Three months later, McCain’s Hagee ties draw scrutiny

I guess it’s an instance of “better late than never.”

Way back in February, after an extensive outreach effort, John McCain secured the endorsement of pastor John Hagee, a right-wing megachurch televangelist, best known for his bizarre anti-Catholic, anti-Semitic, anti-woman, anti-Muslim and anti-gay views. McCain campaigned alongside his new buddy in advance of the Texas Republican primary.

For weeks, McCain’s willingness to associate with and cozy up to Hagee drew widespread disgust. Despite condemnations from the Speaker of the House, the chairman of the DNC, Catholic groups on the left, Catholic groups on the right, and Jewish groups, a month after the endorsement, the combined number of articles about McCain and Hagee in the Washington Post, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Boston Globe, Chicago Tribune, USA Today, and Wall Street Journal was zero. Not one.

And now, three months later, the media is starting to notice. The NYT’s Frank Rich devoted his column to the subject on Sunday, and Newsweek ran a pretty good item in its new issue.

John McCain likes to think of himself as a straight shooter — a man of honor who doesn’t duck tough questions. But at least one question does get him bobbing and weaving: why doesn’t he renounce the endorsement of Pastor John Hagee, the San Antonio televangelist who has offended Roman Catholics and other groups?

On the trail, McCain tries to stay away from talking about Hagee. In New Orleans last month, he grew irritated when asked about the pastor’s views on Hurricane Katrina. “It’s nonsense, it’s nonsense, it’s nonsense,” McCain said when a reporter drew attention to Hagee’s 2006 statement to National Public Radio that New Orleans had suffered “the judgment of God” because of its “level of sin.” McCain refused to disavow Hagee’s support. “Would I consider repudiating his endorsement?” McCain said to reporters on the back of his bus. “I certainly condemn those parts of his remarks. [But] I continue to appreciate his support for the state of Israel and for many of the good things that he and his church have done.”

McCain and his aides draw a sharp distinction between his relationship to Hagee and Barack Obama’s ties to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. “I didn’t attend Pastor Hagee’s church for 20 years,” the candidate told reporters on his Straight Talk Express. “And there’s a great deal of difference, in my view, between someone who endorses you, and other circumstances.” McCain’s aides attribute the Hagee controversy to poor vetting. But even some Republicans (not affiliated with the campaign) privately wonder how the pastor’s extreme views slipped through without notice. McCain personally wooed Hagee for more than a year.

A leading presidential campaign sought the support of a crazed televangelist, and it never occurred to them to maybe do a Google search?

As Frank Rich asked, “Are we really to believe that neither Mr. McCain nor his camp knew anything then about Mr. Hagee’s views? This particular YouTube video — far from the only one — was posted on Jan. 1, nearly two months before the Hagee-McCain press conference. Mr. Hagee appears on multiple religious networks, including twice daily on the largest, Trinity Broadcasting, which reaches 75 million homes. Any 12-year-old with a laptop could have vetted this preacher in 30 seconds, tops.”

What’s more, let’s also not lose sight of what happened after the endorsement. After McCain wooed Hagee for a year while apparently knowing nothing about the guy, McCain was confronted with Hagee’s record of hate, intolerance, and general lunacy. McCain nevertheless said he welcomed Hagee’s endorsement and refused to disassociate himself from the preacher.

In other words, even if one buys the notion that McCain didn’t know who Hagee was while McCain pursued him for a year — a dubious claim, to be sure — there’s still the problem of why McCain continues to embrace Hagee’s support to this day. (Indeed, McCain has even defended Hagee, saying that Hagee was “taken out of context” when he called the Roman Catholic Church among other things, “the great whore” and “a false cult system.”)

It’s nice to have the media finally notice. I don’t know where reporters have been for three months, and I’m not going to get my hopes up about the cable news networks looping Hagee’s tirades 24-7 the way they did with Jeremiah Wright, but it’s a start.

Just throwing this out there, but I don’t think the political media is really all that good.

Also, I think it’s important to remember that McCain received Hagee’s endorsement because they share policy views on the Middle East. By contrast, Obama joined Wright’s church because of the work it did in the community, and its concern for the oppressed in places like South Africa.

That is, Wright would have zero policy influence in an Obama administration, while Hagee will have influence on US policy toward Israel and Iran in a McCain administration.

  • And there’s a great deal of difference, in my view, between someone who endorses you, and other circumstances.”

