Vice President Jindal?

The headline on Bill Kristol’s NYT column today reads, “McCain-Jindal?” It suggests to the reader that the column is about John McCain considering Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal for the Republican presidential ticket, as has been rumored elsewhere. As it turns out, the first three-fourths of Kristol’s column was actually about Jeremiah Wright and Barack Obama’s chances in November.

Eventually, at the end, Kristol gets around to the point.

[I]n separate conversations last week, no fewer than four McCain staffers and advisers mentioned as a possible vice-presidential pick the 36-year-old Louisiana governor, Bobby Jindal. They’re tempted by the idea of picking someone so young, with real accomplishments and a strong reformist streak.

It might also be a way to confront the issue of McCain’s age (71), which private polls and focus groups suggest could be a real problem. A Jindal pick would implicitly acknowledge the questions and raise the ante. The message would be: “You want generational change? You can get it with McCain-Jindal — without risking a liberal and inexperienced Obama as commander in chief.” I would add that it was after McCain spent considerable time with Jindal in New Orleans recently, and reportedly found him, as he has before, personally engaging and intellectually impressive, that the campaign’s informal name-dropping of Jindal began.

On the surface, I can appreciate why Republicans would be buzzing about Jindal. He’s almost ridiculously conservative on social and cultural issues, and a darling of the James Dobson and Rush Limbaugh crowds. He offers McCain regional and age balance — Jindal is only a couple of years older than me — and he’s the governor of what ostensibly might be a swing state in November.

But this scenario still strikes me as unlikely.

Kristol’s argument is that McCain could tell voters that Jindal represents the kind of generational change they crave, without taking a “risk” with Obama’s “inexperience.”

But Kristol conveniently brushes past the obvious flaw — Jindal makes Obama look like a seasoned veteran. Obama was first elected to public office 12 years ago. He served eight years at the state level, and four in the U.S. Senate. Jindal, in contrast, was first elected to public office four years ago. He served three years in the U.S. House, and one at the state level.

Given that McCain would be the oldest president ever elected, it seems odd to have a 36-year-old governor, with four years of service in public office and no military or foreign policy experience whatsoever, one heartbeat away from the Oval Office.

My friend dnA argues, “[T]he main reason for a Jindal pick, I’m guessing, would be his fanatical opposition to reproductive choice in all circumstances, including rape and incest, which might help McCain rile up the base.” I suspect that’s right. Indeed, my hunch is the McCain campaign is touting Jindal to friendly media personalities like Kristol under the assumption that the far-right base will be thrilled to hear that Jindal is even being considered.

But it still seems like a stretch.

I’d just add that Jindal is Indian-American. If the far-right is uncomfortable with Obama because he strikes them as “too different” — the color of his skin, his untraditional name, his finding Christianity as an adult — Jindal may also prove problematic in intolerant circles.

Please, please, let Kristol be right about something for once. The racists who would come out to vote against Obama would stay home in droves if Jindal was the alternative.

  • Re: Jindal

    This is a cynical ploy by pitting one minority against another by painting Jindal as part of the “good “minority and Obama “bad” minority.

    Re: Obama not having a record.

    Obama needs to talk about his work in the Illinois senate and contrast that with Wright’s views.

  • Jindal on Iraq:

    “I also think that we certainly need to be aggressively shifting responsibility to the Iraqi people. I don’t think our troops need to be there forever. I don’t think we can force the Shiites, the Sunnis and the Kurds to live together if they don’t want to live together peacefully. They have to decide that for themselves.”

    uh-oh. So if McCain dies, VP Jindal will pull our troops out?

  • Jindal would be a fool to get put on the ticket. While I don’t claim to know who will win, why tie yourself to a weak candidate whose party isn’t totally on board with?

  • My friend dnA argues, “[T]he main reason for a Jindal pick, I’m guessing, would be his fanatical opposition to reproductive choice in all circumstances, including rape and incest, which might help McCain rile up the base.”

    Careful John, your base might murder you to get you out of the way. I wish the Fundies would get their noses out of women’s vaginas.

