Thursday’s Mini-Report

Today’s edition of quick hits.

* Bloodshed in Baghdad: “Fifty-three people were killed and 125 were wounded in two bomb attacks Thursday evening in a Baghdad commercial district, an Interior Ministry official said. A roadside bomb exploded first, around 7 p.m., in the central Baghdad district of Karrada, killing and wounding a number of people, the Interior Ministry official said. As others gathered to help the wounded, a suicide bomber amid the crowd detonated an explosive vest, killing and wounding many more, the official said. The majority of causalities occurred during the second attack, the official said.”

* A deadly terrorist attack in Jerusalem, too: “A gunman infiltrated a Jewish seminary in Jerusalem and opened fire in a library Thursday night, killing at least seven people, officials said. Police commander Aharon Franco told reporters at the scene that “an Israeli army officer nearby” then shot the gunman dead. Rescue workers said at least 10 people were wounded…. In Gaza, the Islamic militant Hamas praised the attack but stopped short of claiming responsibility. Thousands poured into the streets to celebrate, firing rifles in the air.”

* Good news from the Hill: “After more than a decade of struggle, the House on Wednesday passed a bill requiring most group health plans to provide more generous coverage for treatment of mental illnesses, comparable to what they provide for physical illnesses…. ‘Illness of the brain must be treated just like illness anywhere else in the body,’ said Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California. Supporters of the House bill, including consumer groups and the American Psychiatric Association, said it would be a boon to many of the 35 million Americans who experience disabling symptoms of mental disorders each year.”

* More discouraging economic news: “Home foreclosures soared to an all-time high in the final quarter of last year and are likely to keep on rising, underscoring the suffering of distressed homeowners and the growing danger the housing meltdown poses for the economy. ‘Clearly it’s the worst it’s been,’ chief association economist Doug Duncan said in an interview with The Associated Press.”

* A reminder of yet another reason not to torture — civilized countries won’t accept evidence beaten out of suspects: “The Canadian government is no longer using evidence gained from CIA interrogations of a top Al Qaeda detainee who was waterboarded.”

* A report from the IRS shows that America’s top 400 wealthiest income-tax payers — the Fortunate 400 — “now control 1.15% of the nation’s income — twice the share they controlled in 1995. Over the same period, however, the average income tax paid by this same group has fallen from 30% to 18%. That’s due mainly to the Bush tax cuts.” McCain wants more of the same.

* TP: “[Yesterday], a bipartisan group of 14 senators introduced a bill ‘to stop regulators from easing media-ownership rules in the nation’s 20 largest cities.’ The 32-year old ban — whose loosening is being pushed by Bush’s FCC chairman — is meant to ‘keep major media companies from monopolizing newspapers and broadcasters in their market.'”

* I genuinely wonder sometimes if watching Fox News can make someone dumber: “On America’s Newsroom, while discussing a video clip of Sen. Hillary Clinton drinking a beer on the campaign plane, Bill Hemmer asked Fox News’ ‘body language expert’ Tonya Reiman: ‘[I]s that an honest moment, a moment of levity?’ Reiman replied: ‘You know, the only thing that struck me as odd is, she’s holding the beer with her left hand, and she’s a righty. And if you think about how you would normally take a sip, it’s a little bit awkward to drink with your nondominant hand, unless you have a reason to be doing that.'”

* Remember that White House press conference from five years ago tonight?

* Good post on the latest nonsense from global warming deniers.

* There’s been quite a bit of talk about whether the Clinton campaign intentionally darkened Obama’s skin tone for one of its ads. I’m not sure what to think of the controversy, but it’s drawing some pretty close scrutiny.

* And Dan Froomkin had an interesting observation today: “You’ll never guess who was the most excited about yesterday’s endorsement. As of this writing, there’s no mention of it on the home page of McCain’s Web site. There’s no mention of it all on the Republican National Committee’s home page. In fact, I can’t find any mention whatsoever of the event on either Web site at all. (It’s like: Bush Who?) But on the Democratic National Committee Web site, the lead headline blares: ‘Bush Endorses John McCain as His Successor.’ ‘Since the event was held in the middle of the afternoon we fear that some Americans may miss George Bush’s assurances that John McCain would continue the Bush Administrations failed economic and foreign policies,’ the DNC explains. ‘As a public service we’ve posted a video of the press conference for voters to see.'”

