Wednesday’s Mini-Report

Today’s edition of quick hits.

* While almost no crimes are more heinous, this was probably the right call: “The Supreme Court ruled, 5 to 4, on Wednesday that sentencing someone to death for raping a child is unconstitutional, assuming that the victim is not killed. ‘The death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child,’ Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote for the court. He was joined by Justices John Paul Stevens, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer. The court overturned a ruling by the Louisiana Supreme Court, which had held that child rape is unique in the harm it inflicts not just upon the victim but on society and that, short of first-degree murder, no crime is more deserving of the death penalty.”

* Speaking of major Supreme Court rulings: “The Supreme Court on Wednesday dashed the hopes of more than 32,000 fishermen and Alaska Natives who’ve been waiting for nearly 20 years to hear whether Exxon Mobil Corp. must pay billions in punitive damages for its role in the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill. In a victory for corporations seeking to limit big-dollar lawsuits, the court decided 5-3 to reduce the $2.5 billion punitive damages. The award was excessive, the justices wrote, and reduced it to $507.5 million.”

* For years, John McCain has seen terrorism as a boost for Republicans. It’s the opposite of his rhetoric of the past couple of days.

* It’s stunning to consider, but Afghanistan is looking more like Iraq all the time. Insurgent attacks are up nearly 40% in provinces once touted as evidence of success.

* The long national FEC nightmare is over, and the Federal Election Commission will now function again.

* James Hansen has a message for those who want to hear it: “Exactly 20 years after warning America about global warming, a top NASA scientist said the situation has gotten so bad that the world’s only hope is drastic action…. ‘We’re toast if we don’t get on a very different path,’ Hansen, director of the Goddard Institute of Space Sciences who is sometimes called the godfather of global warming science, told The Associated Press. ‘This is the last chance.'” (thanks to R.K.)

* This was a no-brainer, which most Republicans opposed: “The House approved legislation to shield 25 million families from a scheduled tax increase this year, voting to raise taxes on the private equity industry and major oil companies to offset part of the measure’s $60 billion cost.”

* Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-.NY.) will oppose the “compromise” FISA bill. Good for him.

* On a related note, it’s interesting what one senator can do: “Senate progress toward approving a sweeping housing rescue plan was delayed on Wednesday by the objections of a Republican lawmaker who wants to attach an amendment dealing with renewable energy. Nevada Sen. John Ensign — whose state is among the hardest hit by a deep housing market slump — was refusing to allow the housing bill to proceed without a vote on extending tax incentives for renewable energy technologies.”

* Can’t say I blame them: “Skeptical states are shoving aside millions of federal dollars for abstinence education, walking away from the program the Bush administration touts for slowing teen sexual activity. Barely half the states are still in, and two more say they are leaving.”

* Republicans are still lying about China drilling for oil in Cuban waters? Still?

* Maureen Dowd was taken to task over the weekend by the NYT’s public editor, but her first column since was actually quite good.

* Joe Conason explains that Obama has all the right enemies.

* MTV will accept political advertising this year for the first time in the network’s 27-year history. I wonder which presidential candidate is more likely to target the network?

* Oh my: “One question left unanswered by the officials summoned to Capitol Hill yesterday to talk about arms dealer AEY was this: Why did U.S. taxpayers end up spending $300 million for Cold War-era ammunition rounds which it easily could have gotten it for free? Eastern Europe is full of old Soviet-era ammunition. And many countries have been offering to give it away for years. Countries like Bosnia, Bulgaria and Hungary. In fact, the Albanian Defense Minister himself offered to give the U.S. virtually the same ammo that AEY ended up providing under contract.”

* And here I thought Limbaugh couldn’t get any more offensive. I was mistaken.

* Scott McClellan is getting cheeky: “McClellan who is clear that he has no great admiration for Cheney, joked to the audience that his national book tour has given him some ideas for book titles Cheney might consider: ‘The Lies I Told,’ or ‘I Upped Halliburton’s Income – So Up Yours.'”

* And finally, I wonder how this vote will turn out: “Reagan has his highways. Lincoln has his memorial. Washington has the capital (and a state, too). But President Bush may soon be the sole president to have a memorial named after him that you can contribute to from the bathroom. From the Department of Damned-With-Faint-Praise, a group going by the regal-sounding name of the Presidential Memorial Commission of San Francisco is planning to ask voters here to change the name of a prize-winning water treatment plant on the shoreline to the George W. Bush Sewage Plant. The plan, naturally hatched in a bar, would place a vote on the November ballot to provide ‘an appropriate honor for a truly unique president.'”

