We’re apparently back to stifling dissent again

Over the past couple of months, most of the rhetoric from top Bush administration officials about the public debate over Iraq has been fairly encouraging. Sure, far-right activists have said dissent is treasonous. And sure, in February, when lawmakers were passing a non-binding resolution criticizing the escalation strategy, Tony Snow went so far as to suggest that the debate itself brought “comfort” to terrorists. And sure, most of the House Republican caucus likes to throw around phrases such as “emboldening the enemy.”

But in practical terms, senior administration officials have made clear how wrong this is. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said in April that demands in Congress for a timeline to withdraw are good for Iraq because they exert pressure on Iraq’s leaders. “The debate in Congress … has been helpful in demonstrating to the Iraqis that American patience is limited,” Gates told reporters. “The strong feelings expressed in the Congress about the timetable probably has had a positive impact … in terms of communicating to the Iraqis that this is not an open-ended commitment.”

Similarly, Condoleezza Rice used congressional debate as part of a diplomatic strategy to urge Iraqi political leaders to accelerate their efforts to produce results. Rice made clear to Iraqi officials that Congress’ frustration reflected the nation’s dissatisfaction, which in turn reminded Iraqis of the urgency of the crisis.

And yet, some shamelessly demagogic talking points apparently die hard.

The Pentagon told Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton that her questions about how the U.S. plans to eventually withdraw from Iraq boosts enemy propaganda.

In a stinging rebuke to a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Undersecretary of Defense Eric Edelman responded to questions Clinton raised in May in which she urged the Pentagon to start planning now for the withdrawal of American forces. […]

“Premature and public discussion of the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq reinforces enemy propaganda that the United States will abandon its allies in Iraq, much as we are perceived to have done in Vietnam, Lebanon and Somalia,” Edelman wrote.

Got that? Even discussing withdrawal helps the enemy.

Of course, Edelman wasn’t just popping off on, say, Hugh Hewitt’s radio show. He was responding to a U.S. senator, in writing, after receiving a request for information. The AP noted that the “strong wording of the response is unusual, particularly for a missive to a member of the Senate committee with oversight of the Defense Department and its budget.”

Indeed, Edelman, a former Cheney aide, was in this case a) wrong; b) rude; and c) breaking protocol.

Clinton and her staff were less than amused.

Clinton spokesman Philippe Reines called Edelman’s answer “at once outrageous and dangerous,” and said the senator would respond to his boss, Defense Secretary Robert Gates. […]

“Redeploying out of Iraq with the same combination of arrogance and incompetence with which the Bush administration deployed our young men and women into Iraq is completely unacceptable, and our troops deserve far better,” said Reines, who said military leaders should offer a withdrawal plan rather than “a political plan to attack those who question them.”

Sometimes I wonder if hacks like Edelman ever get tired of being wrong. It must be quite a burden.

Another neo-con embedded in the Defense Dept.? You don’t say!

  • The Bushbots are scary predictable when it comes to using vitriolic rhetoric. The level rises when the answering to questions would put their position at risk.

  • Yes, and the policy wonks in the WH and the Pentagon need to realize such balderdash only emboldens us sane Americans to vote against all Republicans who find themselves on the ballot in 2008. That such talk of curtailing our inalienable rights of life, liberty and property only works to bring comfort to those who would curtail them themselves should they prevail in their efforts to destroy our way of life. Tell all your Republican friends loud and often: we Americans live without fear, and anyone who wishes to hoist the yoke of fear upon us needs to beware that we will respond in kind, and work to remove the fear – whether it be in a legitimate battlefield, or some part of the WH rhetoric invoked to keep us from openly debating our nation’s salient issues. -Kevo

  • Sorry to sound like a broken record today, but it is nothing short of Right Wing Authoritarianism to suggest that opposing the U.S. Military Occupation of Iraq and Dick’s Private Empire and seeking to put an end to these black marks on American History is anything but Patriotic in the exercise of Democracy. Furthermore, it is anti-patriotic, servile, and morally treasonable to attempt to intimidate free speech of Americans who wish to call their country to higher standard.

  • Seriously though, you’ve got to kind of admire the unmitigated gall and hubris it took him to not just write, but to acyually send such a missive to a leading presidential candidate and one who sits on the Armed Services committee. My guess is Momma Hilary is gonna call him and his boss to a hearing coming soon to a CSPAN near you, and give that Cheneybot a very serious and public dressing down. Not just on protocol and manners and the respect a duly elected senator deserves, but on what is responsible and patriotic about asking the question she asked. Is there a Japanese word, along the lines of hiri-kiri, that means cutting off your own balls in public and eating them?(And if there’s not, there prolly should be) Cause I have a feeling Hilary will surely force the man to do it.

