We’ve heard of politicians battling demons, but this is ridiculous

Newsweek has an item in its current issue about John McCain’s search for a running mate, and how the Republican senator will likely put personal interaction at the top of his list of priorities. Washington lobbyist Ken Duberstein told Newsweek, “He is not going to pick a clone or a crazy.”

It depends, I suppose, on the meaning of the word “crazy.”

It’s hardly a secret that Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R), at the ripe young age of 36, is drawing serious interest for the GOP ticket. McCain had Jindal over to one of his houses for a barbecue recently, and prominent conservative voices have been talking up a McCain-Jindal ticket for quite a while now.

There are plenty of drawbacks surrounding Jindal. He’s barely constitutionally eligible (Jindal is literally half McCain’s age); he’s ridiculously conservative; and he’s held statewide office for a grand total of six months.

And then, of course, there’s the exorcism thing, which Eric Kleefeld and Kate Klonick reported on yesterday, noting that it’s part of Jindal’s background that “hasn’t gotten much attention.”

We’ve discovered that in an essay Jindal wrote in 1994 for the New Oxford Review, a serious right-wing Catholic journal, Jindal narrated a bizarre story of a personal encounter with a demon, in which he participated in an exorcism with a group of college friends. And not only did they cast out the supernatural spirit that had possessed his friend, Jindal wrote that he believes that their ritual may well have cured her cancer.

Reading the article leaves no doubt that Jindal — who graduated from Brown University in 1991, was a Rhodes Scholar, and had been accepted at Yale Law School and Harvard Medical School when he wrote the essay — was completely serious about the encounter. He even said the experience “reaffirmed” his faith.

It occurs to me that this might seem like satire. An Oxford-trained governor and VP possibility really wrote about participating in an exorcism?

Yes, he really did.

The whole report from TPM is worth reading, but Jindal — who was a high-priced corporate consultant when he wrote the piece — explained that he had a classmate, “Susan,” who was acting strangely and was surrounded by “sulfuric” smells. After she reportedly suffered a seizure, Jindal and some friends began an exorcism, which he claimed lasted hours, and during which “Susan” tried to leave, causing the exorcism team to hold her down.

From Jindal’s essay:

It appeared as if we were observing a tremendous battle between the Susan we knew and loved and some strange evil force. But the momentum had shifted and we now sensed that victory was at hand.

While Alice and Louise held Susan, her sister continued holding the Bible to her face. Almost taunting the evil spirit that had almost beaten us minutes before, the students dared Susan to read biblical passages. She choked on certain passages and could not finish the sentence “Jesus is Lord.” Over and over, she repeated “Jesus is L..L..LL,” often ending in profanities. In between her futile attempts, Susan pleaded with us to continue trying and often smiled between the grimaces that accompanied her readings of Scripture. Just as suddenly as she went into the trance, Susan suddenly reappeared and claimed “Jesus is Lord.”

With an almost comical smile, Susan then looked up as if awakening from a deep sleep and asked, “Has something happened?” She did not remember any of the past few hours and was startled to find her friends breaking out in cheers and laughter, overwhelmed by sudden joy and relief.

Best of all, according to Jindal, after ridding “Susan” of her demon, her skin cancer disappeared.

Now, I have no idea how the typical American voter would perceive all of this. I find it odd, but who knows, maybe mainstream voters think candidates for national office who’ve experimented with exorcisms aren’t especially controversial.

Either way, if Jindal is chosen for the ticket, expect to hear a few questions about this in the fall.

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  • Aren’t Preists typically required to preform an exorcism?

    Solemn exorcisms, according to the Canon law of the church, can be exercised only by an ordained priest (or higher prelate), with the express permission of the local bishop, and only after a careful medical examination to exclude the possibility of mental illness.

    I guess Jindal is an evangilante: taking Canon law into his own hands.

  • The expression “just because you can doesn’t mean you should” comes to mind. It’s one thing to ridicule the “flat earth” crowd, where belief supplants physical science, but ridiculing belief that focuses on more philisopical concepts like “soul” and “spirit” might smell like intolerance to some. Having said that, I think he’s a loon.

  • I dunno, Mr Benen. He’s a Republican, so I don’t actually “expect questions” about this, anymore than I expect Cindy McCain to be labeled “McCain’s Baby Mama — well, one of ’em.”

  • FOX News will start talking about the possibility of an Obama/Pazuzu ticket any day now.