Anything to add? Consider this an end-of-the-day open thread.

Regarding the last point, I was wondering just yesterday, since the current trend is to name large naval ships after every recent president (usually aircraft carriers, but Carter got a sub since he was a nuclear submariner himself) what we should adorn with George W. Bush’s name. I propose we build a four-ship class of prison/interrogation ships. We can call them USS Thumbscrew, USS Rack, USS Iron Maiden, and USS George W.Bush.

  • A functioning FEC? I was sure we wouldn’t see it until after the election because the Republicans wouldn’t want it. Why did they back down. Good job, Democrats, for hanging in there.

    Let the investigations of the McCain campaign begin!

    I have never understood why it’s the conventional wisdom that a terrorist attack before the elections would help Republicans. Wouldn’t it just prove that the Bush / McCain approach to their “war on terror” had failed?

  • “The Supreme Court on Wednesday dashed the hopes of more than 32,000 fishermen and Alaska Natives who’ve been waiting for nearly 20 years to hear whether Exxon Mobil Corp. must pay billions in punitive damages for its role in the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill. In a victory for corporations…

    Having just finished Larry McMurty’s Oh What A Slaughter
    this quote from the book is provided without comment:

    In virtually every move the Indians lost a little–or a lot–more of the land they held so dear. In 1876-1877 they lost the Powder River country and the Black Hills–the latter their sacred place. As one result of Red Cloud’s war the Black Hills had been granted to the Sioux people in perpetuity in 1886; but very soon afterward General Custer discovered gold there. Perpetuity turned out to be a matter of some four years.

  • The Exxon Valdez case has been dragging through the courts since 1989. During that time one-fifth of the original complainants have died. The remaining ones won’t be made whole by this verdict.
    Justice deferred is justice denied indeed.

  • I have to agree with SCOTUS on the child-rape issue. If we start making “proportional” judgments on any death-penalty topic, then we’ll find ourselves on a slippery slope—and right quick, too. We’ll be back in the position to decree harsher sentences on the basis or race, or religion, or political affiliation—and we will complete our slide into chaos.

    But I’m not seeing any reason to make non-death-penalty variations. For example, if you rape a child, you certainly forfeit your right to be a part of the greater society. You should forfeit your right to communicate with the outside world, to participate in the outside world, and to have any contact/interaction with the outside world.

    In short—for you, time stops, until you die.

    You eat, you sleep, you live in a small cell with no windows, no radio or TV, no books, no newspapers or magazines, and your food/clothing/toiletries all get passed through a slot in a solid steel door.

    You live out your life in non-existence. A “living death,” if you will.

    Every violent criminal—the murderers and rapists and terror-mongers, one and all—receive equal treatment under the law. To each his/her little room; his/her “living death….”

  • Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-.NY.) will oppose the “compromise” FISA bill. Good for him.

    * On a related note, it’s interesting what one senator can do: “Senate progress toward approving a sweeping housing rescue plan was delayed on Wednesday by the objections of a Republican lawmaker

    Good juxtaposition. Why is it that only Republicans can stop bills at will?

  • Haik Bedrosian said:
    The death penalty is wrong and immoral in all forms and in all cases.

    By your morality maybe. You talk like the Fundies.

    I think the State is incompetent to do it right, but there’s a guy in a California prison who raped, tortured (with pliers among other things) and murdered a little girl. He deserves to die..

    Steve said:
    In short—for you, time stops, until you die.

    You eat, you sleep, you live in a small cell with no windows, no radio or TV, no books, no newspapers or magazines, and your food/clothing/toiletries all get passed through a slot in a solid steel door.

    You live out your life in non-existence. A “living death,” if you will.

    Unfortunately it doesn’t work out that way. In extreme cases they even get freed on parole. It’s a life sentence and they do have a life inside. Or maybe you were just saying that’s how it should be?

  • Sorry, but extreme penalties for rape tend to convert it to murder. Do you really think there’s no difference?

  • Some things are fundamental, even if they’re not Christian. It’s not an easy case to argue, apparently, especially if one is in the grip of, albeit justified, anger. There are two principles involved. One is the more logically obvious that killing the perpetrator doesn’t bring the victim back to life — as they say: two wrongs don’t make a right. The second is that, no matter how heinous the act, the culprit has the possibility of redemption. Now that sounds terribly religious, but it is wrong by any standards to remove such a possibility. It’s wrong for the individual and it’s wrong for society. Time to reflect on a crime gives time to discover its error, feel contrition and thus become a better person. That is always good. It is only to our detriment that we deny any sentient being that opportunity.

