Tying McCain to Bush is the obvious move, isn’t it?

It’s hardly a secret that the Democrats’ strategy for 2008 is premised, at least in part, on tying John McCain to George W. Bush. This isn’t complicated — Bush is the least popular president since the dawn of modern polling; Americans are desperate for a change in direction; and by showing voters that McCain offers more of the same, Dems’ chances of success increase considerably. In some Democratic circles, this approach even has a name: “McSame.”

Which is why I find it odd that Sidney Blumenthal is taking the counter-intuitive position and arguing that Dems give up on this strategy and try something else.

Sidney Blumenthal, a former senior adviser to President Bill Clinton and strategist for Hillary Clinton’s Democratic presidential campaign, went “off message” (his words) today with a warning to his party: Don’t run against GOP nominee John McCain by painting him as Bush III, because he’s not.

Bucking the Democratic National Committee’s talking points that characterize a potential McCain administration as tantamount to a third Bush term, Blumenthal told our Liz Halloran that running on that strategy in the fall would be a mistake. “I understand people’s political reasons for doing that,” he said. “I think it’s more helpful to describe [political opponents] as they are.”

Bottom line, Blumenthal calls the strategy “a mistake” and adds: “The public doesn’t see [McCain] that way. That’s a hard sell.” … What hurts the presumed Republican nominee? His need, Blumenthal says, to reassure conservative Republicans about the kind of nominees he’d make to the Supreme Court.

If I understand Blumenthal’s argument, he’s saying people don’t perceive McCain as being like Bush, so Dems shouldn’t put too much effort into a pitch that people aren’t going to believe.

Blumenthal’s strategic point is not without merit. As Greg Sargent noted, Dems have a challenge on their hands given that the “media has seared the ‘McCain is a maverick’ line into the electorate’s brain for 15 years or more.” Fair enough.

But I’m still cautiously optimistic that Blumenthal’s mistaken.

There’s already some polling data showing that Bush is an albatross for McCain, and it’s seriously undermining his support. There was this NBC/WSJ poll

Sen. Barack Obama’s ties to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright could hurt his presidential hopes. So could his comment about “bitter” small-town America clinging to guns and religion. And Americans might question Sen. Hillary Clinton’s honesty and trustworthiness.

But according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, the bigger problem appears to be John McCain’s ties to President Bush.

In the survey, 43 percent of registered voters say they have major concerns that McCain is too closely aligned with the current administration.

…and this Gallup poll.

George W. Bush may do as much damage to John McCain’s chances of being elected as Jeremiah Wright does to Barack Obama’s, according to results of a recent USA Today/Gallup poll.

The May 1-3 poll finds 38% of likely voters saying McCain’s association with Bush makes them less likely to vote for McCain, while 33% say Obama’s association with Wright diminishes their likelihood of voting for Obama.

But data aside, Blumenthal’s argument seems to be based largely on the notion that public perceptions about McCain are solid and unmovable. But I can’t find any evidence to support this. Indeed, isn’t this what campaigns are for — educating the public about your strengths and your rival’s weaknesses? Changing their minds about preconceived ideas? McCain may not be perceived as a stay-the-course loyal Bushie now, but that’s all the more reason to get started.

What’s more, this shouldn’t be especially difficult. McCain really is running on a four-more-years platform. In other words, the Democrats’ attack strategy has the added benefit of being true. On everything from the economy to foreign policy to the judiciary, there is simply no daylight between Bush and McCain. Oddly enough, over the last several weeks, the two have been getting closer on their policy agreements, not further apart.

Blumenthal thinks Dems shouldn’t pursue this as a campaign strategy? Here’s to hoping the DNC doesn’t take his advice.

Yeah, because what the average voter really, really cares about it who McCain will appoint to the Supreme Court.

While that is an important point, warnings about judges your opponent might appoint is not going to win an election.

  • Let’s see, Clinton’s strategist says…

    Why should I take any thing as gospel from that source considering the crap that the so-called strategists on her side have put out so far?

    On the other hand, even a blind pig finds an acorn every so often. The Obama campaign will, no doubt, have a multi-faceted campaign strategy that will include other things such as how positive it will be to get away from the old ways of thinking. I think that worked in the primaries.

  • Blumenthal: “The public doesn’t see [McCain] that way. That’s a hard sell”

    Truth is sometimes a hard sell, Sid. The question is, do you want to keep telling the truth, or find some lie that is an easier sell?

