This Week in God

First up from the God Machine is a follow-up to last week’s item about the College of William and Mary, one of the nation’s oldest public universities, deciding to remove an 18-inch brass cross that had been displayed on the altar of an on-campus chapel. As we talked about, the public university wanted to make the chapel less faith-specific, so that all religious students in a diverse student population would feel equally welcome.

This week, a lawsuit was filed. The reasoning may seem like a joke, but it’s serious.

A graduate of the College of William and Mary’s law school has sued to demand that a brass cross be returned to permanent display on the altar of the campus chapel.

George R. Leach contends that the removal of the cross restricts the practice of religion, violating the First Amendment because governments can’t prohibit individuals from practicing religion. […]

The school cannot comment on pending litigation, William and Mary spokesman Brian Whitson told the Associated Press on Feb. 13.

It seems to an increasingly common approach to religious liberty for Christian conservatives. In order to practice their religion, the argument goes, Christian conservatives need special treatment and endorsement from a secular government. Leach’s lawsuit effectively argues that he cannot exercise his religion unless William and Mary promotes a Christian cross at a public school’s chapel.

The lawsuit isn’t likely to work, butt I suspect the religious right will endorse the litigation enthusiastically.

And speaking of the religious right, our next item involves a leading Christian right group taking anti-gay bigot to task. Sort of.

As you may have heard, former NBA star Tim Hardaway was asked on a Miami radio station this week about a former teammate who acknowledged being gay. “You know, I hate gay people, so I let it be known. I don’t like gay people and I don’t like to be around gay people,” he said in the interview. “I’m homophobic. I don’t like it. It shouldn’t be in the world or in the United States.”

Reader M.W. noted that Concerned Women for America, a leading anti-gay religious right group, condemned Hardaway’s comments. That’s the good news. The bad news was CWA’s motivation.

“Hardaway’s comments are both unfortunate and inappropriate,” said Matt Barber, the policy director for Concerned Women of America. “They provide political fodder for those who wish to paint all opposition to the homosexual lifestyle as being rooted in ‘hate.'”

But Barber then fires off his own anti-gay broadside: “It’s perfectly natural for people to be repelled by disordered sexual behaviors that are both unnatural, and immoral.” […]

[Barber] added that gay activists are at least partly to blame.

“Hardaway’s comments only serve to foment misperceptions of widespread homosexual ‘victimhood’ which the homosexual lobby has craftily manufactured,” said Barber in a statement.

If I’m understanding this properly, I think Concerned Women of America believes Hardaway’s anti-gay bigotry was bad, because it might discourage others from embracing anti-gay bigotry.

And, finally this week, there’s an odd religious story out of Colorado, where members of Denver’s Regional Transportation District are asked to take an oath of office. Specifically, the oath reads, “I do solemnly swear by the ever-living God…that I will faithfully perform the duties of the office of director of the Regional Transportation District to which I have been elected/appointed.”

An employee of RTD was uncomfortable with the oath, and the department decided to make the oath optional. Problem solved, right?

Wrong. James Dobson’s Focus on the Family is outraged.

“Without a reference to God, an oath is practically worthless,” harrumphed Tom Minnery, senior vice president of government and public policy at Focus on the Family. […]

Actually, compelling someone to swear an oath that they don’t believe in is what makes the oath worthless. We do not honor religious liberty by coercing people to make professions of faith they do not sincerely hold to be true. The Denver Regional Transportation District understands this, as its recent action shows. Why can’t Focus on the Family?

Good question.

For William and Mary, put the cross back and hang a Jesus figure from it. See how the evangelicals like that.

An oath on an imaginary being. Yeah, that’ll ensure we don’t get any crooks in there. I think all oaths should be on the Quran until further notice.

  • Welcome to the 21st Century Fuckwits, keep squawking about how badly Christians are treated and we’ll engage in a little historical re-enactment so you can gain some perspective. Where can I get some lions and bears?

    “Hardaway’s comments only serve to foment misperceptions of widespread homosexual ‘victimhood’ which the homosexual lobby has craftily manufactured,”

    Substitute homosexual for Jewish in this sentence…sound familiar? The rantings of the Holocaust Denial/Jewish World Dominance Conspiracy Loons perhaps? These tedious bastards are so damn stupid they can only hate by the fill-in-the-blank method.

    I think Concerned Women of America believes Hardaway’s anti-gay bigotry was bad, because it might discourage others from embracing anti-gay bigotry.

    Oh yes. Look at who they are “rebuking.” The average bigot doesn’t want to have anything in common with a large African-American dude. Can’t you just hear the sheet draped yahoos at the next Cross-Roast?

    “Ya know whut I hates? F^gs.”
    “Hey, yew sound jest like Hardway!”
    “No wait!”
    “Get ‘im!”

    tAiO – to classy to mention what I think CWA stands for.

  • Every time I hear anyone from the Religious Right speak about anything, I wish the Romans had been a bit more diligent in rooting out this bullshit when there were only a few to get rid of.