Anything to add? Consider this an end-of-the-day open thread.

It feels like Obama is doing a sort of Ned Lamont type disappearing act lately. Is the press just ignoring him? Is he reloading? What’s going on?

  • I genuinely wonder sometimes if watching Fox News can make someone dumber:

    I guess being on Fox News defines you as dumb (though I was on it once in the very beginning). How tough is it to sip a drink with you non-dominant hand? I’m doing it now…

  • Oops, forgot to close the italics. Maybe it had to do with drinking left-handed.

  • Dale @1,

    I suspect that he’s doing more regional/local stuff in the states with upcoming elections. Nevertheless, that is a good question. He’s clearly got funds to make his case with voters, so now I would guess he needs to mount a charm offensive with the media. Probably wouldn’t hurt to stage a few more rallies with Oprah and company…

  • * Good news from the Hill: “After more than a decade of struggle, the House on Wednesday passed a bill requiring most group health plans to provide more generous coverage for treatment of mental illnesses, comparable to what they provide for physical illnesses….

    Whether this is good news or bad news depends on your circumstances. If you have health insurance from a company with 50 or more employees, it’s good news. If you work for a smaller firm or are self-insured, you get to pay for the people in category A.

    Also the NYT reports, “Typical annual limits include 30 visits to a doctor or 30 days of hospital care for treatment of a mental disorder. Such limits would no longer be allowed if the insurer had no limits on treatment of conditions like cancer, heart disease and diabetes.

    My guess is that many whose insurance have no limits on treatment for these diseases, will now.

  • * Good news from the Hill: “After more than a decade of struggle, the House on Wednesday passed a bill requiring most group health plans to provide more generous coverage for treatment of mental illnesses, comparable to what they provide for physical illnesses…. ‘Illness of the brain must be treated just like illness anywhere else in the body,’ said Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California. Supporters of the House bill, including consumer groups and the American Psychiatric Association, said it would be a boon to many of the 35 million Americans who experience disabling symptoms of mental disorders each year.” Who pays for this? See, this is the kind of over-regulation that has caused the huge increase in health care costs. Yeah, private insurance will experience an increase in costs; and pass them (and the profit markups) on to their customers. And then Dems will demagogue the high cost of insurance they just forced the insurance companies, and us, in order to promote their nanny-state socialist health system. Nice.

    Which leads into the next item.

    * More discouraging economic news: “Home foreclosures soared to an all-time high in the final quarter of last year and are likely to keep on rising, underscoring the suffering of distressed homeowners and the growing danger the housing meltdown poses for the economy. ‘Clearly it’s the worst it’s been,’ chief association economist Doug Duncan said in an interview with The Associated Press.” And now, Pelosi and the Dems are going to want to make things worse with the previous item. Those economic issues people think the Dems are so great on? I’d never say it, because it isn’t true, and has never been true. They just have more of their media promote the lies.

  • “After more than a decade of struggle, the House on Wednesday passed a bill requiring most group health plans to provide more generous coverage for treatment of mental illnesses, comparable to what they provide for physical illnesses…

    Now if they’d do the same thing for disability insurance. Mine runs out in June.

  • Illness of the brain must be treated just like illness anywhere else in the body,’ said Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California.

    Now you can go get that treatment you so desperately need, SteveIL. Nice.

  • The natural reaction to seeing posts about bombings and home foreclosures is to comment on the Fox News item, of course.

    I’m a lefty. I almost never hold a glass or bottle in my left hand. I hold it in my right so that my dominant hand can hold a fork, a spatula, a bottle opener, a pencil, whatever. I can’t imagine how anyone would do otherwise, but I wouldn’t psychoanalyze them if they did otherwise.