  • I think every single ad should use the phrase “George Bush and John McCain…”. Don’t say John’s name without saying George’s name, and make sure George’s name is first to make John seem like a second fiddle doing George’s bidding.

    “George Bush and John McCain believe in an endless war. Do you agree with George Bush and John McCain?”

    Throw in a few “Dick Cheneys” and you’ve got a winner.

  • Contrary to your claim in the second sentence, I don’t think Bush is the “last popular president since the dawn of modern polling.”

    But maybe that’s just a typo.

    Anyway, I see this whole democratic primary as being about getting rid of the DLC. Sid runs with that crowd and this would seem to fall in line with their usual strategies.

    They have done more damage to the Democratic party than anything else in the last 20 years, and I can’t wait until they’re gone.

  • Is Mr. Blumenthal responsible for the direction of the Clinton campaign? Did he sign on to a campaign that injected unsubtle racial appeals into the primary campaign? Did he encourage the prevaricating (I’m being nice) about Bosnia and sniper fire? I certainly hope he was not the one who told Hillary that working late hours as a law firm associate was the same as working the graveyard shift at a factory (or anywhere else). Did he design the “new” working class (the huntin’ and drinkin’ kind) Hillary? Did he convince Hillary that she was really running for the Republican presidential nomination and should therefore give the Repugnants talking points to use against Obama? If so, then by all means, let’s drink some more kool aid. I’m sure Geraldine has a supply in her referigerator.

  • Are you kidding… McCain is falling right into place in looking like bush II…. Why would they possibly squander such a golden opportunity. Totally random: Can someone please send Joe Lieberman to the basement?

  • But maybe that’s just a typo.

    One little letter, one big difference. Thanks for catching this; it’s corrected.

  • Sid says not to compare McCain with Bush and then says “What hurts the presumed Republican nominee? His need, Blumenthal says, to reassure conservative Republicans about the kind of nominees he’d make to the Supreme Court” which are like Bush. So I think he is contradicting himself. I do get the point that when criticizing McCain one should be specific on how McCain is like Bush (abortion, war, etc.).

  • This is not only wrong, it’s atrocious spin.

    If Bluementhal was right, there’d be no point in having political campaigns. Impressions set at the start would be final. Strategy and tactics would be moot.

  • This is simply an attempt to cover for Hillary’s earlier praising of McCain as ready to be Commander in Chief, as she also claimed to be. It’s also cover for her aggressive vote and statements regarding Iran. Too close a comparison of Bush and McCain, and it’s not that different between Hillary and McCain, when it comes to foreign policy. It may also signal an intention to push her as McCain’s VP, which definitely wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

  • …and strategist for Hillary Clinton’s Democratic presidential campaign…

    Well, with a resounding bullet point like that, then by all means, let’s listen to him. What should we do instead Sydney? Suggest McCain has passed the commander in chief test and has a lifetime of experience? That should lead us to a resounding victory in November.

    A side effect from Clinton’s terribly mismanaged campaign should be that the strategists and advisers that ran it into the ground from day one should find themselves blacklisted from ever running a Democratic campaign again.

  • Voters are not stupid, we know that McCain is not Bush. McCain is moderate and bipartisan. Kerry wanted McCain on the Democratic ticket in 2004. Obama will also have trouble painting McCain as Bush and it will backfire. McCain has a teflon coat like Obama, McCain also came back from Political pergatory to become the Republican front runner.
    It doens’t matter how much money or organization Obama has, most voters have already decided and McCain will win the electoral vote count this Nov. Obama will see that it was easier beating up on a woman than on a popular Senator and war hero.

  • The American people don’t get excited about judicial appointments. Below the Supreme Court they could care less, and if they don’t think Roe vs. Wade is in trouble, they find that a bore, too.

    The only problem with tying so much of McCain to Bush is that the real referendum, which should be whether we continue with Reagan’s government-is-evil-just-put-your-trust-in-unfettered-capitalism, or throw that baby out with the sewage it created, is just lost in the metaphor. People have trouble enough voting on issues, and indeed, there should be no contest this time around, but there is, because they don’t vote on issues. They vote on whom they like, and they like McCain. So I like tying McCain to the failed ideology, rather than the failed Bush, so the lesson is retained beyond the 2008 election.

    Tying McCain to Bush is a good strategy, and could work, but that’s only one election. We need to defeat this neocon monster for a generation. Not just eke out four years. So it has to be done in a way that the public understands that we’re really voting against a failied political philosophy, not a failed president, although Bush would be a failure no matter what philosophy he represented.