  • tAiO – to classy to mention what I think CWA stands for.

    (Rhymes with “runts”) With Attitude?

    An oath is “worthless” without a reference to their Christian “God”? I guess that means I’ll never have to worry about keeping my word since I never reference gods of any faith when I make promises, committments, etc. Being an atheist, I’ll never be able to “solemnly swear” to anything. Such a waste.

  • the removal of the cross restricts the practice of religion, violating the First Amendment because governments can’t prohibit individuals from practicing religion

    The lawsuit of course has it totally backward. If the state prohibited the chapel from putting the cross (or any other cross) back up during the times when Christian services are being performed in the chapel, they’d have an arugment. The whole purpose of removing the cross is so that the cross isn’t *permanently* there while other faiths are using the chapel. What the intent of the lawsuit seems to be is to prohibit the chapel being used for any other religious services than Christian – which would, in effect, actually “prohibit” other individuals from practicing their religion.

  • Matt Barber, the policy director for Concerned Women of America.

    Why is the policy director for CWA a man?

  • Why is the policy director for CWA a man?

    Heh. Do you think the fundies let their women folk actually run anything? The ladies are too busy incubating the next generation of Radical Fundaments for that sort of thing and frankly, since the incident with the apple you can’t really trust ’em.

    tAiO

    Timpanist, you read my mind.

  • Thank you George R Leach for pointing out that it is physically and spiritually impossible to pray to God without a cross present.

    How can Hardaway play in league when after virtually every basket a teammate will slap him on the butt or give him a hug or other sign of affection? There’s enough latent homosexual activity happening on court to fill an interior design studio and stylist’s boutique . I hope he uses soap on a rope in the showers after the games.

    If I were to write a parody of an oath, I would start it with “I do solemnly swear by the ever-living God” And may Jesus H. Christ slap me down if I screw up while driving a bus and Lord help me if my bus is late on its appointed rounds.

  • Matt Barber, the policy director for Concerned Women of America.

    A flaming lesbian as the head of their policy? What’s the world coming to?

    As for the cross at William and Mary U… Reinstall it. And install other symbols, same size. Something for *everyone*, including not just Wiccans but Hedonists. Then everyone can concentrate on ignoring all symbols which aren’t “theirs”.

  • I love the delicious irony of one homophobic group condemning someone else for making them look like the bigots they are.

  • King William and Queen Mary, having been very tolerant for their time, would be quite disturbed about all this. They most especially would have found the likes of Dobson most disgusting, having fought their whole reign against his type. The Stadtholder of the Dutch Republic would have much to teach the certain current groups about religion and pluralism.

  • I need a cross to pray? Get a life…Jesus did. Always some smug pious goober using God to make a big deal out of nothing. No wonder God told you to pray in the closet.

  • I don’t want to be a woman but I don’t hate ’em. I don’t want to be gay but I don’t hate ’em. I just don’t get why some people get so upset and ugly about gays as long as they are not imposing their beliefs on them. I just don’t like people who try to impose their beliefs on me, who insist that I think they way they do or something is wrong with me. Who profess to hate me for not acting the way they do. I suspect there are even those who would kill me for not believing what they believe. I believe in tolerance and individual rights and your right to the same but I do wish Focus on the Family would just focus on their own family

  • I love the delicious irony of one homophobic group condemning someone else for making them look like the bigots they are.
    [Michael W @ 10]

    I wonder if there is away to get them to duke it out? I’m thinking some sort of no-holds barred death cage match. The survivor gets a sack of angry boomslangs.

    I’d buy tickets. I’d buy the snakes.

  • Dobson can jam that brass cross right up his ass as far as I’m concerned…and so can anyone else that gives a shit about this stupid issue. You can bet that if a Jewish or Muslim group was trying to get their religious symbols permanently installed, the xtians would be screaming for blood.

  • comment on religion – last item below:

    RANDOM THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS

    Why is it that we see and hear from “senior” correspondents such as Senior White House or Pentagon Correspondent? I hope that at some point the news shows will give us the views of some of their better ” junior” correspondents.

    Tony Snow : “” I’m not so sure anything went wrong” in Iraq (later narrowed on Meet the Press). When Tony Snow is not sure about anything, I worry. I rely on him for certainty.

    News Item – “GM in Talks to Buy Chrysler.” Why, is Tucker Motorcars not available?

    In last Wednesday’s press conference, Bush claimed that he can’t judge whether Iraq is a civil war while “living in this beautiful White House.” His lovely surroundings haven’t kept him from starting a disastrous war and now sending more troops to Iraq. We’ll be quite glad when he is relieved of the burden of this beautiful house.

    Is it true that many are saying that they would vote for Barack Obama if only he were black?

    Mitt Romney: – “We need to have a person of faith to lead the country.” So a Druid or Islamist might well qualify, but no atheist could?

    Homer http://www.altara.blogspot.com

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