  • Obama and crew are in Chicago, planning out the next stages.

    Which reminds me.
    When the Barack folks comb the various liberal threads looking for ideas:

    1) Read David Brin.
    http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2008/03/issues-that-obama-cant-ignore-national.html

    2) In regards to Brin’s various points: It is time to shift the focus from Clinton’s trash talking.
    Suggestion: Make any one of Brin’s points a new central thrust. Let Clinton oink her negative shit. She is dying a slow and ugly death and has no other recourse but to curse at the sharp spit that is her future. And yes of course: rebound the pig’s feces back at her as fast as she throws it. But… it is time for you folks pull the rug and rearrange the furniture on that bearded sow…

    3) Regarding the “know the facts” pages on the Obama web site:
    I want to see rezko addressed with everything you got. Which is to say, having read this:
    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/03/05/rezko/index.html
    and considering that Josh Marshall pushed this story up your asses right before Texas and Ohio; you’ve got to kick back hard. Yeah… I know, Josh is a Clinton shill, and that the thought of Bill gives him an erection…. Still, his muck should be a warning shot across your bow. Kill this rezko shit. Release everything you got on your website. Now.

  • A fairly well-known survey done a few years back (IIRC, it was done by a University of Maryland-affiliated group in 2003 or 2004) proved conclusively that watching Faux News Channel does make you dumber.

    IIRC, the survey included a short quiz that consisted of true-or-false questions like “Saddam Hussein helped plan 9/11” and “The U.S. found WMDs in Iraq shortly after it invaded Iraq.” The survey also asked participants to name the one media source they most relied on for political and current-events news.

    Those persons who admitted that FNC was their main source of news info scored lower than all other groups.

  • Over on another thread, beans gave a link (i’ll put it at the end).

    In Pennsylvania and from sea to shining sea, Obama should be hammering Sen Clinton’s connection to Monsanto. I’ve seen the connection made elsewhere (Counterpunch twice), but it has never gotten any traction. Most of you probably won’t be surprised to hear that Mark Penn is tangled up in the Clinton/Monsanto web. The diary, somewhat falsely, gives the impression that President Clinton was responsible for the rise of GMO agriculture; in fact, the H.W. Bush administration decided that it was just fine, move long…nothing to see here. But Clinton did basically put Monsanto in charge of the FDA.

    Sen Clinton’s agriculture plans feature Monsanto (giving help to farmers who promise to plant Monsanto GMO crops). And she is on record calling them a “Democratic company”. Yes, the makers of agent orange…the folks who are working hard to privatize water…the folks responsible for millions of suicides in India…the folks who may, in fact, now control 80% of the world’s food source…the folks who feed you pesticides at the molecular level in just about everything you eat…the folks who sue farmers because someone dropped some Monsanto seed on the road, it grew, and cross-pollinated with their crops…the folks who regularly snoop on private property to check the genetic lineage of plants…the folks who sue farmers for saving seed (10,000 years of tradition vs. intellectual property rights)…the folks who designed these genetically modified plant forms, but cannot control them. Good Democratic people those Monsanto executives, yes.

    As an aside, GMO crops have spread much more rapidly than predicted. Bt markers have shown up in parts of Mexico where Monsanto corn has never been planted, hundreds of miles from the nearest planting. To make sure that nobody saves their patented seed, they are introducing the “Terminator” gene. A plant with that gene cannot produce viable seed. Now if Terminator escapes as easily as Bt escaped, we could watch evolution come to a crashing halt in a matter of a few years. (A further aside, the US government is a partner patent holder with Monsanto for the Terminator gene.)

    Ok, enough gloom and doom. In Pennsylvania, the ruling that made it illegal for dairy farmers to advertise that their milk does not contain bovine growth hormone was overturned recently. Monsanto is not happy…yes, of course they own bovine growth hormone, who else would?