  • It’s hard to separate the death penalty from the inaccuracy with which it is applied. There are too many mistakes to back it without question. But there are homo sapiens that are no damn good and the world would just be a better place without them and without paying to keep them alive and isolated from a society they are incapable of being a part of.

    There are too many instances like the one that Dale highlights and too many times the perpetrator has already committed a similar crime and somehow wrangled their way back into society. I don’t feel less compassionate for taking out the garbage. Simply occupying human form shouldn’t automatically grant the extraordinary privilege of being alive when that privilege has been removed or horribly compromised for another.

  • doubtful said:
    Well, so much for the filibuster.

    This is one of those scandals that Obama wants to come out early so it’ll be forgotten about before the elections.

    I hope he has the decency to never stand in front of constitutional law class again.

    If a Republican farted it would stop this bill in its tracks.

  • Obama, Clinton, and McCain were three of the five ‘not voting.’ The vote was 80 to 15.

    And the Senators worth their salt are:

    Biden (D-DE)
    Boxer (D-CA)
    Brown (D-OH)
    Cantwell (D-WA)
    Dodd (D-CT)
    Durbin (D-IL)
    Feingold (D-WI)
    Harkin (D-IA)
    Kerry (D-MA)
    Lautenberg (D-NJ)
    Leahy (D-VT)
    Menendez (D-NJ)
    Sanders (I-VT)
    Schumer (D-NY)
    Wyden (D-OR)

    As for the rest of them, well, with representatives like them, who needs a Constitution?

  • ‘The death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child,’ Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote for the court. He was joined by Justices John Paul Stevens, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer. — CB

    Makes one wonder *what on earth* the RATS were thinking… Aren’t all of them Catholics? No minor can have consensual sex, so it’s *always* a rape (even if only statutory). And which church has been going bankrupt paying off victims of child molestation? Theirs. Would they like to see their own priests decimated? Ah… The good, old-fashioned, blood-lust; when it speaks, all common sense flies out the window.

    * The long national FEC nightmare is over, and the Federal Election Commission will now function again. — CB

    From the article:
    “Petersen replaced Hans von Spakovsky, a former Justice Department official whose oversight of voting rights matters had angered Democrats.”

    Gotta love CNN; they manage to make it sound as if Dems were totally unreasonable on the matter. Not a peep about *just why* we dug our heels in on the subject (and BTW, note to Dems: see, you did dig your heels in and you won. And it didn’t hurt all that much)

    Commission of San Francisco is planning to ask voters here to change the name of a prize-winning water treatment plant on the shoreline to the George W. Bush Sewage Plant. The plan, naturally hatched in a bar,[…] — CB

    In vino there may be veritas, but too much vino clouds one’s judgment; the idea wasn’t fully thought through and is totally inappropriate. Bush is a *source* of crap, not a solution to it. Water-treatment plants are *useful*, indeed, essential. And a *prize winning* one??? Since when does Still-President deserve to be associated — even in the smallest degree — with *anything* “prize-winning”?

  • Well, between not voting on this, and through his words today on the topic, Obama just saved me from sending him any cash for the duration of the election. Don’t know if I should send my ‘savings’ to those brave souls who have fought against this additional stain on America, or keep it as part of a down payment on a plot of land in a country that tends to support individual rights, if any such country still exists.

  • It’s really good that 15 Dems voted against this FIXA bill, but what the Republicans have made apparent is that it’s really only important which bills you filibuster or block or put holds on.. Congs can vote for or against bills that they’re actually against or for and it doesn’t tell us much. But if they block a bill then they’re definitely against it.

  • Anyone who has changed their mind and is now against Obama because of the FISA vote should change parties and vote for McCain. His party *loves* single-issue voters, probably because they’re EVER so bright.

  • doubtful, @18,

    I thought Reid was against it too? I guess that was before he was for it… Pox on all the wimps, including the ones who thought not having an opinion (and not voting at all) would, somehow, be more excusable. But Boxer is my goddess and I’m warming up to Cantwell more and more 🙂

  • L’s D, @24

    I’m not voting for McCain; I’ll still be voting for Obama. I’ll even still show up to volunteer at the Dem headquarters (once they’re set up — sometime in August) as I’d planned to do all along. And I haven’t taken off my “Obama ’08” bumpersticker even though I could, since it’s the magnetic, “easy to attach, easy to detach” one.