  • Sydney was probably just drunk when he said that. At this point should anyone listen to anything that comes from the ashes of the vindictive Clinton campaign?

    NOT strangling McCain with George Bush would be a huge mistake. Barack Obama got the best of both Bush and McCain in the little dust up last week over Bush’s speech in Israel, and it tied them together nicely. The Democarats should make sure George Bush’s smirking face should hover over John McCain’s shoulder right up to election day.

  • I seem to remember Republicans very effectively (if dishonestly) convincing a lot of Americans that John Kerry wasn’t the Vietnam war hero they thought he was. Seems like the Democrats have a much easier task this time around convincing Americans that McCain isn’t the “maverick” they thought he was.

  • If Blumenthal is right, then what ARE the differences between Bush and McCain? I’m having a hard time finding any policy differences between them at all.

    But I have to admit that Bush is pretty consistent in his opinions. It’s always “Stay the Course.” McCain not so much.

  • McCain isn’t Bush alright, he’s a smarter guy who hugged on Bush and told us all in 2004 that Kerry was unfit to be president and that Bush was teh bestest presidunce evah. So he’s a smart guy who nonetheless told us over and over to vote for the stupid guy who fucked everything up that he ever touched. That’s some kind of person, but I’m not sure what to call him. “Flaming Hypocrite” is probably the best way to put it.

    McCain hugged all over Bush, stumped for Bush in 2000 and 2004, he’s now telling us all to “stay the course” (the course that the moron Bush has plotted), but the American people are now supposed to believe that he’s really, really different from Bush?

    LOL.

  • Scott D will be appearing at Zanies comedy club for limited engagements. Look out for hilarious zingers such as:

    McCain is moderate and bipartisan.

    and…

    Voters are not stupid…

    Oh, the ironing!

  • maybe i’m missing something, but is it really that unreasonable to make arguments? isn’t there plenty of opportunity to say “McCain wants to appoint scary whacko justices who will take away all of your rights” and say “McCain is just Bush, but older!”

  • Why not generally paint McCain as Bush III (although that may be an understatement) and also also try to scare the public with specifics about the Supreme Court appointments and the like? It doesn’t have to be either/or.

  • Scott D said:
    Voters are not stupid, we know that McCain is not Bush. McCain is moderate and bipartisan. Kerry wanted McCain on the Democratic ticket in 2004. Obama will also have trouble painting McCain as Bush and it will backfire.

    Scott D, have you been reading this blog for longer than 15 minutes?

    John McCain used to be a moderate. Since he began running for the 2008 nomination, McCain has reversed himself on everything that made him a “moderate” and a “maverick”.

    McCain voted against Bush’s tax cuts, but now supports them.

    McCain used to be against overturning Roe v. Wade with a litmus test for Supreme Court justices but now wants to appoint justices like Alito and Scalia.

    McCain once denounced Jerry Falwell for his intollerance, but now embraces John Hagee and Rod Parsley.

    McCain once proposed comprehensive immigration reform. but now he opposes his own bill.

    McCain passed campaign finance reform but now opposes the McCain – Feingold law.

    Of course, “Straight Talk” McCain’s positions seem to change hourly, so maybe he’ll become a moderate again before November.

  • I don’t think Scott D has seen the latest polling, showing McCain losing to Obama by near double digits, with Hillary not even out of the race yet.

    LOL.

  • My guess is that Sid has some vested interest in mainstream media and anyone who does is going to do anything they can to keep trying to inflate the McCain balloon. Just think if they had to report real news because someone got ahead in the horse race.

  • ” … strategist for Hillary Clinton’s Democratic presidential campaign … ”

    And anyone would take this guy’s advice because … ?

    McCain’s and Bush’s policies on all but global warming are pretty identical, especially when it comes to Iraq, health care, and the issues people care about. It’s an easy tactic, and one that is easily doable.

    To think there isn’t a link — or that it shouldn’t be made — is reserved for the delusional or the stupid. Possible both.

  • Scott D said:
    It doens’t matter how much money or organization Obama has, most voters have already decided and McCain will win the electoral vote count this Nov.

    Quite a few of us are worried that someone has already decided McCain will win in November — someone like the puppetmasters behind Diebold.

