Understanding Thompson’s appeal

I’ve been trying to wrap my head around why one-of-these-days presidential candidate Fred Thompson makes an appealing candidate. So far, the reasons I’ve heard are a little thin.

In May, Rep. Zack Wamp (R-Tenn.) said Thompson is qualified for the presidency because he’s tall: “We need a president of the United States after the 2008 election who will rise above the partisan challenges … That person is 6 foot 6. He has a commanding voice. He has a commanding presence. He makes people feel secure. He makes us feel confident.”

A month later, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews got a little creepy in praising Thompson, complimenting the former senator’s odor: “Can you smell the English leather on this guy, the Aqua Velva, the sort of mature man’s shaving cream, or whatever, you know, after he shaved? Do you smell that sort of — a little bit of cigar smoke?”

TAP’s Garance Franke-Ruta spoke to a “leading figure in the Iowa Republican Party” about the actor-lobbyist-senator, who explained why so many conservatives are excited about a Thompson campaign.

“Can you imagine what debates are going to be like with great big Andrew Jackson-looking Fred and Hillary on her stubby little legs, stamping her feet?” Thompson, if elected, would be the tallest president ever. Republicans are not just looking for the usual John Wayne-type signifiers as they go about selecting a candidate, but thinking about who can best loom over Hillary Clinton and make her look like a shrill, small, silly little woman. Thompson’s booming voice will make her “sound like Madame Defarge.”

In other words, the GOP wants a big guy. Not in terms of stature or intellect, but in physical size. (For what it’s worth, like Kevin, I think Hillary would humiliate Thompson in a debate).

It’s discouraging enough when campaigns descent into personality contests, but rank-and-file Republicans apparently are looking at this race as a contest to pick the captain of a basketball team.

On the other hand, Thompson may yet give his fans pause. He spoke with the WaPo’s David Broder about his ideas for the race and made some unexpected comments.

[Thompson] says he thinks the public is looking for a different kind of leadership. “I think a president could go to the American people and say, ‘Here’s what we need to be doing. And I’m willing to go halfway. Now you have to make them [the opposition] go halfway.’ “

Now, as a rule, Republican primary voters don’t care for this kind of talk. Dems are supposed to be beaten into submission; Republican presidents aren’t supposed to be “willing to go halfway.”

Then there was this:

“Nobody in Congress or on either side in the presidential race wants to deal with [long-term budget projections],” Thompson said. “So we just rock along and try to maintain the status quo. Republicans say keep the tax cuts; Democrats say keep the entitlements. And we become a less unified country in the process, with a tax code that has become an unholy mess, and all we do is tinker around the edges.”

Now, Broder didn’t go into a lot of detail, and I suspect Thompson didn’t delve too deeply into his thoughts, but it sounds like a campaign platform predicated in part on the idea of cutting Medicare benefits and raising taxes.

I’m starting to think being tall may not get Thompson very far.

Short people have no reason to lead?

  • And imagine how tall he’ll be in cowboy boots. And how tall he’ll appear with a Lincoln-style stovepipe hat! The Republican’ts only wish that Yao Ming had a lighter complexion and rounder eyes….

  • The talk about Fred Thompson is all just Reagan-era wish-fulfillment coming from a party that’s on the skids. The guy is basically incoherent when it comes to actual policy and can’t even deliver a stump speech that doesn’t put listeners to sleep.

  • OK. This obsession with size is officially way too Freudian for me. I wonder if Thompson keeps holding off on his official announcement because he’s afraid GOP groupies will smarm up his shirt front and sniff him all over?

    but thinking about who can best loom over Hillary Clinton and make her look like a shrill, small, silly little woman.

    Yeah! That’ll show her! Frighten that silly broad back to the kitchen!!

    I’m willing to bet the guy who spouted that crap is about 5′ 5″, a complete dick to women and is convinced that they avoid him like the plague because he’s short.

  • Oh, how I wish I had a scratch-and-sniff Thompson so I could all inhale his cheap aftershave and smoke laden musk. Mmmm, smells tall.

  • Debates are not won or lost, they are spun to make the Republican win.
    Gore sighed.
    Bush stamped his little feet at the taller Kerry.

    The media gave it to Bush both times.

    Sorry for the recurring theme.

  • Thompson’s appeal is that he’s not in it (yet). The repubs scan their field of pygmies and figure there just has to be someone better. On the surface, Red Truck Freddy’s got what it takes. He’s tall, has a good speaking voice and is an actor in the Reagan/Arnold tradition. But really, he’s a hollow gas bag. Tall or not, once he enters the fray, he’ll blend right in with the other pygmies.

