This Week in God

First up from this week’s God machine is a story that reminds us that all that stuff in the New Testament about peace is still pretty important to some church groups. (thanks to hark for the tip)

A coalition of American churches sharply denounced the U.S.-led war in Iraq on Saturday, accusing Washington of “raining down terror” and apologizing to other nations for “the violence, degradation and poverty our nation has sown.”

The statement, issued at the largest gathering of Christian churches in nearly a decade, also warned the United States was pushing the world toward environmental catastrophe with a “culture of consumption” and its refusal to back international accords seeking to battle global warming.

“We lament with special anguish the war in Iraq, launched in deception and violating global norms of justice and human rights,” said the statement from representatives of the 34 U.S. members of World Council of Churches. “We mourn all who have died or been injured in this war. We acknowledge with shame abuses carried out in our name.”

The World Council of Churches includes more than 350 mainstream Protestant, Anglican and Orthodox churches; the Roman Catholic Church is not a member. The U.S. groups in the WCC include the Episcopal Church, the Presbyterian Church (USA), the United Methodist Church, several Orthodox churches and Baptist denominations, among others.

And from Karl Rove’s perspective, each of these churches is soft on terror, inviting another attack on U.S. soil, and suffering from a pre-9/11 worldview.

While these religious leaders are speaking out against war, a preacher who loves the war is finding a new round of resistance. (thanks to MW for the tip)

Wearing vests covered in military patches, a band of motorcyclists rolls around the country from one soldier’s funeral to another, cheering respectfully to overshadow jeers from church protesters.

They call themselves the Patriot Guard Riders, and they are more than 5,000 strong, forming to counter anti-gay protests held by the Rev. Fred Phelps at military funerals. Phelps believes American deaths in Iraq are divine punishment for a country that he says harbors homosexuals. His protesters carry signs thanking God for so-called IEDs — explosives that are a major killer of soldiers in Iraq.

The bikers shield the families of dead soldiers from the protesters, and overshadow the jeers with patriotic chants and a sea of red, white and blue flags.

“The most important thing we can do is let families know that the nation cares,” said Don Woodrick, the group’s Kentucky captain. “When a total stranger gets on a motorcycle in the middle of winter and drives 300 miles to hold a flag, that makes a powerful statement.”

Indeed, it does. Not all of the Patriot Guard Riders support the war, but it really doesn’t matter — they all support those families who’ve lost a loved one and who shouldn’t have to be harassed by scum like Phelps.

And, finally, in the category of dubious religious crusades, it appears that the Christian Exodus movement isn’t working out terribly well.

From his rural home near Lodi, Calif., Cory Burnell keeps close watch over the news from South Carolina, and he likes what he sees.

Turning the state into a promised land for conservative Christians will be easier than he had thought, he says.

Burnell, a 30-year-old financial adviser and founder of Christian Exodus, believes thousands of religious conservatives across the USA agree with him when he says their influence on government is diluted by liberals and Republicans who have failed to do what mainstream Americans elected them to do.

The answer he came up with in late 2003: Move like-minded Christians to one state: South Carolina.

Burnell’s plan is to convince thousands of far-right evangelical families to move to South Carolina to order to establish a mini-theocracy by popular will. (It’ll be kind of like the Taliban’s Afghanistan, only Christian.) How many have moved so far? 20 people — and Burnell isn’t one of them.

Edwin Gaustad, professor emeritus of history and religious studies at the University of California-Riverside, said the group’s mission is kind of quixotic anyway, since “it would have little chance of going anywhere unless there was a secession of South Carolina from the union.”

How does Christian Exodus respond to this? By saying they’d consider secession as an option. I’m sure we could get together and buy them a very nice parting gift….

Maybe the real IEDs are Phelps and his crowd:

Insensitive Exhibitionist Dumbasses

  • I think the Patriot Guard Riders’ judgment is really right-on here. I think that people in the families of the deceased soldiers probably really appreciate what they’re doing.

    If it was a funeral in my family, we’d probably invite them to eat with us after.

  • I hate to say it, but I’m starting to think how much better it
    might be if we just separated into the Red States
    of America and Blue States of America. Bush
    has so succeeded in dividing us that I wonder
    if we can ever reconcile. I’m disappointed that
    only 20 wound up in South Carolina. I wish the
    whole lot of them would.

    ‘Course, living in one of the reddest states,
    Idaho, would mean I’d have to move, and I
    really kind of like it here.

    But the rift between us reds and blues now seems
    so fundamental. I can’t imagine compromising
    what I believe in, in order to reconcile our differences.
    I used to think we all had the same goals and only
    differed in how to achieve them. Now I realize we
    don’t have the same societal goals.

    Very disturbing indeed.

  • Maybe the right-wing religious theo-fascists in Exodus can join with the wacky Pre-Vatican II Catholic heretics in Monahan’s new Pizza Paradise in Florida. Seems a more likely place to get people to go than South Carolina (no offense to any South Carolinians around here intended).

    Hark, I understand and often share the sentiment, and then I look back at the maps showing the election data not at a state winner-take-all red-blue level, but rather county by county, and on a red-blue spectrum of intensity. On that map, most of us all look kinda purple. Things like winner-take-all voting rules, closed primaries, ballot access rules, partisan redistricting, perks of incumbancy, and uncontrolled campaign financing lead to ultimate results that are much more polarized than I think most everyday citizens really are.

