‘What are we doing here? Why are we still here?’

The NYT’s Michael Kamber spent a week with Delta Company, an infantry company in Baghdad, and talking to more than a dozen soldiers in the unit. They’re disillusioned, frustrated, skeptical that their mission is worthwhile, and slowly beginning to realize that the Iraqis they’re training are the same Iraqis attacking them.

Staff Sgt. David Safstrom does not regret his previous tours in Iraq, not even a difficult second stint when two comrades were killed while trying to capture insurgents.

“In Mosul, in 2003, it felt like we were making the city a better place,” he said. “There was no sectarian violence, Saddam was gone, we were tracking down the bad guys. It felt awesome.”

But now on his third deployment in Iraq, he is no longer a believer in the mission. The pivotal moment came, he says, this February when soldiers killed a man setting a roadside bomb. When they searched the bomber’s body, they found identification showing him to be a sergeant in the Iraqi Army.

“I thought: ‘What are we doing here? Why are we still here?’ ” said Sergeant Safstrom, a member of Delta Company of the First Battalion, 325th Airborne Infantry, 82nd Airborne Division. “We’re helping guys that are trying to kill us. We help them in the day. They turn around at night and try to kill us.”

I know it’s a holiday, and a lot of folks probably aren’t going to be keeping up on the news today, but I hope people will read this article. Every word.

There was a firefight on April 29, for example, near Delta Company’s base. The united faced about 60 insurgents during a gun battle that raged for two and a half hours. “When the battle was over, Delta Company learned that among the enemy dead were at least two Iraqi Army soldiers that American forces had helped train and arm.”

Capt. Douglas Rogers said it was “a watershed moment” for the unit. They realized they were fighting the same Iraqi security forces that are supposed to be allied with U.S. troops. “Before that fight, there were a few true believers.” Captain Rogers said. “After the 29th, I don’t think you’ll find a true believer in this unit.”

“In 2003, 2004, 100 percent of the soldiers wanted to be here, to fight this war,” said Sgt. First Class David Moore, a self-described “conservative Texas Republican” and platoon sergeant who strongly advocates an American withdrawal. “Now, 95 percent of my platoon agrees with me.” […]

To Sergeant O’Flarity, the Iraqi security forces are militias beholden to local leaders, not the Iraqi government. “Half of the Iraqi security forces are insurgents,” he said.

As for his views on the war, Sergeant O’Flarity said, “I don’t believe we should be here in the middle of a civil war.”

“We’ve all lost friends over here,” he said. “Most of us don’t know what we’re fighting for anymore. We’re serving our country and friends, but the only reason we go out every day is for each other.”

“I don’t want any more of my guys to get hurt or die,” he continued. “If it was something I felt righteous about, maybe. But for this country and this conflict, no, it’s not worth it.”

To hear John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, the Bush White House, and other war supporters tell it, these courageous soldiers — heroes, all — want to “wave a white flag” to al Qaeda. They don’t want to fight a war on terror. They want to cut and run.

That’s absurd to the point of outrage. I suspect conservative war supporters would dismiss an article like this, suggesting that this is just one unit, and their comments reflect the opinions of just a dozen or so soldiers. Maybe, Republicans would argue, their perspective is unique and part of a small minority.

It’s possible, but I don’t think so. Articles like these have become too common. Troops are on the front lines, and they’re training our enemies and making al Qaeda’s job easier. They can’t tell friend from foe, they see no end in sight, and they no longer believe their mission is worthwhile.

To support these troops is to support bringing them home.

We must end the occupation of Iraq.

  • Support the troops. END the occupation. And pray that our brave men and women who fight for us are protected from harm.

  • Maybe, Republicans would argue, their perspective is unique and part of a small minority.

    Hey, it’s an army of one now. So long as one guy agrees with the WH “policy,”* the entire army agrees with the policy. (See Dr. Laura’s darling boy.)

    Actually, I can’t think of a time when a War Pigeon has made a public response to this type of article that wasn’t “I have great respect for the men and women of blah baa, bleat moo.”

    Has anyone asked and tried to get a non-bullshit answer? If not, someone poke the press with a hot iron or something.

    tAiO

    * If you can use such a word to describe a non-stop clusterfuck caused by one idiot’s refusal to admit he’s a lying bastard and just plain wrong.