  • Jindal would be a dangerous choice for Democrats to have to run against. As I am frequently noting, African Americans are constantly begging for handouts, which is one reason why so many of us cannot support Senator Spare a Dime under any circumstances. Indian Americans, on the other hand, are renowned for their hard work and self-made success, qualities Senator Clinton herself exhibits.

    Senator Clinton would do well to choose Gov. Jindal for her running mate after she secures the nomination. They see eye to eye on many important policy positions, and it might shut up the identity politics-obsessed blacks who vote according to pigmentation.

  • Obviously, I ain’t PC enough but

    I was just wondering if Steve Benen calls himself a “White-American” or a “European-American” or some other stupid adjective.

    Obviously, ANYONE who is being considered for VP is an AMERICAN cause that is what the constitution requires.

    Why do you call white people ‘white’, and black people ‘black’ when you aren’t calling them negros or African Americans, and Jews are called Jews?

    Then why not say that Jindal is INDIAN.

    Look at the man. He ain’t white. Look at his birth certificate. He is as AMERICAN as anyone.

    And please don’t start calling me names. My Japanese wife, my black sister-in-law, and my uncle who walked out of Dachau call me enough names already.

  • Regarding the racism issue: my opinion is that most of the semi-racist people I know have a problem with black people, but not so much with Indians and other Asians. The Asians they know all work hard, whereas the blacks “don’t seem to.”

    This of course is ignoring the little issue where we dragged Africans over here in chains, while most Asians came here by choice (and it could be surmised that the ones that came over were the most driven individuals, looking to take advantage of the land of opportunity).

    In other words, this might seem like a great opportunity for all those semi-racists to say, “See? I’m not racist, I voted for that Indian guy.”

  • Racer X: “The racists who would come out to vote against Obama would stay home in droves if Jindal was the alternative.”

    He wasn’t elected governor of Louisiana by voters who stayed home.

  • Dale,
    Are you trying to be offensive or are you just stupid? Jindal’s approval rating is high because he has a soul and knows that it does not matter how a baby is made but because it is a human it has a right to live.

    DK

  • … Jindal may also prove problematic in intolerant circles.

    This is the killer point. Jindal looks way too Muslim to be accepted by the Republican party as it is currently cobbled together. Perhaps after another 20 years of social evolution. But right now, much of the Republican message is driven by the need to fear and war against people who look exactly like Mr. Jindal.

    Conclusion: Jindal’s name is being jingled because Kristol had to fill some column inches today. Or, since the column was really about Rev. Wright, as the “bait” part in an op-ed attempt at bait-and-switch.

  • It’s quite apparent that Kristol and his neocon movement (after all, he was the Chairman of the Project for a New American Century – PNAC – who had plans to invade Iraq and Iran for their oil more than a decade ago) is quite afraid of Obama.

    They can’t handle anyone with any modicum of integrity and they know that their time in power (and if anyone thinks they aren’t in power, go to the PNAC site and look at their various letters and who the signers are – they are all in our government now) will come to a crashing close.

    I hope each of them burns in hell.

  • I am disgusted that a fellow Indian would associate themselves with the GOP party, he’s a disgrace!

  • Insane Fake Professor finally reveals him/herself as a total racist. Charming characteristic for someone who probably calls themselves a “progressive.” Reminds of people who were active in the anti-war cause during Vietnam, but joined only because they wanted to push toward violence in that movement. We didn’t need them then, and we sure as hell don’t need YOU…IFP, to call themselves a progressive. You AIN’T!!!

  • impeachcheneythenbush (@14) finally reveals that he/she: a) doesn’t read other people’s comments on a regular basis, b) is devoid of sense of irony/humour or c) suffers from amnesia (the crazy postings of IFP have been explained here *many* times)

  • impeachcheneythenbush,
    Can you really not see that InsaneFakeProfessor is being completely tongue-in-cheek? I am totally amazed at some of my fellow commenters’ naivete!

