What Phase II and the Starr standard have in common

Yesterday’s report from the Senate Intelligence Committee on the White House’s deliberate deceptions before the U.S. invasion of Iraq was not exactly blockbuster news. That doesn’t come as a surprise — Bush and his team lied about Iraq? Deliberately shoveling talking points that they knew to be false at the time? You don’t say.

But let’s not brush past this too quickly. Dan Froomkin had a good summary of what we learned from the new report.

Yesterday’s long-awaited Senate Intelligence Committee report further solidifies the argument that the Bush administration’s most blatant appeals to fear in its campaign to sell the Iraq war were flatly unsupported.

Some of what President Bush and others said about Iraq was corroborated by what later turned out to be inaccurate intelligence. But their most compelling and gut-wrenching allegations — for instance, that Saddam Hussein was ready to supply his friends in al-Qaeda with nuclear weapons — were simply made up.

In an accident of timing, the report also validates former press secretary Scott McClellan’s conclusion in his new book that the White House pursued a “political propaganda campaign” to market the war.

The White House response? That officials in Congress and elsewhere were saying the same things about Iraq. Or in other words, that other people bought the administration line. It takes a lot of chutzpah to defend yourself against charges that you’ve engaged in a propaganda campaign by noting that it worked.

Quite right. For all the talk, which goes back years, that the White House relied on intelligence that turned out to be wrong, the report released yesterday highlights a different problem altogether: White House officials, including the president, said things they knew to be false.

As Intelligence Committee Chairman John Rockefeller (D-W. Va.) said, “There is no question we all relied on flawed intelligence. But, there is a fundamental difference between relying on incorrect intelligence and deliberately painting a picture to the American people that you know is not fully accurate.”

This may seem like a bit of a stretch, but all of this reminds me a bit of Ken Starr.

A decade ago, Starr prepared a lurid report for Congress detailing his case against Bill Clinton. At first blush, this wouldn’t necessarily have any relevance to the war in Iraq, but something occurred to me today.

After he laid out the “narrative” of Clinton’s alleged transgressions, Starr wrote a section he called “Grounds.” In it, Starr details what he described as “acts that may constitute grounds for an impeachment.” There were 11 in all, most of which dealt with Clinton’s grand jury testimony and remarks during a deposition in Paula Jones’ civil suit. But the last of the grounds for impeachment went a little further.

* Beginning on January 21, 1998, the President misled the American people and Congress regarding the truth of his relationship with Ms. Lewinsky. […]

The President himself spoke publicly about the matter several times in the initial days after the story broke. On January 26, the President was definitive: “I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I’m going to say this again: I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time. Never. These allegations are false.”

The President’s emphatic denial to the American people was false. And his statement was not an impromptu comment in the heat of a press conference. To the contrary, it was an intentional and calculated falsehood to deceive the Congress and the American people.

Don’t forget, when Clinton made the remarks about “sexual relations with that woman,” he wasn’t under oath; he was answering a reporter’s question. For Starr, it didn’t matter. Here was a constitutional officer lying to the country, on national television, about a subject of national significance.

Starr insisted that this was, quite literally, an impeachable offense.

Anyone else see any similarities here? As I recall, back in 1998, there weren’t any Republicans criticizing the Starr standard, insisting that regular ol’ lies from a president, during a press conference, not made under oath, couldn’t possibly rise to the level of impeachable offenses.

Just sayin’.

and while Kenny boy (what is it with Kenny boys, anyway?) claimed, quite incorrectly, that Bill’s dalliances were of “national significance,” I would say that doing the same think to gin up a war rather than to cover up a fling is very much of national significance. (actually, international significance. think war crimes.)

indeed, the fact that l’affaire Lewinsky dominated two years of oxygen in the politico-media system in retrospect only shows how boringly freakin’ peaceful and prosperous the Clinton years really were.

ITMFA.

  • The report also highlighted something that should receive more attention: Iranian intelligence agents may have duped Bush into removing Iran’s biggest enemy.

    From McClatchy:

    WASHINGTON — Defense Department counterintelligence investigators suspected that Iranian exiles who provided dubious intelligence on Iraq and Iran to a small group of Pentagon officials might have “been used as agents of a foreign intelligence service … to reach into and influence the highest levels of the U.S. government,” a Senate Intelligence Committee report said Thursday.

