonate over the Atlantic Ocean.”

    Well, considering how ignorant Americans make themselves, we would probably start thinking there were skymonsters snatching the planes out of the sky.

    What a cleaver plan!

  • No one seems to be bringing up the little detail that the unit hunting for bin Laden was disbanded about a year ago. Presumably because the money was needed for Iraq.

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