    The irony here, whilst his intention may have been to make Hils look weak kneed and wavering, and girl-like, I think he handed her the perfect vehicle to show the country and the world her Valhalla Amazon Iron Maiden-ness

    I’m not a huge Hilary fan, but methinks this moment may just be her ascension.

  • What fricking allies in Iraq? Let’s see, there’s AQI, they want us to stay and al Maliki. Did I miss anyone else?

  • Does it make sense to interpret this as a sign of Clinton’s strength as a candidate? After all, they are responding to this in a political way, and they don’t do this to every Democrat. Or this simply a standard response to a Democrat who isn’t like Joe Lieberman?

  • “Premature and public discussion of the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq reinforces enemy propaganda that the United States will abandon its allies in Iraq, much as we are perceived to have done in Vietnam, Lebanon and Somalia,” Edelman wrote.

    Hmmm, Vietnam/Nixon, Lebanon/Bush, Somalia/Reagan. Those Republicans are always cutting and running.

  • Kevo***agreed.

    Anytime the WH or the conservatives or the republicans mention emboldening the enemy, or supporting enemy propaganda, or supporting the enemy now, they are not speaking of the terrorists. They are speaking of Americans who disagree with them. We are the enemy for trying to stop them. This is how bad it has become.

    What is truly ironic is that everything the WH has done has strengthened the enemy, emboldened the enemy, and supported their propaganda. Left to the WH even our withdrawal from Iraq will strengthen the enemy. They have absolutely no credibility any longer. After approving and using torture the President has become like those he condemns.

  • “Again?” You must mean, “still,” as I don’t think this administration has made any attempts to encourage dissent, or even freely or willingly tolerate it as a necessary and important part of the democracy.

    This administration does not believe in a government where the people participate – theirs is the “we do what we want, you do what I tell you to, I tell you what I want you to know, you ask no questions, and you leave us alone” form of government. “Dictatorship” might be a better term, or perhaps “Monarchy” with an accompanying powerless legislature and a judiciary fully in the president’s grasp.

    I do not have the words to adequately express how angry this makes me, how frustrated I am about it and how anxious I am to boot these people out in the most painful and humiliating ways possible.

  • Back to stifling dissent, back to seeing Al Qaeda under every bush, back to every argument used many times in the past 5 yrs, just not in the past couple of weeks. I’m all for recycling, but shouldn’t there be a limit?

  • Perhaps it’s time we analyzed neocon Jews in high places in government….and their influence.

  • Withdrawals are so much more fun when done as a mad, unorganized scramble.

    For example, the first British retreat from Afghanistan, which started with 15,000 people, give or take, in Kabul, and ended with just one guy making it back alive.

    Not to mention the sheer romance and glory of the abandonment of the US embassy in Vietnam.

  • I’d say there was one hell of a good reason the U.S. was “perceived to have abandoned its allies” in Lebanon, at least in the most recent conflict. Shameless cheerleading for the country that was mauling the shit out of them might have had something to do with it, and it certainly emboldened Israel. I am surprised to hear him refer to Lebanon as an ally, where the U.S. certainly does not have too many admirers.

    Not only do Bush supporters never tire of being wrong, they neither notice or acknowledge it.

  • ..public discussion of the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq reinforces enemy propaganda that the United States will abandon its allies in Iraq, — Edelman.

    ..allies in Iraq ? Who they?

  • Yes, and the policy wonks in the WH and the Pentagon need to realize such balderdash only emboldens us sane Americans to vote against all Republicans who find themselves on the ballot in 2008. That such talk of curtailing our inalienable rights of life, liberty and property only works to bring comfort to those who would curtail them themselves should they prevail in their efforts to destroy our way of life. Tell all your Republican friends loud and often: we Americans live without fear, and anyone who wishes to hoist the yoke of fear upon us needs to beware that we will respond in kind, and work to remove the fear – whether it be in a legitimate battlefield, or some part of the WH rhetoric invoked to keep us from openly debating our nation’s salient issues. -Kevo

    No way could it be said better. Thanks, Kevo.

  • N Wells brings up a good point. “Withdrawals are so much more fun when done as a mad, unorganized scramble.”

    When has this administration planned anything which wasn’t about elections? Why would they plan a withdrawal strategy when they didn’t plan a post-win-the-war strategy?

    Condi herself said she didn’t do long range planning.

    Not how it’s done in this WH.

  • I’m looking forward to having a Democrat in the Whitehouse and Dems in control of Congress. I think the first order of business should be to use all those nice laws that the Republicans put into place to declare all the current Republican leadership and their financiers as “Enemy Combatants”, ship them off to Gitmo or one of the CIA black prisons and leave them there for oh say 30 years or so. Deny them access to money and counsel. After all what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

    As soon as they are all gone, work on putting our country back on the right track

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