  • surrounded by “sulfuric” smells…
    tried to leave …
    her sister continued holding the Bible to her face …
    taunting the evil spirit that had almost beaten us…

    Moral lesson: Never leave home without your beno.

  • Add a comment? certainly—thank you.

    Jindal would be perfect as Senator McPin-Riddled-Voodoo-Doll’s VP. Jindal has absolutely no Federal experience, lacks credible state experience, and is only 36—and the GOPer elite believe he’s got enough time in to be but a heartbeat away from the presidency? It kills—no, it demolishes beyond any semblance of recognition—that old Clinton meme of Obama “not being C-in-C material.”

    I like it….

  • You don’t have to make fun of people’s religious beliefs, but it raises questions when the beliefs are held by someone with policy responsibilities:

    Does the governor believe that all skin cancer is a manifestation of demon possession? How about all cancer? All disease? How would this belief affect health care policy?

    The governor admitted to participating in a ritual in which a woman was held against her will for several hours. How did this experience affect the governor’s ideas about, say, habeas corpus?

  • during which “Susan” tried to leave, causing the exorcism team to hold her down

    Sounds like felony kidnapping to me.

  • The governor admitted to participating in a ritual in which a woman was held against her will for several hours. How did this experience affect the governor’s ideas about, say, habeas corpus?

    And how does this experience affect the prosecutor’s ideas about, say, kidnapping charges that normally carry a life sentence?

  • After she reportedly suffered a seizure, Jindal and some friends began an exorcism, which he claimed lasted hours, and during which “Susan” tried to leave, causing the exorcism team to hold her down.

    Kidnapping much?

  • Yup, I agree with Steve. Even without the possible nickname of “Exorcist” Jindal seems an incredibly stupid choice for McSame. If the old soldier picks a VP ten years younger than Obama, how can he possible harp on Obama’s inexperience? The mere fact that he’s considering Jindal ought to make people wonder about his foresight — or lack thereof.

  • Praise the Lord and pass the Port…

    Sounds a bit far fetched, but the sulfur smell could have come from Susan filling her drawers. I know I would if the devil was in my body…

    If Mccain is going to hammer Obama on experience, it will open up a humugus hole in his argument to place such an inexperienced V.P a heart beat away from his own aged body. On the bright side, perhaps Jindal could perform his magic on Darth Cheney. I always felt that half smile of his was gas related…

  • As much shame as I have for my current and past governors (Perry and Bush) I can proudly say that neither have claimed to perform an exorcism. Jindal is the patron saint of the Christian right wing and possibly insane.

  • I don’t see why this is any different from common religious beliefs. I suspect that most
    Americans believe in the devil, and probably angels and demons.

    Polls show 97% of the people believe in God, 78% in the afterlife, nearly half in ghosts and half don’t believe in evolution.

    Okay, given that, most people are suspicious of those who claim an actual experience with the supernatural. Except for the ones described in the Bible, for some reason.

  • So?

    Why would anyone NOT think this selection would be a good fit for the Repo Conservative religious right to gnash their teeth on? Right up their ally and……

    Don’t forget the box office popularity of the original Exorcist. I can remember standing on the long line.

  • Is Talking With Satan Appeasement?

    Wolf Blitzer: Senator McCain, now that you have selected Governor Jindal to be your running mate, what will be your administration’s policy regarding the performing of exorcism’s in the White House?

    Senator McCain: Well, during my 2000 campaign I was firmly opposed to all exorcisms. However, since then, my position has evolved, and I believe that there may be, at an appropriate time and under appropriate circumstances, a place for the limited performance of exorcisms in the White House.

    Blitzer: But Senator, during this campaign, you have indicated that even speaking with one’s adversaries–such as Iran–is appeasement. Are you saying then that it would be appropriate for you or a Vice President Jindal to speak with Satan?

    McCain: Wolf, I’m old. I really don’t know what I’m saying.

  • But look on the bright side, at least Jindal can spell potato.

    Seems like a Jindal VP would backfire all over McCain, since a large portion of his support is from racists. And once the social moderates see that a fundie VP would be one feeble heartbeat from the presidency, they’ll be less than enthused.

  • I guess Jindal is an evangilante…

    ROTFLOL!

    “evangilante” is brilliant. Thanks doubtful.

  • Everyone is missing the point on the rethug vp nominee.

    It will be Jeb Bush!

