Tracking poll shows Obama rebounding after race speech

When I first viewed the rev. Wright “soundbites” I tried to be objective but still came away thinking he was another of the Falwell/Robertson/Hagee brand of minister, The only difference being the vitriol was over racism and not the usual right wing stuff.

Then I actually watched the full videos of the sermons the soundibtes where snipped from and I have to say that context takes nearly all the controversy away.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TRINITYCHGO

The poll I would be interested in seeing – though I don’t know if one has been done – would be among voters who had ALREADY voted for Obama in caucuses and primaries. Would the NOW change their minds and wish they hadn’t voted for Obama?

I am ever more for Obama after his speech. I want THAT face shining out into the world as our new spokesman. I want the world to know we’re “open for business” again after eight long, long years.

It goes without saying that if he and the Rev. Wright had never crossed paths, the last week would have been a lot easier for Obama. However, if Obama numbers return to their pre-Wright levels, it will show just how tough a politician he really is. As soon as I heard that Obama was going to address the Wright matter (and race issues in general) in a speech, I was sure that he could survive this MSM-manufatured “scandal.” The point isn’t that Obama gave a good speech, the point is that when confronted with something that would have surely torpedoed a lesser candidate, Obama rose to the occassion. Remarkably, he challenged the American public to listen to his take on Wright and to understand why he would not disown his former pastor. Perhaps even more remarkably, it seems that at least some of the American public have actually listened to what he has to say.

We can sit around and prognosticate about race and it’s impact on Obama’s candidacy all we want to, but what we need to be talking about is the lack diversity in the media coverage of this election. I don’t put much credence in what’s being said on cable news networks that have assigned mostly white political teams to coverage of this election. When you look at the three main cable news networks – CNN, MSNBC and Fox News – white men dominate the poltical coverage, particularly the talk shows. In fact, I counted at least eight shows across the three networks that are hosted by white men. What about women, African-Americans, Asians and Latinos? White women, at least, are visible in poltical coverage and as anchors, but the ethnic groups mentioned are largely missing in action – with the exception of a few political pundits that occasionally surface on the cable networks airwaves. To me, this is abysmal.
What’s more, it’s hard to get a good perspective when the majority of commentators are white males and the don’t even acknowledge their biases. It’s rather disingenious to hear their critique of the world when it’s their view of the world.
It’s easy to dissect every word from Senator Obama, but even the hosts of the cable talk shows – mainly white men – fumble in their speech, some often getting major facts and details wrong, yet they
Maybe what can come out of this is that African-Americans and other people of color will be allowed to hosts shows on the cable news networks and provide a more balanced view on race and politics. We certainly could use more people of color reporting from the field.
Diversity affects the news. It affects how we see and how we think. I think it’s time we get the chance to look at the world through a different lens..

Phoebes, I think a poll like that would be interesting too but I think that when people are really sold on a person they’d have to do something really really awful for people to turn their backs on them. You know? I think a lot of Obama supporters were able to put the Wright thing in context even though Fox and other media outlets tried to make a big deal about it. Then he gave that speech and just reinforced his supporters’ will. But that’s just my guess.

Ed saved me a trip to merriamwebster.com, as well. I hope that Obama’s rebound is real and lasting.

Do you care about your privacy, reproductive, sexual orientation and other civil libertarian rights?

The Dems need to win the Presidency in 2008 or you can forget about it.

The Dems should also be able to win several more Senate (very important for Judiciary selections) and House seats, governor races and other local elections.

Hillary and Bill are willing to sacrifice your civil rights for their remote chance at their third term.
They have been utterly reckless by enhancing and legitimizing John McCain, and thus the Republican agenda on civil rights, Middle East war and tax breaks for the rich.

They have betrayed the Democratic Party and the Public’s interests as they did during their first eight years with triangulation, corruption, gross political mismanagement and lack of leadership resulting in massive defeats for Democrats at the polls, Newt Ginrich, etc. etc.

Superdelegates must get them out of this race NOW.

Do you care about your civil rights??

My Friend, yes, that’s what i’d assume such a poll would show, too!

Bunker (#7): “Could be just what the doctor ordered!”

