This Week in God

First up from the God machine this week is an update on a report from February on the uncomfortable intersection of religion and the U.S. military. One soldier who is not religious has faced considerable pressure from those who are.

When Specialist Jeremy Hall held a meeting last July for atheists and freethinkers at Camp Speicher in Iraq, he was excited, he said, to see an officer attending.

But minutes into the talk, the officer, Maj. Freddy J. Welborn, began to berate Specialist Hall and another soldier about atheism, Specialist Hall wrote in a sworn statement. “People like you are not holding up the Constitution and are going against what the founding fathers, who were Christians, wanted for America!” Major Welborn said, according to the statement.

Major Welborn told the soldiers he might bar them from re-enlistment and bring charges against them, according to the statement.

Last month, Specialist Hall and the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, an advocacy group, filed suit in federal court in Kansas, alleging that Specialist Hall’s right to be free from state endorsement of religion under the First Amendment had been violated and that he had faced retaliation for his views. In November, he was sent home early from Iraq because of threats from fellow soldiers.

Hall’s experience is not at all unusual. Mikey Weinstein, a former Air Force lawyer who created the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, has documented about 6,000 incidents like these.

As the NYT noted, “Controversies have continued to flare, largely over tactics used by evangelicals to promote their faith. Perhaps the most high-profile incident involved seven officers, including four generals, who appeared, in uniform and in violation of military regulations, in a 2006 fund-raising video for the Christian Embassy, an evangelical Bible study group.”

Maybe now would be a good time for the Pentagon to revisit its religion guidelines?

Also from the God Machine this week, yesterday was apparently quite an interesting faith-based day in Birmingham, Alabama.

Mayor Larry Langford declared Friday as “It’s Time to Pray Day” in Birmingham and will mark the event with a prayer service at Boutwell Auditorium.

Langford made the proclamation Tuesday during the City Council meeting. “We’re going to pray for a change in this city,” he said.

During the service, participants will be given sackcloth to wear and ashes to put on their skin. The practice is mentioned in the Bible of the Bible as an act of repentance and humility.

Langford ordered 2,000 of the sacks.

“Even if you get upset, we’re still going to have it,” Langford said. “This city needs to humble itself.”

It’s as if the notion of church-state separation doesn’t exist at all.

And slightly further south, state lawmakers in Florida are considering a faith-based license plate for residents.

Florida drivers can order more than 100 specialty license plates celebrating everything from manatees to the Miami Heat, but one now under consideration would be the first in the nation to explicitly promote a specific religion.

The Florida Legislature is considering a specialty plate with a design that includes a Christian cross, a stained-glass window and the words “I Believe.”

Rep. Edward Bullard, the plate’s sponsor, said people who “believe in their college or university” or “believe in their football team” already have license plates they can buy. The new design is a chance for others to put a tag on their cars with “something they believe in,” he said.

If the plate is approved, Florida would become the first state to have a license plate featuring a religious symbol that’s not part of a college logo. Approval would almost certainly face a court challenge.

The problem with the state manufacturing the plate is that it “sends a message that Florida is essentially a Christian state” and, second, gives the “appearance that the state is endorsing a particular religious preference,” said Howard Simon, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida.

Bullard, the plate’s sponsor, initially argued that his proposal is just about allowing Floridians to express themselves, though he later acknowledged that if atheists came up with an “I Don’t Believe” plate he would probably oppose it.

How open minded of him.

Animals, bow down to gods; Human Beings, do not.

  • CB: “Maybe now would be a good time for the Pentagon to revisit its religion guidelines?”

    Absolutely!

    CB, you didn’t mention Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s interview on Bill Moyers last night. Wow, I’m impressed; the man is brilliant and explains everything so well. I learned a bunch.