    He has everything a repug could want…
    – an original member of PNAC (neocon)
    – beloved by the wacko religious right money grubbers (preachers)
    – totally owned by corporate amerika

    As the Bush III candidate, McCrap should add the real thing to his ticket…

    It will guarantee the votes of the 25% who still believe Bush is doing a good job!

    The last 7 presidential elections have had a Bush or Clinton on the ticket, let’s make it 8…

  • Jindal would be a wonderful choice — for us to aim at. In fact, as someone pointed out, the exorcism was against canon law. (Furthermore, “Jesus is Lord” is specifically a Protestant phrase, not a Catholic one.)

    But it is other religious factors that will make him a great target — and which will further blast away the few Fundies that still support McCain. He isn’t just a Catholic, he’s so ‘old-fashioned’ a Catholic that he still has, in his writing, defended the ‘Outside the Church there is no salvation’ position. (His attitude towards Protestantism is — while less colorfully presented — the mirror image of Hagee’s towards Catholicism.) And it would be an interesting study to see how this has affected his governing.

    Btw, Steve, as I e-mailed you, adding Talk2Action to the blogroll would be very valuable. Most of us are secular — and uninterested in the specifics of the Radical Right. But if you had been following Talk2A, the Hagee, Parsley and Jindal stories would have been ‘old news.’ They’ve been watching all three for years, and the various writers there, ranging from Fred Clarkson to Bruce Wilson to ed Brayton to the invaluable ‘dogemperor’ — who is a walkaway from a Fundie group so coercive that she has been, literally, diagnosed with PTSD from her struggles — are solid, fact-oriented people, not alarmists.

  • given that Steve used to work at and remains well connected with Americans United, I suspect he keeps plenty of tabs on the Hagees and Parsleys and these are not “new” to him. sorry, i know Steve can fight his own battles, but your post seems a little condescending towards our host, whom I believe you are underestimating.

  • Bobby Jindal, Inquisitor in Chief. Wow can his portfolio include hunting witches and vampire slayings? And we thought the last 71/2 years were like the Spanish Inquisition.

  • [Jindal] explained that he had a classmate, “Susan,” who was acting strangely and was surrounded by “sulfuric” smells. — CB

    24hrs after Bush had left the podium at UN, Chavez could still smell sulfur. Where was Jindal and his magic then?

  • I for one refuse to believe any of this unless BJ can spontaneously bleed from 5 wounds, Live on American Idol.

  • Au contraire: I had forgotten that, and thank you. But I didn’t intend to be, and hoped I wasn’t being, condescending. AU is a wonderful organization — and my Perkins piece was based on Adele Stan’s reporting for AU. At the same time, Talk2Action is also worth being better known. I won’t argue which is ‘better’ they have slightly different perspectives, but both are worth keeping up with.

  • Please hear me out before you call me a troll. I’m a HUGE, HUGE, fan of the separation of church and state. Having said that, i don’t think that one’s religious beliefs should disqualify them from office. I will admit that i do not know much about this jindal guy. For all i know he is another crazy theo-con. But I think it is a mistake if we start making fun of ones personal religious beliefs if those beliefs do not effect policy decisions. All i’m trying to say is that if we expect the religious to keep their beliefs out of state decisions, then those of us who are concerned about state decisions should keep our distance from ones personal religious beliefs. but thats just my random thoughts and feel free to call me an idiot.
    cheers

  • I do not find this article puzzling or strange at all. The Bible states that “in my name they shall cast out demons.” Casting out demons is one of the signs of a Christian.

    (Mark 16:17 KJV) And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

    (Mark 16:18 KJV) They shall take up serpents [meaning to safely remove without harm]; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

    These were the words of Jesus. If Christians did not have power over Satan and his demonic forces, we’d be in a sad shape.

    So do not try to belittle Governor Jindal with your lack of knowledge. If he is casting out demons, good for him!! How else can we break every yoke and set the captive free.

    (Luke 10:19 KJV) Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

    (Luke 10:20 KJV) Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

    And it is not strange that the girl was healed of her cancer since demons are what cause diseases. Jesus cast out spirits to heal diseases:

    (Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

    I say Bobby Jindal is a man after my own heart and I’m sure God is looking down on him and saying, “Well done, thou good and faithful servant.”

    I would suggest that you start doing some Biblical study before you so easily ridicule a person for doing good.

  • imagine a president who believes that cancer is caused by demons. Should we replace oncology wards with cathedrals? Why does one person have demons and another not?

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