    Obama needs to get out and talk to farmers, it ain’t exactly the average liberal demographic, but these folks are facing life and death. One candidate is in the back pocket of death…the other should make it clear that he stands for life. The life of the American family farm and the life of Americans who eat food.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/6/12851/87143

    Please read it, please think about it. Halliburton ain’t shit compared to the evil that is Monsanto. And sorry for the novel…

  • Is it any wonder that the Zealots and True Believers of free-market capitalism are forever seeing “pure” capitalism (i.e., one based solely on industry self-regulatory Codes of Good Practice which unwittingly excuses cartel behaviour and worse) as the Last and Only Hope for the Lower Classes to Empower Themselves–unaware of the potential consequences such could carry?

  • In case you missed it Hillary Clinton endorsed McCain over Obama once again. She’s starting to sound more like Bush everyday.

    In a Cabinet-style setting, surrounded by retired military leaders, Sen. Hillary Clinton said the public should ask whether Democratic presidential rival Barack Obama has met the criteria needed to become the nation’s commander in chief.

    “I think that since we now know Sen. (John) McCain will be the nominee for the Republican Party, national security will be front and center in this election. We all know that. And I think it’s imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold,” the New York senator told reporters crowded into an infant’s bedroom-sized hotel conference room in Washington.

    “I believe that I’ve done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you’ll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy,” she said.

    This is the last straw for me . I was willing to vote for her (holding my nose) should she eventually win the nomination but after to days statement I will sit out the Presidential election rather then vote for someone willing to torpedo the Dems to further her personal ambition. Screw her.

  • The following quote from Dubya’s press conference today is a great example of why I would never last long as a member of the White House Press Corps since everyone knows how hard it is to survive a bout of suppressed laughter:

    This war against these extremists and radicals who would do us harm is the great ideological struggle of our time. We’re in a battle with evil men — I call them evil because if you murder the innocent to achieve a political objective, you’re evil.
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/03/print/20080306-4.html

    Say another prayer tonight for sane leadership in 2009… please.

  • Lex, thank you for that. I always enjoy reading your stuff.

    I have been questioning whether the GMOs are affecting the bees. With no bees, there is no plant food.

    Monsanto is indeed a scorn on the earth.

    Famine: one of the four horsemen.

  • In the pantheon of his presidential failures, the utter inability of former Texas oilman George W. Bush to influence OPEC and the price of oil stands out as the most predictable – and ironic. Just one day after OPEC members rejected President Bush’s call to boost crude production, oil jumped to the stratospheric level of $105 a barrel. This latest indignity caps seven years without results for the man who once boasted he would “jawbone” his friends in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia into opening the spigots.

    For the details, see:
    “Jawbone of an Ass: Bush’s Utter Failure with OPEC.”

  • Dale and MsJoanne, thank you for the kind words.

    As for GMO’s and the bees…that all depends on who you ask. If you ask the government, they say “no”. If you ask the bee keepers, you get a somewhat different story.

    Realistically, CCD is probably a combination of factors that include mono-cropping, stress on the bees (they get trucked all over the country), and pesticides. There is a great deal of worry about the latest generation of pesticides: the neo-nicotinoids. GMO’s are certainly not helping matters.

    Bt crops are the most prevalent. Bt (Bacillus thuingiensis) is a bacterial disease. It is a common, organic pesticide (Dippel Dust by Fertilome is one Bt product). But it is a pesticide. Generally, it kills worms and life miners, but it’s hard to say its what affect it might have on other organisms…including humans…especially when it is present in every cell in the plant.

    We’ll find out though, Monsanto is running its long term tests on the bees, the yous, and the mees. I guess that is rather “democratic” after all…

  • I wouldn’t trust anything Monsanto had to say.

    If they said the world was going to end in 10 years, you would know we’d be gone in one.

    Same with the downer cows. Why did we hear about it? Why the recall? Hmmm…no e.coli anywhere. Could that mean Mad Cow but they don’t want to out and out say so?

    The only meat I eat now is lamb and I am going to buy a freezer and buy only from the farmer/ranchers that you linked me to the other day, Lex. Thanks again for that. Once farming season starts again, it’s full coop from those same people.

