This just in: Republicans win 2008 presidential election

August 6, 2005

Guest Post by Morbo

Everybody’s favorite right-wing, Messiah-owned newspaper, The Washington Times, gleefully reported this week that the Republican Party will hold the White House in 2008.

The polls have spoken. Several have been taken recently, and all show Sens. John F. Kerry and Hillary Clinton losing to former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani or Sen. John McCain.

It’s good to get that out of the way, huh?

There is one tiny problem with The Times’ scenario, however: Neither Giuliani nor McCain will be the GOP’s nominee in 2008. The pro-choice, pro-gay rights Giuliani, after being kicked out of his house by his wife for openly consorting with his mistress, moved in with two gay friends and their little dog. (A hilarious editorial cartoon at the time focused on Giuliani’s obsession with “immoral” art in city museums. It showed Giuliani saying, “This is not the kind of art I want to see when I go to the museum with my mistress.”)

Anyway, I’m looking forward to hearing Giuliani explain all of this in the red states. McCain is also despised by the Religious Right, which is still smarting over his attacks on them during the 2000 primaries. Let me fill The Times in on this fact about the Republican Party in 2005: No one gets the presidential nod without the blessing of the Religious Right.

Of course we also have no idea who the Democratic nominee will be. I don’t doubt that Kerry and Clinton are interested, but so is Iowa Gov. Tim Vilsak, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, Gen. Wesley Clark, former North Carolina senator John Edwards and others. And need I point out that a poll three years out is of little value.

It’s going to be a wide-open field on both sides. Somehow, I have the feeling that the ’08 race is going to be a lot more interesting than The Times would have us believe.

I think Hilary is the only serious Dem contender who’s actually making the right moves. Her more pragmatic approach to abortion (it sucks, but it needs to be legal), getting on the right committees (she serves on the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee; the Environment and Public Works Committee; the Special Committee on Aging; and she is the first New Yorker ever to serve on the Senate Armed Services Committee), speaking out on international issues, and generally ignoring GOP BS and scaring them silly.

As noted in the Atlantic Monthly:

“It is a long way to the New Hampshire Primary, but as of today, there is no obstacle in her way.”

  • I think Hilary is the only serious Dem contender who’s actually making the right moves.

    Moves, yes? Electable, no. Giuliani and McCain can win the country but not the primaries and Clinton can win the primaries but not the country.

  • All the Washington Times was pointing out is that whomever manages to win the Republican primary will win by what they like to call the “Diebold Margin.”

    I honestly think that until serious vote reform happens, the Democrats will be hard pressed to win again. If their base has to wait in line for 12 hours to vote on computers manufactured and coded by hard core Republican supporters with no paper trail, than what is motivating them to vote?

    And if you can’t motivate your base, you lose.

  • They lost in 2000, despite a lousy Democratic candidate, a populace receptive to change after eight years of an ethically challenged Democratic White House, a crashing stock market, & a slowing economy. They only barely won in 2004, despite a lousy Democratic candidate, a live, shooting war, a recovering economy, and the advantages of incumbency. And now they think the presidency belongs to them. The wake up call is coming, my friends, the wake up call is coming.

    (Unless the Dems nominate Hilary, that is. Then it’s eight more years of Frist or whoever.)

  • There’s no way around it. The polls, as premature as
    they are, and as unrealistic as they are in terms of
    the Republican candidates (though I don’t personally
    write off McCain if he’s interested), are devastating news.
    Absolutely devastating.

    We are not getting anywhere. All hell has come down
    on this administration and the American people
    still turn their backs on the Democrats. Something
    is terrribly, terribly wrong. The president is tanking
    in the polls, the people have turned against him,
    but they don’t want anything to do with a Democrat.

    The Democrats need an agenda. They don’t have
    one. They stand in the shadow of Bush’s policies.
    They haven’t the guts to put forth any ideas like
    national health insurance, a real energy bill, a
    real jobs program, living wages for all, a plan to
    get out of Iraq (although they are probably thinking
    this won’t still be an issue in 2008), tax reform that
    favors the middle and lower classes, etc. etc. etc.
    ad nauseum. How can they expect to resonate
    with the public when all they do is carp and tweak
    the president’s policies which the people have
    had enough of?

    And they ain’t gonna do it. They’re gonna run
    Republican Lite and get whipped again.

  • Rudy is a powerful Republican but his ideaology is not in-line with mainstream Republican thought. McCain, however, has been the uniter Bush hasn’t and, despite the religious right, he’ll win the nomination hands down since maybe America wants a President with an Attitude not a polished lawyer ala Hillary. Hillary will fail in one respect: she’s not who she says she is. She’s a devout liberal. She can’t hide it nor can she join a few committees and win friends. And, she has baggage. Not Billy, but her own with the Rose law firm scandal and the death of her supposed lover. Not to mention the wild rumours she’s a closet lesbian. Rudy will spring that in ole’ fashioned New Yorker style in her 2006 race. Rudy would be smart to try and take her on in 2006 before McCain gets the upper hand. However, McCain, my projected winner, already is seen as the lone voice of reason in the Congress by everyone. If he chose former NJ Gov. Christine Todd Whitman as his running mate, the sparkle of a female in the WH is over.

  • I live in Ohio,and Diebold is just part of the problem here.The corruption in this state runs deep,from Taft on down including the wonderful Mr. Blackwell. He makes Harris look like a girl scout.Democrats have the best chance they have had in a long time if they don`t blow it.I just hope this scandal blows up about the same time the Plame case does.The thought of all these right-wing do-gooders running like rats does my heart good.

  • It’s not who votes or how they vote, but it’s who counts the votes and the outcome they will permit.

    Do you think the right-wingers would ever agree to accept unverifiable vote counts made by companies owned and operated by liberal democrats?

    I can’t believe they would be willing to accept us saying, “Hey, our guy won! Get over it!”

    Our freedoms are all at risk if we cannot trust our electoral process. If we don’t do something to prevent votes being shifted, miscounted and otherwise stolen, our democracy is in grave danger!

  • Well, I’m glad to finally see a number of people getting to the point about fixing the electoral system before strategizing. Now how do we get the Dem leadership to jump all over this like a dog with a bone and not let go til it’s fixed?

  • With the CIA scandal now approaching Veep Dick Cheney’s office, the huge rumor is that Sec. of State Condi Rice will assume the Veep role for the 2008 race against Hillary. It isn’t any surprize that Condi wants the Presidency when her dad told her as a kid in Alabama, “You might not be able to eat a burger at Woolsworth, but you can be President!” The horrible thing for Democrats is that she’s black. Imagine the “racist” party, as dim-witted Dems surmize, getting a smart, cunning, and very Presidential Afican-American women sitting in her former boss’s chair as the leader of the free world.

    ODDs for Nominations Wins:

    Republicans
    McCain – 3-1
    Condi – 5-1 (was 10-1)
    Rudy – 12-1
    DeLay (LOL) 6,999,999-1

    Democrats
    Hillary – 3-1
    Edwards – 8-1
    Kerry – 12-1
    Reid – (LOL) 99-1

    If Condi takes on McCain/Rudy as her Veep, they can do the dirty work by trashing Hillary’s scandals and win by a lanslide.

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    Chairwoman
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