    A top aide to then-secretary of defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, however, shut down the 2003 investigation into the Pentagon officials’ activities after only a month, and the Defense Department’s top brass never followed up on the investigators’ recommendation for a more thorough investigation, the Senate report said.

    The revelation raises questions about whether Iran may have used a small cabal of officials in the Pentagon and in Vice President Dick Cheney’s office to feed bogus intelligence on Iraq and Iran to senior policymakers in the Bush administration who were eager to oust the Iraqi dictator.

  • The White House response? That officials in Congress and elsewhere were saying the same things about Iraq.

    So the next question that still hasn’t been answered after five years – why did we invade Iraq?

  • Why did Reid and Pelosi take Impeachment off the table again?

    It’s not like they’ve done much with control of congress anyway.

  • Right thorin-1, you don’t impeach because you think you can win. You impeach because it is the right thing to do.

  • Reminds me yet again of my favorite bumper sticker of the last several years: Will Someone Please Give Bush A Blow Job So We Can Impeach Him?

  • one hates to be the person who keeps bringing up history, but the rodino judiciary committee considered an article of impeachment against nixon for illegally invading cambodia.

    and decided against it, on the grounds that once you start impeaching over foreign policy, it will never stop.

    and if they couldn’t sell an impeachment of nixon in 1974 on the illegal invasion of cambodia, it’s unlikely in the extreme that such an article could get through today’s congress.

    i do like the way, though, that people feel like pelosi and reid have the power to make the sign rise: when your majority in the senate is joe lieberman and your majority in the house is blue dog democrats, tell me again what your power is?

  • We have everything necessary to impeach the bastards, except a real opposition party with real leadership. All we’ve got is Pelosi and Reid. Those two worthless wimps are the GOP’s MVPs.

    And I’m sure that any day now the media will chuck overboard a bunch of pundits who still haven’t made any serious noise about the worst crime committed in decades, and then they’ll hire a bunch of DFHs who not only saw it coming but told us all how it was prepetrated.

    Any day now.

    Any. Day. Now.

  • The Starr Standard was never realistic. Impeaching politicians for lying to the public would pretty much insure that we would have no politicians in elected office. I don’t think that that is a road we want to go down.

  • I have long maintained that one of the smartest things the Republicans ever did was impeach Bill Clinton. In a single stroke they rendered meaningless the single greatest power Congress has over an out of control Presidency. For decades to come the general public will view impeachment as nothing more than a cheap political tool, rather than as the critical check on Presidential power.

    As for grounds for impeachment:

    Illegal wire-tapping/spying on Americans and then covering it up. That’s pretty much what Nixon did, illegally spy on Americans and then covered it up. Why don’t people get that?

    Most polls show that around 35-40% of the public favor impeachment of Bush (more than half want Cheney gone) and that is without ANY national level Democrat advocating for it. That’s more than supported the Clinton impeachment with the full force the right-wing noise machine shouting for it everyday.

  • White House officials, including the president, said things they knew to be false. — CB

    Compare that to the title of the NYT article (front page): “Bush Overstated Evidence on Iraq, Senators Report”.

    Overstated. Not lied. He took the truth, buffed it a bit here, tweaked it a little there, stretched it a tad to fill in the corners… But, basically, it was all true. Makes me wonder whether it’s my English that’s faulty or whether it’s the journalists who are not required to take any classes in it.

    […] Kenny boy […] claimed, quite incorrectly, that Bill’s dalliances were of “national significance,” […] — Starr gazer, @1.

    Don’t you believe that. I’ll never forget the summer of ’98, which I spent in Poland. It was the worst trip home I ever took. All Clinton, all the time, on all the TV stations. And the snickers. And the questions (don’t you have string in US? Couldn’t he have tied a knot on his willie? How could you have elected someone, for President of the US, when he can’t even control his own wand?).