    But, I used to contribute $25 once a month or every three weeks (all I could afford) and now he can take that straight out of the expected $200mil calculation, ’cause he won’t be getting any more cash from me. I may wear gold-plated jewelry, but it doesn’t mean I’m willing to spend as much on it as I would if it were 18karat gold.

  • 23.
    On June 25th, 2008 at 8:38 pm, Steve said:
    Um, Dale—I “did” use the word “should” in my post….

    Yeah, that was seeping into my mind as i wrote. But if it weren’t for misunderstanding I wouldn’t have as much excuse to spout off. 🙂

    Oh and Limbaugh’sDiabetes, unless I misunderstand you, you’re spouting off simplistic bullshit. When politicians see that betraying their principles works, they make it a way of life.Talk about slippery slopes. Politicians don’t change for the better after they get elected.

  • @libra 25

    Reid still plans on voting against it. But it’s a throwaway vote since he knows it will pass and is not participating in procedure moves to slow it down.

  • I see your point, burro (#15). I don’t feel less compassionate for taking out the garbage. Death, of course, is not the end of the story for anyone. If someone suffers the death penalty it is their karma. Similarly, it’s the victim’s karma to suffer whatever he or she succumbed to. Have you considered that the victims of crimes themselves are reaping the karmic deserts of their own actions, perhaps as murderers or rapists in previous lives? Or is that too difficult a philosophy?

    Killing to protect others has some justification. Killing someone to prevent them committing a similar crime at a later time is a fair argument. Men have walked on the Moon so it should it not be beyond our wits to ensure that “homo sapiens that are no damn good” do not “somehow wrangle[d] their way back into society”, at least not until radically and irrevocably transformed.

  • Swanning, sorry.

    But, back to the FEC… Compare the quote I excerpted from the CNN article (@19), to this one — almost as concise — from the Votemaster, at Electoral Vote:
    The FEC (Federal Election Commission) is now up to full strength. It did not have a quorum for months due to the Senate Democrats’ refusal to accept Hans von Spakovsky as a member due to his repeated attempts at suppressing the minority vote and other controversies. Von Spakovsky finally saw the handwriting on the wall and withdrew.

    A single sentence — as in the CNN’s article — deals with Dem’s opposition to von Spakovski. But it also provides the *reason* for that opposition, making the sentence much more informative (although longer, and thus more Proust-ian or Joyce-ian than Hemingway-ian).

  • And a nod to Tom Harkin, from the purplish Heartland state of Iowa. He doesn’t have to do these things, and it doesn’t help much with his reelection campaign, but he’s always there. Those fifteen men and women are the real Democratic leaders.

  • Scott Bloch, of $400 hand towel fame, is back in the news.

    This time Tom Davis (R-VA) is calling for a congressional investigation of the Office of Special Counsel to investigate…… Comment Board Abuse.

    Yep posting anonymous and misleading comments on the series of tubes while on the gov’t payroll may be propaganda not to mention waste fraud and abuse.

    Commenters are now on notice.

  • I’m still voting for Obama although i live in California and that makes it doubly statiscally insignificant.

    Obama said, Telecom Immunity Issue Doesn’t Override National Security

    And National Security domestic spying doesn’t override the 4th amendment.

  • The Dems really are missing the boat on FISA issues. There is a strong undercurrent in lower to low mid-income America, including some traditionally non-Dem states and regions, that reflects those folks are simply tired of the abuses of the past 7 years when it comes to infringement (perceived or actual) with individual rights and freedoms. They are also tired of big corporate America intrerests being placed above their interests. This undercurrent would work in Obama’s favor if he strongly opposed this bill and stated he was doing so to protect the individual liberties of ordinary Americans and to make sure we are simply not going to take corporate lawbreaking any more. The fear mongering would not be enough to overcome this undercurrent this election.

  • libra,

    As usual, Reid is all talk.

    Anyone who has changed their mind and is now against Obama because of the FISA vote should change parties and vote for McCain. -Limbaugh’sDiabetes

    To begin with, I doubt any of the progressives here have truly decided to support McCain, but a few, like myself have decided to withhold any more financial support. It’s really disappointing to see people label us single issue voters when the issue we’re so concerned about is our right to privacy, the rule of law, and corporatocracy. Those are pretty big issues.

    As of now, my vote is still Obama’s, but like Dale in California, in Illinois, I doubt it will make a difference. Still, I’d like the Democrat to win in a landslide.

