Thursday’s Mini-Report

Today’s edition of quick hits.

* The House’s resolution on Armenian genocide is causing quite a diplomatic stir: “The Bush administration, chafing over a House committee vote to label the deaths of Armenians a century ago as genocide, said Thursday lawmakers could better spend their time passing legislation attending to today’s problems at home. White House deputy press secretary Scott Stanzel reiterated the administration’s disappointment with the vote by the House Foreign Affairs Committee and said it would be problematic for American efforts in the Middle East.”

* On a related note: “Turkey has recalled its ambassador to the United States, Nabi Sensoy, in response to a House resolution that would call the World War I massacre of Armenians by Turkish forces ‘genocide,’ the Turkish Foreign Ministry said Thursday.”

* WaPo: “An injured Iraqi man and the families of three Iraqi civilians who were killed in the Sept. 16 shootings by Blackwater security contractors sued the company in federal court today, calling the incident a ‘massacre’ and ‘senseless slaughter’ that was the result of corporate policies in the war zone. Attorneys for Talib Mutlaq Deewan, who was injured in the shootings at Nisoor Square, and the families of Himoud Saed Atban, Osama Fadhil Abbas and Oday Ismail Ibraheem, who were killed, filed the lawsuit this morning in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, asking for an unspecified amount of money to compensate for alleged war crimes, illegal killings, wrongful death, emotional distress and negligence. The lawsuit names Blackwater USA, The Prince Groupand Blackwater founder and CEO Erik Prince as defendants.”

* NYT: “The Marine Corps is pressing to remove its forces from Iraq and to send marines instead to Afghanistan, to take over the leading role in combat there, according to senior military and Pentagon officials. The idea by the Marine Corps commandant would effectively leave the Iraq war in the hands of the Army while giving the Marines a prominent new role in Afghanistan, under overall NATO command.”

* Paradoxically, dentists are making more money while Americans are having more dental problems. According to the Times, “[T]he percentage of Americans with untreated cavities began rising this decade, reversing a half-century trend of improvement in dental health.”

* Paul Krugman: “I’m just a liberal, living in a radicalizing time.” I know how you feel, professor.

* Politico: “Rank-and-file members of Congress are grumbling about the five-day workweek instituted this year by House Democratic leaders, complaining that it leaves little time for campaigning and allows few weekdays to deal with business back home.” You know, for most of Congress’ history, lawmakers stayed in DC for months. It wasn’t a bad system.

* Atrios makes an important point about school violence: “Any time there’s a horrible school shooting there’s talk of changing security as if there’s something schools can or should be doing. It’s stupid. We live in a society where lots of people have very easy access to guns. People who aren’t too concerned about getting caught or killed, as is usually the case, will generally manage to injure or kill a few people. They could just as easily do this in a school bus, or outside the school, or at some gathering of people elsewhere, or whatever. Turning the school itself into an extreme security location where students inevitably just feel like criminals won’t really help stop anything.”

* Tim Grieve: “Number of times Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, John McCain, Fred Thompson, Mike Huckabee and Duncan Hunter uttered the word “Bush” during Tuesday night’s two-hour debate in Michigan: 0. Number of times Giuliani and Romney referred by name to Bill or Hillary Clinton: 16.”

* If a writers’ strike affects The Daily Show, I’m going to be severely disappointed.

* Has everyone seen this? I swear the silhouette is spinning counter-clockwise; Ms. CB swears it’s spinning clockwise.

* Who’s pushing back against Bush’s executive overreaching? Strangely enough, it’s the state of Texas.

* And finally, last night, Lynne Cheney boasted to Jon Stewart that the White House’s policies are responsible for stopping terrorist attacks since 9/11. Stewart noted, “[T]here was the anthrax thing. … [Terrorists] have been doing that all these past six years. The Spanish bombings, the English bombings, and then all the bombs in Iraq.” Cheney responded, “Yes, yes. But we’re talking about American interests.” I wonder how many other conservatives agree that Washington, D.C., England, Spain, and Iraq are not “American interests”?

Anything to add? Consider this an end-of-the-day open thread.

Has everyone seen this? I swear the silhouette is spinning counter-clockwise; Ms. CB swears it’s spinning clockwise.

Clockwise if I look straight at it. CCW if I look at it out of the corner of my eye.

I blame Cheney.

  • For the first time ever on with Bush on something.
    WTF is the Dem congress doing?

    There is absolutely no upside to pushing this resolution through congress now.
    The dems can’t both support the war and undermine Turkey at the same time.
    Tons of our resourses for Bush’s idiot war go through Turkey.
    Tons.
    WTF?