    One bit of evidence is the massive change over the past 24 months in the generic “which party can best move us in the right direction” or the generic congressional ballot polls — if we were really so inherently and irretrievably ideologically divided, those polls should rarely if ever swing, and then not be much. They have, however, swung heavily towards the D’s; that can only be a good sign on any number of levels. Maybe you can stay in Idaho after all!

  • I think hark is right about people having different goals for society– at least w/ regard to many issues. And I think the reason why is that different people have different views about human nature. A good poli sci professor once told me that to understand any philosophy, first you have to understand what its view of human nature is.

    What I wonder about is whether these differences between Reds and Blues are more nature or more nurture. I think w/ some it’s more nurture, but w/ many others it may be more nature. I would probably conclude that you always need a wide range of types of people in society, but that the goal for a most viable + vibrant kind of society is to get to the point where these people do not see themselves as compelled to work at cross-purposes so much.

    Which is, I think, what we have now- people working at cross purposes. Could be that there are goals of society that are always in tension, but we still need both of the contradictory goals- you need people to advocate for both sides, because the best result is really sort of a sane balance between them. If both are necessary, then it should never go too far. It should never get way too polarized– the imbalance would be akin to a societal neurosis.

  • “… from Karl Rove’s perspective, each of these churches is soft on terror….” And, from J. Edgar Hoover’s point of view the World Council of Churches was a communist conspiracy and monitored as such.

    Hark and Zeitgeist — simple solution, regardless of red/blue statehood: move to the cities (or places with easy access thereto) or to university towns. Hillbillies can mutter to themselves all they want; they don’t amount to a pile of pig shit. They’ll die off soon anyway, since the jobs (even if service sector) are in the urban areas. Sooner or later all the agricultural jobs will be (a) computerized, (b) corporatized or (c) done by “guest workers”. Long-term goal: get rid of that damned Electoral College (last refuge of drooling, gap-tooth hillbilly power): “One person, one vote, majority elects”. Hey! the Republicans can scrap super-majority vote requirements by fiat; why not us? If the hillbillies think their heroes and heroines (country music, NASCAR) are “country folk” then they’ve really had the shit-spattered wool pulled over their eyes and brains.

  • Bush is doing his inadvertent best by his unending string of blunders to make those red state true believers stop and reassess….

    We have been maniuplated for politcial gain to define ourselves by our differences, but we share a common heritage of democratic respect for the “loyal opposition”.

    When one ideology oppresses the other, both sides lose.
    I look for a national healing from the damage done by Rovian exploitation and not red or blue but united states of America.

    All we need is to rediscover what this country is all about.

  • Thank God for Patriot Guard Riders. I wonder if Phelps recognizes the turn of events he’s created. Protesting at funerals, he’s doing exactly the same thing that conservatives complained about liberals doing when the soldiers came home from Vietnam, ostrasizing the soldiers for serving their country. You would think those people would, even if they have no class, at least have a sense of history.

  • My comment at #5 may suffer a bit from brevity. If I actually put a post on my blog tonight or tommorrow, I’ll expand on this a little to make it clearer, and it’ll be a neat little thumbnail sketch of my views on society and politics.

  • Perhaps the lot of them could use a little lesson in the “real” history of their faith in God. They can find it at http://www.hoax-buster.org

    What we are seeing in Iraq and elsewhere in the world, right here at home for example is what happens when those who claim to represent God get their way.

    What’s wrong in Iraq can be traced to a conversation that Moses had with God 3,350 ago. The God Moses spoke to is now proved to be the sun. Small wonder trouble and strife follow those who believe the sun is a supernatural being capable of impregnating a woman, the Virgin Mary and thus producing a son to rule the entire earth.

    Note: those who do not believe the sun is God are not moral. We have the bullwarks of morality to tell us that and they are never wrong.

  • Bill,

    I feel no need for “worship” anything, but if I have to pick something, Sun worship would be it. The Sun provided the energy for evolution of life to occur on our planet, and it continues, through the food chain, to give us all life. Besides – living in the Pacific Northwest on Puget Sound – I really appreciate those rare occasions when old Sol turns his warm rays on me. Mmmm.

  • “How does Christian Exodus respond to this? By saying they’d consider secession as an option. I’m sure we could get together and buy them a very nice parting gift….”

    We could always start a collection—and buy these witless wombats a nice supply of Kool-Aid….

  • I’m certainly not opposed to worshipping the sun. If properly harvested it could supply earth with all the energy needed by man. I don’t even care if people worship imaginary beings. Perhaps a little “honesty” would make me happy.

    I’m a follower of John Adams who said that the constitution was where people should get their morality. John and all those who agree have been “taking a lot of gas” here lately. Don’t you agree?

  • Hooray for the Patriot Guard Riders!

    Ever since I found out about Reverand Phelps and his reprehensible activities, I’ve hoped to hear about some group actively opposing him. Way to go Patriot Guard Riders!

    Mr. Carpetbagger, do you have any contact info for that group? I’ve never donated money to a political candidate or party (and don’t plan on it anytime soon), but have given to interest groups whose cause I support. Typically that is environment related groups, but I’d make an exception here. I’d gladly pay for a tank or two of gas and a meal for a few of these riders.

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