I agree wholeheartedly, and I’m a doctor (just not that kind of doctor).

Evergreen (#9) and TuiMel (#12), I didn’t indicate pronunciation. It’s BOH-lied. It’s from Latin bolis, bolid-, kind of meteor, from Greek, missile, flash (of lightning), from ballein, to throw. It just dawned on me that I think I can still remember the conjugation: Balló, Balléis, Balléi, Bállomen, Bállete, Bállontai (God knows where that was hiding in my medulla).

Happy Easter to all for whom that is meaningful.

I am totally disgusted. I just learned of a blog about Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Trinity Church called http://truthabouttrinity.blogspot.com and I feel as though I can no longer trust my favorite news sources CNN and MSNBC. Apparently, the endless loop of *hate* from Rev. Wright was a quote from a *white* US Ambassador named Peck and the rest of the sermon was logical, insightful and, get this, *loving* (albeit passionate). I am so disgusted with the American media, I expect this from Fox, but not CNN and MSNBC. I now, actually feel sorry for Rev. Wright, as he is being dumped on for purely political gain. Somehow, I don’t think God is going to like this.

Please visit http://truthabouttrinity.blogspot.com/ and you will probably feel as disgusted and misled as I do. I am posting here because I feel responsible for helping to get the truth out!

To continue with my first email. The U.S. mainstream media are amazingly quiet on the issue of the Naftagate scandal. In light of the Reverand Wright issue I believe the American people should be made aware of what is a concerted campaign to tarnish Senator Obama’s reputation in order to try and undo the massive support he is receiving. I urge everyone, no matter which candidate they support to demand honesty and accountability in how they conduct their campaigns. The type of leader you choose will act in power exactly how he or she acts in the primaries. It is in Canada’s and all other nations’ interest to see a real change in the government of United States. The whole world is watching.

I guess that I am missing something here. Obama is running on government transpanancy and on his “judgment”. He has been aware of Rev Wright’s comments and it was not “good judgment” to withhold or not discuss it with American’s. That is not being transparent…………..or showing good judgment. And knowing these comments and continuing to attend his services ……every Sunday for 20 years………….does not show good judgement. These inflamatory statements are not ones that I would allow my children to listen to and he is half white/half black. These comments are insulting and this is the man that is your spiritual mentor. You credit this man with your success? I don’t want to imagine what kind of people we would choose for cabinet members. I was an avid Obama supporter, but I WILL NOT support this man in a general election. I will vote for McCain first. This does go towards HIS creditability. AND, we are urging that the passport security be looked into, only to find that the CEO of the company is an OBAMA supporter and briefs him on foreign policy and intelligence issues? What is wrong with this picture? We continue to find out alarming facts about Obama that directly point to the fact that he is no better than any other Washington politician. Perhaps the American people should look beyond pretty speeches and into facts before voting for someone that has flaws. But we continue to voice opposition to the Clinton’s and how they are such flawed politicians. What exactly is this issue with Obama. In my opinion I would rather have some caught with another woman that spending time and having someone mentor me and my family that has heavy RACIAL tones. And not “tones of change” or “tones of unity” those are tones of racism that should not be uttered in a church.

libra- Obama gave a great speech on the subject of religon in the US. It was finally what I had hoped to here from a candidate: that the U.S. Is Not, Was Not, and will Never Be a “christian nation”. He expresses passion for tolerance of all views on reliogon and spiritualism, including *gasp* atheism, and promoted the fact that it is this tolerance that has made this country great. After hearing it, I believe it is as good as, if not better than, the speech he just gave on race.

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Obama_Talks_About_Atheism

‘Scuse me, in my comment at #28, I meant to say my neighbor is a white male. Sorry.

Virginia, I have several worries. Let’s list them:

– Botch/Cheney won’t allow elections, or.

– They will steal them (see http://www.blackboxvoting.org ), or,

– IF they somehow manage to not steal the elections, depending upon who wins, they will have some major event allowing them to call martial law and not transition to the president elect, or,

– God forbid, they will assassinate Obama.

This whole secret service problem at several of his rallys was probably a test.

Sounds far out, but does anyone put it past these criminals?