    And Bush is right: You want to fix ancient genocide?
    Declare what happened to African American slaves in this country genocide AND recompense the survivors for their hard work and woes.

    Man oh man…
    These idiots in Congress have earned this term of endearment: DIMS!

  • “The Marine Corps is pressing to remove its forces from Iraq and to send marines instead to Afghanistan, to take over the leading role in combat there, according to senior military and Pentagon officials. The idea by the Marine Corps commandant would effectively leave the Iraq war in the hands of the Army while giving the Marines a prominent new role in Afghanistan, under overall NATO command.”

    See, they probably want to go somewhere where they can distinguish themselves and save their reputation. They want to be successful– not brag to woukd-be new recruits about how much they kick ass, and then have to give as the latest example of that, “Uh… Iraq.”

  • Has everyone seen this? I swear the silhouette is spinning counter-clockwise; Ms. CB swears it’s spinning clockwise.

    That is really weird! I stared and stared and could only see the silhouette spinning clockwise. Finally I tried sort of squinting at it and only looking at the legs and I could see it spinning counter-clockwise. Then when I opened my eyes fully to look at it, the figure seemed to suddenly reverse directions! Very, very weird!!!!!

  • If you look at the spinning silhouette long enough, it clearly changes directions. Also notice that there is no citation for the differences in right- versus left-brain function. Now, If someone reports seeing it go from anti-clockwise to clockwise (I see it going clockwise to anti-clockwise), then maybe they have something.

  • Although I know better than to get involved in the domestic disputes of others, I like the way Ms. CB swears. Clockwise.

  • Even if the silhouette is bogus, isn’t it interesting how we think we can control things we can’t? 🙂 Entire religions and new age belief systems are based on this.

  • Why did Jon Stewart treat Lynne Cheney with kid gloves last night? It’s not like she’s just the shy, retiring wife of a controversial public figure. She’s one of Prick Cheney’s chief attack dogs. (And she’s rightly famous in her own write, too; he could at least have asked her if, in her next book, she plans to return to pornography.)

    And am I the only one thinking that anyone married to that laugh for so many years is bound to have horrible things sloshing around inside him?

  • Clockwise. Couldn’t get it to shift. Then started reading what “right brain” meant, glanced up, and it had shifted. After a few seconds it shifted back. Same thing happened after reading again.

  • It’s oscillating back and forth through 180 degrees.

    Oh, and the proposed resolution on Turkey: WTF? Far be it from me to deny the Armenians their grievance, but the timing of this does no one any good. I suspect that it is someone’s idea of applying leverage to Turkey to tell them to back off in Kurdish Iraq, but it’s astoundingly ill-considered, if so.

  • Someone de-giffed it:

    t’s real. Download a free copy of Ulead’s gif animation software .. load that gif and you’ll see that there’s only 34 frames. Nothing tricky or behind the scenes about it. The thing twirls according to how you see it. I don’t know about the left/right brain aspect of it but download or use whatever gif animation software you might already have .. you’ll be blown away that even in slow motion when you click frame by frame (again only 34 of them) the motion depends upon your mind.

  • If you watch just the shadows of the models feet, you can actually get it to change back and forth from clockwise to counterclockwise without actually ever making a full revolution.

  • Clockwise for me. Counter-clockwise for a guy I work with. He argued with me for five minutes that it was counter and all I could see was clockwise. Vedddy interrresting.

  • Sarabeth,

    Jon Stewart tends to be very kind to all his guests unless they are journalists. Journalists get special treatment.

    Lynne Cheney looks like someone who can handle her husband. That is not a compliment.

  • Turning the school itself into an extreme security location where students inevitably just feel like criminals won’t really help stop anything.

    CB, you applauded Atrios for the above comment (the end standing in for the whole), but please think again.

    The point is that the kids have no choice — or not much — about being in school. It’s not okay to send kids to a place where they have to be and then to allow wackjobs to kill them. I’m not in favor of jailing kids, or cops in schools, or making the normal, more-or-less peaceable folks endure unreasonable restrictions because someone has major anger issues. But I’m also not in favor of schools pretending they are safe when their administrators don’t have a clue what’s really going on.

  • “I’ve been in Congress for 20 years, and for 20 years people have been saying the same thing” about the timing being bad, [Pelosi] said. Turkey was seen as having a strategic position in the Cold War as well as the 1991 Persian Gulf War and the current Iraq war.

