This Week in God

This week, I just want to highlight a single religion story, which happens to be one of my favorite God-related anecdotes in a long while.

For years, religious right activists have complained about prohibitions on school-sponsored prayer at school events, especially football games. If one religion is in the majority, they say, and families want an official prayer read over the loudspeaker for attendees, what’s the problem? As the story goes, non-Christians don’t have to say the prayer if they don’t want to.

Supporters of church-state separation make the point that everyone, regardless of faith, should feel equally welcome at these events. If people want to pray before, during, or after the game, that’s up to them, but the school should stay out of it.

This week, this position picked up an unusual ally: a conservative Christian writing on the far-right Web site WorldNetDaily.

In a letter to the editor, Gary Christenot recalled his time in the Air Force stationed at a base on the Hawaiian island of Oahu. The area was somewhat isolated and dominated by Buddhists and followers of the Shinto faith.

Christenot wrote about attending a high school football game there. The Baptist family was dismayed when a Buddhist priest was called upon to offer the invocation “to god-head figures that our tradition held to be pagan.”

Wrote Chistenot, “We were frozen in shock and incredulity! What to do? To continue to stand and observe this prayer would represent a betrayal of our own faith and imply the honoring of a pagan deity that was anathema to our beliefs. To sit would be an act of extreme rudeness and disrespect in the eyes of our Japanese hosts and neighbors, who value above all other things deference and respect in their social interactions.”

It’s funny how being part of a minority changes your perspective, isn’t it?

Indeed, Christenot soon learned that learned that because the area was dominated by people of Japanese and Chinese descent, the prayers were always either Buddhist or Shinto. If Christians didn’t like it, they weren’t forced to say non-Christian prayers, but the majority ruled.

Christenot suddenly began to understand the broader dynamic a little better.

“We often advocate the practice of Judeo-Christian rituals in America’s public schools by hiding behind the excuse that they are voluntary and any student who doesn’t wish to participate can simply remained seated and silent,” wrote Christenot. “Oh that this were true. But if I, as a mature adult, would be so confounded and uncomfortable when faced with the decision of observing and standing on my own religious principles or run the risk of offending the majority crowd, I can only imagine what thoughts and confusion must run through the head of the typical child or teenager, for whom peer acceptance is one of the highest ideals.”

Well, whaddaya know. There’s hope for some of these guys after all.

So is Christenot his real name? It is too perfect.

I wonder if he sat or continued standing? I wonder if god cared.

It seems his insight didn’t cure him of the insanity of religion though.

  • I’m glad he learned something from that experience. How sad is it that it took this long for a grown man to realize the world doesn’t revolve around him?

  • I have to laugh every time I hear some right-wing bigot ridiculing Nancy Pelosi, e.g., for being a “San Francisco liberal”. When I first started working for politicians there, aged 17 in 1957, all the San Francisco Democratic Party was interested in was keeping Blacks from invading the (all Irish Catholic) Mission District and, to a lesser extent, keeping them out of the cheap-rent Haight-Ashbury.

    As with most dominant groups, it never occurred to them that what they were doing might be wrong or in any way harmful. In fact, many of them spoke well of themselves for “letting them” live in such a wonderful city, as opposed say to “shipping them back where they came from”. You had to be on the receiving end of such treatment to even notice it.

    Disgusted with the bigotry, I mostly worked for liberal Republicans (there were many of them at that time). When Mayor George Christopher ran for re-election in 1959 his opponent was the Democratic Assessor, Russ Wolden. Russ and Chief of Police, Tom Cahill, arranged for a letter to appear the Sunday before the election, on Mattachine Society stationary no less, thanking Christopher for opening the city to gays. The trick backfired when our team instantly sent somebody to Mattachine headquarters in Texas and exposed the theft of the stationary by a Democratic operative.

    I wish (in vain) that the world were more populated with “San Francisco liberals” of the Pelosi variety. Smug “liberals” like Wolden and Cahill still make my stomach churn. The flip side of the old line about “Even paranoids have real enemies” is “Even saints can be real bastards when they take other people for granted.” “My way or the highway” isn’t confined the right, though sure seems to flourish there.

  • Ed:

    Irish Democrats in San Francisco were never “Liberals.” They were Democrats because their ancestors were Democrats because the bosses were Republicans. They became even worse conservatives when they got enough money to move out of the Mission to the Sunset District. I was there in the 60s and 70s and can attest to this. Not just the Irish. The North Beach Italians were almost worse. Joe Alioto was about as far from being a “liberal” as you could get, and he was a Democrat. The SFPD and the District Attorney was not only not “liberal” but actively “fascist” till the mid-70s at least. I say that as someone who covered the trial of Los Siete de la Raza in 1970. We had to take the Democratic Party from them starting in the late 60s, and it never really happened till George Moscone got elected Mayor, and he got assassinated by a Mission Irishman. Diane Feinstein is a perfect example of what Democrats used to be in San Francisco.

    I am so glad to be away from the smug self-righteousness of that overpriced piece of real estate, which is only exceed by Marin and Sonoma Counties. The open cynicism of Los Angeles is so refreshing, every day.

  • Oh that all fundies had the eye-opening experience of Christenot!

    I am a mainstream Christian, a liberal, and would no more want my faith or beliefs pushed onto someone else than I would want theirs pushed onto me. Separation of church and state is, in fact, one of the statements of belief of the (liberal) faith-based social justice group to which I belong.

  • Lordy, even after enduring this experience, this benighted soul fails to see just how assinine he sounds describing his reaction to a confrontation with public religion. Horrors! They prayed to somebody else’s god! Whatever should we do?! Such an impossible dilemma… NOT.

    Please, get over yourself and your grim, vengeful deity already. The Big Guy would be happy to see you share a little love with your neighbors. It’s not like you’re voting for a Democrat or anything awful like that.

  • “the practice of Judeo-Christian rituals”

    Got to love that one.

    This guy’s experience among Buddhists & Shintos sounds exactly – exactly! – like what Jews feel when Christian clerics open football games, conventions etc with an appeal to the Holy Trinity.

  • So, if he goes to a place where the majority of people are of a different skin colour does he expect them to wear bags over their heads lest their differentness alarm him?

    I give him five out of 100 points for getting part of a clue, and another 10 for encouraging others to do the same. Even if it is in a completely bass-akwards sort of way. If this idea spreads we might see an end to the National Day of Showing Everyone You’re a Self-Righteous Twat, aka The National Day of Prayer.

  • Hope ??

    There’s no hope, this idiot just happened to be placed in a situation that made him realize what a pathetically hypocritical jackass he really was.

    So I wonder where Mr. Revelation stands on gay marriage, immigration, welfare, discrimination, pregnancy and a zillion other controversial topics ? Or maybe Santa Clause will turn him into a gay, Hispanic, pregnant female for day, and then maybe he might get on track with humanity.

    It’s like we are suppose to celebrate and rejoice because this man had one moment of humility that changed his mind about one miniscule topic. Screw him and his silly revelation.

    Wouldn’t it be nice is someone pointed out to this tool that their are people who actually live in the real world that don’t need some obscure event to realize that other people actually hurt and suffer the same way he does ? You know people like his magical hero Jesus.

  • There’s one big difference between Mr. Christenot’s situation and the reverse: Christians are right and Buddhists/Shinto are wrong. I guess somebody’s backsliding and losing sight of that fundamental fact.

    I’ll be praying for him. In the meantime, he should consider changing his name… it basically means “anti-christ”. I mean, heck, if the DMV assigned me a license plate with the number ‘666’ in it, I would be obiligated as a Christian to have it changed, no?

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