  • Booby Jindal ran in Louisiana on the idea of ethics reform. Well,once he got elected,the ethics bill presented to the lawmakers suddenly was considered unenforceable because the amount of money originally earmarked to set up Ethics Reform was allegedly an insufficient amount of money to ENFORCE the reforms. CAN YOU SAY CON JOB?He’d fit right in with the other no -goods in Louisiana politics like David Vitter,and the Republican- sleazebags before him Bob Livingston and Jim Brown-who went to Federal prison-and who happens to be reporter Campbell Brown’s dad.

  • BTW, CNN reporter Campbell Brown,who hosted some of the political debates,is married to Dan Senor,just for the record.

  • Kristol is a thin-lipped moron, the kind of person who only sees one wall rather than 4 corners of a room. He can barely string a subject and a predicate together.

  • This makes no sense. If you want tamp down concern about McCain’s age then you find an experienced guy in his 50s to be the VP — not someone who is 36! You want to be able to say “If I die, then it’s no big deal because my VP is totally solid.” Jindal would just spotlight how old McCain is and essentially double down on the age concerns: “If I die, you get this boyish neophyte!” That is not a winning ticket.

  • Libra and Rickles – if IFP is truly posting as a satirist, then he/she deserves my apology. I do, actually read and comment on CB pretty frequently. This is not the first time I’ve commented about IFP’s comments (nor the only one to do so in the past). But if you would like to show me how IFP’s “crazy postings” have been explained many times, I would change my perception.

  • Yep,Jindal would be perfect for the Repubs—- “Why Bobby Jindal is Bad”—“-Less than a month into his term, Jindal’s campaign is being investigated for ethics violations.

    Jindal avoided the public records law by only holding meetings where a quorum would not be reached.

    Jindal’s administration kept up with the idea that we needed to solve the “perception” of ethics problems instead of stating that we have to solve the ethics problems.

    We have seen that Jindal’s “bold” ethics agenda wont take effect until 2012. So much for his comments like “we must wipe the slate clean” and “We must be bold”.

    Then Jindal wants to remove some of the transparency of the ethics board and strip them of powers, actions that the head of the ethics board thinks would remove the independence of the ethics board.

    Jindal then opposes a bill that would increase transparency on the Governors office. He feels that businesses should be able to have back room deals with the state. Jindal also fails to hold his own staff up to the same standards he is demanding for others .

    As this session goes on, I am absolutely sure that we will see more and more hypocricy coming from Jindal and others in his administration. At what point will the Jindal apologists wake up and realize that, just as Dennis Green stated of the Bears, “they (the Jindal administration) are who we thought they were!”.

  • #19————-Show me a Republican who DOESN’T have thin lips (some are lipless) . Thin lips, thick hide, cold heart.

  • #21, Impeach, IFP is a take off on the real insane “professor” Mary. Mary is either a lunatic, a gooper in disguise (my belief), or simply a deluded, apologist for Clinton. I pick #2 because I think the primary goal is to turn dems off of Clinton by getting Obama supporters to hate Clinton and turn all people off of dems. But that’s just my take on “her” insanity.

    It’s easy to fall prey to thinking IFP is real…you have to be one of the regulars (which I know you are) to understand. When I first started reading IFP, I was of the thought of…HUH?, and I believe that I fell into the oh fuck you and the broom you rode in on, myself. It happens – especially when you read the real insane “professor” that Mary is supposed to be.

  • Thanks MsJoanne…I’m familiar with your postings and my apologies to IFP. I’m familiar with Mary’s postings as well (insane, indeed). To be honest with all my fellow posters, having been a young adult during the travesties of the last decade of the Vietnam war and the Nixon years, I’ve never seen the country in a bigger mess nor our Democracy at greater risk. It’s definitely had a negative affect on my sense of humor. (But, Libra, I haven’t been naive about politics since I was about 7 years old).