    “Why do it now? Because there’s never a good time and all of us in the Democratic leadership have supported” it, she said.– AP

    Fair enough, but what the heck did you think you were going to accomplish? Or did you just get tired of being lobbied by the Armenian-American interest groups?

  • Cheney responded, “Yes, yes. But we’re talking about American interests.” I wonder how many other conservatives agree that Washington, D.C., England, Spain, and Iraq are not “American interests”?

    I wonder how many DC and other conservatives don’t consider Leahy and Daschle and several news outlets to also not mean “American Interests”. Methinks that number would be unsuprisingly high.

  • * If a writers’ strike affects The Daily Show, I’m going to be severely disappointed.

    I’m already severely disappointed; you mean to tell me doesn’t write and/or ad-lib his own stuff??? I guess that means there’s no Santa Claus, either, huh?

    Definitely clockwise. All the time; couldn’t get it to change direction even though I tried everyone’s tricks… That means I’m not reality based. And not detail oriented… I’ve been making lace — the tiny thing that requires manipulation of many threads “just so” — mostly without mistakes, too, but I’m not detail oriented??? It must be because I “get it”… 🙂

  • Here’s the trick I learned long ago, in a galaxy far, far away—called undergraduate college program:

    You can see it going both directions. Whatever your dominant side is, just stare at the rotating silhouette for 10 full rotations. then, focus on the reflection of the feet as they appear at the bottom of the series. Do this for 4 or 5 turns, and try to imagine that they’re going in the opposite direction. It’s easy to do, because both sides of the brain are “trained” to see mirror-images as a reverse of the actual image.

    Then focus back on the rotating image itself—and you should see it rotate to a sideways positionb and immediately switch back to rotaing the opposite diraction.

    As for the Marines—this has got to be a first. The Commandant actually wants to pull out of an engagement? Proof positive that the Corps is stretched to the breaking point!

    Finally: WTF is the matter with youze people on this Turkey thing? Think about this for a minute—a simple nonbinding resolution; something that the Senate can’t filibuster or “Lieberman-ize,” it can’t be vetoed or “signing-statement-ed” by that dunderhead in the WH—and it’s enough to get Turkey so pissed off at the US that Turkish airspace is closed off to THE IRAQ WAR EFFORT?!?

    What happens to that “war effort,” do you folks suppose, if all that manpower, ordnance, and material can no longer get to Iraq?

    You cut off the beast’s food supply, and the beast dies of starvation. Sounds like a real good way to end a war….

  • As for the Marines—this has got to be a first. The Commandant actually wants to pull out of an engagement? Proof positive that the Corps is stretched to the breaking point!

    The marines are basically drama queens- they want to fight conventional warfare, like they war taught, and do spectacularly well at it– they don’t want to do what they’re doing know, which is basically sitting in a tense, deadly game and not having anything really material to show for it.

  • “…we’re talking about American interests.”

    “Unsolved” anthrax terrorism attacks sent to United States Senators Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy on the ides of the repeal of the Bill of Rights, The “Patriot” Act (which Hillary cast her votes in favor of).

  • Swan wrote: The marines are basically drama queens- they want to fight conventional warfare, like they war taught,

    Interesting typo, “like they war taught” Gee I wish that when I was in the base bar at Fort Benning Ga, that I had thought to bring up this Marines-are-drama-queens discussion. 🙂

    Ah for the opportunity to sit by a roaring fire with a fine snifter of brandy and cigars all around, Me, Winston Churchill and Swan discussing the finer points of war strategery.

  • Ah for the opportunity to sit by a roaring fire with a fine snifter of brandy and cigars all around, Me, Winston Churchill and Swan discussing the finer points of war strategery.

    Dale, just play MechWarriors instead.

  • I get stuck seeing counter clockwise.

    The frame jump is what gets me, if I notice the shape, it goes backwards one way, then backwards the other. Very annoying.

    Half of the frames are merely mirror images of the other half of the frames, so the figure isn’t really three-dimentional.

  • I agree with the majority, and not Steve@21, about the Turkey thing; I can’t figure out what Congress is thinking. It would be great if you could do a post with some of the background on this, CB. I haven’t really been following it until lately and it seems like it just came out of nowhere. If there’s some basis for this, I’d like to hear it.

  • Weird. I’ll have to examine it more closely, maybe tomorow.

    I see it both ways. Goes back and forth. Sometimes I can induce the change, other times it just seems to happen.

    Very interesting.