    I am done with trusting the food we buy at the store. The government does nothing to protect us so we have to take measures.

    If only all the major conglomerates would go under. If only we knew what we don’t have a fraction of a clue about.

    WE are their experiment.

  • The recent arrest of international arms dealer Viktor Bout is a victory for the US, who arrested him in Thailand in a sting operation, and for that matter the rest of the world that suffered at the hands of the conflicts this guy armed. But there are two great ironies to this story:

    1.) Bout armed both the Taliban and al Qaeda, among other groups, and his arrest came as the result of solid police investigative work, not sending in the damn army to invade a nation. John Kerry caught a huge a mount of grief in the 2004 race for saying that police work will keep us safer against terrorism but was defeated by hawks who said that attitude was for pussies. Bout’s arrest should make the world a little safer, but the Iraq war still does not.
    2.) Bout has the same attitude toward guns as the NRA: guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Yet the US and the world recognized a point to where more weapons mean more problems. I’m no gun control freak, but I do recoil at the fact that some of the same military grade armaments that Bout was using to arm bloody civil wars and international conflicts can also be legally purchased in the US and for what purpose? Why is it we can go after Bout and Saddam for their weapons and the NRA says nothing but closing gun show loopholes are off limits?

  • Yeah… I know, Josh is a Clinton shill, and that the thought of Bill gives him an erection

    You know, I have tried and tried to figure out where this comes from. As a strong Obama supporter, and someone with a well-developed Hollywood B.S. detctor, I keep looking at what’s there at TPM trying to see this, and I just don’t. I’ll plead guilty, I actually know Josh, and like him a lot, but if I saw what you are talking about, I would be right up there pointing it out. If there’s anything I’ve been able to detect, its that the truth is likely the opposite to what you say. But I can’t point to anything there that would prove that point, either. Josh is a guy who started out as a liberal hawk in 2003, who has consistently had the intellectual honesty to keep poking for the truth and admitting when he’s been mistaken.

    Sorry, TPM is the one place I go where I know both Obama and Clinton folks will be screaming about something there. Which means to me that TPM deserves its Peabody Award, for being an old-fashioned bunch of actual journalists.

    I will even go so far as to say I think Josh Marshall is the logical successor to Bill Moyers when (perish the thought!) Moyers finally retires for real and final. I notice Moyers seems to think the same, from the way he treats TPM.

  • The recent arrest of international arms dealer Viktor Bout is a victory for the US

    Yeah, sure. Maybe they’ll ask him what happened to those planeloads of AK-47s they hired him to fly to Iraq. You know, the ones that he “lost.” This long after Lord of War had publicly outed him for the scumbag arms dealer that he is. The guy who, more than anyone but Charles Taylor himself, is responsible for the horrors of Sierra Leone and the armies of child soldiers in that part of Africa. The fact is that the Thai police got him. Lord of War is not a fairy tale. Nicolas Cage’s character, in the end , gets sprung by the US government because, he says, that govt needs people like him to deal in the weapons that they can’t openly deal in for diplomatic reasons. If you think that sounds far-fetched, ask yourself why that same government would hire him to shuttle planeloads of small arms for them even after Lord of War had exposed him to the world.

    Let’s not get up on our high horse now and talk about how great our government is to have nailed this guy. They’ve been his greatest enablers for years. There’s a lot of blood on America’s hands here.

  • ‘Illness of the brain must be treated just like illness anywhere else in the body,’ said Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California. Pelosi doesn’t mind seeing this increased cost to our insurance premiums since she doesn’t have to pay for them. Other health care items San Fran Nan proposes, however, may include some perks:

    On Aug. 2, Pelosi (D-Calif.) reintroduced the Early Treatment for HIV Act, a bill that could boost Medicaid coverage of HIV-related drugs, including Procrit, which is manufactured by Amgen and marketed by a subsidiary of Johnson & Johnson,…

    Isn’t she a dear? How thoughtful, how compassionate, how concerned….how she adds to her and hubby’s bank accounts. Let’s finish the above sentence, shall we? [emphasis mine}

    On Aug. 2, Pelosi (D-Calif.) reintroduced the Early Treatment for HIV Act, a bill that could boost Medicaid coverage of HIV-related drugs, including Procrit, which is manufactured by Amgen and marketed by a subsidiary of Johnson & Johnson, a firm in which Pelosi’s husband owns at least $250,000 in stock, according to Pelosi’s disclosure forms.