    I’m not completely sure this is a parady and not a prognostication:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=LBrDzZCOQtI

  • giving sid the benefit of the doubt, is he arguing for a “play not to lose” strategy (strategery) instead of a “play to win” one? it seems he may be arguing, that by calling mccain bush, mccain’s credentials with the right wing base, which are weak now, will be strengthened. when the right wingers believe in mccain, they’ll come out and vote for him, thus the dems will lose. as long as the fundamentalists don’t have faith in him, the turnout will be low, and the dems win? i think that is the argument.

    i guess there is merit to the idea of not psyching up the republican base, but i think sid is coming up with a strategy that isn’t necessary at this time. maybe, had bush not run in 2004, and mccain wanted to take the mantle, this would have been a decent idea. but with how unpopular bush is, this is a huge mistake. people want change, and if mccain is presented as different or as a potential change from bush, this can only hurt obama, by giving people a choice. if mccain is thought of as bush III, there is no option but to vote for obama.

    the only people you risk increasing turn out with a mccain is bush III front is the fundamentalist base. these are people the dems ain’t never winning any way, and the only way they can make a positive difference is by staying home (or voting for barr). i think the dems have spent too many years “playing it safe,” and need to try and get the vast independent vote to swing our way. they don’t like bush, and will have to pick obama in a head to head.

  • Voters are not stupid, we know that McCain is not Bush.

    McCain’s platform largely mirrors the Bush platform. Obama doesn’t really need to hammer the point home, as the last seven years of failure after failure on issues that matter (keeping the country safe, safeguarding its citizen’s rights, securing our future) courtesy a Bush administration and GOP-controlled Congress make it clear to the voter what four years of a McCain Presidency would mean.

    McCain is moderate and bipartisan.

    You really think he is today, and will be tomorrow? I remind you that McCain backpedaled on his own immigration bill, as well as the Bush tax cuts.

    Kerry wanted McCain on the Democratic ticket in 2004.

    Nope, Kerry has indicated that it was McCain’s staff that wanted to join the Democratic Party ticket in 2004. You’ve got it backwards.

    Obama will also have trouble painting McCain as Bush and it will backfire.

    The polls don’t seem to agree with you –

    http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/05/national_poll_s.html
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKN2034087120080521

    Both seem to indicate that Obama has opened up leads on McCain.

    McCain has a teflon coat like Obama

    McCain does have a coat alright, it’s called the corporate media. Unfortunately, they cannot cover for him when he makes it clear he has no idea what he’s talking about. His gas-tax holiday plan, his failed housing crisis plan, statements about Iran, Iraq and al-Qaida, indicate he’s not the right person to lead this country.

    McCain also came back from Political pergatory to become the Republican front runner.

    Actually the Republican base rejected Romney. You only need to look at the money trail to know that he (not McCain) was their first choice.

    It doens’t matter how much money or organization Obama has, most voters have already decided

    Really? Source on that?

    and McCain will win the electoral vote count this Nov.

    Current trends seem to indicate otherwise. And Obama’s a much different candidate than Kerry or Gore. He doesn’t let the right-wing talking points go by without being debunked.

    The Bush campaigns took advantage of the fact that the Kerry and Gore teams didn’t fight back when slandered. This made the races close enough to be fixed.

    This will be an historic election. This contest will be fought on many levels; Obama vs. McCain, left vs. right, liberal vs. conservative, Democrat vs. Republican, change vs. status-quo, even generation vs. generation.

    For the American voter, this election will be test to see which sets of views really resonate best. The contrast between the two sides will not be any clearer.

    Obama will see that it was easier beating up on a woman than on a popular Senator and war hero.

    Really? In Obama’s message, platform, and solid campaign I’ve not seen any references to ‘beating up on a woman’. Show me your source that says otherwise.

  • Re: the hapless Scott D.

    Expect more McCainbots coming thru these parts. They’ll probably be as effective as the Fredbots were, as in not at all and be quite funny.

  • Blumenthal is a little bit right and a whole lot wrong.

    First, Bush is unpopular and his administration has been hideously corrupt and incompetent, and every last republican has enabled this while denouncing democrats as traitors and such whenever they failed to go along with whatever the Republicans favored. So he should be a dead albatross hung on every Republican’s neck whether they are runnning for president or dogcatcher.

    Second, Blumenthal is right that we can’t just say “McCain = Bush”, because it is easy for Republicans to come up with a difference which shreds the general argument, and turns the whole thing into a back-and-forth on details that confuse the average voter.