  • But if you would like to show me how IFP’s “crazy postings” have been explained many times, I would change my perception

    Well, you could start by actually reading just about every thread here for the past 30 days, since there is at least one comedy-impaired over-serious apparatchik who gets all upset with IFP and has to be sentenced to a 40-hour class in the recognition of irony in satire and comedy. 🙂

  • Those of you who keep claiming that I’m a satire of this Mary person need some help with reading comprehension. Or do all female supporters of Senator Clinton look and sound alike to you? (Quit looking at my breasts; my eyes are up here, okay?)

    I spend a lot of time writing thoughtful and well-argued posts that explain, not that any man here is listening, why I cannot support Senator Smoove B. Mary has a lot of passion for Senator Clinton, I’ll give her that, but she’s not the brightest star in the firmament, she has zero sense of humor and I suspect she’s considerably less attractive than I am. She frequently exhibits a snippy jealousy when referring to my posts. I guess I can understand that, but where I come from women are supposed to stick together no matter what.

    Anyway, knock off these stupid comparisons. All they do is showcase your revolting sexism on this echo chamber of a blog and take the focus off the real issue: who will be the first person Madam President has the IRS audit. I personally hope it’s Federico Pena.

  • Clearly you’ve all been had, Billy is angling for the McCain-Kristol ticket, I can see the stickers now:

    “maybe a hundred. that’s fine by me!” McKristol08

  • Seems to me that the only reason Jindal’s name is being floated is to appeal to the fundies, nothing more. I seriously doubt that McCain would choose Jindal for all the above stated reasons, and this is a convenient way to rile up the base.

  • lets the tingle tingle,
    let the jingle jingle,
    let the parte roulte,
    give up on education,
    and lets forget honestly,
    for just one day…

    oh bubba, oh bubba,
    we so glad you came to stay,
    Lou Ana would be without,
    another lame politican to which to play.

    oh bubba, oh bubba,
    for which thou I am indebted,
    for I have dropped my “bubba” name,
    and carried my Hindu with grace,
    and left my dear home state.

    oh bubba, oh bubba,
    are we yet so glad,
    that you fooled us again,
    with you ethics reform
    and to dissolve the budget crisis,
    by deposing of the surplus,
    and which we are so glad.

    oh bubba, oh bubba,
    I chant my prayer,
    eat my bowl of Jasmine Rice,
    before the price hits the sky,
    and Sam Club prohibits it sale,
    for without curry and naan,
    I would be at lost,
    there are no other costs.

    oh bubba, oh bubba,
    oh jingle jangle jingle,
    jingle, jangle jindel,
    such is the hindu name,
    which I do hold most claim,
    relinquish my bubba “bobby”
    and claim my marisha with fame,
    thanks again bubba, bobby jindel,
    without your ethics reform
    it would be a pasture of liars,
    truly pitiful without crawfish pies.

    A NONE BUBBA HINDU WHO VOTED FOR BOASSO..

    WE SAY BO…ASS…OH….

  • My Rant
    All immigrants are not democrats and liberals. Indians are more conservative in their viewpoints than any other race. And I as a Indian am really proud of Jindal for what he has achieved in a country where people keep complaining about racism.
    There is nothing to hide in the fact that majority of blacks in general are living on the system and handouts while the majority of whites and Asians feed them trough social programs. I’ll exclude immigrants from Africa because they are hard working people.
    There are a lot of people complaining about racism in America. But yes i have seen it wherever I am in a fast food i get a sloppy service when the person is a African American. Its a general observation.
    Now about Obama.
    You cannot tell me that a person sat in a church for 20 years hearing black supremacy and not be one himself. Bullshit like aids being created by federal gov and three strike law was to enslave blacks. Hey if you do not go and kill or mug people you would not be in prison is Wright that dumb. Don’t go around screwing every hole you find and have some control and responsibility over you libido then you would not have Aids in you community.
    Suddenly when Obama finds that he can become president he felt that he has to distance himself from Rev Wright. Untill then he was busy listening admiringly to his crap and even naming his crappy book on one of his sermons
    Get the book “Liberalism is a Mental Disorder” best book ever

  • Piyush ‘Bobby’ Jindals 100 + day as governor of Louisiana track record: Ethics reform? -0-…… Pretty much all he managed to get done on that issue was it is now forbidden for anyone to give state legislatures ‘Hannah Montanah’ concert tickets or football tickets ‘free of charge’. period………. Public dislosure? Nothing on that yet either. Couldn’t even impose a $50.00 limit on ‘free lunches’ for legislatures…..