    Just think of how the increase in revenues for Amgen and Johnson & Johnson, paid from our tax dollars, will turn that $250,000 in stock to…oh…a lot more. And I’m sure Mr. and Mrs. Pelosi will figure out a way so that if the stock gets sold, there will be no investigation of insider trading, nor any tax implications since the proceeds will be buried in a tax dodge, thus allowing Mr. and Mrs. Pelosi to receive their gains and not actually have to pay any taxes…for things like…Medicaid. Sweet deal.

    It gets better:

    The legislation could also extend to HIV drugs Prezista and Intellence, manufactured by a Johnson & Johnson subsidiary.

    More good news for the Pelosi family finances.

    But we’re told it is all on the up-and-up:

    The legislation is about far more than any single drug, Pelosi’s press secretary, Drew Hammill, told Cybercast News Service in a written statement.

    “This bill will allow millions of Americans living with HIV access to treatment before they develop full-blown AIDS,” Hammill said. “This bill is simply about Medicaid eligibility. It has nothing to do with which specific medications state Medicaid programs choose to cover.”

    Of course it doesn’t. But it doesn’t hurt the Pelosi bank account either, does it? Nor San Fran Nan’s campaign coffers:

    On July 27, 2007, 28 executives of the Thousand Oaks, Calif., pharmaceutical firm Amgen contributed more than $20,000 to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) campaign.

    And:

    In addition to the 28 separate contributions Pelosi received last July from Amgen, seven other contributions were made by executives in the months of July and August, for a total of $30,050 to Pelosi’s re-election campaign. Also, AmgenPAC (political action committee) gave Pelosi’s campaign a total of $10,000 last year.

    How conveeeenient.

    Let’s do the math:

    * 28 contributions to San Fran Nan’s campaign coffers from Amgen executives – $20,000
    * 7 contributions from other Amgen executives to San Fran Nan’s campaign coffers – $10,050
    * AmgenPAC contribution to San Fran Nan’s campaign coffers – $10,000
    * Pelosi ownership of Johnson & Johnson stock – currently valued at $250,000

    That’s nearly $300,000 for the Pelosi family. But that’s alright; ethics, conflicts of interest, and potential criminality don’t matter as long as Pelosi sticks to “the message”. Because she’s only concerned about “the peeeeople“. Oh, and her bank accounts.

    “After more than a decade of struggle, the House on Wednesday passed a bill requiring most group health plans to provide more generous coverage for treatment of mental illnesses, comparable to what they provide for physical illnesses…. ‘Illness of the brain must be treated just like illness anywhere else in the body,’ said Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California. Supporters of the House bill, including consumer groups and the American Psychiatric Association, said it would be a boon to many of the 35 million Americans who experience disabling symptoms of mental disorders each year.”

    I wonder how much they contributed to San Fran Nan’s campaign coffers? Well, if Nancy wants this, she can pay for it. She has the money.

  • Tom…

    You may be right. Or like you say, you may be wrong. If I could go back and edit my comment I’d probably edit it out. Still I had reasons for slipping it in.

    Partly it is the rezko piece he ran on election’s eve. It’s headline included something akin to: “unanswered questions about rezko.” But there weren’t any unanswered questions in the piece. At least no clearly bulleted list. I wanted: THIS and THIS is what we need to know. But that is not there. And if you followed my link to the Glen Greenwald piece, you understand that ballyhooing rezko is like topping-off the slime machine with jet fuel. Why did Josh run it just then? And why with that slippery slope of a header?

    Up until last night his site totally ignored Clinton’s experiential embrace of McCain. Her comments simply weren’t considered newsworthy. Although if Barack had said it (like his “Reagan had ideas” verbiage) I have a sneaky suspicion it would have been considered newsworthy.