    Well, only insomuch as McCain asked for an endorsement from a gay-bashing xenophobe while Obama, to my knowledge, hasn’t asked Wright for an endorsement.

    I liked the quote someone posted yesterday from a letter to the editor of the Chicago Tribune:
    “I’ve learned this campaign that Barack Obama is personally responsible for what comes out of the mouth of everyone he’s ever met, while John McCain isn’t responsible for what comes out of his own mouth.”

    Truer words were ne’er spake.

  • Thunder always follows lightning.

    The recent gas-tax flap tied McPhony to She-Unworthy-of-Naming. The media realized they couldn’t bash away at her, in light of all the economic evidence against her, unless they bashed away at him.

    Once they started chipping away at the faux sanity of the overall proposal, the media got one of those—whaddaya call ’em? Oh, yeah—epiphanies. Very slowly, they’re waking up to the insanity that is John “RampStrike” McPhony.

    And they’re realizing that they don’t really like the future they’re seeing in a McPhony presidency.

    Yep—better late than never….

  • Steve (3), here’s another tie between Hillary and McCain:

    “Senator McCain made the point earlier today, which I agree with, and that is, it’s not so much a question of time when it comes to American military presence for the average American; I include myself in this. But it is a question of casualties,” said Clinton. “We don’t want to see our young men and women dying and suffering these grievous injuries that so many of them have. We’ve been in South Korea for 50-plus years. We’ve been in Europe for 50-plus. We’re still in Okinawa with respect to protection there coming out of World War II.” – Hillary, 2005

  • The didn’t slip through. I truly believe McCain and his people were perfectly aware of Hagee’s comments they or he just though that he would get a pass because he is John McCain – “maverick.” The press love him and forgive him anything because he is a “maverick” and a “straight shooter.” And up until recently that has been the case. Whether he continues to get a pass we will see, I have little faith in the press to wake up and smell the coffee – at least until after it doesn’t matter.

  • Am I mistaken, or did Hon. Sen. McCain stand on the same stage with Mr. Hagee (and Hon. Sen. Lieberman, Hon. Rep. DeLay et allii) in support of Hagee’s full throated support of settlement expansion in occupied Palestine (and concomitant rejection of any two-state solution)? I’m pretty sure that Sen. McCain has sited Hagee’s “support” of Israel as one of their shared points of agreement (to be distinguished for any “anti-anything” positions).

  • Hagee is McCain’s buddy because The Lobby says that the neocon Israel policy is essential. Wright takes the anti-neocon position, so his tirades will get all the media attention from the people who, by some coincidence, control a disproportionate share of American media. Add to that the sheer size of the fundamentalist Christian voting bloc, and you have a free-ride pass for McCain on his crazy preacher friend.

  • Rod Parsley (McCain’s “spiritual adviser”) seems more dangerous than Hagee, in my opinion. The fact that Parsley claims the United States was founded in order to destroy Islam along with the fact that McCain loves bombing Arabs is just a little too uncomfortable for me.

    If you’re going to be POTUS, please leave your religious war-mongering at the door, thanks.

  • “But even some Republicans (not affiliated with the campaign) privately wonder how the pastor’s extreme views slipped through without notice. McCain personally wooed Hagee for more than a year.”

    And therein lies the rub. Obama didn’t ask for Wright’s political support. McCain actively sought Hagee’s support. Disgusting.

  • What’s scarier, a presiden elected in spite of his minister, or a president elected because of vote-delivering ministers.

    We’ve see from Bush what happens when a president seats fanatic evangelicals throughout his administration. Bush has shown that the religious right votes for the GOP candidate because they know it will favor their agenda; it will curry their favor. RU486, stem cell research, stifling of scientific conclusions, vetting scientific applicants to policy positions with religious and voting questions, judges that would overturn Roe v Wade, constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, dimunition of separation of church and state, and more.

    What will it be like with McCain? War with Iran? Official tolerance of religious intolerance? Another Scalia appointment?

    Wright said “God damn America”. Someone else called our nation’s capital “the city of Satan”. Guess who?

    John Sidney McCain. Why does he keep his religious beliefs private? Why does he give official sanction, praise, and legitimacy to men who preach hate (men who he once called agents of intolerance)? Be scared. Be very scared.

  • I have been at the forefront of those thinking the Democrats should be hammering McCain on Hagee — and that we should be doing it, and not waiting for the media to make an issue of it. At the same time, I have little doubt that this was a blunder on McCain’s part, not a ‘window into the secret parts of his soul.’

