This Week in God

First up from the God machine relates a bit to an item from yesterday about the right’s sudden obsession with “In God We Trust,” this time, in Ohio public schools.

Despite constitutional concerns, Gov. Bob Taft signed a bill [this week] requiring all public and community schools to display any donated copies of the national and state mottos — “In God We Trust” and “With God, All Things Are Possible.” […]

The bill, sponsored by Rep. Keith Faber, a Celina Republican, requires public schools, including charter schools run by private entities using state money, to display copies of the mottos if they are donated in a classroom, auditorium or cafeteria. An earlier version of the bill required display in every classroom in the state.

Moms for Ohio, a small political-action committee that mostly promotes conservative causes, pushed the bill as instilling the right values in children.

How wonderfully logical. Children will see “[tag]In God We Trust[/tag]” posters everywhere, every day, until they’ve lost all meaning. This will “instill the right values,” the same way putting the phrase on all currency since 1954 has dramatically curtailed the rate at which people steal others’ money. Oh wait, it hasn’t.

Next up from the God machine is a controversial story about a towering, 43-foot-tall cross, public property, and a legal fight that’s spanned nearly two decades.

In 1954, some religious activists erected a towering cross on publicly-owned land in San Diego. Activists had erected similar crosses at the site for about a century, but previous versions were vandalized or destroyed, and this one was built to last. (Defenders insist it is a war memorial, but its founders called it an “Easter Cross.”)

The Mount [tag]Soledad Cross[/tag], of course, sparked a lawsuit, which argued the cross should be moved to private property. After a series of stunts and schemes, the local government ran out of legal options and was ordered by a federal judge to remove the towering cross from the premises.

Unfortunately, Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy gave the cross a reprieve, pending further appeals. That’s a shame; as an LA Times editorial noted today, the cross has to go.

Whether viewed as a war memorial, an icon or a place of worship, the cross is an extremely visible symbol of one religion. It occupies arguably the most prominent piece of public real estate in the city, which is in a state where the Constitution is even more exacting than the U.S. Bill of Rights about the separation of church and state. California’s “no preference” clause explicitly prohibits the government from giving any preferential treatment to a particular religion, which is mainly why federal courts have ruled repeatedly that the cross must go. Even seen as a public war memorial, it is lopsided, honoring only those members of the armed forces who belonged to a particular faith. [..]

[I]t is abundantly clear — from court proceedings, legal history and to any passing motorist on I-5 — that the cross on Mt. Soledad represents an unacceptable establishment of religion on public land.

One other thing: some defenders of the cross have argued that if this religious monument has to be removed, lawsuits might force smaller crosses from public cemeteries. The argument, as a friend of mine recently noted, is a baseless “scare tactic.”

Crosses and other religious symbols at cemeteries, whether government run or privately owned, are freely chosen by the families of fallen military personnel. No one is forced to accept a cross, nor do government officials presume to use the symbol of one faith to honor all war dead.

The case is going to the 9th Circuit in a couple of months where proponents of state-sponsored religion will no doubt lose, again.

… the same way putting the phrase on all currency since 1954 has dramatically curtailed the rate at which people still others’ money.

Hey CB,
Is that voice-recognition software on the fritz again?

  • “.. Children will see “In God We Trust” posters everywhere, every day, until they’ve lost all meaning. ..” I don’t know how many aeons I’d need to see that poster every day to actually find its meaning.

    What is this ‘God’ thing anyway? Definitions please.

  • I just read in my morning paper about a public high school valedictorian who had her microphone turned off because she refused to alter her speech when she began to preach about accepting Jesus.
    The school rightly said that a recent federal court ruling declared this unconstitutional. But I’m sure the Dobson crowd won’t pass up a chance to martyr this poor child.
    Because evangelical Christianity is such a repressed group in this country, you know.

  • Maybe we should re-consider the First Amendment. If we had an official state religion for a limited time, as did most other nations, we’d get over the psychosis more quickly, as have they (churches in Europe are mostly tourist meccas).

    Doesn’t have to be much. Certainly not an Inquisition or Jihad. Maybe just display “Gott mit uns” and let it go at that.