    Then… there was the headline about a tie in the popular vote between Clinton and Barack.
    So many people pointed out the mathematical stupidity of that, that someone actually re-edited the homepage’s headline to read: virtual tie if you include MI and Fl. But why would they even include MI? When he gets 0 and she gets everything else? Obviously: That’s bending reality to fit some inner need…

    Then there was the free pass he gave Bill on the Khayzakstan uranium deal:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html?ex=1359608400&en=8ba93680397669fd&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink
    All ex-presidents do it. Huh? Really since when? Bush 41?

    Then there was the moment when he showed his Bill Clinton bonafides and wistfully wished he could vote for Bill again. Huh? Come again? Didn’t Josh just spend a month slapping Rudy around on Shag fund? Different moral standards for different candidates? I think not.

    I could go on… but there seems to be enough, in Marshall vernacular, drip drip drip there…
    But again: I could be wrong.
    I could be combing things a little too finely here.

    The reason why I made the comment is a pile-up of

  • Yeah… I know, Josh is a Clinton shill, and that the thought of Bill gives him an erection

    You know, I have tried and tried to figure out where this comes from. As a strong Obama supporter, and someone with a well-developed Hollywood B.S. detctor, I keep looking at what’s there at TPM trying to see this, and I just don’t.

    Same here. I’ve heard this too, but I just don’t see it either.

  • Here’s Josh today. Doesn’t sound like a Clinton shill.

    Hillary Clinton seems to think she’s a strong contender in this latter category [of having actual experience in foreign policy]. But that’s a joke. She’s starting her second term in the US senate, where, yes, she serves on the Armed Services committee. Beside that she’s never held elective office and she has little executive experience. I think she can argue that she’d make and would make a strong commander-in-chief. But she’s pushing a metric by which she’s little distinguishable from Barack Obama. I’m honestly surprised she’s not drawing chuckles on this one.

    A lot of people are seeing red that Hillary’s so aggressively pushing the Republican nominee’s credentials to be president. And I can see their point. But I’m more surprised that she’s pushing an argument she doesn’t need to make and frankly can’t make credibly.

  • MsJoanne @24,

    That’s super news. You will be so glad that you did. I won’t lie, it may be a little more expensive…but it will be worth it. Just wait until you crack your first real egg. You’ll wonder why they call the ones at the grocery store “eggs” at all.

    And you’ll be putting your hard earned money in the pockets of real people. You’ll also have the pride of knowing that every time you make a food purchase, you’re wrapping your fingers around the neck of Monsanto and its ilk. Starve the beast before it starves us.

  • As long as I’m filling up the comment thread:

    SurveyUSA has done state-by-state matchups for general election contests between Obama-McCain and Clinton-McCain:

    http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/surveyusa_hillary_and_obama_wi.php

    And Chris Bowers has looked at the data a little more deeply:

    http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4374

    The short version is that both Obama and Clinton would today beat McCain in the general, with Obama by a slightly higher margin of electoral votes. But as Bowers shows, Obama would do it without breaking a sweat, while Clinton would run neck-and-neck with McCain down to the wire.

  • TR…

    I am not interested in parsing Josh Marshall too much more. I agree my use of the word “shill” is overheated. Marshall is trying to be fair. What I am arguing rather substantially (see my new post @ 29) is that his true passion for the Clintons seeps into, and contaminates his overt attempts at objectivity.

    Along with that more modertate opinon…
    I will have a little fun with your cut and paste of Marshall:

    A lot of people [Just not me; remember, I’ve been ignoring this for 3 days] are seeing red that Hillary’s so aggressively pushing the Republican nominee’s credentials to be president. And I can see their point [Well not really, but I couldn’t ignore it any longer, my threads are screaming it, and I am losing credibility here fast]. But I’m more surprised [Maybe they will buy this load of triangulating bullshit] that she’s pushing an argument she doesn’t need to make and frankly can’t make credibly.

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