    However, we have The Hug. All we have to do is show The Hug
    http://www.basehead.org/files/shots/1-mccain_bush_hug.jpg
    and say, “Let’s let go of the failures and incompetence of the past, and try something different”. That gets the point across, and it is not trivially refutable.

  • Blumenthal’s point is the same point Dems make every election – if a Republican asserts and positions themselves as something, accept it as fact and move on, even if it isn’t true.

  • Why not put your blog to something useful such as addressing some of the issues instead of just ranting about one candidate or the other? Seems to me they all could use some help, and whats with this business of a candidate promising changes that only the congress has the power to do anything about? This is the first time on your site so if I’m not in synch, don’t post. Thanks.

  • I think we can tell what McCain thinks about having Bush help out…

    “When John McCain visited the White House in March to receive the endorsement of George W. Bush, the Republican presidential candidate said he would be glad to campaign alongside the president anywhere in the US — provided Mr Bush could find time in his ‘busy schedule’.

    “It has come as a surprise to no one that the two have not been seen together since.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2008/05/21/BL2008052100638_pf.html

  • Absolutely correct, N Wells @ 30, except we’ve got a lot more than one pic of McCain hugging Bush, and I say we flood the airwaves with all of ’em.

  • Blumenthal said Kerry was a shoo-in for the presidency the night before the 2004 election, too.

    What he’s advocating is such a cowardly tactic. The Republicans have had success the past 20 years attacking Dems’ perceived strengths. They were smart. You have to re-brand these people. You have to take control of the narrative.

  • as far as I’m concerned, every anti-McCain ad should begin with the phrase “John McCain is NOT a maverick” then follow it up with an appropriate talking point – his desire to stay in Iraq, his ties with lobbyists, his half-assed approach to global warming, his indifference to understanding the economy, his acceptance over the privatization of Social Security, his willingness to not improve Americans’ ability to get afordable quality health care, etc. then end it with “John McCain is NOT A MAVERICK, John McCain is four more years of Bush policies, and we can’t survive four more years of Bush policies.”

    Every. Single. Ad. At least, every single anti-McCain ad, as opposed to ads touting Obama’s agenda, goals or accomplishments.

    If America needs to hear that John McCain is not a maverick, then let them never stop hearing it. Drive it home until “John MCCain is NOT a maverick” bumper stickers and buttons & web banners are as ubiquitous as “Obama ’08: Yes We Can.”

  • Bush is likely to leave the WH with a job approval rating somewhere south of Richard Nixon’s 24% and that’s gotta hurt Republican candidates who are associated with him.

    The myth that McCain built up over the years is that he is a Maverick. The truth behind that myth is that there are other GOP Senators with better voting records than McCain’s. This session of congress McCain has voted the GOP partyline 88% of the time. Chuck Hagel, Olympia Snowe, and Susan Collins all have a better claim to being GOP mavericks than McCain. Hell, I’d vote for Olympia Snowe for first woman POTUS because all gender aside she is the real McCain. Everything that McCain pretends to be she is.

    McCain has to be tied to Bush because that is where he stands. He has shown himself to be a gutless wonder as a politician, willing to sell out any principles he might have had for electoral victory. He deserves defeat. And McCain can’t fight the Bush tarring too strenuously because no matter how low Bush’s job approval rating sinks, those who still think Bushie’ s doing a heck’uva job will never forgive McCain if he disses the little emperor and McCain can’t afford to lose those votes. McCain is caught between a burning Bush and hard place and the more he is forced the embrace the burning Bush the better.

  • “every anti-McCain ad should begin with the phrase “John McCain is NOT a maverick””

    slappy, you’re touching on a very important point in influence thru media that dems have not understood correctly for quite a while. IIRC studies have shown that a “not-X” statement does work in the short term, but in the medium and long term people’s memories get hazy and they mostly remember “X”. That’s one reason why politicians going on tv and saying “there’s no link between iraq and al-q” did not work–after a few days people forget the “there’s no” and just remember the core statement, thereby reinforcing the original message.

    If you want people to not think McCain is a maverick, the last thing you want to say is “he’s not a maverick.” You want to say something else. For example, in the above example you might say “Iraq has never worked with anyone” to press in people’s minds the idea that Iraq does not make alliances, and by extension did/does not have one with al-q. Or “al-q only works alone” or whatever along that line–I’m making these counter-statements up on the fly so they might not be the best ones, but the basic point stands.