    In fact, I asked my local psychic, Alison Dubious, and she reported on the following dream — as always she may have the details a little wrong, but the basis is accurate — or so she claims. The dream is set in McCain Headquarters.

    McCain: “Sh*t, I’m getting creamed by the Christians. Now Dobson is saying he’ll never support me. They’re nuts, sure, but they still vote. Will one of you guys find some big-name bible belter who’ll back ME. Only make sure you don’t get me somebody they’re gonna catch fighting Larry Craig for a middle stall like that pretty boy from Colorado.”

    (snip)

    “Okay, so who ya got?”

    “Well, Hagee hasn’t backed anybody yet. Maybe we could get him.”

    “Hagee, who the $^&% is Hagee?”

    “Cornerstone Church, has a show twice a day on TBN”

    “Great, that’s all we need, some guy Turner likes. This will get me votes, suuure it will.”

    (Campaign manager slaps forehead. Does it do any good to remind the Senator that Turner sold his stations years ago? No, it’ll just slip his mind, like lots of things do. Better make it simple.) “No, boss, TBS is the Turner station. This is TBN, stands for Trinity, one of these ‘all God all the time’ stations. He’s on that, and on lots of small stations. Calls himself a ‘Christian Zionist’ whatever that means.”

    “Beats me too, but it sounds good. Means he supports the Jews, supports Israel, I guess. We need some votes from them too, after the Idiot Son made such a big thing about ‘only Christians need apply’ for that program, whatever it was.”

    “Yeah, but he has said a few weird things…”

    “Of course he has. He’s a preacher, it’s his job to give the Christians what they want to hear. Anyway, don’t worry about that. You think any reporter’s gonna actually listen to some preacher any more than I would. They’ll just write the headlines we want ‘BIG NAME PREACHER BACKS McCAIN.’ That’s the big thing. Ya think anybody would have voted for Little Georgie if they took a look at what people like Dobson and Robertson really said? No, just get me a statement that he’s backing me, set up a photo op, then make sure he keeps his mouth shut about anything but God and maybe a few hints that the Democrats have Satan in their corner. That’s all we need.”

    (Again, maybe the details are shaky, but overall, it makes sense.)

  • On the other hand, Franklin is right that Parsley is the really dangerous one. Hagee is a nut, but a sincere one. Parsely is a Christian nationalist/dominionist who is, to put it mildly, totally unscrupulous — as was his congregant, Ken Blackwell whose Ohio manipulations probably gave Bush the election in 2004. That’s the one to keep an eye on.

  • Oh, and Hagee was not an accident… a failure to vet. McCain knows who Hagee is. He knew who Hagee was before he sought his endorsement. McCain recently told the Jewish Journal “… because of my close relations with them, and pastor John Hagee … is one of the leaders of the pro-Israel-evangelical movement in America. … we should be so grateful for the support of the evangelical movement for the state of Israel, given the influence that they have, beneficial influence that they have over millions of Americans… .”.

    As someone above pointed out, Parsley may be even worse. McCain sought him out and campaigned with him. Rod Parsley calls for the U.S. to fulfill its divine mission and destroy Islam. He calls repeatedly for the the eradication of a world religion with 1 billion followers and 7 million in the US. Here’s what he said, go to Youtube if you don’t believe: “I do not believe our nation can truly fulfill its divine purpose until we understand our historical conflict with Islam”. How does that play in Baghdad (where our soldiers walk the streets) and Riyad and Istanbul? There’s more. Parsley: “America was founded in part with the intention of seeing this false religion destroyed”. He also states that Muslim Americans are not loyal to America.

    McCain, not having won the nomination, sought this man out. Curried his favor. This is what McCain said on the stage with Parsley: “I’m very honored to have here one of the truly great leaders in America, a moral compass, a spiritual guide, Pastor Rod Parsley” … shakes his hand and thanks him etc. Go see it on Youtube.

    McCain wants to be PRESIDENT. What does he tell the 7 million muslim Americans — convert, it’s ok to hate on Muslims? What does he tell our allies in Baghdad? What does he tell the world? A man calls for the US to destroy Islam, and McCain calls him a great leader in America, a moral compass, anda spiritual guide? McCain says he has foreign policy expertise, but he is fueling Arab fear of another crusade or worse.

    This is who McCain thinks he needs to get elected. Parsley’s followers are being courted by McCain. McCain is comfortable with being on stage with Parsley and praising him. John McCain called Rod Parsley moral!