MsJoanne, I share many of your worries and have had every one of your thoughts (fears?) myself at one time or another. I’m very worried that this year’s October Surprise will be a doozey.

Obama is rebounding and people are voting against Clinton to with their pocketbooks. Maybe this will give her the message she needs to get out of the race.

Geez, the trolls are up late tonight.

Notice a pattern?

Well, there’s always a first time to not vote Democrat. Everybody is talking about one of Pastor Wright’s sermons being just a quote from a white ambassador, while the truth is that there have been dozens of hate-filled sermons. If it had just been one of them, Obama wouldn’t have “strongly condemned” his pastors’ remarks. But Obama has figured a way to get some spin on it – just say he has heard some of his pastors’ wrong remarks, but don’t say exactly what he heard, and let his shills come out with a lie, a claim that the whole thing is just a quote from a white ambassador. Don’t answer the questions about the life-time achievement award for Louis Farrakhan for all his hate-mongering, racist, kill or enslave all the whites, convert every one else to Islam, destroy Israel speeches. Compare your Pastor preaching hate-filled anti-American sermons to your white Grandmother making racist comments that bothered you, and say that she’s typical of all white Americans. In desperation, tell Gov Richardson that you really need his endorsement now – what’d Obama offer for that distraction, the VP slot?
Arrange for one of your campaign advisors to engineer an illegal break in to your passport file, to distract people and to get a little favorable publicity. While you’re at it, they can grab a look at Hillary’s and McClain’s files, as well. That way, you’ve got the dope on them, but can say “Hey, it was renegade, look, they did my file too.” Or did they simply remove something?
And of course count on your followers not to see what a racist you are.
As for me, I’m from Florida. After years, we finally convinced our legislators that we wanted a primary that counted – even if we only got half the delegates, we would rather get half as many delegates that counted as double the delegates after the race had been decided or after the candidates we wanted had been knocked out by earlier primaries. Democrats believe that every one has a right to have their vote count, but the so-called Democrats in Washington and the candidates made a deal to punish us for fighting for our rights. And I’m truly surprised at the number of so-called Democrats here who are willing to condemn us for our choice, and to go along with the dirty politics. The only way for Obama to win Florida in November? Do the honorable thing now, while it would seem to hurt him, apologize for his earlier sin on our vote, and demand that at least half the Florida delegates be seated, to vote as we directed them in our primary.

Ms Jo, you make me LMAO!!

Earballs!! I learned a new word too!

My son, 21, and I are already making plans to be in Washington in January. Never been to an inauguration (and I know I know, I’m really trying to stem this case of crrrrazy optimism) but this one I will not miss. I’ve waited so long.

Card-carryin’ cultist here and proud of it!

The guys on the secret circus protective details are generally pretty competent. They are unlikely to allow any sort of republican party political assisination. I don’t doubt that there are folks both within and outside this administration that have thought such thoughts. I can’t imagine the guys on the details going along with it. They’re cops.

I don’t much care for Obama’s religiosity. I’d like to hear the speech where he tells us that there will be no more “faith based initiatives”. I’d like to hear that policy will be based on real science, no more religion, dogma or corporate junk science. I’d like to be sure that the schools will teach science and not dogma. I also don’t much care for the idea of electing another member of our heriditary aristocracy. In November I will vote the principle that the possible worst progressive is far preferable to the best possible republican – if there is such a thing.

I’ll never forget having to endure hearing my homeroom teacher read “Pilgrim’s Progress” before each day started. Such was my public school in 1968 North Carolina. From experiences like this and from being raised Southern Baptist, and from being condemned for abandoning the crap early on, I will never set foot in any church again as long as live. I equate zealotry with madness.

I hope there’s a backlash so large these fanatics will soon be pummelled back to the Stone Age.