    I still haven’t seen any of our Democratic leaders make a case why this FISA bill is required at all? What’s wrong with the old law besides Bush’s unwillingness to follow it and the Democrats unwillingness to hold him accountable for it?

  • I am so disappointed on the filibuster and this whole mess. I called Obama and Durbin today and tomorrow I am calling Durbin and Feingold (I consider myself an honorary cheesehead since I live about 10 miles off the IL/WI border and I do love my neighbors to the north) and asking both of them to put a hold on this bill.

    Call your guys to try to get SOMEONE to put a hold on this.

    Here’s contact info for all states:

    http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

  • Reid has claimed to be against it, but he also was the one who said no to Dodd’s proposed filibuster last year. And I suspect he is the reason no Dem put a hold on the bill this time. When you claim to be “against” something but do everything in your considerable power to help it pass, it makes you a liar. The other thing I suspect is that Reid was fully briefed on all of this, which gives him a personal reason for helping with the cover-up (same with Hoyer and Rockefeller and Pelosi btw; Hoyer and Rockefeller are taking the political hit for this so their superiors can claim to be against it while doing nothing to stop the bill).

  • Obama said, Telecom Immunity Issue Doesn’t Override National Security

    Sounds good to me.

    That is exactly what he needs to say. Loud as can be.
    The only way he can lose this election is if the Republicans can tar and feather him as an Arab appeaser. This isn’t the time to take a principled stand to appease the left. He has to run to the middle-right and bear hug it. Just win baby. Just win.

  • The Bushes had to move all the way to Texas from Greenwich to make their blue blood appear more red is actually a brilliant rhetorical synthesis of metaphors. That really impressed me, just on a writers’ level.

    She’s still not in my good books, though.

  • Re: child rape. I think everyone is missing the point. Regardless of what you think of the DP in general, allowing it for crimes short of murder is a very bad idea, for the simple reason that it encourages more murders.

    Consider the criminal who has just committed rape. He is already eligible for the death penalty, so why not kill the victim and remove the possibility of her testifying against him? It’s not like the state can impose a harsher death sentence than the one he’s already earned.

  • In a victory for corporations seeking to limit big-dollar lawsuits, the [Supreme Court] decided 5-3 to reduce [Exxon’s] $2.5 billion punitive damages. The award was excessive, the justices wrote, and reduced it to $507.5 million.

    Isn’t the Supreme Court supposed to limit itself to significant Constitutional questions? Is the decision to make Exxon pay a tiny (relative to their annual profits) punitive damage amount a major Constitutional issue? Why did the court even take the case?

  • For those of us who need a refresher:

    Fourth Amendment – Search and Seizure

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    The 15 Senators who voted against this FISA bill are my personal heros! To stand up for our Constitution, even when unpopular, is the very definition of a real American!

  • 30.
    On June 25th, 2008 at 9:11 pm, Goldilocks said:

    “I see your point, burro (#15). I don’t feel less compassionate for taking out the garbage. Death, of course, is not the end of the story for anyone. If someone suffers the death penalty it is their karma. Similarly, it’s the victim’s karma to suffer whatever he or she succumbed to. Have you considered that the victims of crimes themselves are reaping the karmic deserts of their own actions, perhaps as murderers or rapists in previous lives? Or is that too difficult a philosophy?”

    I appreciate your forbearance with my rather harsh perspective. But I’m not sure I can go with the 8 year old who had it coming from the day he/she was born because of indiscretions in previous lives. Looking around the world I see too many kids suffering too much to believe that they are all formerly evil characters getting their due. And there are far too many jerks living far too well to believe that we should step back and let them have their day because they’ve somehow earned it with built up brownie points from past good deeds.

    I’m sure I’m quite uninformed on the finer points and pathways of karma but in this world I want kids protected and abusive perverts removed and/or disposed of. Children suffer a rather negative karmic adjustment when they are mistreated and they are more likely to become abusers themselves. If removing a defective unit from the scene places a stick in the spokes of the karmic wheel and messes with the cycle that would be OK.

    But our system of identifying the defective units is fallible. The system has been abused. The innocent have been executed, (more karmic justice?), and the innocent have been unjustly accused, (the karmic layers pile up quickly). Thus we have to err on the side of caution.

  • From the article:
    “Petersen replaced Hans von Spakovsky, a former Justice Department official whose oversight of voting rights matters had angered Democrats.”