  • Rich: “John McCain likes to think of himself as a straight shooter — a man of honor who doesn’t duck tough questions. But at least one question does get him bobbing and weaving: why doesn’t he renounce the endorsement of Pastor John Hagee…?”

    No, Frank, the question is WHY DID MCCAIN DECIDE TO SEEK THE ENDORSEMENT OF HAGEE when he already knew that Hagee was so divisive and hateful?

    As for Jeremiah Wright, Bill Moyers had an excellent essay on his program this past Friday. I’ll quote some of it, but please go read the whole thing. Moyers is impressive and all journalists should strive for his excellence.

    http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/05022008/transcript.html

    Here’s a part, the gist, of Moyers:
    Many of you have asked for some rational explanation for Wright’s transition from reasonable conversation [on Moyers’ program 4/25] to shocking anger at the National Press Club… Many black preachers I’ve known — scholarly, smart, and gentle in person — uncorked fire and brimstone in the pulpit. Of course I’ve known many white preachers like that, too.

    But where I grew up in the south, before the civil rights movement, the pulpit was a safe place for black men to express anger for which they would have been punished anywhere else; a safe place for the fierce thunder of dignity denied, justice delayed. [Talks about slavery and that blacks are considered 3/5 of a person in the Constitution.] … the anger of black preachers I’ve known and heard about and reported on was, for them, very personal and cathartic.

    But in this multimedia age the pulpit isn’t only available on Sunday mornings. There’s round the clock media — the beast whose hunger is never satisfied, especially for the fast food with emotional content. So the preacher starts with rational discussion and after much prodding throws more and more gasoline on the fire that will eventually consume everything it touches. He had help — people who for their own reasons set out to conflate the man in the pulpit who wasn’t running for president with the man in the pew who was.

    Behold the double standard: John McCain sought out the endorsement of John Hagee, the war-mongering Catholic-bashing Texas preacher who said the people of New Orleans got what they deserved for their sins. But no one suggests McCain shares Hagee’s delusions, or thinks AIDS is God’s punishment for homosexuality. Pat Robertson called for the assassination of a foreign head of state and asked God to remove Supreme Court justices, yet he remains a force in the Republican religious right. After 9/11 Jerry Falwell said the attack was God’s judgment on America for having been driven out of our schools and the public square, but when McCain goes after the endorsement of the preacher he once condemned as an agent of intolerance, the press gives him a pass.

    Jon Stewart recently played a tape from the Nixon White House in which Billy Graham talks in the oval office about how he has friends who are Jewish, but he knows in his heart that they are undermining America. This is crazy; this is wrong — white preachers are given leeway in politics that others aren’t.

    Which means it is all about race, isn’t it? Wright’s offensive opinions and inflammatory appearances are judged differently. He doesn’t fire a shot in anger, put a noose around anyone’s neck, call for insurrection, or plant a bomb in a church with children in Sunday school. What he does is to speak his mind in a language and style that unsettle some people, and says some things so outlandish and ill-advised that he finally leaves Obama no choice but to end their friendship. We are often exposed us to the corroding acid of the politics of personal destruction, but I’ve never seen anything like this, this wrenching break between pastor and parishioner before our very eyes. Both men no doubt will carry the grief to their graves. All the rest of us should hang our heads in shame for letting it come to this in America, where the gluttony of the non-stop media grinder consumes us all and prevents an honest conversation on race. It is the price we are paying for failing to heed the great historian Jacob Burckhardt, who said “beware the terrible simplifiers”.

  • When you SEEK the endorsement of an individual and that individual accepts and agrees to endorse, it’s with the understanding that you agree with the person’s views or the individual pursued was offered something in exchange of the endorsement. So if John McCain does not share Hagee’s views as he has claimed, what favors will he have to return to that war-mongering Catholic hater?

  • The New York Jewish Week covered these issues extensively in the paper (thejewishweek.com) and its blogs (blog.thejewishweek.com). It is interesting and somewhat mystifying why McCain has gotten a pass on this connection while every connection of Obama’s becomes fodder for the partisan attack machinery.

    Is it that if you’re not a Christian millenialist, you simply can’t take Hagee seriously because he seems so wacky?

  • Jesus was a Jew! It’s the Christian church who created a convoluted anti-semitic perspective over the centuries, using Jews as scapegoats in order to consolidate their own power. In fact Jews have been the chosen people all right … chosen to be scapegoats by the Christians, by the Nazis, by the Muslims … and today, by the extreme left democrats and black liberation churches … which is ironical, since the Jews were significant in helping the civil rights movement happen.

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