Religion should be as personal and private as one’s toilet habits.

oh horsehockey on all this religious business people .. be big enugh to live up to your duty as constitutional citizens and let it go .. just say to yourself what the document we base our governance contract says when it speaks to qualifications for the presidency ..

the constitution saus ..very clearly .. “no religious test shall apply” ..

now suck it up ..be good constitutional citizens and make your judgements based on something else .. it’s your fundamental duty as constitutional citizens of the republic in which you reside .. in which you live your lives ..

me and thousands of others didn’t spend our time dodging bullets in defense of the ethos of this democratic republic to afford you the luxury of behaving like idiots .. do your duty .. got that ..?? good ..

now carry on .. and tel lthe badstards “not this time” ..we will not allow ourselves to be sucked off into silly bullshit when such monumental problems face us which have to be dealt with ..too much is at stake .. the republic is at risk .. do your duty and behave as rational thinking adults .. for once ..

dammit …. don’t make me ashamed of ya .. i’ve had about all the shame i can carry .. i’d truly love to be proud of the citizens of this nation .. again .. show some grit ..some resolve .. quit letting fox noise lead you around by the nose ..

maj. Jkat … USMC[ medically retired ]….

Mary (42): Was Clinton damaged by the several days of attacks on her – first ABC then Ehrenreich’s garbage?

I think you and I are the only ones who know about the Ehrenreich article, and I wouldn’t know about it if it weren’t for you. And I don’t know what ABC thing you are refering to.

More importantly, I find this story (Obama’s rebound) a bit disturbing in that I fear the reason Obama “recovered” is because people like Chris Matthews and Jack Cafferty praised the speech, rather than because a lot of people heard it. The problem is that in October that won’t happen.

The Canadian “government” (read: Harper and his toadies)—otherwise known as the “mini-me” of the Bu$h administration—is not a thing to be trusted, as it has demonstrated numerous symptoms of “Unitary Executive Syndrome.” Fortunately, many Canadians have recognized this disease and are working to correct the problem.

As for those Americans who continue to embrace the notion of NaftaGate being an Obama “ploy,” One can only begin to wonder if the supporters of Clintonianism—and the Clintons themselves—are nothing more than “Neocons masquerading as intellectually-evolved humans.”

(What follows is long, though only a thumbnail sketch…it’s been banging around in my head for years, some of you might find it interesting…if not please scroll past)

I feel ya Glen, i cannot understand this reverence for the Clinton administration…

Was it better than what we have now? Well, obviously, but that’s like deciding that McDonald’s is gourmet, just because you’ve been living on tree bark and lichen for a while. One is better than the other, sure, but that doesn’t make it great.

I’ve had lots of issues with the Clinton administration for a long time, but my number one issue has always been its bungling of foreign policy.

The appointments of Christopher and Lake were made to keep foreign policy away from the President; he wanted nothing to do with it, and it showed. (When his hand was forced, he and most others in the administration – including St. Al – were pretty hawkish, they just didn’t have the political will to follow through on that hawkishness…especially if it might detract from the Presidential couple’s grand domestic policy dreams.)

There is nothing inherently wrong with a President who is focused on domestic issues; however, those years were an era that called for not only the break from the past that Clinton was supposed to represent, but also an innovative foreign policy.

He was the first President to truly face a world without the Soviet Union and all the implicit threats and political constraints that it contained and projected. His disinterest led him to back Yeltsin…because it was easy. Bush the Greater, it should be noted, abhorred Boris Yeltsin and was a close, personal friend of Gorbachev. Gorbachev would have been out of favor with the Russians for at least a while because his reforms had been so difficult. But Yeltsin was no democrat, nor was a revolutionary. He was the worst kind of Party apparatchik: too dull to ever get into trouble and just smart enough to see an opening and take it. We all saw the pictures of Yeltsin standing on the tank; but it wasn’t Yeltsin who stopped them…that was left to the babushkas. (If anyone can stop a Russian tank, it’s a babushka…fearsome creatures, really.) And it took the Russian people about 15 minutes to realize that they hated Yeltsin too; the man stole elections like taking candy from a baby. The Russians knew it, but Clinton kept talking about “triumphs of democracy”…even when those triumphs included shelling the Duma. The Russians knew that Yeltsin was stealing all their money too, but the bankers that Clinton wanted to impress were in on the theft and he let it pass.

Billions and billions of dollars were converted from public to private wealth in Russia, and spirited out of the country…right about the time that financial markets started soaring heavenward. How much of the financial success that Clinton gets credit for can be tied to the raping of Russia? I don’t know, but i suspect it’s a great deal more than any of us would figure.