    On the one hand, I’m extremely po’ed at the asshats who put out the incendiary out-of-context soundbite videos turning Wright into the “scary black man”. On the other hand, the whole blow up gave Obama a platform to give his excellent speech on race (getting a positive out of a negative, something I had thought about, and Wright also mentioned). And this whole thing has hopefully opened the door to more discussion about race relations in America, something most of us don’t really want to talk about.

    Apparently Rev. Wright will also be speaking at the Press Club this next week.

  • Ten Bears, I keep reading this phrase “animals bow down to gods”. Sorry, I don’t get it. Care to explain?

  • In the Birmingham quote, shouldn’t it say “… in the Bible of the Bible for the Bible” ?
    Hmm….. Or should it??????? (insert scary fanfare here.)

  • I take it to mean something along the lines of ‘belief in God is less evolved than atheism’ which is a matter of opinion. (I’m a ~militant~ agnostic myself – which means I don’t know and NEITHER DO YOU! …)
    It’s not the religious beliefs of these evangelicals in the military that’s the problem, it’s their apparent interpretation of what the Constitution says about religion which is scary.

  • Yeah, those Bible thumpers in the Army. I don’t miss them one bit.

    “Major Welborn told the soldiers he might bar them from re-enlistment and bring charges against them, according to the statement.”

    Barred from re-enlisting? For being an atheist? I’m sure the re-enlistment NCO for their company will like that one, considering how the Army is already running out of warm bodies to fill the ranks.

    And charged with what? Heresy? It’s been a few years, but I don’t recall ever seeing that in the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

  • @ #6: I’m a ~militant~ agnostic myself – which means I don’t know and NEITHER DO YOU!

    Are you militantly agnostic about the existence of tiny invisible dragons under your bed? After all, I don’t know and NEITHER DO YOU!

    I used to be a militant agnostic myself, actually. Turns out it was just a phrase I used in order to keep from calling myself an atheist.

  • Tin foil hat time….

    Major Welborn told the soldiers he might bar them from re-enlistment and bring charges against them, according to the statement.

    First off, I am sure there are many who would welcome being barred from re-enlisting. Weren’t it for losing what is left of their GI benefits, I can’t help but wonder how many might follow that same path.

    As to bringing charges, I am starting to wonder when they will tap the enormous prison population and start shipping them off to war. Hey, endless war requires endless people, doesn’t it? And who would complain about the deaths of those who are already well on the periphery of society?

    We’re already allowing criminals to serve along side of the Average Guy/Gal next door. And since we now have the largest prison population in the world, how far of a stretch is it to allow early release for those who committed drug crimes, or other misdemeanors to get them to go to war?

  • @ #8
    Hey, I don’t know anything except that all I know is Everything You Know is Wrong!

    no seriously, I think that atheists ~or~ agnostics that spend inordinate amounts of time arguing about something that (probably) doesn’t exist have somehow missed the point. It would be just as productive to argue about your dragons. So if you’re looking for a debate from me on the subject of the existence of God…sorry, I’m (militantly) indifferent. (insert smiley to indicate no disrespect intended)

  • Mayor Larry Langford declared Friday as “It’s Time to Pray Day” in Birmingham

    If the city is really in trouble they should just have a Bend Over and Kiss Your Ass Goodby Day.

    “Even if you get upset, we’re still going to have it,” Langford said. “This city needs to humble itself.”

    I’ve never understood why Christians think it’s humble to claim to know what the creastor of the universe is thinking.

  • I find the Christian – Military connection disturbing and frightening.

    Religious extremists have taken over the Republican party over the past 40 years or so. Won’t we all be in pretty deep s**t when they have achieved the ability to control the military of the USA?

  • Dale said: “What a great selling point for atheists (if we had anything to sell). Atheism is a get out Iraq free card.”

    That’s the ticket; you don’t have to pretend to be gay anymore!

    😛

  • So what? He doesn’t believe in the same voices that told Bush to go kill innocent people, waste trillions of dollars, make us more vulnerable to terrorist attacks, and set us back centuries in global relations. Maybe if more people felt the way Jeremy does we wouldn’t be in this mess.