  • I just read somewhere online that Fred Thompson has a reputation for laziness and rather than having him stump around the country, his campaign will rely on the internet, tv etc. If Thompson is too lazy to even campaign, what would he be like as president? Thompson might make Bush seem like a dynamo.

  • I completely agree that sheet physical height is critical in all elections. The great Democrat, former professional basketball player and former President Bill Bradley told me that once, and who am I to disagree with a former President of the United States.

    (and by the way, if Frederick of Hollywood actually wants to get his fat backside on a court and play HRC in a game of basketball for the Presidency, I’d stake cash against all the Repubs quoted by Steve on HRC to win by forfeit when Freddy ends up in coronary ICA. i’ll triple my bet if we nominate Obama.)

  • 11. On August 16th, 2007 at 4:03 pm, libra said:

    I bet Frederick’s of Hollywood lingerie is more sexy than Hillary’s, too.

    That’s another keyboard you owe me.

    On second thoughts…Thompson in lingerie. Urrhg. I need a bucket.

  • Now now – are you forgetting that Hil is into showing cleavage these days? Or so I read on the WaPo front page. (and tAiO, before you even go there, the idea of Fred showing cleavage is all wrong.)

  • I wonder what Shaquille O’Neal’s politics are. I’ve read that he likes pretending to be a cop, so that, combined with his overwhelming physical presence would surely make him the ideal GOP candidate. It would be a slamdunk, so to speak.

    Too bad Andre the Giant’s dead. I’d be willing to change our constitution just for a chance to vote for the big guy. And with the way things work in the wrestling world, he could switch from Republican to Democrat whenever he wanted and people wouldn’t think twice about it. And whenever press conferences got too intense, he could just go on a rampage and clear the whole room. That’d be sweet.

    If only we could find some DNA of Goliath to clone…

  • OK. I’ve got to comment on MSNBC’s Chris Matthews and his ardent observation/fantasy, “praising Thompson, complimenting the former senator’s odor: “Can you smell the English leather on this guy, the Aqua Velva, the sort of mature man’s shaving cream, or whatever, you know, after he shaved? Do you smell that sort of — a little bit of cigar smoke?” ”

    Obviously Chris Matthews is GAY……. and a “bottom” to boot. No straight male would so amorously write about (or fantasize about) another man’s smell or scent in such a manner! No such intimate observation can be made by another man unless he is ABSOLUTELY gay. And in Mr. Matthews’ case (apparently), very deep in the closet. Chris is the ultimate “jock sniffer!” And so ‘sixties,’ too. English Leather? Aqua Velva? Cigar smoke? PLEEZE!!!

    Hey, Chris. Come on out. There are a lot of hunky older men out here waiting for you to smell them and be your ‘Daddy!’

  • Fred will make mincemeat of Hillary in the debates. He is the Dem’s worst nightmare. His strengths (humility, humor, authenticity, straightforwardness) counter Hillary’s weaknesses (arrogance, deceit, intellectual dishonesty, and plasticity). American voters may be ideologically driven and sometimes crazy, but they are never stupid! Even Democrats will move over to vote for Fred.

  • never stupid, larry? they voted for Dubya a second time, didn’t they?

    Fred is authentic, like when he ditches the red truck to get into his new luxury sedan a block away?

    HRC may have her faults, but she is willing to work and prepare harder than Fred, and she starts out a good dozen IQ points ahead of him – before anyone knew who she was, National Law Journal named her one of America’s Top 100 lawyers.

    she’ll kick his mediocre TV acting backside so bad he’ll be whining back to Dick Wolf begging for a job by the third debate question (not to mention wondering when they get to break for commercial).

  • Well Zeitgeist, you made my point. The American voter was smart enough not to vote for Kerry. HRC has never actually had a real job and flunked the bar exam in DC. As for her faults(?), she is narcissistic. Even you will vote for Fred when the time comes.

  • Even you will vote for Fred when the time comes. — larry, @19

    I know this was addressed to Zeitgeist, but…

    Yes, larry, I will vote for Frederick. But only if he debates Hillary with both of them showing their respective cleavages. If he’s so macho, he should be able to wear his jeans really looooow, even on a national stage. I wanna know how deep he is.

  • This is what we’re reduced to? Tallness? Smell? Idiot commenters claiming we’ll all vote for Fred Thompson “when the time comes”? Now I KNOW I want to move to another country.

  • The Republiclowns are toast. Their best chance is Giuliani. For a bald man he has good presence, he is well spoken, humorous, good smile and knows how to connect with people. He will come close in the 2008 but the Clinton organization will prove too much to overcome..

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