After completing the military budget cuts that H.W. Bush wrote, nothing changed about the DoD’s budget…even without a major enemy. Granted, Clinton could not have simply hacked away at the defense budget because he wanted to. But there was a third way.

First, rather than award China MFN status, Russia would have been a better choice. (yes, i’m a Russophile, but i believe i’m on firm ground here) It would have given the Russian economy development resources and the possibility of long-term stability…tied to the US. Moreover, it would have given us a safe pipeline for resources like oil. A US-Russian trade agreement might well have broken OPEC; it certainly would have let us extricate ourselves from the Middle East to some degree. And rather than build up a giant economy (China) that is now in resource competition with us, it would have built a smaller economy that would be in resource cooperation with us.

Second, make Gorbachev the honest broker at large between the two countries. He was liked and respected by Americans…even Republican ex-presidents. And while he wasn’t liked by Russians, he was respected. Such a move would have kept people close to him (the real reformers) in the circles of power and might have allowed for his return to power when things calmed down.

Third, initiate a massive cooperation campaign based on space…an area where cooperation was already ok. I mean coming out and say, “Together with Russia, and any other nation that so chooses, we plan to build a permanent base on the moon and perhaps travel to Mars.” For starters, Russia’s science in this field has always been top notch. Pushing money into it would have developed Russia’s tech industry and provided jobs. It would also have developed significant relations between the countries below the governmental/diplomatic level.

And such a space program would have given Clinton (or whoever) an excellent back door to change the structure of our military. The same people who make the fanciest military toys also make space stuff; in effect, the military budget could be cut without removing money from the system at all. And space technology has a much quicker path to consumer markets than killing technology. Hell, he could have even upped other portions of the DoD’s budget to make up for it, concentrating on boots on the ground and giving the military a shape designed for fighting the wars it would be likely to actually fight.

That would have been a bridge to the 21st century. And the millennial generation would have grown up dreaming of becoming space cadets (instead of becoming space cadets by default) and living on the moon. He might not have been able to pull the above off exactly as stated, but had he come close…he probably would have gone down as the greatest President since Lincoln.

These so called Democrats saying they will not vote for Obama.
They had never planned on doing so in the first place. And, can see the
Rush dittoheads invading this site also.
You are right, religion should not be a factor. Of course, if the news media
had not performed their usual sensationalizing, which is still going on, this
issue would be resolved. They will not let this happen.
And, cannot understand anyone still supporting Hillary and Bill after the
way they have conducted their campaign these last few weeks. Their
only goal is to win, regardless of what they do to the Democratic Party,
distort the facts and ignore the meaning of integrity, I have lost all respect
for them.
Our country needs a change. With everyone but Barack Obama, it is going
to be politics as usual.
He really cares about our country and us.
Our country cannot let the government continue on this distructive path.
We cannot survive another four years of the republican leadership.

Since when is Sinbad an authority on foreign relations?

Someone digs up a picture of Clinton receiving flowers at an airport and it must automatically have been taken at exactly the same time and place as Clinton was discussing in her story. You people are easy. No wonder you’re supporting Obama.

OK – so the trolls did eventually descend and, BTW, Mary’s back. Has anyone else noticed that many of the messages about “Obama’s judgment shouldn’t be trusted” are all signed with a full name and city or state of origin? Maybe a few people have been given a cheat sheet for how to write a seemingly plausible comment that’s not as out to lunch as those of the more obvious trolls.

I found Pastor Wright’s comment’s distasteful and his embrace of Louis Farrakhan abhorrent. That said, trying to belittle the anger of black Americans is not only misguided, it is wrong. The worst evil the world has faced was the Nazis in World War II. Black soldiers fought and gave their lives but were not allowed to stay in the same barracks with white soldiers and were treated like third-class citizens at best. Yet, when they died, their blood was no different from their white counterparts’. They returned home to water fountains they were not allowed to drink from, restaurants they were not allowed to eat in, and had to sit in the back of the bus.