    Gotta love CNN; they manage to make it sound as if Dems were totally unreasonable on the matter. Not a peep about *just why* we dug our heels in on the subject (BECAUSE of his “repeated attempts at suppressing the minority vote and other controversies”) .and BTW, note to Dems: see, you did dig your heels in and you won. And it didn’t hurt all that much)
    **********************************************
    Note to CNN: You have just lost another viewer!

    Note to
    Biden (D-DE)
    Boxer (D-CA)
    Brown (D-OH)
    Cantwell (D-WA)
    Dodd (D-CT)
    Durbin (D-IL)
    Feingold (D-WI)
    Harkin (D-IA)
    Kerry (D-MA)
    Lautenberg (D-NJ)
    Leahy (D-VT)
    Menendez (D-NJ)
    Sanders (I-VT)
    Schumer (D-NY)
    Wyden (D-OR):

    you have just gained another contributor. Bravo my fellow patriots and true Americans!

  • Just as some people here have mentioned; I was not planning on sending any money to Obama. Yes he certainly has my vote, no question about it.

    I think that Obama will do just fine without my small contribution. I’m considering where to give my money.

    EX Jeff Merkley (D) who is running against Gordon Smith(r) here in Oregon. It will do more good there.

    I suggest that each person here looks in their own district and see if their candidate can use the money more so than Obama would.

    If nothing else, and you live in a solid blue district, why not donate some of your money to Barr (Libertarian)? He’s bound to at least siphon maybe 1% away from McCain, and no harm done to Democrats. (If we’re lucky he’ll do even better than that) 🙂 If Barr does good enough in Georgia, it may turn for Obama. Wouldn’t that be something.

    We can all dream, but certainly a worthy cause – Limbaugh in reverse.

  • true dem:

    For those of us who need a refresher:
    Fourth Amendment – Search and Seizure
    yadda yadda yadda…

    Thanks for the edukation…

    I am so glad Obama is pissing off the left right now.
    It is exactly what he needs to do. And it is totally cool too that most of the left aren’t hip enuf to see which shell the pea is under. Very kool indeed…

    Looky:

    The more bricks the left throws at Obama, the better his chances in the Fall.
    Like it or not… that’s just fugging life in these United States. So keep hurling those brickbats!
    Even better: Use caps and proclaim in comments everywhere:

    NO MORE $ FOR OBAMA…
    I’M VOTING FOR DARTH NADIR!

    Yeah…
    Sure you are. As if Obama isn’t smart enough to do the math and realize he has got nearly every lefty in the country voting his way. Crickey. It’s a goddamn given. Winning the lefty vote is -1 on Obama’s scale of 20. The battle is for the middle right now. And yes… this is our Armageddon. And yes… like it or not… the middle will decide the outcome.

    So sorry Lefty… you don’t matter anymore.
    Only one thing really matters: Winning The White House.
    Without the House, Yogi Berra is totally right: The future ain’t what it used to be…
    In fact… given global warming… the future AND your Constitution AND your Fourth Amendment aren’t what they used to be…

    Nothing else matters right now. Nothing.
    Only winning.
    Damn the left… Full speed ahead.
    Just win baby. Just fucking win.

  • It is exactly what he needs to do. And it is totally cool too that most of the left aren’t hip enuf to see which shell the pea is under. Very kool indeed…

    Yeah right. It’s a con game alright, sucker.

  • Obama came out against the Supreme Court ruling that kept states from considering capital punishment for the rape of children. I guess he hasn’t heard about the causing more murders argument. Or that capital punishment isn’t a deterrent.

  • I think we should have public hangings for people who sexually molest children let alone someone who forcibly rapes a child. The clean and sanitized death penalty is far too good for anyone who commits a crime like this.

  • When winning becomes the only thing that matters you’ve already lost everything worth fighting for.

  • Even if Obama voted, it would have passed 79-16. -SickofBushMcCainLiebermann

    I like the optimism, but really, it would’ve been 81-15.

  • ‘The death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child,’ Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote for the court.

    I’m not sure I agree, but there may be more at issue here.

    Dale @ 50 got most of my point

    Even if it IS worthy of the death penalty, if you get the same execution whether the kid stays alive or not, might it not tempt the rapist to kill the kid in order to lower chances of conviction? (One less witness?) I know the death penalty is not seen as a deterrent, but could we see a lack of the death penalty as a potential reward for NOT killing the victim? (Granted, child rape often carries an informal death sentence in prisons anyway, from what I understand.)

    I’m not offering an answer, I’m just wondering if LA thought that part through when passing this law.
    Outrage is not reason’s best friend.

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