  • “In the World War, we used propaganda to make the boys accept conscription. They were made to feel ashamed if they didn’t join the army. So vicious was this war propaganda that even God was brought into it. With few exceptions our clergymen joined in the clamor to kill, kill, kill. To kill the Germans. God is on our side…it is His will that the Germans be killed. And in Germany, the good pastors called upon the Germans to kill the allies…to please the same God. That was a part of the general propaganda, built up to make people war conscious and murder conscious. Beautiful ideals were painted for our boys who were sent out to die. This was the “war to end all wars.” This was the “war to make the world safe for democracy.” No one mentioned to them, as they marched away, that their going and their dying would mean huge war profits. No one told these American soldiers that they might be shot down by bullets made by their own brothers here. No one told them that the ships on which they were going to cross might be torpedoed by submarines built with United States patents. They were just told it was to be a “glorious adventure.”” -Brigadier General Smedley D. Butler, War Is A Racket

  • Rummy (and Wolfie) should be rousted out of their comfortable retirements and be deployed with troops outside the green zone. These bastards have never experienced first hand the consequences of their arrogance.

  • Yes evilpoet, The “H, W’ in George H.W. Bush stands for Herbert Walker who was his daddy’s business partner who help fund the Nazi party and were war profiteers till 1942 when the secret services act was passed preventing them from providing funds to the enemy. The Bush family has a long history of war profiteering that continues today.

    Millions and billions at stake, hell they’d kill you, me, Kennedys, congress, anybody to keep the money flowing. We are in deep shit and every war ending makes them run to start another.

    Wish we could accomplish the same thing by just raising our taxes to give to them as extortion so soldiers didn’t have to die. Amounts to the same thing. The army should be used to seize the funds and properties of Exxon/Mobile, Blackwater, KBR and other war profiteers. Hell, we could pay off our national debt, have free education and healthcare and give all our congress members a huge raise. Just saying…

  • This is the kind of cynical manipulation, just pieces on a chessboard, that happens when the highest echelons of decision-making in military affairs are themselves not military, and have no previous military experience. I don’t particularly like to pick on Gates, since he appears less a nonstop serial liar than his bosses, but he does head the Defense Department. He’s spent more or less his whole life in the CIA – not a day of military experience that I could find. Don’t even get me started on Cheney, or Glamour-Boy-Pilot bubblehead George Bush. Anyway, the point is that all these people see is a goal, obstacles to achieving that goal, and assets that will help them overcome the obstacles. All very boardroom, cool and bloodless. As long as obstacles do not overpower or equal assets, why, you keep driving for the goal. Losses are inevitable – hey, you can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs, right? – but as long as the assets remaining are greater than the obstacles, it doesn’t matter what people think.

  • Troops are on the front lines, and they’re training our enemies and making al Qaeda’s job easier. — CB

    In fact, we’re doing such a good job of training our enemies, that they now have enough “to spare” and send outside Iraq, according to NYT. As ThinkProgress says; we’re fighting them there, so we can fight them everywhere.

    But, of course, what the troops say and think is irrelvant; theirs is not to think, theirs is to kill and to die at the whim of the fat cats in DC.

  • I remember a story when I was growing up in the late sixties, early seventies, about a group of soldiers who refused to follow the orders of a platoon leader to walk down a certain trail. They refused because they were experienced in the ‘nam and knew it would be booby trapped. I understood then, that I, would never question the judgement of soldiers who had to comprehend their environment more than me, because, their lives were on the line. I also remember a joke from the Kubrick film, Full Metal Jacket. It was, essentially, “Would you like to buy an ARVN rifle (M-16), it’s never been fired and onlly dropped once? Seems like the trained Iraq soldiers aren’t dropping the rifles.

  • We have a dishonest, diabolical president who thinks nothing of our fine young men and women fighting and dying for Cheney’s and Haliburton’s agenda. Since the Dem’s have no balls to do anything about it now, nothing will change until after the next elections – at the least.

  • Larry, @10:

    What makes you think things will change after the next elections? If Dems don’t grow a pair SOON, will enough people vote for them? We need to build onto the slim wins of ’06, but, if they continue to be as meek as lambs (all except Waxman ) to shrub’s sheepdog, why should anyone bother?

  • After the 29th, how many are still planning to vote Republican?

    Can you be “strong on defense” but still this stupid about protecting national interests?

    Is “strong and stupid” so very preferable to gunshy, but smart if those are truly the only two choices available?

  • tangentially related, I’m working on a film titled what are we doing here about aid relief in Africa

    check it out at www whatarewedoinghere net

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