The Tuskegee episode had the American government using blacks as experimental guinea pigs. While I, too, find accusations of the government manufacturing the HIV virus to murder blacks outrageous, any black American that was taught about the Tuskegee disgrace has reason to doubt their government. Voter suppression of blacks was rampant and even as recently as the 2000 election for President there were allegations of attempts to turn away black voters. The entire world saw black bodies floating down the flooded streets of New Orleans as the federal government stood by and did nothing while the Black neighborhoods of New Orleans were destroyed. Today, in 2008, black men are still stopped at random by policemen for the sole reason they are black. A black man trying to catch a taxi in most major cities in America has a less than 50 percent chance the taxi will stop for him.

Yes, I abhor what Reverend Wright says. I am white and I am Jewish, but I still can understand his anger and the anger and doubts of most black Americans. We can criticize him all we want for hating us, but history shows his animosity is most definitely not make believe. There were wrongs that were righted and wrongs and injustice that still must be righted, but we do our country a great disservice by dismissing everything the man said as ranting and raving. We cannot move forward if we cannot understand our past, and we must embrace one another as equals and treat one another as we would like others to treat us.

the 3 cable network are so bias that it is making sick to my gut. watching cnn,fox and msnbc there is no people of color hosting these things. it is always white man presenting there opinion to the america public …in which there opinion law. is is sicken to watch, i wish the cable network would do something about orgo off the air!!!!

The below is a letter sent to a local Ft Worth newspaper regarding an impending visit from Rev Wright to receive an award.

Why Brite Divinity School is honoring the Rev. Wright
By Nancy J. Ramsay and Eugene Brice
Special to the Star-Telegram

Brite Divinity School has a long history and tradition of hosting people of different perspectives and points of view for the purpose of opening dialogue and understanding.

In the 1950s, at the dawn of the Civil Rights Movement, Brite professors Harold and Alberta Lunger and Brite student Vada Felder — the first African-American to graduate from Brite — provided hospitality to the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. in a Fort Worth not yet ready to welcome him.

Since its beginnings in 1873, Brite’s mission has been educating women and men for the ministry, witness and outreach of the Church of Jesus Christ in the world — an increasingly diverse context for ministry.

Religious leaders must be responsive to this context, and our curricular concerns include preparing our students to serve as religious leaders who know and understand the challenges posed by issues such as racial and economic injustice. Effective ministry involves an ability to recognize, confront and change these inequities in church and culture.

The divinity school includes students from 30 denominations; 26 percent of our students identify as racial-ethnic minorities. Brite not only celebrates this diversity, but relies on our Asian, Black, and Latino/a Church Studies Programs, as well as Catholic Programming and the Jewish Studies Program, to help all our students be better equipped for ministries of reconciliation and justice.

Brite’s Black Church Studies Program has as its goal “linking divine justice with social justice.” This goal reflects a central biblical theme and a long-held value in religious leadership. It certainly informs Brite’s decision to honor the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright Jr. this year on the occasion of his retirement after nearly 40 years of ministry.

The advisory board and director of our Black Church Studies Program follow a careful process to select the honoree from a roster of exemplary candidates representing a wide denominational spectrum. The selection is made in light of the candidate’s life and ministry; contributions to the church and society; and depth of theological insights and contributions to the life and legacy of the black church. Wright emerged as the clear choice for this year.

As is the case with all persons recognized by Brite, we do not endorse all of Wright’s statements, but we honor the accomplishments of a man who has had a remarkable career as an effective pastor and preacher. He has led a ministry that has touched the lives of thousands with the power of God’s love, mercy and grace.

All speeches, sermons and documents need to be understood through the setting, historical moment, issues and audience they address. Religious leadership always includes the prophetic responsibility to speak and act in behalf of God’s justice. As a religious leader, Wright’s preaching is clearly in the broad stream of scholars and preachers who stand on the biblical foundation of prophets such as Amos, Isaiah, Jeremiah and Jesus who also spoke words of God’s judgment to the political and religious community of their day.

Such prophetic preaching is especially valued in the tradition of the black church, which serves for many as the only safe place where African-Americans may speak honestly about the experience of racial injustice in this country. The righteous anger of a prophet, as shown in scripture, must not be confused with hate speech.