  • Re; the figure; At first it seemed to be spinning clockwise, then I was startled to see there was a slight lurch and it seemed then to be rotating CCW. The I read the text. It suggested that you could change the perceived direction by concentrating. I think what is going on is that some people can change which side of the brain they use. I know I am very analytical when I have to be, (I was a radar technician in the Canadian Air Force), but I prefer to use a sort of intuitive way to solve some problems. A boss of mine in an engineering firm in a drunken fit at a Christmas party leaned into my face, spittle flying and informed me; ” you know Chisholm, your trouble is, you think like my f*#!!?*#ing wife”. He was a very left brained engineer and his wife was a latina ex-airline stewardess.
    I was pretty intimidated for the few remaining weeks I lasted at the firm. But in retrospect I felt a little flattered at the comparison. Better her than him, I thought!
    DC

  • “White House deputy press secretary Scott Stanzel reiterated the administration’s disappointment with the vote by the House Foreign Affairs Committee and said it would be problematic for American efforts in the Middle East.”

    LOL. I’d argue that the it’s the *ADMINISTRATION and its actions* that are problematic for American efforts in the Middle East.

    BTW, clockwise. And I fit descriptions in both the right and left brain columns, but not all.

    Is “anti-clockwise” even a word? Always thought it was counter-clockwise.

  • I tend to see it going counter-clockwise but if I blink a few times rapidly I can make it change directions.

  • Steve @ 21:

    … and it’s enough to get Turkey so pissed off at the US that Turkish airspace is closed off to THE IRAQ WAR EFFORT?!? What happens to that “war effort,” do you folks suppose, if all that manpower, ordnance, and material can no longer get to Iraq?

    It goes another route…
    And the cost of the war increases per second by some ridiculous Halliburton factor.

    But all that is obvious. Bush will have his war no matter the costs.

    What is not so transparent is the effect this will have on the Islamification of Turkey.
    Yeah verily: I am not a big fan of fundy Islam.
    Anybody who thinks a woman’s place is in a Burka… well they can go Cheney themselves.
    Will this non-binding resolution bind more Turks into Islam?
    Will it help push it away from the West?

    I don’t know.
    But it is worth worrying about.

  • No matter how else I try to view it, the shapely gal spins clockwise.

    On the Armenian genocide issue, concerning the deaths of a million and a half Armenians at the hands of the Turks during WW I. This same issue has been a cause for concern in Israel and in one community in the US within the last several months. Someone asked about more information so here are some links about it.

    First the latest article about it, which implies that the Turkish government was under the impression that Israel could sway US politicians is Israel braces as US-Turkey crisis erupts

    Now from the beginning of the controversy. Senior ADL official fired over comments on Armenian genocide by Turks

    Foxman: Armenian massacre was genocide
    (Foxman was the guy that wrote a book to counter Mearsheimer and Walt’s book if it matters.)

    Turkish envoy to return to Israel to correct Foxman statement

    Armenians urge Jews to take moral high ground and acknowledge Turkey committed genocide against the Armenians during WW I

    In the trenches: Truth and Consequences, Armenians, Turks and Jews

    Jpost: We have a duty to tell the truth

    Boston Armenians: ADL guilty of genocide denial

    Jpost: Turkey and Armenia, What Jews should do (a spin article minimizing genocide by claiming the other side did it too)

    ADL’s Foxman equivocating about Armenian genocide

    Turkey: Israel must get US Jews to back down on Congressional resolution that Armenian massacres by Turkey were genocide (we’ll see how much power AIPAC has)

    ADL reinstates man who first said Armenian massacre by Turkey was genocide (right thing to do for speaking the truth)

    Counterpunch article about this controversy

    Probably a lot more information than you wanted. Personally, I agree that the Congress’s time could have been spent in a better manner, but the core issue is the same as Holocaust denial. A million and a half people did die by executions and forced marches leading to deaths by starvation or dehydration. Turkey doesn’t want to admit that it happened. Maybe something good will come from the controversy if $hrub or Israel is prevented from flying over Turkey to attack Iran and starting another senseless war.

  • Hanna (post #35)

    Is “anti-clockwise” even a word? Always thought it was counter-clockwise.

    “Anti-clockwise” is the British version of “counter-clockwise”. Since the article is in an Australian paper, and Australian English is very similar to English English, they use many of the same terms and spellings.