  • Gov. Bob Taft signed a bill [this week] requiring all public and community schools to display any donated copies of the national and state mottos — “In God We Trust” and “With God, All Things Are Possible.” […]

    Every donated copy? I’m sending out a call to the porn industry and every porn star to donate pictures of their naked copulating bodies with In God We Trust painted, printed or tatooed across their favorite no longer private parts to every school in Ohio. Lunchtime is going to be soooo much fun;>

  • Hi, Ed (post #4). I was thinking more along the lines of “with the Tao, all things are possible”. Same sentiment, just a different deity. The xtians would have a cow. Sacrificial, no doubt. 😉

  • “Moms For Ohio”… Ah yes, “MoFO”, a fine group, helpfully providing opinions they think we all should have.

    ‘Pogroms, gitchyer pogroms here! Can’t tell night from day without a pogrom!”

    *sigh*

  • Martin, they’re going to have to hurry to score wall space before the soda pop and candy companies take it all with donated posters of “In God We Trust…And Kit Kat too” or maybe “With God, (and Pepsi), All Things are possible”.

    These guys do love their “my way or the highway” edicts don’t they?

    Thanks for the link Ed, and the reminder. From one of the sites at Ed’s link:

    Hitler also said ‘Die zehn Gebote sind Ordnungsgesetze, die absolut lobenswert sind.’

    ‘The Ten Commandments are laws for order, which are totally praiseworthy.’

    Hey, if they’re good enough for Hitler…………

  • Maybe a poster of somebody offering Jesus a Coke while he’s carrying the cross. He’s grateful for the refreshment and gazes heavenward to give thanks. Ask and you shall receive. Just don’t ask for the wrong stuff. God knows a thing or two about brand loyalty.

  • I bet the US Mint could replace “In God We Trust” on the currency with “E Pluribus Unum”, and noone would ever notice.

    Until James Dobson sees it while he doles out hush money to the family who’s dog he just brutally murdered for pissing on his front yard (see first story for today).

  • I just read in my morning paper about a public high school valedictorian who had her microphone turned off because she refused to alter her speech when she began to preach about accepting Jesus.
    The school rightly said that a recent federal court ruling declared this unconstitutional.

    I’m sorry, if some girl won valedictorian and wants to praise Jesus for making her strong (or whatever), good for her. That’s freedom of speech, and short of her going up there and using epithets or violating school policy or something, it seems like her right to do so. There’s nothing “state sponsored” about that.

  • “God’s love is so great that he gave his only son up,…. to an excruciating death on a cross so his blood would cover all our shortcomings and provide for us a way to heaven in accepting this grace.”

    Couldn’t just say “I want to thank Jesus for this honor and pray for the future”?
    Had to get all blood-stained, “Passion of the Christ” on everyone?

    If my church’s priest said that during his homily, even the more conservative members of the parish would be a little taken aback by the wording.

  • Ah yes, nothing like letting atheists know they belong in public schools as well. I tell ya, this country is going backwards. Quickly.

  • Wonder what GWB, the biggest fake-Christian of them all, would have to say about this? George Bush’s blood-lust, his repeated committment to “Christian” beliefs, and his constant reference to ‘evil-doers’ bear all the hallmarks of the one warned about in the Book of Revelation, the Anti-Christ. Pope John Paul II is said to have stated that he wished he were younger and in better health to confront the possibility that bu$h may represent the person prophecised in Revelation. We wish so too. With bu$h in office, we are going to need many more “war memorials”.

  • In reductio ad absurdums I trust.

    “.. California’s “no preference” clause explicitly prohibits the government from giving any preferential treatment to a particular religion, ..”

    So a large Sakyamuni Buddha rupa, or Shiva Nataraja, or.. well, I don’t know, of a similar scale on a neighbouring hill would relieve the government of preferential treatment complaint? Just asking.

  • Okay, I can see I’m not going to get my definition. Fair enough. Only teasing. Of course, I know there’s no definition. There are probably as many ideas about ‘God’ as there are people to have them. Fair enough.
    To require your nation to put its trust — you know, trust, that thing you can hardly give to your best friend — into something inherently indefinable seems, TMHP, to be a teechy-weechy bit risky. No?
    That’s all. Nothing for or against ‘God’ him-, it-, herself.

    (Does he have a beard, though?)

  • Sorry about the idea of donating a porn image with the words. The law requires that the only image allowed is that of a US or Ohio flag.

  • Lest we forget, Ohio is one of the “battleground” states and riddled with accusations of election fraud.

    How can such godly people even think of such unethical behavior?

    Jefferson said something about a “priestly landscape”……

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