In the tradition of the biblical prophets, Wright is challenging forms of oppression that demean any of God’s children. He preaches regularly to persons who daily experience the stigma and oppression of racial and economic injustice that have plagued us since the earliest years of this country. As a minister of the Gospel who relies on scripture, his preaching and teaching support the dignity and worth of all people while challenging actions and policies that threaten God’s vision for peace and justice.

Wright’s career and contributions provide an excellent model of ministry and profound theological vision that ensure the ongoing legacy of the historic black church tradition. He served as pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago from 1972-2008. During this period, Trinity UCC grew from 87 adults to more than 8,700 members.

Today this south Chicago congregation provides numerous ministries ranging from Food Share programs to dance and math tutorials for youths, and small groups that benefit families and individuals. The congregation tithes its annual revenues to support other congregations, denominational missions and agencies supporting mission work in Liberia, Haiti, Ethiopia, Nigeria, Ghana, Brazil and South Africa. Trinity has also birthed four new congregations of the UCC: two in Atlanta, one in Gary, Ind., and one in Milwaukee.

In 2001, Wright was the Wells Preacher for Brite’s Ministers Week of lectures, a continuing education event that draws pastors and lay leaders from across the nation. No Wells Preacher in recent years has been better received than Wright. Unfortunately, many have not heard segments from his sermons such as the one in which he says, “I am glad I follow a God who taught me to love my enemies.”

Like the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Brite trusts in a God whose love and justice are never divided. In this spirit of Christian witness, Brite Divinity School honors and celebrates a tradition of dialogue, diversity and finding common ground.

Nancy J. Ramsay is executive vice president and dean of Brite Divinity School. Eugene Brice is retired minister of University Christian Church and a trustee of Brite Divinity School.

re: preachers being offensive ..

i think anytime they talk about the “second coming”.. without acknowledging that it will require the deaths of eight-and-a-half billion people ..they’re being offensive ..

good lawd .. jesus on a white charger .. clothed in a bloody vestment .. leading the heavely host and slaughtering all the non-christians .. blood running “bridle deep on a horse ” for two hundred miles square .. what kind of person would wish for something requiring that scale of slaughter to fulfill their “paradise on earth” ..

my gawd isn’t anywhere that vindictive or bloodthirsty ..

and .. before ya jump .. look it up eh ??

Obama supporters are living in a fantasy world if you believe this is over Tthe republicans will use it general election with swiftboat ads. As far as the media, they trashed Clnton’s endlessly since November. Also as the Rezco trial continues there will be more ammunition for the slime machine

there’s nothing to the ‘rezko thing’ .. there’s no “there” there bud .. .. except republican talking points ..

give it up dude ..there is no way hillary can win it .. and if she did get the nomination .. mc cain would trounce her in the general ..

and as an independent .. there’s no way i’m going to let them distract me from the issues confronting the country ..

one of which is becoming “how the media is being employed to improperly guide the discussion off into silly backwaters .. ” we need to bring back the equal time doctrine ..

More Clinton Hypocrisy & Distortion — Goes to Credibillity!

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I was backing Obama up until the release of everything with Rev Wright, Now I can not stand this man. I will not vote for his lies, his dis loyalty to this country, and his racist ways. I thought he was what this country needed, I WAS WRONG! I see bad things for Obama if he is elected President, I do believe we are due for an assassination, and I do not believe it will be based on that he is “black” it will be because of his lack of respect for this country, something that is far worse than the color of your skin, I know he would have been out of the race if this was shortly after 911, he would have run so quick, even before the people had anything to say. What makes now any different? We are all tired of the war in Iraq, but to disrespect those who have died during the attacks on 9 11, and those who died in the wars after the attacks. I myself am proud of our service men over there and yes I want them all to come home, but it is not as simple as Obama and even Hillary say and promise, at least Hillary is more aware of it, Obama is clueless.
I will not be voting for Obama, I will vote for Hillary if she get there, if not I will go against my party and vote for McCain. Sorry but I do not want Obama in the White House, this will be a huge Joke for the US if Obama does get it. He11 maybe he will find Osama and let him be VP, so they can hate the US together.

The next revealing is Mr. Obama is Client No. 10, but that will come out AFTER he become the nominee.