Warner: start withdrawal by Christmas

Well, this has the potential to at least shake up the debate a little.

One of the Senate’s top Republicans has called on President Bush to start bringing U.S. troops home from Iraq by Christmas, telling reporters Thursday that a pullout was needed to spur Iraqi leaders to action.

Sen. John Warner of Virginia, the influential former chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said he has recommended that Bush announce the beginning of a U.S. withdrawal in mid-September, after a report is released from the top U.S. officials in Iraq.

“In my humble judgment, that would get everyone’s attention the attention that is not being paid at this time,” said Warner.

Warner reportedly noted that Bush, Cheney, and others have repeatedly said that the American commitment to Iraq was not open-ended. “The time has come to put some meaningful teeth into those comments — to back them up with some clear, decisive action,” Warner added.

The details of Warner’s proposal are, at this point, unclear. We don’t know, for example, how many troops he’d like to see come home, and/or whether this December draw-down would be the start of a broader, phased withdrawal process.

We also don’t know if Warner is just making a “recommendation” to the president. Will he actually vote to force troops to start coming home by Christmas? To date, Warner has talked a good game more than once, but when it comes time to vote, he’s fallen right into line.

If Warner is serious about withdrawal, he has the stature with the Senate Republican caucus to change a few minds (and save a lot of lives, and improve our national security). If this is just hollow rhetoric, he’ll disappoint the nation. Again.

Update: TP has a clip of Warner’s announcement. He said, “I say to the President, respectfully, pick whatever number you wish. You do not want to lose the momentum. But certainly, in the 160,000 plus — say 5,000 — could begin to redeploy and be home to their families and loved ones no later than Christmas of this year.”

That would be a 3% reduction. Not much of a withdrawal.

While Warner called for a timetable, he argued it was not the role of Congress to mandate it. “Let the President establish the timetable of withdrawal, not the Congress,” he said. Bush need not lay out the “totality of the timetable,” Warner argued. But he must announce at least “a single redeployment of some several thousand” soldiers.

After the first redeployment from Iraq, Warner said a second contingent should be withdrawn at a later date “at the President’s discretion.” Such a move, Warner argued, “would get everyone’s attention.”

“We simply cannot as a nation stand and continue to put our troops at continuous risk of loss of life and limb without beginning to take some decisive action,” he said.

It sounds like pretty weak tea. We’d all like “decisive action,” but unless Warner is planning to challenge Bush directly, and bring some of his Senate friends with him, all of this comes across as “Pretty please, Mr. President, we’d really love it if you adopted a sensible policy. But don’t worry, we won’t force you.”

It’s within Warner’s power to spur real change here. He shouldn’t let the moment pass him by.

Let me guess… he’ll really want some troops brought home in the months immediately preceding the 2008 elections. Just enough to fool people into thinking that Republicans might actually care what Americans want.

What a freakin tool.

  • I almost feel like all the comments like this are token resistance to keep the Dem voters from thinking the Republicans are totally stupid idiots and to keep the Dem activists from feeling superior to the Republicans (because without the comments it would seem like the Republicans were all hack or stupid idiots).

    Probably it can’t totally be the case, because out of all the Republicans, you’d think there would be at least one or two who sincerely feel this way or who have the wind of their constituencies in their sails when they are saying it, or both, but, you never know.

  • Oh go to Hell you crotchety old mealy-mouthed fart. 5000 troops! How will we tell the “withdrawal” from a regular troop rotation? Piss off. You’re a lame duck senator, and your good buddy Reagan is waiting for you to join him in the choir invisible.

  • The momentum will be dwindling of necessity anyway, when we no longer have troops to rotate in as we rotate others out – by all accounts that’s going to have to start in the spring. It’s possible that by spring, Bush will have run through all the generals who are willing to support a failed policy,anyway, so he will be able to cast a redeployment engendered by lack of troops as being what the “commanders on the ground” have advised, and it will somehow be recast by useless media-types as being responsive to the people. Ugh.

    Look for the propaganda blather to increase by this time next year, as Bush and the GOP get more and more desperate to retain some power after the election.

    And more ugh.

  • John Warner today, about the troops. Next month, at some point, it will be Arlen Spector about Gonzalez. All smoke and mirrors, aided and abetted by traditional media, and nothing really changes from one month to the next, except there’s more executive power, and more dead bodies.

    I find it interesting that Voinovich hasn’t said anything about his visit.

  • Why does Warner hate the troops? Why doesn’t he want our mission to succeed? Does he love the terrorists? Oh, wait. He’s a Republican. They can say things like that, because we know they don’t mean them.

    What a pathetic state we’re in where someone meekly suggests such a pathetically small action, and everyone holds their breath to see how the Mad Boy King will react. It’s like a scene from the royal court of some costume drama. “Your Highness, if it pleases you, might you consider a token Christmas gift for the peasants? Might I be so bold as to suggest, if it pleases Your Royal Highness, of course, you might show your generosity and wisdom by letting just a few come home? It would show the vassal states you care for your people, and whip them into line.”

  • Bush could redeploy 50,000 troops and it wouldn’t make that much of a dent what with all the private security contractors in Iraq.

    When we wanted withdrawal and redeployment Bush decided to surge. Now we have been pushed so far right that the middle, where we were, seems like the other end of the field. So withdrawing 15.000 troops seems like a really big deal. It’s not. We should begin to withdraw all our forces by setting up a political dialogue with the surrounding nations and the UN and “regional” Iraqi leaders. Iraqis can handle it from here. They will come to their own agreements out of necessity. They must deal with the question of whether they can play fair when the referees have gone. It is after all, their country. The terrorists will leave when we do. Iraqis have had five years of preparation and survival is a prime motivator. The occupation is over. and will soon be gone.

  • Warner is just previewing the policy Patreus will put forward and is probably part of the Pentagon plan anyway. The “Surge” was just supposed to be temporary. So Put 60,000 troops in and take 20,000 troops out. Wow, it looks like we’re “re-deploying” when in fact, its the planned draw down that the Pentagon had in the works from the beginning. And we still have more troops there than we went in with and bottom line…we’re still there.
    Welcome to Iraq Nam.

  • Do we see a pattern here? “Highly respected” Sen. Warner makes “bold” statements about the need for a change in strategy. No one reports that he also says Congress should do nothing. Polls show public disapproves of the job Congress is doing. Jack Cafferty (and others) reminds everyone that it’s a Democratic Congress. In fact it’s worse than the do-nothing 109th. What’s wrong with Democrats!!! Someone needs to tell Warner to flush the toilet and GO HOME!!!

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