    So in a way Barack saying “the Bush/McCain energy policy” or “the Bush/McCain foreign policy” is a much more effective way of working against the maverick myth. It creates a strong impression of someone following the establishment line. And what word to associate with himself? “Change.”

    Sounds more like a maverick’s word. Damn, that Obama guy is good.

  • My theory is Blumenthal is looking ahead to 2012. If he can convince Democrats not to use the obviously winning strategy of tying Bush around McCain’s neck and we therefore lose to McCain, then (he thinks) his sweetie Hillary, can win the presidency in 2012.

    What on earth have they done to that man?

  • Well comparing candidate A with polarising politician B is simply a rhetorical device, it’s a bit like a reverse endorsement; “You hated B, so you’re really going to hate A!”. So, I agree with Blumenthal that Democrats shouldn’t be basing their message on the fact that McCain is Dubya Mk. 2, but for different reasons.

    The device is a crutch they don’t need, and it is a style of politics that lacks content. Concentrating on the specific issues where he and Bush converge is the more substantive tactic, as part of a greater examination of his positions, and with contrast to Obama’s stands (and his own previous stands when there is a contradiction). I think avoiding relying on the guilt by association meme is important, because the it helps raise the level of discourse when you focus on educating the people and telling them it is up to THEM to decide.

    Wow… that just sounded like a concern troll post, still that is the best I can do in phrasing my point. The goal should be to elect more and better Democrats, and relying on tactics like this allows bad candidates to get elected just because they chose the right party to put under their name on the ticket. Candidates should be confident (and relied upont) to win on the basis of substantive and content filled comparison against their direct opponents, not because of a brand name.

    As for his second point? I think the comparison is pretty sound, and I think a large portion of the electorate would resonate with it, and already do in fact. I think in someways he’s doing a little concern trolling of his own, he’s ignored polling that says the opposite in order to conflate his own (and the media’s) opinion on McCain with that of the public.

    There’s no reason that the comparison can’t be made, and made often, but it just shouldn’t be relied on or pushed in favour of more meaningful arguments.

  • Blumenthal is intelligent and dishonest in roughly equal measure.

    He was and is the Clintons’ political hit man; I’m pretty sure it was he who disparaged Obama voters as people who pine for “an imaginary hip black friend,” and I know it was he who passed a succession of scurrilous anti-Obama e-mails to his many contacts in the press.

    Given the way Blumenthal practices politics, I think it’s very likely he’d rather Obama lose this year so his patron can run again in 2012, and the welfare of the country in the meantime be damned.

  • Looking for an honest answer. Why is John McCain considered a war hero? Was he not shot down? Was he not captured? Did he try numerous times to escape his captors, as standard operating policy for soldiers captured by enemy forces dictate? Did he ever give in to his captor’s demands. How many lives did he personally save? How many enemy forces did he take out? Why am I asking these questions? My uncle was a POW. They cut off all his toes and fingers and ears. He did escape capture, but was punished severely every time he was recaptured, hence the amputations. Eventually, he and his fellow prisoners were freed when the camp was taken. He was a survivor, and my personal hero, but he was not a national hero, in fact the military treated him badly, refusing to even pay him, or extend benefits for the longest time. He ended up committing suicide, wasn’t able to escape the dreams of his torment. He wasn’t provided a fancy funeral, just a plain granite block and simple plot for his resting place. Again, he was never regarded as a war hero because of his capture, so why is John McCain regarded as a national war hero because of his? What exactly did John McCain do differently than my uncle to warrant that designation?

  • I agree with lori completely…. What did McCain do to earn his ‘war’ hero status. He was anything but a hero. It is time this notion gets challenged. I wish Obama would stop referring to McCain’s ‘honorable’ service to the country. Obama doesn’t have to bad mouth him, but he could at least not refer to him as a war hero.

  • I think he is wrong. People do see McCain as a third term of Bush because he will be a third term of Bush. When McCain states to his core of conservatives look at the types of conservative judges I will appoint McCain is saying I am a third term of Bush. Sid needs to say McCain is not to be trusted because he aill do anything to be elected. McCain might even throw the conservatives over the bridge if it means McCain gains the Whitehouse. That is the problem with McCain. McCain lies!

  • Obama’s position on the Iraqi war has been exactly as Bush’s position …at least until he started to run for President.

    Before become a US Senator, Obama (VIA SPEECHES!) was opposed to the war.

    Once he became a US Senator he voted ‘yes’ on every single bill regarding the Iraqui war.

    Obama is deceptive, to say the least!

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