    Only November ’04 matched that, in the embarrassment of being an American (you’ve re-elected this ape???) . But I was her then, and e-mails don’t hurt as bad…

  • I used the Starr report to housebreak my new puppy and used the Impeachment hearings to sleep. They were so dull that they put me to sleep immediately.
    And of course many people were saying the same things about Iraq- WH gave this information to Congress and reporters.

  • We would not be starting at Go in regard to impeachment.

    There are Articles of Impeachment against Cheney already drawn-up (by Kucinich with 20-some co-sponsors) and awaiting hearings in the House Judiciary Committee. All Conyers, the Chairman, has to do is give the go-ahead.

    And there is a member of that Committee, Robert Wexler, along with about 4 others on the Committee and about 20 House members in addition, who together are telling Conyers to stop holding up hearings. Wexler, to show that there are a lot of Americans who want hearings, maintains a web page where people who feel the same way can add their names. The more names, the stonger his case.

    WexlerWantsHearings.com

    Yes he is a politician; he accepts contributions; but you don’t have to give a cent. And please pass the link around the web.

  • On Aor America Radio this mjorning Senator Bernie Sanders was answering a question from a caller who stated that “now that we know the President and his administration “knowingly” lied us into this war/occupation we can’t be expected just to let this go. It had disastrous results and something needs to be done about it.” Bernie’s answer stated that we may not like it but nothing can be done because we can’t get a 60 vote majority in the senate on anything because everything is being blocked by the republicans so nothing can be done about this until we get a dem president.

    What the hell is he talking about?? If the president commits crime why does it take a 60 vote majority to arrest him, or start impeachment proceedings in the House? What kind of bubble do our legislators live in. The man took us to war under knowingly false pretenses…facts that he knew he was making up not flawed intelligence. Is congress the only people that can have him arrested or charged? Does this mean he can do anything he likes and unless there is a 60 vote majority in the senate we can do nothing to him?? What is wrong with this picture?????

  • Hey, come on, so Bush was a little bit gushing in his presentation and made up insinuations about Hussein and al Qaida, he started a war that has killed 4300 plus Americans and wounded thousands more, while driving oil prices to an insane frenzy that he continues to feed…

    It’s not like he was having sex or something.

  • 8. On June 6th, 2008 at 5:27 pm, howard said:
    one hates to be the person who keeps bringing up history, but the rodino judiciary committee considered an article of impeachment against nixon for illegally invading cambodia.

    and decided against it, on the grounds that once you start impeaching over foreign policy, it will never stop.

    and if they couldn’t sell an impeachment of nixon in 1974 on the illegal invasion of cambodia, it’s unlikely in the extreme that such an article could get through today’s congress.

    i do like the way, though, that people feel like pelosi and reid have the power to make the sun rise: when your majority in the senate is joe lieberman and your majority in the house is blue dog democrats, tell me again what your power is?

    Pelosi can’t call for impeachment hearings. But she can schedule them, right? As you note, impeachment would never be approved in the House, and there’s no way Bush would be indicted in the Senate. Besides, who would replace Bush…Cheney?

    Nevertheless, I’d still love to see the House impeach Cheney.

    Thank you Can Do It for the link to Wexler’s website. Signed the petition.

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  • Just suggesting one correction. U said…

    “For Starr, it didn’t matter. Here was a constitutional officer lying to the country, on national television, about a subject of national significance.”

    I would suggest that the matter at hand was a matter of ..”national insignificance.” raised to a deluded roar.

  • This is one of the weird things about Hillary’s defense of voting for war. She could have just said that she mistakenly trusted the president. Even if she had read the intelligence reports, these were summaries at best and represented a tinyfraction of what any president would receive, even on a daily basis. No one is in a better position to determine the facts than POTUS, and any attempt by him or his administration to pawn off the rubber-stamp he got from Congress is the ultimate pass the buck coverup.

    The real damage started after we found out that they lied as they tried to cover it up with the Plame leak/Wilson smear. And that damage is that we learned that we can’t trust Bush on even the most serious of issues.

  • If impeaching Clinton was a mistake,

    then not impeaching Bush is a MUCH BIGGER mistake.

    Congress cannot let our country lose it’s way. Presidents are not kings, and Congress is not the House of Lords. If America is no longer for we, the people, then we are no longer America.

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