  • The incorporation of religion into patriotism is hardly new. For God & Country has frequently been a war cry, only the right-wingers in the military (find one who isn’t) now are trying to marry them into a fascist mantra. This is particularly dangerous to the survivial of a constitutional republic theoretically keeping religion and government separate. History may well record that the military overthrow of our form of government started with this pernicious poison.

  • Mayor Larry Langford has very good reason to whip up a little religious froth. He’s been lining his pockets in a most amoral way and needs to create some holy smoke.

    http://www.bhamweekly.com/article.php?article_id=00648

    From the article:

    It is common knowledge in Birmingham that the Securities and Exchange Commission has been investigating a series of conspicuous bond deals that took place during Langford’s tenure as president of the Jefferson County Commission. Also, it has been widely reported that in his second interview with the SEC Langford refused to answer investigators’ questions, citing an ambiguous Constitutional right.

    What has not been reported is what Langford said to those same investigators in his first SEC interview on June 21, 2007.

    Birmingham Weekly has obtained a copy of a transcript from that interview. What it reveals about the mayor is disconcerting: personal financial habits that are reflective of — and perhaps connected to — his management of public funds, and an attitude towards debt that makes the federal government seem frugal.

    What’s more, SEC exhibits from both interviews draw connections between Langford, lobbyist and associate Al LaPierre, and Montgomery investment banker Bill Blount. Documents shown during the SEC interviews indicate Blount and LaPierre helped Langford with his personal finances, while Langford opened the door for Blount and others to participate in Jefferson County bond deals and interest rate swaps.

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    From Mr. CB’s post:

    During the service, participants will be given sackcloth to wear and ashes to put on their skin. The practice is mentioned in the Bible of the Bible as an act of repentance and humility.

    Langford ordered 2,000 of the sacks.

    “Even if you get upset, we’re still going to have it,” Langford said. “This city needs to humble itself.”

    Ha-Ha.

    If it walks like a guy scrambling to save his own ass. And it talks like a guy scrambling to save his own ass. Well…it must be a guy scrambling to save his own ass.

  • So being an atheist gets you out of Iraq, maybe the whole military should convert to being atheists

  • Waiting for God

    Journalist, columnist, and television commentator Bill Moyers recently wrote that “for the first time in our history, ideology and theology hold a monopoly of power in Washington.” Ever since Abraham Vereide, a misguided immigrant to this country who brought very un-American ideas of Nazism and Fascism with him in his steamer trunk, the so-called “Christian” Right has long waited to take the biggest prize of all ” the White House. Moyers correctly sees the Dominionists or “End Timers” as being behind the invasion of Iraq.

    The political and religious dynasties who have embraced the Fellowship, Vereide, Fascism, Moon, Buchman, Moral Rearmament and all of their current and past manifestations, hatreds, and phobias show no sign of ceding power any time soon. There are many such father-son dynasties that hope to ensure a continuation of their shameful racketeering and political chicanery under the corporate “logo” of Jesus: George H. W. Bush to George W. Bush; Douglas Coe to David Coe; Billy Graham to Franklin Graham; Oral Roberts to Richard Roberts, Pat Robertson to Gordon Robertson; Jerry Falwell to Jonathan Falwell; Jeb Bush to George P. Bush; Robert Schuller Sr. to Robert Schuller, Jr., and Sun Myung Moon to at least nine sons (who are known about)
    ]What many evangelical Christians fail to understand is that Bush only pays lip service to Jesus while advancing a Dominionist (“fascist”) plan for global control. ___________________________________ Google up “The Fellowship”,better known as “The Family”-Hiilary’s Christian Dominionist associates.

  • #23 Is that on the PBS website? I’d like to read more…

    Moyers is IIRC an ordained Baptist minister. If anyone would know the dangers of the Domionists/End Timers, Moyers would.