  • Fair enough, but what the heck did you think you were going to accomplish? Or did you just get tired of being lobbied by the Armenian-American interest groups? Beep52 @18

    Acknowledgement of genocide is how you prevent it from happening again. Never forget. If you forget, history repeats. Helping Turkey cover up the atrocities is no favor to Turkey, ourselves or the world. Turkey will never move past this until it acknowledges its past and the truth of what happened. We are not served by sweeping our ideals under the rug to be in bed with Turkey so that we can continue sweeping our ideals under the rug in order to occupy Iraq. Genocide is not ok. Can you imagine if it were the year 2038 and Germany was still denying the Holocaust? God Bless Nancy Pelosi for her courage.

  • Odd- I saw two hands, each spinning in the opposite direction, until they slowly slowed down, and then stopped. Then, each hand began spinning in the opposite direction from which it had first spun.

    I guess this means I have a super-intelligent mind, that thinks according to a special process only I can master.

  • Haik, @39,

    It means *nothing*, that *US* objects to genocide in Turkey, whether it took place 90 or 9 years ago. I know “where you’re coming from” — your surname is enough of a compass — but it’s still just a bit of empty posturing, especially coming from us (US). Especially coming at this particular point — when our moral standing in the world is as close to zero as it has ever been in our history…

    I’m, actually, “with Steve”; since there’d have never been a “good time” to do it, it’s better that we did it now than at any other time; a pissed off Turkey might put a bit of a clamp on our Iraq (and Iran) misadventure. But I don’t think we should have done it *at all*, because it’s a waste of time, however “feel good” it may be.

    Your: “Can you imagine if it were the year 2038 and Germany was still denying the Holocaust?”
    is neither here nor there, as an argument. Turkey is *still* denying any wrongdoing, and will continue to do so; no amount of “American outrage” is going to change that and make them apologise. Germany, OTOH, “came to its senses” and repudiated the genocide of the WWII all by itself (if prodded by the vision of its leadership tried and convicted). It’s an entirely different story; not just a different page, but a different book altogether.

    As for blessings on Pelosi… None, until she either puts impeachment back on the table, or ships the two criminals currently masquerading as President and his Vice, off to the Hague. Her job description is tending to the well-being of the *US* and *all* of its citizens, not that of any other country and/or a particular minority — ethnic, religious, or both. Not doing what’s in his job description is why we don’t like Joe LIEberman, either.

  • Here’s my take on Al Gore winning the Nobel Peace Prize with the IPCC. Not much gnashing of teeth in East Wingnuttia over Rush Limbaugh not winning it, instead. In fact, so far, the biggest wingnut blogs haven’t gotten around to mentioning it, although we all have (well, most of us, anyhow). I’m going to be rubbing this in my Republican boss’s face all fucking day long.

    Michelle the Merciless has already squirted her sewage at it, on the other hand. She always did have that special initiative.

  • I see the figure going clockwise, and I can’t change it. This is kind of strange since I’ve always thought of myself as a “left-brain” person. Maybe when it comes to shapely female silhouettes I become “impetuous”, “fantasy-based” …

  • Clockwise, and try as I might I can’t see it any other way. In fact if I weren’t told it were possible, I’d never believe it could be seen any other way.

    I saw Mrs. Cheney sweetly say “I’m talking about American interests”. Kinda cute that she would say something so deeply insulting just when Bush is saying we shouldn’t condemn the Aremenian genocide so not to offend Turkey. As a half Spanish half American resident in Spain, I can assure Mrs. Cheney that she does no favors to American interests by saying basically, “well fuck them” to allied nations. Our 200 dead mean nothing, apparently. Well Mrs. Cheney, as your husband would say, go fuck yourself.

  • Woah! JC, I tried your trick and it works for me, I can manage to see her counter-clockwise but only with peripheral vision, that is so weird!

  • It was genocide.

    An admission of this truth would cost the present government nothing, but current policy is to continue to destroy churches and cemeteries and any vestiges that demonstrate the importance of the Armenian heritage in Asia Minor (which rather hinders the “the was only the Ottoman government” argument — why the Turks are so insecure I don’t know).

    Even if it weren’t a matter of speaking the truth, an anti-war Democrat might have been willing to support this to hinder continuing this pointless war through logistical means (nothing else seems to get any traction).

  • Nice job, CB. You got everyone to stare at the silhouette of a naked woman at work! 🙂

    Did it really have to have nipples? :O

  • This issue is at the height of hypocrisy. Are we worthy of being the world’s moral compass when you recall what was done to African Americans, and if we want to pin the label “genocide” on someone, what would you call what was done to Native Americans (Indians) in America? It seems that throughout history, the misuse of politics and religion has done more harm than any army.

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