    Jindals actions as a Congressional Representative aside from taking actions that would allow him to abandon the post and duties he swore to uphold so that he could run for Governor? H.R. 6111………. December, 2006…. On the surface it was for Medicare and health care….. Laying submerged below the water was Offshore Oil and Gas Royalties….. In Federal waters…. Somehow all of the proceeds of the oil and gas royalties in federal offshore waters are going to be given to Louisiana, and Louisiana alone to a very high degree… The rest of the States can forget portions of those revenues, which could have helped pay for Medicare and Healthcare related costs, but instead, those costs are to be born by the other 49 States as well. So…. Analogy,,,, Double dipping………

    And then there is the matter of Strongconcrete, or; http://www.strongconcrete.com... On page 12 of that website there are rather generous provisions of aid for the state of Louisiana that would save taxpayers, state and federal alike, a fairly substantial amount of money…. No moves have been made by the Jindal administration on this yet…..

    And the potentials for reduced cost evironmental calamities protection being made readily available in the near future to other states of the United States are seemingly ‘drowned’ as well. So it would appear that while there is everything available for Louisiana, nothing for the rest of the United States is offered in return, including royalties from oil and gas that doesn’t even exist in Louisiana territorial waters, but are located in Federal waters instead…..

    One item of note, according to the patent information relating to strongconcrete.com there are provisions for a lower cost flood protection barrier that has applications in the San Joaquin Valley Delta Region of California….. One of the largest agricultural regions of the United States…

    There is a fairly large distinction between being ‘conservative’ and plain old ‘selfish’.

    For him to jump from his role of Governor to pursue the role of V.P. in midstride, much in the same way as he made a jump from Congressional Representative to the Governors chair would simply bear him out as what he truely is “A really nice self serving ambitious ladder climber that has no concern or care for those he is supposed to care for as he performs his duties he was elected to do” But then again, a V.P. really doesn’t have to do all that much, unless of course we have a repeat of 1945, or heaven forbid, 1963 or 1974 (which is unlikely)…….

  • According to AP, Obama camp has scheduled a meeting with Christie Todd Whitman, former Gov. NJ, frmr EPA sec. Additionally, the website obamawhitman2008.com was purchased just yesterday… might be an interesting wrinkle…

  • um jindal served as director of the national bipartisan commission on the future of medicare, the louisiana department of health and hospitals, president of the louisiana state university system, assistant secretary of health and human services, two terms in the house of representitives, service on the house committe on homeland security, and the governor of louisiana, not to mention he is a graduate of brown university with a degree in biology and a rhodes scholar at oxford. he may be young and he may not have a ton of time in office, but he is far more accomplished then barack obama, just a handful of the executive jobs jindal has succeeded in far outweighs showing up to the illinois senate for 8 years to vote ‘present’ half the time. he has more executive experience then obama, more legislative accomplishments then obama, and is vastly more intelligent then barack, and is of indian descent which could prove tremendously important in dealing with india and pakistan and other east asian nations as well as providing true inspiration around the world (not the packaged media hype obama has).

  • all of this ‘racist repubs wont vote jindal’ stuff is nonsense. jindal got a bunch of hillbillies to elect him governor of louisiana. its not like he is some liberal guilt case from the northeast (deval i’m looking at youuuuu) jindal was able to get backwoods rednecks on the bayou to vote for him. that is talent my friends, pure god given skillz.

  • Wow, from the fear I am reading on this blog on Bobby Jindal…..I must say he is the right choice for Mccain in November. Anyone that can conjure up this much fear based hate from liberals must be the right VP candidate for Mccain. Jindal for VP all the way………the guy is like a whiz kid rolled in authenticity and brilliance. I can’t wait to see him and Mccain reform this governement and googlized the economy.

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