    Wright, in his interview with Moyers, explained the point of his post-9/11 sermon: that we must never turn our hatred of the attackers/invading armies into hatred and revenge against the innocents. Which is, of course, the opposite of what Bushco has done and what our country has done again and again (Wright mentioned many examples in that sermon). No wonder he’s being slimed and attacked. (BTW, Wright was in Newark on 9/11 and saw the second plane hit the WTC from his hotel).

    If any of you would like to watch the interview or read the transcript, it is here:
    http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04252008/watch.html
    I highly recommend it. Even if you’re an atheist. 🙂 It’s very interesting and will give you some ammo against those wishing to slime Obama and Wright.

  • ……………………..:The Fellowship made inroads within the U.S. military, particularly the officers’ ranks. Through an entity known as the Officers Christian Fellowship (OCF), the Fellowship tapped officers in all the services and future officers in the service academies to become “ambassadors for Christ in uniform.” The motto of the OCF is “Pray, Discover, Obey.” The Christian Military Fellowship served as the OCF’s counterpart among the enlisted ranks. Adjunct Fellowship organizations targeted foreign officers and enlisted men, particularly in Great Britain and Australia; service spouses; and service mothers. The international military fellowship is known as the Association of Military Christian Fellowships (AMCF). One person close to the AMCF is Arthur E. (“Gene”) Dewey, a retired Army officer who served as Colin Powell’s Assistant Secretary of State for Population, Refugees, and Migration. Dewey was also a personal consultant to Douglas Coe. In his State Department position, Dewey was an ardent foe of international family planning programs, including the denial of reproductive health care to refugee women.

    Eventually, the Fellowship would count some of the military’s top leaders among its members. They include former Joint Chiefs Chairman General David Jones, current Joint Chiefs chairman General Richard Myers, former Marine Corps Commandant and current NATO commander General James L. Jones, Iran-contra figure Marine Lt. Col. Oliver North, and, perhaps even more controversial than North, Army Lt. Gen. William “Jerry” Boykin, the military head of Defense Secretary Rumsfeld’s intelligence branch. In 2003, Boykin, in a speech to the First Baptist Church in Daytona Beach, Florida, referred to the United States as a “Christian nation” and, that in reference to a Somali warlord, he stated, “ I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.” The reverberations of Boykin’s comments were felt around the world. But his allies and Fellowship compatriots, Rumsfeld, Myers, Kansas Representative Todd Tiahrt, and most important, George W. Bush, refused to condemn him. Calls for Boykin’s reassignment when unheeded. Soon afterwards, Boykin’s Pentagon intelligence group was discovered to have been involved with the torture and sexual molestation of prisoners in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The sexual molestation of prisoners included male and female teens being held in Iraq.

  • @24-Hannah: Thanks for the interest. I have been researching the Fellowship for about a month or so now, since the Wright flap hit. No,the information I posted is not on the PBS site. If you go to Wikipedia,,type in The Fellowship, you’ll find an excellent entry,and some some links. The above excerpts are from the Insider Magazine-“Christian Mafia”,by Wayne Madsen. There are also published pieces in Harper’s and Mother Jones . It is TRULY breathtaking to read the depth and breadth of the scope and power of its members AND the religious doctrines that underpin this organization. This is the group that started the National Prayer Breakfast,but its ties to Sun Yung Moon,Nazi and Fascist tenets ,and Rushdoony make it certainly an entity whom voters should know a whole lot more about . NO MSM coverage of this to speak of. I heard it mentioned once.

  • #19___________How right you are!! I cannot recommend highly enough the above links in my previous post . This fellowship,sometimes called “The Family”, even refers to its groups as “cells”.(There is a book that is supposed to come out next month,written by the young man who wrote the Harper’s magazine article referred to above.)

  • Jeremy ended up coming back to the U.S. only about 3 weeks before the rest of his unit. He has served a total of 28 months in Iraq.

    Freddy’s myspace

    myspace.com/freddywelborn

    You can see his side of the story…

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